Every Woman is a Cheating Whore
Oh yes, that’s right. That’s what I said. And I said it because it’s true. All women are cheaters.
I don’t mean this to be a provocateur or to prance around in the realm of the hypothetical like some kind of dandy. I mean, flat out, that every woman in the world is a cheater, has cheated, and is probably cheating at this very moment.
Getting a woman to cheat on her husband or significant other is not like getting a woman to go to the gym — by heaping shitloads of gifts and attention on her like a spoilt child and then ultimately getting no burn for your earn. Getting a woman to cheat is like getting a duck to eat bread crumbs or a rat to eat rubbish. All you have to do is toss it in front of their face.
It’s not a hard conclusion to draw, so let’s just look at the facts. Getting attention from men is a woman’s lifeblood. That’s why women worship men in the form of menial tasks that they’re not very good at — because men control our attention like the gods of old controlled the sun and the crypt. We giveth and we can taketh away.
Good attention, bad attention, the worst kind of attention; it doesn’t matter. To a woman, being in a Girls Gone Wild video is just as laudable as serving in a highly respected public office. They stack up eyeballs like empty pie plates at a NOW convention.
So let’s compare: a woman’s lust for attention versus a man’s desire to consume or waste things — something very manly indeed. Take throwing a sandwich in the street for example. Do you know what’s better than throwing a sandwich in the street? That’s right, throwing two sandwiches in the street. Now what if that sandwich cost twice as much as the first? What if you had to wait in line again to get it? I would probably still do it and I’m betting that most men would. But what if dealing with two sandwiches cost you your dignity, your job, and your soul?
Women, of course, have none of those things — or at least don’t have 2 out of 3. That’s why when we change ’sandwiches’ to ‘men’ and ‘throwing them in the street’ to ‘getting any kind of attention from them’, we can easily draw the conclusion that women would do anything, and would stop at the destruction of nothing, for more of it.
Not even guilt will stop women from being the cheating harlots that they are. That’s because women think that cheating requires some kind of expressed willingness or premeditation on their part to actually count. I shit you not, that is exactly what they say. To a woman true cheating requires a planning and malice on par with a bank robbery. If the only evidence of infidelity you can produce is that she got drunk and put herself in a compromising position, you’re up argument creek without a chance in hell.
Can you believe that? It means if a woman can somehow convince a co-worker to force himself on her, or to “rape” her, that doesn’t count as cheating. It’s just another horrible thing that’s happened to poor defenseless her in this dog eat dog, man-world of rape happy abusers. That’s obviously a bunch of bullshit, but stand back because it gets worse.
Women also don’t count miring themselves in twisted, Dynasty-styled emotional affairs as cheating. For instance, a woman may hang around with as many as five or six of her ex-boyfriends without batting an eye. She may accept niceties from male co-workers or university staff members without ever questioning the motive of a free backrub. That’s a perfectly reasonable thing to be handing out, isn’t it? A free backrub? They’re like porno pamphlets in Vegas. Sometimes I can’t even get to work without getting two or three.
Bullshit.
Like any virus, women are not content with ruining their own lives. Ultimately, they seek out the lives of decent, honest men and tempt and corrupt them until they appear to be cheaters as well when nothing could be further from the truth. Cheating is like getting pregnant. It’s 100% a woman’s fault 100% of the time.
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November 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 am - IP Man-Hash: 9efaeb2a8447e
Sooo, what you’re saying is that you cheated on your partner which had some pretty shitty serious repercussions job/homelife wise and now you’re blaming the woman who you cheated with? How ungenerous.
November 22nd, 2005 at 5:28 am - IP Man-Hash: d754ab99d7c00
How is it, Female, that you manage to read almost precisely the reverse meaning into what most people write?
Good post Dick.
Indeed. We can see that here, with Female. (thankfully that ’seeing’ is figurative rather than literal).
-wolfe
November 22nd, 2005 at 5:40 am - IP Man-Hash: 9efaeb2a8447e
In answer to your question, it’s called ‘reading between the lines.’
