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	<description>Are men better than women?   Yes.</description>
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		<title>By: Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/female-pioneers-in-aviation/#comment-197672</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who qualifies as a USN aviator doesn't deserve shit from random internet people. I exempt Dick from that, btw.

That said, were things eased for Lt. Hultgreen?

So it would seem, much though Secretary Cohen would like to have denied it.

She served honorably. She fucked up.

It happens. 

Unless you've at least been shot at in a war zone (I can cop to that), or better yet, served your country and been shot at, I'm not sure you really qualify to say much.

Look, I agree with a lot of what you gentlemen have to say. 

I despise and detest the push for "equality" in the USN.

I think that lead Lt. Kara Hultgreen to her death.

But ... making fun of her, that's assholic. Dick gets a pass. He's reporting facts. He doesn't get an infinite pass, but he gets one.

The rest? Leave it to making fun of other women.

-wolfe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who qualifies as a USN aviator doesn&#8217;t deserve shit from random internet people. I exempt Dick from that, btw.</p>
<p>That said, were things eased for Lt. Hultgreen?</p>
<p>So it would seem, much though Secretary Cohen would like to have denied it.</p>
<p>She served honorably. She fucked up.</p>
<p>It happens. </p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;ve at least been shot at in a war zone (I can cop to that), or better yet, served your country and been shot at, I&#8217;m not sure you really qualify to say much.</p>
<p>Look, I agree with a lot of what you gentlemen have to say. </p>
<p>I despise and detest the push for &#8220;equality&#8221; in the USN.</p>
<p>I think that lead Lt. Kara Hultgreen to her death.</p>
<p>But &#8230; making fun of her, that&#8217;s assholic. Dick gets a pass. He&#8217;s reporting facts. He doesn&#8217;t get an infinite pass, but he gets one.</p>
<p>The rest? Leave it to making fun of other women.</p>
<p>-wolfe</p>
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		<title>By: MansVoice</title>
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		<dc:creator>MansVoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-194855" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Andie said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

woman suck in bed? ARE YOU A HOMO? its okay im cool wit gay people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lying down and rating your man on how well he satisfies you without doing anything in return ... is proof of how women suck in bed.</description>
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<p>woman suck in bed? ARE YOU A HOMO? its okay im cool wit gay people.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lying down and rating your man on how well he satisfies you without doing anything in return &#8230; is proof of how women suck in bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Aguardiente</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aguardiente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Pull out” means the same thing on an aircraft carrier that it does in the bedroom.

Thanks Dick - Now I know what to write on my X-mas cards. Of course I'll quote you and your URL. That'll get some clingy females of my back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Pull out” means the same thing on an aircraft carrier that it does in the bedroom.</p>
<p>Thanks Dick - Now I know what to write on my X-mas cards. Of course I&#8217;ll quote you and your URL. That&#8217;ll get some clingy females of my back.</p>
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		<title>By: Andie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woman suck in bed? ARE YOU A HOMO? its okay im cool wit gay people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woman suck in bed? ARE YOU A HOMO? its okay im cool wit gay people.</p>
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		<title>By: Superman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on point as usual Dick. Look to decades of me saving Lois ass to see how these so called "people" practically waltz into danger. Then blame men of course. Why can't they let men do what we do and just keep their mouths shut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on point as usual Dick. Look to decades of me saving Lois ass to see how these so called &#8220;people&#8221; practically waltz into danger. Then blame men of course. Why can&#8217;t they let men do what we do and just keep their mouths shut?</p>
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		<title>By: Zardoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zardoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only when you're more concerned with the quality of the friendship rather than fitting into the much larger "in" crowd circle of friends. One of the best male role models in my life said to me as a youngster "if. you can't have good friends, you're better off not having any at all." Its seems to be a vastly bigger problem with women though. Bad friends as a man will lead you astray, out you in positions you'd rather not be in and indeed shouldn't be in. The worst will attempt to sly out with your female companion (which is as much her fault for not being faithful as it his for being an arsewipe). But you have to REALLY cross a fellow man to have him turn utterly spiteful/vindictive and undermine your entire life and credibility among your peers and the rest of society. Most women seem capable of this without batting an eyelid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only when you&#8217;re more concerned with the quality of the friendship rather than fitting into the much larger &#8220;in&#8221; crowd circle of friends. One of the best male role models in my life said to me as a youngster &#8220;if. you can&#8217;t have good friends, you&#8217;re better off not having any at all.&#8221; Its seems to be a vastly bigger problem with women though. Bad friends as a man will lead you astray, out you in positions you&#8217;d rather not be in and indeed shouldn&#8217;t be in. The worst will attempt to sly out with your female companion (which is as much her fault for not being faithful as it his for being an arsewipe). But you have to REALLY cross a fellow man to have him turn utterly spiteful/vindictive and undermine your entire life and credibility among your peers and the rest of society. Most women seem capable of this without batting an eyelid.</p>
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		<title>By: Clair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...yeah..sometimes ur lucky and u dont get friends like that tho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;yeah..sometimes ur lucky and u dont get friends like that tho</p>
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		<title>By: dazedandconfused</title>
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		<dc:creator>dazedandconfused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193794" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Clair said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Wait, I realised, girls have that to, except you look at her and go "...you bitch.."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But guys forget about it and move on, while girls then try and backstab and degrade behind their friends' back to try and get the man that they wanted. Big difference.

