Keep The Camping To Purse Sales
Men are much better than women at camping. In fact, women are so bad at it, that there’s almost nothing as unpleasant as camping with a woman.
Except maybe one thing.
Camping with two women.
Women are full of shit. They shirk the equality curtain when it fits like a snake shedding its skin, and in the case of why women can’t do things like camping, construction working, or cigarette smoking worth a damn, they run the princess game faster than Logan. It’s a bunch of shit though. See, you can tell immediately because a woman is saying it.
The dirt and the infrequent showers have nothing to do with why women hate camping. Imagine this if you will.
You’ve accidentally locked yourself inside a shitty motel room in some hick town because you dropped a suitcase on the door knob and broke it off — accidentally. The only thing in the room for entertainment is a television set. Then it turns out that, oh great, some prick broke the television set.
Does that sound like fun? No fucking way. If you weren’t a man that kind of thing would reduce you to a babbling, neurotic mess within an hour. That’s why women behave like shrill disasters when they are taken camping; because nature is a woman’s Podunk, locked-in motel room and her mind is a broken television set.
How many women philosophers have there been? There has never been one, because not only do philosophers have to buy their own bullshit (and no woman ever has ever believed a word she said), but they also have to be alone with their thoughts for longer than the four seconds it takes a woman to say, ‘Not tonight I’m tired,’ and then pass out on the bigger half of the bed.
To all the young men out there — and I see this all the time, if you’re holding out for a woman who can go camping with you or some other klepto-crazy shit like play video games with you or what have you, I have one piece of advice. Why hold out for one? Why not just hold out for two…or a dozen?
Fuck, the sky’s the limit in fantasy land where a woman can go camping without embarrassing herself and everyone she’s with.
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September 22nd, 2005 at 1:02 pm - IP Man-Hash: 0e2f2db43d2f0
Women are as good at camping as they are at packing to go camping, or packing to go anywhere for that matter. Watching a woman prepare for anything is like watching 100 puppies try to build a picket fence. That’s to say that there is a lot of pissing, shitting themselves, barking, wimpering, begging for food, and in the end, no picket fence.
September 22nd, 2005 at 8:55 pm - IP Man-Hash: f397625caf295
I put this forth–what woman has ever done anything worth a shit? Sure, sure, our mothers are exempt–but what have women done for all of the major aspects of our society? Have they built the roads? How many women firefighters died on Sept. 11? How many women freed the prisoners at Auschwitz? How many women have written the Gospels? The Quran? The Dharmas? etc. etc. etc.
Now, here will be the arguments from the women:
–we were too busy taking care of the philosophers, the firefighters, the inventors, the workers (do you think these great men need your help?–face it, you’re servants).
–we were being oppressed by these men (if you are so easily oppressed, then how can you be superior?)
September 23rd, 2005 at 7:21 am - IP Man-Hash: bbdbd8f85eb8a
here’s some more arguments the univited women will probably resort to:
–Oh yeah, and we were busy having your babies. (pregnancy card Or, I guess they were busy having abortions because it didn’t fit in with their plans–they just tell their spouse/lover that they had a miscarriage, or blame it on him–he ran off from his responsibilities, etc. blah blah blah.)
–Well, who started the wars? Who put those people in Aushwitz? (this may seem like a good argument, even from a woman, but it is irrelevant. Just like they use one woman to represent all of the inventors/nobel prize winners in history (i.e, Madame Currie), they could use the ineffective spouses of evil men in history (i.e, Eva Braun–Hitler’s wife, ladies) Couldn’t she and Goring’s wife slashed their throats in their sleep–thereby strangling the Nazi machine? Clearly these women were oppressed and frightened.
–Then, we have Nicole’s debates. She will come back with–well, you are probably homosexual because you see through our BS—Or she’ll come back with the ever-popular NCSE12BS exam results she always mentions (by the way, good job on your grades, dear!). Nicole, sweety, you seem like you have a couple of brains in your head. Don’t delude yourself like most women do. You are not the movers and the shakers. You are the consumers. When you go out into the REAL FUCKING WORLD, and get away from the academic primary school bubble you currently live in, you will understand–maybe.