Clearly, I can see that the comment I made about being friends with my exbf, which lead to Dick and various others calling me a whore, because I said I was in love with someone else, has inspired dick to write about cheating. So, even though the story is about women cheating, the truth of the matter is that a woman inspired the story but is not the subject of it.
I am fairly sure that the subject cheater is actually dick and his inability to face his guilt for cheating has been reversed and transformed into blame towards the woman how he cheated on his partner with. This has now progressed into hate/bitterness for all woman and the massive overgeneralization that all woman cheat and are cheaters. Nice new stereotype you’re promoting there dick. Impressive.
Here’s the thing
“they seek out the lives of decent, honest men and tempt and corrupt them.”
Yeah, I know that after that he’s put “until they appear to be cheaters as well when nothing could be further from the truth.”
But that doesn’t really logically follow on from the admission that he had been tempted and corrupted. Unless of course ‘corrupted’ means decent in dick’s world. I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.
November 22nd, 2005 at 6:01 am - IP Man-Hash: d754ab99d7c00
Female.
Read, learn, mark, and inwardly digest.
OK, I don’t think you can. But I’d love it if you proved me wrong.
Most of what you said was nonsense. I think it had something to do with laundry.
-wolfe.
November 22nd, 2005 at 8:20 am - IP Man-Hash: 957564b4aff6d
Dick has a good point in bringing up emotional affairs. During a rockier time in my marriage, I found myself growing too close to one of my male friends. I was alarmed when I realized this and had to consciously back away from the friendship, as well as work mentally to sever those emotional ties. I was fortunate - the emotional attachment faded, and since it had never gone beyond an emotional attachment, my husband and I are still friends with the man in question. (Now, I look back on things and feel pretty silly, as my husband is the better man hands-down.)
November 22nd, 2005 at 9:58 am - IP Man-Hash: 36b8f7f020850
Bravo once again Dick for publication of the truth.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:13 am - IP Man-Hash: 957564b4aff6d
Oh, I also want to add that the reason emotional affairs should not be treated lightly or dismissed as harmless is because, for women, most full-blown affairs begin on an emotional level.
November 22nd, 2005 at 2:24 pm - IP Man-Hash: 50edddc78543d
If in any doubt, ask at any Maternity Hospital about the blood group of the children ?
You will find that the resultant blood group inf a third of those babies are incompatible with both registered parents.
Someone is lying and it ain’t the Father.
November 22nd, 2005 at 3:35 pm - IP Man-Hash: 9efaeb2a8447e
Pfft. Do you people seriously blame women for affairs? How very interesting, you are all incredibly moralistic and conceited aren’t you? Ever heard the expression, “it takes two to tango?” No, you probably haven’t. Too busy being self-absorbed and complete and utter fuckwits.
November 22nd, 2005 at 4:21 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1cc2bd319db66
hi female
“Female” :Ever heard the expression, “it takes two to tango?â€?
so you also think a single man should be held morally responsible for the plan to cheat, which the woman made to begin with, and which the single man didn´t have any idea of? that is absurd.
Half-Soul
November 22nd, 2005 at 5:12 pm - IP Man-Hash: dd25bee8154fe
wtf? That is not how I interpreted dick’s story, but in regards to your example, if the woman was in a relationship and pursued the other man (then of course she is responsible), however, if the single man knew she was in a relationship but still decided to also pursue a relationship with the woman, then he is equally responsible. At the end of the day, you can’t help who you fall “in love/lust/infatuation” with, so I think it comes down to weighing up the pros and cons of the decision to engage in elicit behaviour. If their are children involved, especially young ones, it is generally ill-advised. Sometimes love is also inaction, in that, you have to sacrifice your own feelings and walk away for the benefit of others.
November 22nd, 2005 at 7:39 pm - IP Man-Hash: 2d19dfc739b51
Feamle said “At the end of the day, you can’t help who you fall “in love/lust/infatuationâ€? with…”
How predictably refreshing, how originally banal. How so very unusually typical of a female to completely DENY RESPONSIBILITY. You just got finished saying it takes two to tango and everyone within a 2km radius shares in the responsibility of YOUR ACTIONS and then you turn around and summarily deny same.
