The F Word

The F word today is Feminism — not fuck like it is usually.

It seems that on the topic of men being better than women eventually the topic of feminism should be covered.

Although I don’t really see why.

Since no one gives a shit about it.

Instead of summing up The Feminism, Feminists, or the Feminist Movement in any way shape or form, I’m just going to let the experts do it for you.

Point your browser over to feministing.com, a harem of horn trumpeting and the slandering of nonsense the likes of which I have never seen before. It’s as if someone has hot-boxed horseshit hysteria. Remember that one short-lived game on American Gladiator, where the contestants and the gladiators would bounce from platforms on bungee cords, with a frantic and desperate mania, to stick Velcro balls to a suspended pole in the middle of an arena? Of course you remember it you’re a man and every episode of that show was man-tasticly great. Feministing.com is a lot like that game. Except instead of contenders, gladiators, and balls; there are only women and their lust for getting outraged as quickly and as often as possible about absolutely any news story that has to do with men, women, or gender. The frantic and desperate mania is quite the same.

Since only men are allowed to read this, I can guarantee what the first thing that catches your eyes on that page will be, and that is the giant picture of the braless woman on the right hand column of the page with her nipples sticking through her shirt.

Let me repeat that.

With her braless nipples sticking through her shirt.

Interesting.

That’s a very interesting thing to see on a site whose sole purpose is to counter that exact kind of female empowerment (read exploitation). It’s so interesting that one might even call it not interesting at all, typical, and complete bullshit hypocrisy.

Far be it from me to tell someone how to run a business — which feminism definitely is, just as much as is Nike Jogging Wear for women. The picture is an ad to sell T-shirts. That’s fine. Everyone knows attractive women sell the goods as well as their goods (while still not being as good as men at doing so). Women see that ad and immediately lust for her braless attention like rabid wolves, frothing at the mouth for their chance to casually tread the line between “taken seriously” and “woops”.

Put your hard helmets on, ladies. Your integrity is dropping like flies as Girl Power strikes again.

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Comment by Clair
2007-12-07 01:27:57 - IP Man-Hash: f68191fe56ea6

Doubt Fish said:

Thank you for explaining your behavior. It is difficult to talk nicely if the other is talking in a demeaning, or just merely empathetic way.

Are you talking to me or someone else?

 
Comment by Clair
2007-12-07 01:27:08 - IP Man-Hash: f68191fe56ea6

Doubt Fish said:

Clair, what the fuck? All men are better than all women? No, you’re missing the point of Dick’s writings entirely, girly-girl. I don’t need to tell you, I and all of the men - conveniently enough, know in our unholy quest to discover why we should not all rot in hell for embracing our sexuality.
Girly, just fuck off - you’re just pissing a lot of people off here.

Look. You’re being very mean, and I don’t know what your talking about with the “all men are better then all women” or the bit about sexuality. And yes, I know, I don’t understand what Dick’s writing is about, but trust me I’m trying.

 
Comment by Doubt Fish
2007-12-07 01:26:59 - IP Man-Hash: 60c984a618a05

Thank you for explaining your behavior. It is difficult to talk nicely if the other is talking in a demeaning, or just merely empathetic way.

 
Comment by Clair
2007-12-07 01:24:08 - IP Man-Hash: f68191fe56ea6

That, and I actully understand why you are all against feminism. Coz I was talking to..I don’t know if they would want me saying that they talked to me :P But anyway, the person/s I was talking to explained it really nicely. And now..I’m kinda re-thinking stuff..so yeh.

 
Comment by Doubt Fish
2007-12-07 01:21:53 - IP Man-Hash: 60c984a618a05

Clair, what the fuck? All men are better than all women? No, you’re missing the point of Dick’s writings entirely, girly-girl. I don’t need to tell you, I and all of the men - conveniently enough, know in our unholy quest to discover why we should not all rot in hell for embracing our sexuality.
Girly, just fuck off - you’re just pissing a lot of people off here.