Guys, have I missed some?
September 23rd, 2005 at 10:43 am - IP Man-Hash: bbdbd8f85eb8a
Ladies,
Here is a challenge. I honestly will consider women to be equals if you can come up with five of the following:
–name ONE woman who invented the telescope.
–name ONE female philosopher.
–name ONE female responsible for any of the major world religious teachings (keeping in mind that Wiccan is NOT a major world religion).
–name ONE female scientist whose sole scientific theories have been incorporated into the modern scientific world.
–name ONE female who solely invented a cure for a disease.
–name ONE world-renowned painter from the Renaissance or Baroque eras.
–name ONE female US President (or, should I say, most powerful world leader).
–name ONE female inventor of something as amazingly important as the automobile, computer, books, dictionary, democracy, etc.
–name ONE female self-made billionaire who hasn’t been convicted of a felony.
–name ONE woman who died rescuing a man in the sept. 11 attacks.
rules:
–no conjecture–only facts.
–no spouses of famous men.
–no insults or accusations that I’m gay.
September 23rd, 2005 at 10:50 am - IP Man-Hash: e2bdae6dd4ca9
You’re practically soaking your drawers here, Jason. What’s your point?
September 23rd, 2005 at 11:04 am - IP Man-Hash: bbdbd8f85eb8a
I’m just waiting, kate. Got anything?
September 23rd, 2005 at 11:05 am - IP Man-Hash: bbdbd8f85eb8a
I’m already anticipating the whole “men have oppressed women throughout history–that’s why we don’t have anything to show for ourselves” card.
September 23rd, 2005 at 4:27 pm - IP Man-Hash: f42dfa09579f8
jason is a blind ass whore, have you not seen the multitudes of comments made showing things in that list. all i can say is do a bit more research, and back to the oppression of women thing, most of the scientist, inventors and whatevers couldnt have done anything without the women there to help. why is it that you men just cant accept that without women, you have nothing. i can admit we need me, but im not going to say that we are not as important as men. all people are created equally, with equal rights and opinions. oh, and to the who, “name one woman who died rescuing a man in sept 11″ thing, what was the gender of the person that instigated sept 11…. and look at their opinions of women. Do you find it sad that you have a lot in common with one of the evilest men in the history of the world?
September 23rd, 2005 at 5:35 pm - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
sera, why don’t you take your little playground bullshit somewhere else. Opinions are not equal. That’s wrong. I would say “go ask your father about it”, but judging by your crass attitude I can safely assume that’s not an option.
-Dick
September 23rd, 2005 at 6:24 pm - IP Man-Hash: 4793229809cef
aww, dick, your such a charmer, i can tell the girls all just swoon the second you walk in a room… wanna go out? ;) just joking, i do have standards you know…. oh, and my daddy says hi
September 24th, 2005 at 5:19 am - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
In 1845, Sarah Mather received a patent for the invention of a submarine telescope and lamp. This was a remarkable device that permitted sea-going vessels to survey the depths of the ocean.
A woman philosopher is Ann Bradstreet 1612/13 - 1672 who was English and explored Meditations Divine and Moral.
Aimee Semple McPherson was the founder of a branch of chritianity called Foursquare Gospel which today thousands of men and women follow.
Cannon, Annie Jump was a scientist, one of her most significant achievements in 20th-century astronomy and the basis for contemporary theoretical understanding of stellar evolution was the catalog which is still in use for identifying all stars.
Gertrude Elion patented the leukemia-fighting drug 6-mercaptopurine in 1954.
Levina Teerlinc - female painter of the Elizabethan and renaissance eras.
There has never been a female president, however there has never been a black president either, does this also mean black men are inferior. And there was of course Margaret Thatcher, and extremely popular prime minister.
Seeing as cars are very important to you men I thought I’d put this one on as a joke, Mary Anderson invented windshield wipers. � How cool, other wise we would have to drive in the rain without being able to see.
Oprah Winfrey is one of the richest talk show hosts ever.