What a surprise.
Female, you should really stop wasting your breath in this pig dog haven of meesogeenust men and their rape extensions. You are VERY PREDICTABLE and everything you say is a variation on the same theme.
Why dont you just cut to the chase and drop the FE and just admit that you wish you were a MALE. Your choice of handle says it all. You are here not to challenge us, but to challenge yourself. Wading thru your latent penis envy is getting old.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:12 pm - IP Man-Hash: 957564b4aff6d
Mr. Masterson has his beliefs on the issue, which I am not going to attempt to change - my personal belief is that women are 100% responsible for their own actions - and men are also 100% responsible for their own actions.
And you can help whom you fall in love/lust/infatuation with. People can control their own thoughts and emotions, rather than letting their thoughts and emotions control them.
November 23rd, 2005 at 2:39 am - IP Man-Hash: 5934e066dd9d4
I have yet to meet a woman that isn’t flattered by any scrap of attention that comes her way. Even if it is the spotty-faced kid behind the counter handing out her bucket of lard, she’s still smiling or winking her to herself ‘hey, i still got it’.
As for a genuine hot whore, well, it’s like there’s a party in her pants and all the cool guys are invited. Females, regardless of relationship status, will prance around like the cheapest two dollar hooker for a bit of good ole boy, particularly if they know they can’t be caught. Females I work with who try this I view with contempt. I have a rule of ‘Don’t screw the crew’, but your average female worker thinks that fucking or sucking their way around the workplace is just something you do as part of the whole ‘work’ thing.
Trust me, age does not weary them. The older slappers, potential mothers and grand mothers are some of the worst. whores and harlots, the lot of ‘em. If they didn’t have hairy checkbooks, they would be stacked 10 high at the rubbish tip.
November 23rd, 2005 at 8:21 am - IP Man-Hash: 6c059e71336cb
A-freakin-men, Dick.
Arielle does have a point–everyone is responsible for his own actions. The difference between men and non-men is that men take responsibility. In every case in my circles where there has been an affair on the man’s part, he honed up to it (even the one who openly stated that he was going to carry on with the woman he was having an affair with.) The women I know who have had affairs just blame the men or say it wasn’t really cheating–every time.
I know about a half-dozen hot women, any one of whom I could call up for some action at any time for free. Some of them are married. The only reason I don’t is because I’m a man (okay, and an old-fashioned abstinence freak), but because I am a man, it is only natural that I don’t think with my reproductive organs.
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:38 am - IP Man-Hash: 957564b4aff6d
Ian, you’re a man to be respected.
November 23rd, 2005 at 7:36 pm - IP Man-Hash: cbda87eba97d3
“I know about a half-dozen hot women, any one of whom I could call up for some action at any time for free. Some of them are married. The only reason I don’t is because I’m a man ”
Lol, Ian you just made my day.
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:22 pm - IP Man-Hash: d754ab99d7c00
Ian: interesting blog.
On this matter [affairs], as on many moral matters, I like to think about both culpability and responsibility. Culpability is guilt: what you have done is wrong. Responsibility is neutral: you can be responsible for a heinous act, or for a heroic one.
I won’t speak for men in general, but for myself, and I always consider myself to be responsible. I do not think I would ever have an affair outside marriage or a long-term committment. However, here are my thoughts about such an event.
If I ever had an affair, I’d be responsible. Especially an involvement — while I was single — with a married woman even if I didn’t know she was married but failed to do due diligence on her. (Now if I was uninvolved, and she faked her identity, claimed to be single, masqueraded as such brilliantly, put together a set of friends to lie to me for her, rented a separate apartment, then yes, while I would still be responsible, my culpability would be greatly diminished.)
If I were married, about the only thing that I could see greatly reducing my culpability — though not responsibility — to roughly zero would be repeated, continual denial of intimacy (physical and emotional) from my wife over many years.
Even then, an affair would have to be with a single woman who knew from the beginning the circumstances and never received a false promise from me. (e.g. “My wife doesn’t understand me, you do baby, I’ll divorce her soon” and such odious trash).
