Fred Furker said:

Nerds couldn’t have created democracy. Certainly men did not create it. It was probably orginally thought up by women, influencing men to do away with oligarchies in an ancient society where trade and tax were important to building a navy/army. Why, because nerds prefer to solve political problems in much more direct systems, if they are true MEN, real nerds that is!

[In any case, modern representative democracy is a foolish system of govt likely to help speed up the extinction of mankind, as it panders to consumers and thus big business and energy moghuls.]

Men are not better at being committed to democracy or any other system of govt. It is just that historically, since men stopped being hunters, and women gave up their natural state: the political control of the home, and the village, men took over.

But men are poor politicians, and they resort to violence too often. American democracy was founded by English/Scottish philosophers who had studied the ancients and British law, and wanted to continue to have a say in who taxed them, and why.

A nerd could not have been responsible for a system thought up by women and put into place by these philosophers. They were just extending the British democracy to America, and eliminating the King from the scene. Most nerds I know much prefer violent means to solving political problems than thoughtful ones, such as giving people rights. Eventually a few of them, like George Washington did so. He won most of the war with French help and by running away from the superior British enemy.

In any case, democracy does not give you any more rights than any other form of govt. Some democracies can be fearful places to live in, if you cross them! America is a great example of just such a system.

Now, real nerds, and real men, who wanted to avoid violent struggles, would create a much better system. I will call this MERITOCRACY. Why, every nerd I’ve ever met wanted to rule the world, and would much prefer to do so based on how many exams - academic and physical - they had passed. If the world was ruled by MERIT, then we can surely say that MEN WERE IN CONTROL, since no woman would have the intellectual and physical ability to pass the set of examinations that a true MERITOCRACY would require its leaders to pass. AND OLD People would also be KICKED out, as they the physical exams - the assault course - would be too much for them.

TRUE NERDS, with good physical strength, would become RULERS. And that is surely a good thing. Fucking whores and women need not apply.

‘Democracy’ is just a fanfare for the same old elite dominion. Voting is a con-trick cooked up to fool the masses into thinking they run things - when in fact Bohemian Grove and other power-elites really rule.

Nerds couldn’t have created democracy. Certainly men did not create it. It was probably orginally thought up by women, influencing men to do away with oligarchies in an ancient society where trade and tax were important to building a navy/army. Why, because nerds prefer to solve political problems in much more direct systems, if they are true MEN, real nerds that is!

[In any case, modern representative democracy is a foolish system of govt likely to help speed up the extinction of mankind, as it panders to consumers and thus big business and energy moghuls.]

Men are not better at being committed to democracy or any other system of govt. It is just that historically, since men stopped being hunters, and women gave up their natural state: the political control of the home, and the village, men took over.

But men are poor politicians, and they resort to violence too often. American democracy was founded by English/Scottish philosophers who had studied the ancients and British law, and wanted to continue to have a say in who taxed them, and why.

A nerd could not have been responsible for a system thought up by women and put into place by these philosophers. They were just extending the British democracy to America, and eliminating the King from the scene. Most nerds I know much prefer violent means to solving political problems than thoughtful ones, such as giving people rights. Eventually a few of them, like George Washington did so. He won most of the war with French help and by running away from the superior British enemy.

In any case, democracy does not give you any more rights than any other form of govt. Some democracies can be fearful places to live in, if you cross them! America is a great example of just such a system.

Now, real nerds, and real men, who wanted to avoid violent struggles, would create a much better system. I will call this MERITOCRACY. Why, every nerd I’ve ever met wanted to rule the world, and would much prefer to do so based on how many exams - academic and physical - they had passed. If the world was ruled by MERIT, then we can surely say that MEN WERE IN CONTROL, since no woman would have the intellectual and physical ability to pass the set of examinations that a true MERITOCRACY would require its leaders to pass. AND OLD People would also be KICKED out, as they the physical exams - the assault course - would be too much for them.

TRUE NERDS, with good physical strength, would become RULERS. And that is surely a good thing. Fucking whores and women need not apply.

All women are whores? Nonsense. Not ALL women. Some pretty and beautiful women are whores. Some ugly women are whores. Not all women are whores. In any case, to be a whore you need a whoremonger. So are all men whoremongers. I’m not. I’ve never fucked a girl for money. So the whole website is nonsense.

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In my view there is no reason for either MGM, or FGM. You simply have to learn how to clean yourself differently either way.

However the final say is that Men are the ones that PRIMARILY suffer through this process in the western world. However when women have to deal with it in a different country, for some reason every woman is up in arms about it. They fail to mention Men whatsoever because to them, we don’t MATTER. They could care less about it.

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wow - female said:

@Billy- I really do understand the plight of todays men, but you really come off as shattered. I say that without the implication of pity or insult, just as an observation. What age are you? If its none of my business, fine, but hopefully you are not a very young man because if you are, I feel you will face an entire life being irritated and, because of that, generally unhappy.

Generally unhappy, no not really. Irratated at the childish girls who come here and spout off. Frustrated with women and the nonsensical BS we put up with daily. Shattered by what modern women have become mostly due to the lies of feminism.

Personally, I’ve always had a problem with FGM not only because how involved it is, but because it’s purpose is generally to detract all sexual pleasure from the woman. *sigh* Now that’s the kind of sexism that gives sexism a bad name. Shit, I felt bad for my cat when I had her spayed. Poor thing doesn’t know what she’s missin’.

alen said:

See, that’s the problem. Women talk about female circumcision and it really means 4 different things; but they always talk about the numbers as though it was always the worst case scenarios.