Brooklyn Marie Harrington was a fire-fighter in the 9/11 attacks, who was injured rescuing a little boy, however she did manage to live. Let’s see how Dick will try to say she is inferior because she managed to survive.
Well jason thats not five but all of them. Now will you honestly consider women to be equals?
September 24th, 2005 at 10:06 am - IP Man-Hash: ac62c77584632
Margaret Thatcher? Your understanding of British politics and policy needs some serious work if you consider her role as one of “the most powerful world leader”.
The real question is who invented the tool you used to look all that up.
Sergey Brin and Larry Page. Sound like man names to me.
Men and women are not equal. That’s absurd. Your “evidence” is like eating a wild mushroom, surviving the experience, and then pronouncing all mushrooms safe; when in reality they’re all poison. You just got lucky.
-Dick
September 24th, 2005 at 8:04 pm - IP Man-Hash: bbdbd8f85eb8a
Nicole, I admire your woman effort. It was one of the best, non-insulting attempts at trying to show women’s equality that I’ve seen from you here.
Your answers were almost relevant, but they did not demonstrate a full answer to any of them. For example, your inventor of the submarine telescope merely developed a subset of the original invention. The leukemia cure answer is merely a treatment, not a cure (more like a bandage; albeit, I’m sure, a relief for sufferers). People still die from it.
Indeed, the windshield wiper is a plus, but not as monumental as what it wipes. The Renaissance artist is a very obscure example–hardly world-renown.
I will refrain from insulting you in this particular thread because you at least ATTEMPTED to do something–unlike Sera, who resorted to insults and a reliance on others’ previous posts. Saying something ridiculous like I should do my research is hilarious. If you don’t want to take the challenge–so be it–just don’t stand on the shoulders of others without contributing anything.
September 24th, 2005 at 11:41 pm - IP Man-Hash: ede4b54b5a72e
haha, maybe ive got more important things to do rather than actually research something that i know is already true. far out, what more do you guys want? you ask a question (well, a series of questions) and nicole found the answers, but its still not good enough…. oh well, hope nicole finds this as funny as i do or that would have been time wasted, its obvious that you boys will never be satisfied with any sort of proof. stubborn arent we, fellas? oh well, your the superior race arent you? ;) *sacrcasm*
September 25th, 2005 at 12:29 am - IP Man-Hash: 8e9e9fadaaaa4
Jason…. keep looking for more “excuses”, you’re getting closer and closer every time to being as pathetic as Dick… WELL DONE!!
September 25th, 2005 at 1:52 am - IP Man-Hash: 1c02f21d37550
That’s some poignancy from someone who can’t even master the “Name” box on the comment submission form. Thanks, “Leaving a comment”.
-Dick
September 25th, 2005 at 2:08 am - IP Man-Hash: ede4b54b5a72e
once again, you are avoiding the big issue, rather, you use the name that the person chose as a weapon. clever dick….
September 25th, 2005 at 2:21 am - IP Man-Hash: ede4b54b5a72e
That’s some poignancy from someone who can’t even master handling being proven wrong every once in a while
September 25th, 2005 at 2:22 am - IP Man-Hash: ede4b54b5a72e
-talking about dick-
September 25th, 2005 at 5:03 am - IP Man-Hash: bbdbd8f85eb8a
Thing is, little ladies, the questions WERE NOT CORRECT. When the correct answers are given, I will give my honest respect. I am not trying to be difficult, girls. Will your teacher in school accept the wrong answer as right? I honestly appreciated Nicole’s effort–but effort does not make it correct. Sera, my dear, perhaps you, in all your teenage wisdom, have some help for your sister-in-arms?
“leaving a comment”–what excuses were you talking about? Please be more specific.
September 25th, 2005 at 10:20 am - IP Man-Hash: 1c02f21d37550
Hey, great snotty, fifth grade comebacks girls. Now how about getting the fuck off the website. Maybe go iron a shirt, i don’t know. Make yourselves more than useless and petulant.
-Dick
September 25th, 2005 at 2:39 pm - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
Jason,
Asking me to find a person who invented a telescope when you know very well who invented it is pointless if you wont except my answer.