Even then [with long-term denial of intimacy] there are circumstances were to get involved with someone else would leave me culpable. A woman who uses intimacy (and denial of it) as a weapon is not to be respected. She has broken her marital vows. A woman who has been raped and remains terrified even in the marital bed for 2 years … that’s completely different.
To sum up: I think the look at this as an issue solely of responsibility is only part of the matter; culpability matters as well.
But that’s just my 2 cents.
Best to all, especially Ian,
-wolfe
November 25th, 2005 at 5:24 am - IP Man-Hash: b7795a2dc403c
Arielle, please reread what I posted. I never said emotions and thoughts couldn’t be controlled, I said you cannot help who you fall for. Ever seen Dangerious Liaisons? ‘beyond my control’ springs to mind. Top movie, should’ve been in that earlier movie list. Anyhow, yes I agree, it is possible to break your own heart and walk away, just not very nice that’s all.
November 27th, 2005 at 2:04 pm - IP Man-Hash: a11c28e7713fa
Dear Female,
Christ you speak absolute and utter codswallop.
Surely that VD infested cunt of yours must be loose enough by now to get your entire head up there.
“Clearly, I can see that the comment I made about being friends with my exbf,”
You can’t be “friends” with an ex-BF. It shows disloyalty to the man you are with- Hanging around with someone that you used to fuck. Men don’t hang around with their ex-GF’s. Why? Because of the prefix- “Ex.” Fuck you’re a dozy mole.
Of course, it wouldn’t be like a woman to give a rats kazoo how someone else may perceive the situation, or to be loyal to one.
“Because I said I was in love with someone else.”
Women love only themselves and what they can get from a man. That shit from your mouth is getting so thick you can walk on it.
“Which lead to Dick and various others calling me a whore.”
If it walks like a duck…
“Do you people seriously blame women for affairs?”
Because if she doesn’t open her filthy legs- Nothing would happen.
“At the end of the day, you can’t help who you fall “in love/lust/infatuationâ€? with…”
That’s what you tell yourself as you bounce around from one man to the other isn’t it? Slut. Grow some balls. If you love someone- You love them without question and to the exclusion of all others.
But I suppose a harlot like you wouldn’t understand that.
You women are disease infested rats jumping ship everytime a new and more appealing larder appears.
You really are a worthless whore of the lowest order.
November 27th, 2005 at 9:57 pm - IP Man-Hash: 5475964f1d333
How disgusting. If you bothered to read (and learn to spell) you would know that Female has been banned and therefore won’t be able to answer your insulting post, so hopefully she won’t mind me responding on her behalf. I think your post is absolutely disgraceful and you ought to take a very hard look at yourself in the mirror. Dick, as sitemaster, I would urge you to ban pigs like this from posting their filthy words.
November 27th, 2005 at 11:53 pm - IP Man-Hash: ac62c77584632
She started it.
-Dick
November 28th, 2005 at 12:02 am - IP Man-Hash: 127ff9689b3c3
Femalemark2 Says:
“so hopefully she won’t mind me responding on her behalf.”
Another from the same hyve ?
What difference does it make.
November 28th, 2005 at 12:49 am - IP Man-Hash: b7795a2dc403c
Femalemark2, thanks a lot for that, yes, this guy is a jerk of the highest order. Now, I don’t know how you feel about vulgar language, it doesn’t sound like you like it too much, but I’m afraid I’m going to have to address Mickey - hereafter to be referred to as the “mouse” - with a few expletives, he clearly needs one in particular that begins with an F. Sorry mouse, but you won’t be getting that one from me, no matter how much you beg for it.
You are a major fucktard, that is perfectly clear, you are also a presumptive little shit. You are calling me a slut and a whore because 1. I said I am still friends (not lovers) with my ex-boyfriend and 2. because I said I am in love with someone else. Here’s the thing, I am not shagging my ex (not that that is any of your sick fucking business) and 2. I may be “in love” with someone else but I am not with this person…..so why don’t you go and find the nearest shape appropriating a broom handle and jam it up your arse. You’ll enjoy it, I’m sure about that.
