The F Word
The F word today is Feminism — not fuck like it is usually.
It seems that on the topic of men being better than women eventually the topic of feminism should be covered.
Although I don’t really see why.
Since no one gives a shit about it.
Instead of summing up The Feminism, Feminists, or the Feminist Movement in any way shape or form, I’m just going to let the experts do it for you.
Point your browser over to feministing.com, a harem of horn trumpeting and the slandering of nonsense the likes of which I have never seen before. It’s as if someone has hot-boxed horseshit hysteria. Remember that one short-lived game on American Gladiator, where the contestants and the gladiators would bounce from platforms on bungee cords, with a frantic and desperate mania, to stick Velcro balls to a suspended pole in the middle of an arena? Of course you remember it you’re a man and every episode of that show was man-tasticly great. Feministing.com is a lot like that game. Except instead of contenders, gladiators, and balls; there are only women and their lust for getting outraged as quickly and as often as possible about absolutely any news story that has to do with men, women, or gender. The frantic and desperate mania is quite the same.
Since only men are allowed to read this, I can guarantee what the first thing that catches your eyes on that page will be, and that is the giant picture of the braless woman on the right hand column of the page with her nipples sticking through her shirt.
Let me repeat that.
With her braless nipples sticking through her shirt.
Interesting.
That’s a very interesting thing to see on a site whose sole purpose is to counter that exact kind of female empowerment (read exploitation). It’s so interesting that one might even call it not interesting at all, typical, and complete bullshit hypocrisy.
Far be it from me to tell someone how to run a business — which feminism definitely is, just as much as is Nike Jogging Wear for women. The picture is an ad to sell T-shirts. That’s fine. Everyone knows attractive women sell the goods as well as their goods (while still not being as good as men at doing so). Women see that ad and immediately lust for her braless attention like rabid wolves, frothing at the mouth for their chance to casually tread the line between “taken seriously” and “woops”.
Put your hard helmets on, ladies. Your integrity is dropping like flies as Girl Power strikes again.
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I cannot speak for women as a whole but I know on a personal level that I love and admire a man who has his sense of pride and honour… that is one of many reasons why I always admired my own father, and more recently, my boyfriend, who has a very firm sense of honour and integrity. I would suggest that honour is a concept somewhat lost in our civilisation today…don’t you think?
The worst sin and primary ambition of feminism is stumping on man’s pride and honour. Women have no understanding or conception of this.
‘Tis why those proud men sang ‘Deutschland über alles’ on the deck of the Bismarck as she went down.
Women view this, and I’m paraphrasing a former high school teacher of mine here, as naive foolishness or downright shameful because of Germany’s more lowly deeds in WW second. What the hell has dying for one’s homeland and taking pride in it got to do with her ill doings?! Telling of the nature of women and feminism, nay?
I’ve always felt that’s more due to carelessness on Herbert’s part though — i.e. not showing us the rest of society.
-wolfe
@abaddon & wolfe
Well done abaddon. I’d been subliminally aware of those factors without ever clarifying the thinking.
One thing to consider is that the power groupings in the Dune universe actually consist of relatively few people. It’s an anarchic feudal culture with a large majority of the population living as something of an underclass. It even extends to slavery being quite a legitimate practice among the ruling classes.
@gwallan I can agree with that description. It didn’t shine through to me in what you wrote earlier. Perhaps I misread.
@abaddon Fascinating view. I must admit I saw most of what you say, but I never thought of applying it to society as a whole. I don’t think that was Herbert’s intent — I think he was intending to show how crippled organizations that split themselves off from society can become — but part of literary interpretation is in the eye of the beholder.
And thus you’re dead right. What you say is true. Thanks for an insight.
Best,
-wolfe
I find quite a few obvious points that Frank Herbert made in Dune. The extremism of the Bene Theilax and the Bene Gesserit struck me the most though. It was as if Herbert forsaw what would happen if the sexes seperated completely and the results of said process over a period of centuries/millenia. One side of it, the women, look at love as an enemy and sex as simply a means to an end, the other look at women with absolute disgust and simply use them as biological containers for experiments and breeding.