Who exactly has EVER invented a cure for a disese soley alone?
Of cource windshield wipers arnt as good as cars but you didnt specify that, besides it was just my attempt at humor. If you need a good example of an invention by a woman that telescope was a pretty good one.
The artist I wrote about painted Kings, of cource this is not good enough for you because nothing a woman does is ever good enough for you.
Despite your attempts to put me down, I still have 6 examples which you have not discredited. That is more than the 5 you asked for to consider me, and all women your equals.
I know you probably wont, but I know that I’m your equal and thats good enough for me.
September 25th, 2005 at 2:56 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1c02f21d37550
“Asking me to find a person who invented a telescope when you know very well who invented it is pointless if you wont except my answer.”
Then answering was pointless. Go away.
-Dick
September 25th, 2005 at 3:01 pm - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
Dick my comment was not aimed at you, but at jason. So mind your own buissness.
And I know what you will say “this is my site so its my buisness blah blah blah” but really I just dont care so save yourself some valuble typing time and dont bother to respond.
September 25th, 2005 at 3:03 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1c02f21d37550
Why would I need to respond, Nicole? You always do a terrific job of refuting your own points.
-Dick
September 25th, 2005 at 3:06 pm - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
And yet here you are, your one of those irritating people who continue to “argue” even after the other person has shut the door.
How can I put this in a way your little brain will understand.
I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK. dont bother to respond, really.
September 25th, 2005 at 3:10 pm - IP Man-Hash: 3dddc19b55aad
Nicely predicted again, Dick.
September 25th, 2005 at 3:13 pm - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
Dick predicted nothing, I predicted that he would respond, which he did.
September 25th, 2005 at 3:19 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1c02f21d37550
Thank you, alen. Good thing there isn’t some kind of emoticon that injures people over the internet. Nicole’s already resorted to shouting with her capital letters. When dealing with women that means double-standard violence is moments away.
Nicole, I was simply stating that if you knew your answer was not going to be accepted, it was pointless and a waste of your time to respond. That’s just like the battered wife who keeps coming home with her tail between her legs. It’s sad, pathetic, and exactly like you.
-Dick
September 25th, 2005 at 3:25 pm - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
Once again, pointing out the lesser evil. A man who batters his wife is much worse than the woman who returns.
September 25th, 2005 at 3:28 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1c02f21d37550
That’s got nothing to do with the point. What a surprise.
-Dick
September 25th, 2005 at 3:32 pm - IP Man-Hash: bbdbd8f85eb8a
Nicole, you are missing the point. Try thinking “outside the box.” When I ask for the person who invented the telescope, give me something comparable–not just a telescope inventor–but make it relevant and comparable. I’m not going to get into an insult-slinging parade–and you, surprisingly, haven’t either (at least to me). I need proof–as men are wont to do–that women are equal to men if this is going to be the recurring theme.
One thing, ladies, that you’re not seeing in all of this is that the concept of equality of the sexes is impossible–and I’m not even giving you a hard time here. We are separate genders, therefore, we cannot be equal–it is inherently impossible. Men (generally speaking) are stronger, faster, more logical, capable of thinking more abstractly and have needed to be for ages — it all goes back to the primitive hunter-gatherer concept.
Men, who were the hunters, needed to rely on their wits and physical prowess to survive.
Women , on the other hand, were nurturers of family: conception, birth, oral communication and the gathering of nuts, berries, and roots were the staple of women’s lives–and, unfortunately, left women ill-prepared to meet man in modern societies.
Now, amongst other women, the different intellectual and physical hierarchies are evident, though still different IN COMPARISON with men.
But, ladies, why compare yourselves with such loathsome creatures as men? Comparison always leads to the root problem–the need to compare means that one is equal to the other, but of differing substance. Be happy with yourselves and realize that men should have a forum to discuss women–imperfections and all–whether or not you like it.
Have a good evening, combatants.
September 26th, 2005 at 8:31 am - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
Sera, Ness, WHoretencia:
Come on, girlies. You’re not going to have Nicole do ALL of the work, are you? Surely, with the combined brainpower of one substandard man, the group of you honeys could break out the encyclopedia and figure out that my questions, though loaded, illustrate my point.