November 28th, 2005 at 6:43 am - IP Man-Hash: d754ab99d7c00
He did. That’s exactly why “Female” was banned. If you actually read what she wrote, she cursed nearly continuously, and repeatedly made crude personal attacks.
That having been said, no, I don’t support Mickey’s choice of words. They are crude and cruel. Though the accuracy of “you speak absolute and utter codswallop.” cannot be denied, nor can the fact that he responded to her in the manner which she herself initiated.
Moreover, by site Terms of Service, he has a right to be here (even cruel and crude); she doesn’t.
If Mickey (a newish poster) slammed a woman like Arielle (who has posted here) with language like that, I would probably politely remonstrate, though not to the point of conflict. Arielle, whatever her faults, has behaved like a lady. Female has behaved like an obnoxious whinging irrational creature spewing venom.
-wolfe
November 28th, 2005 at 12:46 pm - IP Man-Hash: 637bafa67bded
So in your opinion then, regardless of the accuracy of the mouse’s statements, it is okay for him to call me a slut and a whore, even though, in your words, those words are “cruel” and “crude”.???
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again in case you didn’t see it with your substandard man eyes, you are a nasty piece of work.
November 28th, 2005 at 2:18 pm - IP Man-Hash: a11c28e7713fa
Guide for Women Engaged in an Argument They’ve Started.
1. If you’ve started the argument and are responded to in-kind, pretended to be hurt at the words you’ve just heard.
2. Call the other person crude and hurtful, even if your words previously match what has just been said by you.
3. Cry and whimper a little bit.
4. Question whether the male who insulted you really needs sexual intercourse. Then proclaim that he will never get it off you.
5. Justify, justify, justify. “I’m not really shagging him,” “I’m in love with another.” Then state “But it’s not like any of this is your business.”
6. Get the opinion of other people and then turn on them.
7. Sit in the corner and bitch a little more.
Female. It absolutely baffles the mind. How many times have you been told, that as a woman, you aren’t welcome here? How many times does someone have to tell you something before it seeps through that thick layer of bone, you call a cranium and into that worthless pile of tissue you’d like to call a brain?
Do you get some sick perverted thrill out of standing around here like the proverbial mad woman on the corner, screaming at passers-by with your virulent words and ideas, attempting and believing that somehow you might just convert others over to your way of thinking, yet still not realising that all we see is a crazy bitch, finger banging herself and ranting uncontrollably?
Did I, in any shape or form ask you about your personal life? No. You volunteered the information freely. Your behaviour is therefore up for debate or ridicule.
If my words disturb you, or my choice of language offends you, why not run back under the covers with a flashlight and hope that all the little monsters get out of your room and leave you alone?
The sad part about all of this- Is that you don’t get it. You, like many women, wouldn’t have the faintest idea about what it’s like to look through another’s eyes. You, like the other creatures in your species, narrow their world view down to the light of pin that focuses upon one person.
Yourselves.
Consider for one moment, how it must feel for your boyfriend, or significant other, to see you galavanting around with an ex-BF? Despite the fact, the nutless wonder may say he is “cool” with it, he is deep down offended and hurt that you would spend time with someone that you aren’t supposed to be seeing anymore.
Human beings are simple creatures, and despite our collective imploration that we are a civil and modern species, we are still primitive beings, with primitive emotions- Emotions like jealousy.
So, even though he may state it is fine, deep down he’d love to pick up the nearest piece of two by four and beat the bastard senseless.
You think about living with that feeling.
Then you start to get deeper into this maelstrom of shit that women infect the world with. Their lies, deceit, harlotry, their dishonesty, the nagging, the bitchiness, the two faced behaviour and their general level of selfishness which defies the imagination.
Would it not be much to ask the women of the world, to treat others, especially the ones they love, with a quiet dignity, respect and honesty, that many, notice I didn’t say “all,” men treat their partners, girlfriends and wives with?
In this world- No. Tied up in their own little worlds a woman sees only herself and what she can gain.
And that is why I called you a worthless whore.
November 28th, 2005 at 2:19 pm - IP Man-Hash: eadd56da2c7c9
Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it, Female.