*D3C*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193794" title="View the original comment"><em>Clair said:</em></a><br />
Wait, I realised, girls have that to, except you look at her and go &#8220;&#8230;you bitch..&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>But guys forget about it and move on, while girls then try and backstab and degrade behind their friends&#8217; back to try and get the man that they wanted. Big difference.</p>
<p>*D3C*</p>
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		<title>By: Clair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193789" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Zardoz said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193774" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;dazedandconfused said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

"Funny cunt" is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.

*D3C*&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or what about when you manage to get the phone number and a date with the finest looking lass they've seen all year. Your mates look at ya with shitface grins and just say "you're a cunt.."
Its one of the biggest compliments there is, hehehe&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wait, I realised, girls have that to, except you look at her and go "...you bitch.."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193789" title="View the original comment"><em>Zardoz said:</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193774" title="View the original comment"><em>dazedandconfused said:</em></a></p>
<p>&#8220;Funny cunt&#8221; is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.</p>
<p>*D3C*</p></blockquote>
<p>Or what about when you manage to get the phone number and a date with the finest looking lass they&#8217;ve seen all year. Your mates look at ya with shitface grins and just say &#8220;you&#8217;re a cunt..&#8221;<br />
Its one of the biggest compliments there is, hehehe</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait, I realised, girls have that to, except you look at her and go &#8220;&#8230;you bitch..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...swearing is a real big part of us, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;swearing is a real big part of us, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Clair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
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		<title>By: Zardoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zardoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193774" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;dazedandconfused said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

"Funny cunt" is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.

*D3C*&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or what about when you manage to get the phone number and a date with the finest looking lass they've seen all year. Your mates look at ya with shitface grins and just say "you're a cunt.."
Its one of the biggest compliments there is, hehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193774" title="View the original comment"><em>dazedandconfused said:</em></a></p>
<p>&#8220;Funny cunt&#8221; is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.</p>
<p>*D3C*</p></blockquote>
<p>Or what about when you manage to get the phone number and a date with the finest looking lass they&#8217;ve seen all year. Your mates look at ya with shitface grins and just say &#8220;you&#8217;re a cunt..&#8221;<br />
Its one of the biggest compliments there is, hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193743" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lady XX said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

All of this truth. Every woman on here should realize they are responsible for their feelings.. I think some of them forget this simple fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Most women refuse to be responsible for anything.
Funny how they are so quick to tell a man he should be responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193743" title="View the original comment"><em>Lady XX said:</em></a></p>
<p>All of this truth. Every woman on here should realize they are responsible for their feelings.. I think some of them forget this simple fact.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most women refuse to be responsible for anything.<br />
Funny how they are so quick to tell a man he should be responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Clair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193774" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;dazedandconfused said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

"Funny cunt" is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.