September 26th, 2005 at 9:22 am - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
So basically Jason, you were lying when you said you would consider women your equals if we could come up with 5 of your examples.
September 26th, 2005 at 11:12 am - IP Man-Hash: 0e2f2db43d2f0
Seriously, watch a woman try to pack sometime. It is terrible and tragic.
September 26th, 2005 at 11:26 am - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
Not “come up with.” I meant, ANSWER correctly.
Why am I repeating myself? I asked for answers, not conjecture or near-answers.
Best example: that obscure-ass Elizabethan painter you mentioned (who even you had to explain what she did). Who the FUCK was she? I said World-renowned. I ask for Jerry Seinfeld, and you give me Carrot Top. Jesus Christ.
As far as I’m concerned, any more posts by women in this NO WOMEN ALLOWED Men’s forum do not exist to me–I will skip over them.
No, little girls’ remarks do not give this forum any pizzazz. It makes it void of any possible intelligent discussions and frustratingly circular in logic. Thisis the EXACT reason women NEVER invent anything. They can never get out the door. Women are boring and conniving and other women don’t even like them for it.
All replies to this from women will be ignored. Fuck you!
September 26th, 2005 at 11:50 am - IP Man-Hash: e2bdae6dd4ca9
“As far as I’m concerned, any more posts by women in this NO WOMEN ALLOWED Men’s forum do not exist to me–I will skip over them.”
Why did you ask the women any questions in the first place, Jason? How very convenient that you want to ignore them all NOW.
And for the record, you just came out worse in an argument with someone who says things like, “Dick predicted nothing, I predicted that he would respond, which he did.”
Congratulations!
Oh, and fuck you too.
September 26th, 2005 at 12:07 pm - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
jason, even with you bitching about some of my answers I still gave you 6 which you have not discredited. Thats more than the 5 you requested.
So yes to lied, either that or you had no intension of considering us as equals in which case why ask?
September 26th, 2005 at 2:00 pm - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
Dick, what do you, Dan, alen, Manley, or any of the other men think here? Do I ask a lot? Have my questions been thoroughly and CORRECTLY answered? Are these women still bitching (I’ve decided not to acknowledge their turd-like excuses for posts)? Perhaps within the upbringings these chicks were raised, an INCORRECT answer or deed was rewarded because their parents/teachers/gimp-handlers didn’t wish to quell their already fragile self-esteems with the crushing reality that they would never live up to a man’s potential.
I don’t know about you guys, but a CORRECT answer also constitutes a fact. Anything close to that is still subpar. Hey, same could be said for a man–anything close to but not equal to a man is still inequal and, therefore, subpar.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:51 pm - IP Man-Hash: a071e097cf3de
Dick, Dick, can I have a cookie? Will you be my friend, Dick? Look at me Dick, I’m posting great aren’t I! Hey Dick am I doing good? Am I? Am I posting good stuff for you Dick? Can I get my lollipop now?
Sincerely,
Jason
September 26th, 2005 at 5:44 pm - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
Anyway, back to my question.
September 26th, 2005 at 7:33 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1c02f21d37550
Kate, please. Men don’t give out things like lollipops and unicorn stickers. If any accolade is necessary we have badges of merit, trophies of metal, etc.
-Dick
September 26th, 2005 at 8:12 pm - IP Man-Hash: 3f6f1bc89c9c0
jason…it’s sad that they continue to stay where they are not wanted. Not even my huge, well lubricated man-brain can understand why they are still posting here. At first it was funny to see Dick’s articles come to life in the posts by these wantwit women, but now it’s just sad and annoying. Who knows, maybe one day they will leave and we will have a chance for some serious discourse.
September 26th, 2005 at 8:13 pm - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
which “women”? I actually know some decent women–albeit not up to par with men–but the girlies here really do their sex a disservice
September 27th, 2005 at 2:52 am - IP Man-Hash: 682b6c01ada1d
jason, you did kinda say that if a women could give you 5 answers you would consider them equals. You cant go back on your word, your giving us men a bad name.