A man would understand that.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:06 pm - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
Dan pointed out something exactly like that the other day. A woman will automatically default to screaming and cursing when arguing with a man because she knows there is no chance in hell she’ll be punched in the kisser.
-Dick
November 28th, 2005 at 7:13 pm - IP Man-Hash: bebea11c145d3
Even though they have sincerley earned and asked for it all along. Almost begging.
A bitchslap would be too soft.
November 28th, 2005 at 11:24 pm - IP Man-Hash: d754ab99d7c00
What part of “no, I don’t support Mickey’s choice of words” do you not grasp? Is there some mitigation for what he did? Yes. Does that make it right? Not to me. Does the fact that he, in my mind, dealt with you in a manner I don’t approve of make you any more innocent of repeated character assassination, smears, personal trashings, racism, bigotry, abuse, cursing, and violations of terms of service? No.
Now go back and study Mickey’s followup post. While harsh, it is kinder and more polite than most of what you write, and contains a very considerable amount of wisdom. You would do well to change your ways and learn from it.
Female, make your own site. Call it whatever you want. Create whatever terms of service you want. Post about your opinions on men. Ban people like Dick, me, Mickey, Christian, Al, Geeza to your heart’s content. But don’t expect to repeatedly violate the rules here without being called on it, either directly by Dick or indirectly by others.
Big Al: you said it most succinctly.
November 28th, 2005 at 11:40 pm - IP Man-Hash: eadd56da2c7c9
Additional man-points to you for patience, wolfe.
I was going to say it’s like talking to a little kid, but my seven year old has more perception. Not to mention manners.
November 29th, 2005 at 1:20 am - IP Man-Hash: b7795a2dc403c
I should start this post off I guess by saying I have had a few reds and may therefore be more incoherent, than usual, to the regulars here.
Dick really should have kept the ban in place as has come time for us to part anyway (I did clean the cache dick, empty all the cookies and reinstall the firewall after yours or anothers repeated attempts to send me that nasty network virus, hasn’t got through btw).
I have tried to be honest with you men many times, usually when trying to make you be less angry or bitter towards women in general, which at the end of the day was for your own good. You will be far better off yourselves if you didn’t let the anger get to you so much. I can perfectly understand why many of you are justifiably angry with what has happeneed to you in your relationships, but that is no reason to automatically cast judgement on every other woman walking the earth.
I admit, I have acted like an incredible ass (or mule) on many occassions when I felt like taking the piss and couldn’t be bothered expending the energy to realistically debate you on your views. I did this because sometimes it is easier to laugh at people than to try and change their mind. I think dick and both wolfe saw through that on a few occassions, but you other men clearly haven’t. You’ll probably think this post is absolute bullshit. It isn’t. I am genuinely sorry to anyone if I have offended you on any points and I’ll abide by the rules of service, stop playing mind games and go. I’ll still read dick’s stories though, cause he is a funny bastard (that’s a compliment, btw). Just so you know, I am not a whore and could never cheat on a loved one. It isn’t in me to do that.
November 29th, 2005 at 3:42 am - IP Man-Hash: eadd56da2c7c9
Wow, that’s one depressed woman.
Still, I feel better knowing that the character assassination, the smears, the racism, the bigotry, the abuse, the cursing, and the violations of terms of service were for my own good.
I feel like a better person already.
And Female has promised no more “playing mind games”. Is that what they were?
Some mind. I guess it explains the lack of a female Einstein. Or Newton. Or da Vinci. Or Hawking. Or Leary. Or Fuller. Or Sagan. Or Turing. Or Copernicus. Or Darwin. Or any of the other mantastic thinkers.
November 29th, 2005 at 3:58 am - IP Man-Hash: d754ab99d7c00
You come off as fairly coherent, albiet very sad, actually. More so than you have in weeks. Some here do have anger or bitterness towards women; yes. I don’t believe I am one of them. I don’t believe most of us do. The opinions expressed on this website though are certainly controversial and even aggressive, and could be misinterpreted as angry or bitter, but they generally aren’t. Not to belabor a point, there is a reason for the “no women allowed”.