Both are disgusting in my view. The Bene Gesserit simply view Men as studs for their “breeding” program, at first for the Kwatz Heiderach, and after that to try to “breed” humanity into its evolution. This is fast becoming a tenant of modern-day feminism in my view, and is simply eugenics. Whether its good or bad I have no idea, however I find it highly disturbing. We might just breed ourselves out of existence.
-Strength and Honor-
@BIZ
’s cool. There’s too much good literature in the world to confine yourself to one thing anyway.
@wolfe
Not a parallel as such. There are nasty bastards in the world who are quite happy to use whatever levers are available to control others. To use the beliefs of people, religious or otherwise, to manipulate them is evil in my mind. The belief system itself is not necessarily wrong and, in fact, often leads individuals to do magnificent things.
@Biz It’s also typically available at used bookstores… unless there isn’t one of those around either which there may well not be if you’re really in the middle of nowhere. I once bought a copy for the princely sum of $0.10. Tattered, to be sure, but quite readable. Or get online and order from Amazon.
@Gwallan Yep, I largely agree with your social take on it (re:feminism). I didn’t when I first read it. Experience in life and the world has changed my views, just as yours have changed. I don’t fully agree with your drawing the parallel with religion, but neither do I say it’s wrong. It’s true at times and in places.
Even though it seems off-topic, I agree, it’s quite on-point.
-wolfe
@gwallan
I live out in the middle of nowhere. I don’t visit the local library because it is small and mainly stocked with romance books. ‘Nuff said.
They don’t even order books in here. I’d have a better chance of downloading it, which I may; I’ll let you know anytime I acquire it and read it.
@BIZ
Maybe you don’t give yourself enough credit.
Check your local library.
Good point gwallan, even if you do give me too much credit. If I had a copy I would. Not as though I’d likely agree with the aforementioned political stuff, but who knows.
Peace.
@BIZ
Maybe you should read it again. You are older and wiser now so some of the political stuff I mentioned may make more sense to you.
sonyad made me laugh… Yes, I completely agree with his sentiments regarding Duncan and Leto. Particularly Leto. Still, it wasn’t a bad read.
Duncan Idaho, the recursive moron.
Mister Duncan’s avatars are a bit of a cliche. In fact, they annoy the hell out of me. Someone needs to cap that guy for good!
And mister Leto, he annoyed me to no end as well. Presumptuous conceited little prick. Jumps off towers, doesn’t die. Sees the future, can’t be killed. You manage to swamp the bastard, he saw it coming and obliged. No way to get the upper hand on the fucker! Grrr…
That army only existed in that one book. In the subsequent books they were reduced to a very ineffectual state. Even the Bene Geserit, an exclusively female movement, used predominantly male armies.
Correct. Duncan Idaho. He is actually the only character who appears through the entire series of six(soon to be seven) books. He was a ghola - a clone who could have the memories of the original person incorporated.
Correct. Collective noun Bene Tleilax.
Herbert’s and Orwell’s references to female susceptibilty to manipulation, religion and strict adherence to group ideology are of relevance in a thread about feminism. Feminism, particularly today, functions very much as a religion. And a strictly authoritarian one at that.
An army of women is about as deplorably innocuous as you can get. Woe to their foolish employer.
*I’m pretty sure it was the Tleilaxu, not the Teilaxu.
Could be wrong though.
Peace.
Thanks for the welcome gwallan; as for ‘Mister Clone’ sonyad referred to, I think that was Idaho. Not sure since it’s been almost a decade and I was a twelve-year-old a the time.
*If I’m using lower case for people’s names it’s because I have the impression that is how they prefer their names typed. Not some childish little-words insult of sorts.
Or indeed, as alien to me as they are from one another. Brian*