Edit by Dick
This is actually Nicole. Posted from the same IP. Poor form.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:24 am - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
Where are the five answers, Jack? Come on, you know that incorrect does not an answer be.
September 27th, 2005 at 9:11 am - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
I was at school when these comments were posted. So unless someone broke into my house posing as a guy named Jack pretending to be me then Dick is lying. That or he has no ability to check IP and is insulting any man with a brain.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:20 am - IP Man-Hash: e2bdae6dd4ca9
Nicole, do you have an alibi? Didn’t you once pretend to be your own father on this site?
September 27th, 2005 at 11:30 am - IP Man-Hash: 56806c0431943
An alibi?
I was at school all day.
As already explained. Unlike some of the losers on this site I do not sit at home all day on a computer.
I’ve noticed Dick has put the IP number next to all coments. Not surprisingly mine is different to “Jacks”
You proved your own acusations wrong Dick, lets see if you can admit your mistake.
September 27th, 2005 at 11:55 am - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
Fiction can be fun, Nicole. But I find the reference section much more enlightening.
For instance, if you were to look up MenAreBetterThanWomen.com’s all-time bone head posts:
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/strangelove/#comment-164
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/one-in-two-women-is-illiterate/#c omment-163
You would find that the IP Man-Hash’s of your prior posts match perfectly. Meaning that you posted from another computer once before and then used that same computer to post as “Jack” and “Jenny”. Don’t believe me? Click on the IP Man-Hashes for Jack and Jenny yourself and be prepared to be not surprised.
I have exorcized the demon.
-Dick
September 27th, 2005 at 5:48 pm - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
Thank you, Dick. By the way, could you please acknowledge your opinion on the validity of the so-called answers I’ve asked for? Are they correct if they’re incorrect?
September 27th, 2005 at 5:58 pm - IP Man-Hash: 0e2f2db43d2f0
Ace Ventura, how very mantastic!
September 27th, 2005 at 6:18 pm - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
Correct and incorrect are such manly terms, jason. That’s one of the reasons that women are banned from this site.
Women deal in opinions and magic and fairy tale bullshit so that they can never be labeled or pinned down. It also means they can never have any responsibility or be accountable for absolutely fucking anything.
From a man’s point of view, obviously no none of the answers are valid because Nicole missed the point entirely. From a woman’s point of view however — to use the words of a good friend of mine — “apples are orange!”
-Dick
September 27th, 2005 at 7:21 pm - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
thank you. I have been taught that, in order to complete a task, it must be completed properly. I’m sure there are women out there who have achieved enormous feats. Women, as a whole, though, have not contributed anything momumental to the furthering of technology, transportation, academics, philosophy, art, poetry, sanitation, medicine, astronomy, government, etc., etc, ad nauseum.
Now, ladies, don’t get me wrong–I know why, and it’s not that you are worthless 9even if I’ve said it jokingly before). You are important in nurturing a family (just as long as a man is present to balance out your hormonally-charged passion). Thanks for all the hard work.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:52 pm - IP Man-Hash: 3f6f1bc89c9c0
“I’ve noticed Dick has put the IP number next to all coments.”
Just to be clear, they are hashes of ips, not ips themselves. It’s an important distinction, but one would have to know what a hash and an ip was before one could make it.
September 28th, 2005 at 6:11 am - IP Man-Hash: 3dddc19b55aad
“Unlike some of the losers on this site I do not sit at home all day on a computer.”
*cough* bullshit *cough*
Nicole; according to these numbers; you’ve submitted more comments than anyone. You might not be sitting at home commenting all the time; but certainly others here have more of a life…
Guess it’s true what Dick says… “Quantity over quality”
September 28th, 2005 at 7:32 am - IP Man-Hash: 3dddc19b55aad
Jason,
I think the mistake was stating that single, isolated examples indicated equal ability overall. Nicole took this litterally; but it logically it shouldn’t be the case. There are always anomolies in any measurement. What’s important is
1) whether the measurements convey what you’re intending to measure
2) whether the anomolies carry any meaning
3) what the overall proportion and trends are.