If someone from this site did try to send you a virus, that’s wrong. It is possible that it simply is a coincidence — we’d (everyone other than Dick) have to hack the site to get your IP/email, and I doubt anyone wishes to do that. I think it’s unlikely Dick did that. I’ll repeat my standard advice; use a software firewall (and consider a hardware one). If you are using windows, run McAfee or Norton or Grisoft (free) antivirus. Again, if windows, I recommend all 3 of Microsoft Antispyware, Lavasoft Adaware, and Spybot Search and Destroy. Run scans weekly and keep the active agents of Microsoft Antispyware and your anti-virus scanner running all the time.
You have a good mind, when you choose to use it. I sincerely believe that the drugs you are taking impair the functioning of that mind, and I ask you to think carefully about whether sobriety might not be better for you in the long run. I did indeed recognize when you switched from “taking the piss” some of the time to doing it all the time. Coupled with my feelings about what you’d previously written, the admission of drug use while you posted (to me that came off as “I’m so wonderful I can post while high and you can waste your time reading it”), I admit I came to hold you in a degree of contempt.
I would point out some of the incredibly harsh and vituperative things you’ve said on these boards, but I think you’re well aware of them, and that you’d agree you’ve said harsher things about men on these boards than I’ve ever said about you.
Indeed, one of the sadder things for me in dealing with you was to observe an intelligent mind repeatedly refusing to grapple with ideas. This isn’t the forum for it, to be sure, but elsewhere I might even have enjoyed watching you refine your own ideas and — even — persuading me I was mistaken in places. Unlikely, but not impossible.
You say you are not a whore and could never cheat on a loved one. I hope I’ve never called you one; if I have I apologize without reservation. But. Yes, there’s a “But.”. Your maintaining intimate contact [emotionally intimate] with a previous sexual partner is dangerous for you and him. Christians would say we are “born unto sin”. Hobbesian rationalists (to say nothing of Rousseau) would say that our nature can be “nasty and brutish”. Dawkins would say we’re genetic survival machines. Whatever the reason, theologians, philosophers and scientists have correctly observed that human behavior can be quite dishonorable and contemptible, especially with regard to fidelity. This past week, I had a previous girlfriend repeatedly phoning me asking to get together for lunch or dinner. Finally, I said sure… come around to the house, we’d love to see you. She demurred, and I informed her that the only way we were meeting was in the presence of my gf. Am I 99% sure I wouldn’t cheat? Yes. But I’m not 100%. And I’d be very disturbed if my gf was meeting past boyfriends of hers without me “in the loop”. It is not patently unreasonable for a man to view your self-described behavior with grave concern, as I do, and describe it harshly, as Mickey does. I again urge you to read his followup post. It’s sincere.
I will say this, and I hope you’ll take it the right way. I do regret one thing in my dealings with you, and it’s this (surprisingly perhaps): that I had too little patience early on, and too much patience later on. In one of my first replies to you, I was condescending, and treated you as a 12 year old. Your ideas were childish [global capitalism is the root of all pollution was the one that sticks in my mind], but they were childish ideas that are widely spouted. Perhaps I should have been more tolerant.
I am glad to hear you are going to stop posting (and that you enjoy Dick’s posts). I truly think this is better for you.
All the best (assuming you are sincere and holding to it),
-wolfe
November 29th, 2005 at 4:20 am - IP Man-Hash: b7795a2dc403c
I’m not depressed Big Al, I have had a truly amazing day. An epiphany, if you will!!! Thanks wolfe, beautiful post, I appreciate it. Best wishes, Julie.
November 29th, 2005 at 6:58 am - IP Man-Hash: 957564b4aff6d
Don’t forget to add Napoleon to your list of man-tastic thinkers, Big Al. =)
November 29th, 2005 at 7:07 am - IP Man-Hash: 957564b4aff6d
Wolfe,
It is a pleasure to read your posts. My vocabulary continues to expand. I had never seen the word ‘vituperative’ before. What a marvelous word!