 
Comment by BrokenJohnny
2007-12-07 01:20:25 - IP Man-Hash: 904f55006453f

Sophia said:

Seems feministing.com really benefited from your shout out. Their counter probably shot up. They have some really great advertisements on their page! They must be raking it in (hence, doing something right and wisely so). Let’s be frank and objective here, their site has ad spaces sold to major movie studios, authors, fashion lines, large companies, FORD! That’s big potatoes compared to this site which just sells ad space to itself. It’s more intelligent to speak in a voice that will want big money companies to align with you. After all, didn’t you (Dick) say that’s what you were in Dr. Phil for? To sell your book and promote yourself (i.e. to make more money)?

Seems Feminism sells more than misogyny.

Ah, so you admit the rhetoric and saber rattling of feministing.com is merely a clever marketing ploy directed at women.

I’m glad I didn’t have to point that out to you.

You incorrectly label us a misogynists. We do not hate women. On the contrary, we are men, and love women. What we hate, is their bullshit. What we will not tolerate, is their bullshit. It has nothing to do with hating an entire gender. It has everything to do with hating the trends we see of abused feminist power, manipulation, and deception.

What you fail to realize is that this site employs men-only means of conveyance for those facts, meaning, only men will be able to properly read between the lines. When women come here, they see hatred and misogyny, when nothing could be further from the truth.

Now, off topic, I’d like to address this statement:

Art is subjective. Not everyone will love a piece. Art serves no real purpose but to move the soul and to record the growth of mankind. So, no, I don;t have to get it or love it. Just as much as you don’t have to get or love me.

Art serves a very important purpose, neither of which you have realized. Art is a means of communication. A true artist can spread a thought or idea father than any words ever can. Art can reach all peoples, all languages, and across time it’s self.

And art is also not subjective, as many people think. Some of us deep in the art community have learned of a static metaphorical language which all art follows, and has always followed. We have learned how to tell whether or not an artist knew what he was painting when he painted it. All colors have corresponding meanings, as do shapes, and images. As everything we put ourselves to becomes a microcosm of the human condition, the expression thereof instinctively follows said patterns, whether we intend it to or not.

To say art is subjective is to say truth is subjective. Again, something that many people believe. But the philosophical definition of truth it’s self is a static one. Something which cannot be invented if it is to exist, for inventing it negates it’s very function.

 
Comment by Doubt Fish
2007-12-07 01:19:49 - IP Man-Hash: 60c984a618a05

Sophia said:
That said, please address how I have specifically attacked the “audience.”

You’re too stupid to know why it is that you are pissing everybody off and everyone is telling you to leave?
If DM wanted to push buttons, he’d be happy to keep you here.
DO YOU NOTICE THE FACT THAT HE TELLS YOU TO FUCK OFF?
Are you that fucking stupid that you can not comprehend exactly what is laid out before your stupid, cum-slurping face if it is not what you want to hear? Fuck, you’re just like any slutty girly-girl.
What’s wrong, girly, are you just not used to not being welcome somewhere? You think you’re all that and can just walk all over us because you have tits? Fuck you, you’re a stupid little slut and you need to just fuck off - see, you make people angry and you make a lot of people not like you - like that! It doesn’t take any effort whatsoever to make people angry at you, but then that just gets you fired if you can’t sue them for, like, not respecting your period and thong as a womyn.
Fuck off, girly-girl. Just fuck off.

 
Comment by Clair
2007-12-07 01:17:26 - IP Man-Hash: f68191fe56ea6

MansVoice said:

Chauvinism simply states that MABTW. It doesnt promote “hatred” against -women but go on and screw with the definitions. Unlike feminism, it doesnt guise its true intent with sophistry and philosophical language.

chau·vin·ism /ˈʃoʊvəˌnɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shoh-vuh-niz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. zealous and aggressive patriotism or blind enthusiasm for military glory.
2. biased devotion to any group, attitude, or cause.

then you have male chauvinism-

male chauvinist
n. A man whose behavior and attitude toward women indicate a belief that they are innately inferior to men.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Chauvinism

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=male%20chauvinism

I done alota thinking (yes, yes, insert joke here). This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, if practiced with compassion, I guess.

Now I don’t agree with it. I truly believe you should treat everyone equally, and according to how they wished to be treated. Some girls melt for a guy that opens the door for them or pulls out there seat, another will scream bloody murder. And, just because I don’t agree with it, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t at least respect it on a level - note that level. I now know (or at least I think I do) why you all believe men are better then women. Yet again, I don’t agree, just wanted to state that firmly.