Nicole seems to be implying that she believes 2) it true and that the presumed meaning is that women have been held back and largely haven’t been able to achieve to their true potential [based on other comments of hers]. (But this is an entire different issue)
September 29th, 2005 at 1:44 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7cafc309a7d82
Just to make one point here about invention, because I keep on hearing about how people - particularly women - have “invented” this and that. We have another example in Nicole’s posting that Sarah Mather received a patent for the “invention” of a submarine telescope and lamp.
Now receiving a patent does not make you an inventor. It just means you took out a patent. Anyone can do this just by putting their name to something that nobody else got their name to first. That “something” can be anything you want; it doesn’t make it an invention. Even if it is an invention, it might be somebody else’s that you just nicked by getting to the patent office first. There have been many examples in history.
Now look. I could sharpen the end of a spoon, use it to dig wax out of my ears, and patent it. There you have it: the patented Parmenter ear de-waxer. Provided nobody else got there first, of course (sorry I didn’t bother to check this). But it doesn’t make me an inventor. All I have done is to take somebody else’s idea and apply it in a different way that nobody else got to yet. If it’s clever and people want to buy it, then I can make money from it. If it’s really clever, everyone might marvel at it and use it to make the world a better place. But there are thousands of patented ideas that are just crummy and not worth the paper they are written on. Like my ear de-waxer.
So I have to take a pinch of salt when I hear about some of these so-called inventions, which are really nothing more than design modifications or different applications of what already exists. I read about a convention for “female inventors” some while back. They were all of this ilk - nothing really original. The ludicrous example that sticks in my mind was the woman who had “invented” a feather duster with an elongated handle for getting into the corner of ceilings. Inventor? Don’t make me laugh.
A real invention represents a leap forward. It is something that did not exist previously in any way shape or form, that nobody would recognise first off because they had not seen the like of it before, and that represents a step change in a particular field. Novelty ear de-waxers and extensions to feather dusters don’t count. Regardless of the patent.
Which brings us to the supposedly inventive Sarah and her submarine lamp and telescope. Let’s allow her to be the person who dreamed up the idea - we can’t be sure, it might have been her dad or her husband who just wanted to be nice to her and let her have the patent; that happens too - so I give her credit for a clever application of somebody’s else’s invention. But at most, that’s all it was. Now if she had been the first person to produce a lamp, or a telescope, then that would make her a real inventor. But finding a novel application for what somebody else had invented, just makes her a novel applicator.
So you have to do better than this, Nicole.
September 29th, 2005 at 7:42 pm - IP Man-Hash: 681f2e2cfc31a
Paul, exactly the point I’ve been trying to drive home–it’s just that women can’t hear what they don’t want to. I said I wanted correct answers–not bullshit answers like I received. Instead, I was told that I should ackowledge said answers as valid. None of her answers were correct, but I’m just supposed to overlook that, right?
September 30th, 2005 at 6:41 am - IP Man-Hash: e2bdae6dd4ca9
The reason that Paul can “drive the point home” so well is that, unlike you, he’s able to present valid argument in an intelligent and reasonable manner.
It makes a very nice change from your endless brown-nosing and Nicole’s increasingly entertaining stupidity.
October 3rd, 2005 at 1:15 pm - IP Man-Hash: e6e8a32757691
Nice reference to Ace Ventura, Dick; a thoroughly male film. That brings me to another point - how often are women quoted? Why the fuck would you ever want to start a book, essay, PHD thesis, or anything worth a shit by quoting a woman? The answer is simple, if your aim was to fail at whatever you set out to achieve. The only reason you would ever want to quote a woman is to illustrate her stupidity.
Done.
October 3rd, 2005 at 1:26 pm - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
Woody, I’ll tell you one quote springs immediately to mind.
“Let them eat cake.”
-Dick
October 4th, 2005 at 6:10 pm - IP Man-Hash: b6c12cbf7c5ae
wasn’t the person that found the cure for polio a woman?
October 4th, 2005 at 6:18 pm -