*D3C*&lt;/blockquote&gt;

hehe..where u reading the thingy i had with i think it was geeza...coz that kinda came up.

or was that completely unrelated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193774" title="View the original comment"><em>dazedandconfused said:</em></a></p>
<p>&#8220;Funny cunt&#8221; is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.</p>
<p>*D3C*</p></blockquote>
<p>hehe..where u reading the thingy i had with i think it was geeza&#8230;coz that kinda came up.</p>
<p>or was that completely unrelated?</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193749" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;see said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Hey, Dick said NOT for them to punch us in the face, because that is all we have.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How bout a kunt punch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193749" title="View the original comment"><em>see said:</em></a></p>
<p>Hey, Dick said NOT for them to punch us in the face, because that is all we have.</p></blockquote>
<p>How bout a kunt punch?</p>
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		<title>By: Some Dumb Bitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Dumb Bitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred Noonan.</description>
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		<title>By: dazedandconfused</title>
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		<dc:creator>dazedandconfused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Funny cunt" is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.

*D3C*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Funny cunt&#8221; is a typical slang term in Aus. It refers to someone who is extremely funny, and is not derogatory at all.</p>
<p>*D3C*</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193743" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lady XX said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193733" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rufus said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I recently (very recently) posted this comment in a forum here but I think it may apply here as well . . .

All of the women (and all ages apply) that log on to this site are 100% responsible for their own 'feelings'. Shit, even if they don't log on to this site they're still 100% responsible for their feelings. Men do not have to 'sugar-coat' the TRUTH when speaking amongst each other. And we do not need to speak as if a lady is present in a MAN-ONLY-ZONE! You know . . . like a mens restroom or a website that cleary states NO WOMEN ALLOWED. 

Women, 

When we call you things like a cheating whore, a fucking slut or even a CUNT, try to remember that just because we say it - that doesn't make it true. It's your complete lack of morals, integrity &#38; anything good that earns you those titles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All of this truth. Every woman on here should realize they are responsible for their feelings.. I think some of them forget this simple fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think most women 'choose' not to be responsible for their own feelings. Accepting that responsibility might lead them in the direction of some self-control and we all know what comes after that . . . accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193743" title="View the original comment"><em>Lady XX said:</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193733" title="View the original comment"><em>Rufus said:</em></a></p>
<p>I recently (very recently) posted this comment in a forum here but I think it may apply here as well . . .</p>
<p>All of the women (and all ages apply) that log on to this site are 100% responsible for their own &#8216;feelings&#8217;. Shit, even if they don&#8217;t log on to this site they&#8217;re still 100% responsible for their feelings. Men do not have to &#8217;sugar-coat&#8217; the TRUTH when speaking amongst each other. And we do not need to speak as if a lady is present in a MAN-ONLY-ZONE! You know . . . like a mens restroom or a website that cleary states NO WOMEN ALLOWED. </p>
<p>Women, </p>
<p>When we call you things like a cheating whore, a fucking slut or even a CUNT, try to remember that just because we say it - that doesn&#8217;t make it true. It&#8217;s your complete lack of morals, integrity &amp; anything good that earns you those titles.</p></blockquote>
<p>All of this truth. Every woman on here should realize they are responsible for their feelings.. I think some of them forget this simple fact.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think most women &#8216;choose&#8217; not to be responsible for their own feelings. Accepting that responsibility might lead them in the direction of some self-control and we all know what comes after that . . . accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: see</title>
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		<dc:creator>see</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for them NOT to</description>
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		<title>By: see</title>
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		<dc:creator>see</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-193676" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hilary said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

If they call all women whores, say to punch a woman in her face when she is acting dumb, that we are idiots, scum of the earth......
I am thinking that there is hate in that, even on the computer.
Not all men on this site hate women to the extreme, to my surprise some woman married some of you, but you don't respect us.
Proudathiest is right, some things the men on this site have called me, I've never been called in my life, and they are grown adults! 
Bot children on the schoolyard.
So yes, several men on this site would rather live without knowing a woman, but she does not mean all, just a few.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, Dick said NOT for them to punch us in the face, because that is all we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-193676" title="View the original comment"><em>Hilary said:</em></a></p>
<p>If they call all women whores, say to punch a woman in her face when she is acting dumb, that we are idiots, scum of the earth&#8230;&#8230;<br />
I am thinking that there is hate in that, even on the computer.<br />
Not all men on this site hate women to the extreme, to my surprise some woman married some of you, but you don&#8217;t respect us.<br />
Proudathiest is right, some things the men on this site have called me, I&#8217;ve never been called in my life, and they are grown adults!<br />
Bot children on the schoolyard.<br />
So yes, several men on this site would rather live without knowing a woman, but she does not mean all, just a few.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, Dick said NOT for them to punch us in the face, because that is all we have.</p>
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