November 29th, 2005 at 7:23 am - IP Man-Hash: 957564b4aff6d
Big Al,
I was also thinking that it’s a shame that Michaelangelo wasn’t included in your list of man-tastic thinkers. Though he may have a less than man-tastic name, he was a thinker on par with Da Vinci, to which we can add that he had a good sense of humor. While working on the Sistine Chapel he painted the face of one of his critics as a silly, donkey-faced demon. Though the man complained, the face remained.
November 29th, 2005 at 8:36 am - IP Man-Hash: d754ab99d7c00
Female: Thank you, Julie. Your response was gracious, and I’m delighted you had an epiphany; indeed, I’m envious. I wish you all the best. Take care. I’d sign with my real first name, but you would seriously think I was “taking the mickey” (if I’ve got the phrase right).
Big Al: I don’t agree with Leary assuming you mean Timothy. The rest? Certainly, and it’s an incisive point you raise. Why are there so many outstanding male thinkers and so few outstanding female ones? Sorry, the excuse of “repressive patriarchy” no longer cuts it; neither does “glass ceiling” for any man under 40. Personally I believe the reason is identical to why prisons are disproportionately populated by men as well. More on that another time.
Arielle: No to Napoleon for me, though I know he’s beloved by Dick. Also, on Michelangelo vs. Da Vinci, I tend to say no. Michelangelo was certainly a great artist. But I abide by CP Snow’s “The Two Cultures” [mid 20th C British writer]: the idea that there exists a culture of art and a culture of science, engineering: pure rationality. Da Vinci covered both: designing helicopters as well as painting the Mona Lisa. Michelangelo was simply a great artist, not a great thinker. I do appreciate the anecdote about his adversary being painted as a demon! I’d not heard that. If you disagree, I’d welcome hearing why you think that way.
Also Arielle: “It is a pleasure to read your posts. My vocabulary continues to expand.” I’m sad to say, I can’t promise to expand your vocabulary with every post! However, you are most kind, and I thank you. I enjoy a web site such as this. From my later teens on, I’ve been involved first with the military and then professional matters; more recently international business. In all three cases, communicating with a restricted and clear vocabulary is what’s needed. Being able to cut loose a bit [here] is refreshing. I must, in all honesty, give credit to my mother who encouraged both my interests in matters physical (hunting, shooting, skiing, running…) and mental (reading in particular) and spoke to us eloquently and expected the same from us. That is what a woman (and mother) should do. Few do, these days.
-wolfe.
November 29th, 2005 at 2:15 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7a7e5bdcbe78e
So, your Mommy and your sweet little Grandma are cheating whores as well? Sounds like you’ve got some Oedipal issues honey,Mommy didn’t love you enough?
Boys like you, (yeah, I mean boy.) should never get laid, and you probably don’t, from the lack of respect you show toward the fairer sex.
November 29th, 2005 at 2:46 pm - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
How dare you, madam. My mother is a saint.
-Dick
November 29th, 2005 at 2:54 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7a7e5bdcbe78e
To have raised you, she would have to have been.
November 29th, 2005 at 3:11 pm - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
Then what was your point in the first place? This is exactly why women are forbidden from this site. Endless yammering, no point.
-Dick
November 29th, 2005 at 3:24 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7a7e5bdcbe78e
My point was this, the title of this article was “Every Woman is a Cheating Whore”, which certainly would have included your Mother, after all she is too a woman.
No wonder you are so hateful towards women, your own Mother a cheating whore! It must have been horrbile growing up, your dear Mommy turning tricks whenever Daddy wasn’t looking. Tell me, how is therapy going?
November 29th, 2005 at 3:28 pm - IP Man-Hash: f3ae1ac46a2e3
Is my mother also so fat she uses ham sandwiches as salad dressing?
Who the hell cares what you think? You’re a woman.
-Dick
November 29th, 2005 at 3:34 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7a7e5bdcbe78e
I think I should tell your Mother about this bad ol’ website you have. Maybe a long over due spanking is in order.
November 29th, 2005 at 3:46 pm - IP Man-Hash: a11c28e7713fa
I hereby re-name Squirrelgirl as “Nut gobbler.”
Welcome to the site.
November 29th