Yet, when they look at MGM they only look at the simplest scenario and assume that it’s like that everywhere.

The obvious fact is that MGM is much more prevalent than FGM. There are also very serious rites of passage that involve MGM in some cultures that are just as reprehensible as the most quoted FGM.

Here’s a nice little list to help put it into perspective…

http://www.circumstitions.com/FGMvsMGM.html

http://www.angelfire.com/ca5/intact/fgm.html

Bottom line is anyone that is against FGM should also be against MGM. But what we find over and over again is that women are the ones that show a preference for circumcision for their sons, while denouncing FGM. This is ESPECIALLY regarding Africa currently; where male circumcision is seen in the western world as some kind of wonderful solution for Aids, even though resent studies have found that studies showing that circumcision had a positive effect on preventing disease to be flawed… but I digress….

I’m guessing because it’s not looked at the same because there’s more involved with a girls one. You know some people use rocks for it? rocks. And it’s not done cause they think it will help them, (like they do boys) its done so that she doesn’t have errr…any fun. Sometimes they even….sow her up, so she can’t you know. I don’t like talking about this, it makes me sad. But just so you know I think both are wrong.

I’m not gonna lie…that really scares me. What even scares me more is that parental instinct, on both sides, dont kick in and say “I don’t want to mutilate my baby”. It makes me feel queezy.

It is morbid, really. Up until recently only half of circumcisions even bothered to use anesthetic on baby boys. And the effects are more long lasting than many believe. Studies (look up Taddio 1999 or see this for a summary) have shown that boys that have had circumcisions are much more likely to be afraid of needles (ie: they’ve been traumatized and remember the experience on a certain level). Of course, these same boys grow up to be fodder for not being manly should their primal fear continue into adulthood…

Anyway, I bring this up merely to point out what an ASS Jenn was.

It is morbid, really. Up until recently only half of circumcisions even bothered to use anesthetic on baby boys. And the effects are more long lasting than many believe. Studies (look up Taddio 1999or see this for a summary) have shown that boys that have had circumcisions are much more likely to be afraid of needles (ie: they’ve been traumatized and remember the experience on a certain level). Of course, these same boys grow up to be fodder for not being manly should their primal fear continue into adulthood…

Anyway, I bring this up merely to point out what an ASS Jenn was.

wow - female said:

@alen - OMG! Seriously I had NO idea that kind of thing took place, thanks (i think) for showing the extent of MGM, wow.
And I agree that western woman do ask for their babies to be circumsized, I did, with all three of my boys. But not becasue Im pro-circumcision, but because it is SO acceptable and almost forcibly recommended. I actually hated it for my kids all three times. I know that it was painful and it made me feel terrible everytime the cryed while urinating and I knew it was something “I” did to them. I also feel though, that American men, for the most part, accept circumcision for their children. My husband was for it as well, but I wonder if its because he wanted his boys’ penis to look like his, or maybe because he has also succumbed to the societal norm. Hmmm….

What a scary thought. I didn’t know that was popular in the US…I know thats tradition for some and looked at as good ect…but I personally find it morbid.

Correction: Napoleon’s defeat at Waterloo, WW2**

wow - female said:@MansVoice - you are completely intriguing. I cant believe how young you are. You have been one of the more inspirational “teachers” for me, and you have my complete respect. I hope that more women (those invading leeches) can come to this site and learn how to appreciate men. After all, what is the point of talking about all of this if nothing can be improved upon by it?

Yes, I am young. 17 but with a point to prove. I read alot - Alot. That is how I develop my ideas, thoughts and beliefs. I can spend nights reading through the Punic Wars, understanding the reasons for Napoleon’s defeat at WW2 and other interesting things as well. I believe that alot can be learnt from history - It is a mirror and a cycle that always seems to repeat itself.

Well, thanks for considering me worthy of being a “teacher” - I am honoured. Frankly speaking, I respond as to how I am being talked to. Your replies after you were enlightened were warm, understanding and appreciative and I saw it fair only to respond in kind. You would notice however, I am not that kind to condescending obnoxious intruders of this site. You reap what you sow, I guess. Do sign up for the forums if you wish to engage in more serious discussions - There are some really smart forumers who have a ton of things worth knowing about.

wow - female; It’s very good to see the lights turning on. :)

“What this represents is pure gender bias, females now enjoy the right to keep their genitals intact for all reasons while males have no such right. Bodily integrity should be a human right for every reason, and now that females have been granted that right it’s time to allow males to receive the same rights.”

Agreed.

@alen - OMG! Seriously I had NO idea that kind of thing took place, thanks (i think) for showing the extent of MGM, wow.
And I agree that western woman do ask for their babies to be circumsized, I did, with all three of my boys. But not becasue Im pro-circumcision, but because it is SO acceptable and almost forcibly recommended. I actually hated it for my kids all three times. I know that it was painful and it made me feel terrible everytime the cryed while urinating and I knew it was something “I” did to them. I also feel though, that American men, for the most part, accept circumcision for their children. My husband was for it as well, but I wonder if its because he wanted his boys’ penis to look like his, or maybe because he has also succumbed to the societal norm. Hmmm….