I’m gonna be upfront, I think saying or believing that is just plain immature. It reminds me of first grade when you say”NUH UH!! BOYS SMELL” and “GIRLS ARE STUPID, NER NER NER NER NER!!”. And I don’t condone thinking like this, AT ALL. But if you think like this at least carry it out in a decent fashion. This site isn’t very decent… but I’m assuming in real life you all behave much differently, and aren’t as mean…hopefully.

This post didn’t really have a point…I just wanted to say that.

 
Comment by Sophia
2007-12-07 01:03:28 - IP Man-Hash: 463ef770b32fd

Ahhh, DF, gotta love a guy who uses the term “girly-girl” as part of his vernacular. And proudly.

“It is only in developed countries that the illogical field of feminism has spread” - DF

So it is undeveloped countries that still cling to this antiquated system? This would reflect then that chauvinism is a backwards idea and perhaps this is why they are NOT developed.

DF, what would you like me to provide “real evidence” for? How am I poorly spoken (despite the lack of hyphens and terms like boyey-boy)? Do you perceive me as regarding responses as victory? I feel I have not received one yet. Just non-sequitor comments.

I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy I see. How are my statements hypocritical?

What am I boasting?

“Illusions of superiority, without any real evidence to back them”

In what ways do you believe I judge myself as “superior’? (Be careful, I just may be….)

Yes, I see many of Dick’s statements are meant just to push buttons. A lot of comments I make (mostly in parenthesis) are for the same reason. I recognize all may not appreciate my art, so to speak.

Art is subjective. Not everyone will love a piece. Art serves no real purpose but to move the soul and to record the growth of mankind. So, no, I don;t have to get it or love it. Just as much as you don’t have to get or love me.

That said, please address how I have specifically attacked the “audience.”

 
Comment by Doubt Fish
2007-12-07 00:52:58 - IP Man-Hash: 60c984a618a05

This little girly-girl is all over, isn’t she? She can’t even stop to think before she starts to type!
You are wrong. Let’s add one to the wrong board:
Times Sophia has been wrong: 1
And then another for your last post:
2
And a little comment here for you:
-Does not understand literary language
-Feels entitled; classic, dull girly-girl
-If she does not get it, it must be stupid anyways; no appreciation for the arts.

That should be good for now. Anyways, in a world view, chauvinism is highly popular. It is only in developed countries that the illogical field of feminism has spread without probing and direct cultural intervention/hijacking.
See, you’re wrong again.
Let’s look at your debating strategy:
-Often proven incorrect
-Failure to admit mistakes
-Unlikeable
-Attacks her target audience
-Illusions of superiority, without any real evidence to back them
-No real evidence in general to back her claims
-Sees any form of response as a victory, regardless of how stupid she ends up making herself and girly-girls in general
-Poorly spoken
-Immature
-Frequently contradicts herself; hypocritical
-Boastful, with nothing really to boast about

Hopefully you can spend a year or two playing the wonderful game of catch-up and then perhaps you will have some degree of understanding for adult things.

 
Comment by Sophia
2007-12-07 00:39:39 - IP Man-Hash: 463ef770b32fd

Manny, the bottom line of my post is this. Nation wide, it is quite evident that there is more money behind the notion of “feminism” than there is the notion of “chauvinism.” Chauvinism simply does not sell. Why? Occam’s razor…it’s a highly UNPOPULAR stance. The people have spoken….

 
Comment by Sophia
2007-12-07 00:37:26 - IP Man-Hash: 463ef770b32fd

Perhaps you should open up a book and read some definitions. These are not my definitions but those of third parties. You are not pleased with this seeming “slanted” definition yet you give your own very slanted definition of feminism.

“Feminism: The view, articulated in the 19th century, that women are inherently equal to men and deserve equal rights and opportunities.”

Chauvinism exists “especially when the partisanship includes malice and hatred towards a rival group.” This means when malice towards one group (women) is expressed, then it is unquestionably chauvinism. Can you really say that there is no malice towards women expressed here?

This definition is pulled from the same source as the previous definitions. This is the real definition of both terms. The term you are reaching for, I believe is “misandry.” Look it up.

 
Comment by MansVoice
2007-12-07 00:28:04 - IP Man-Hash: 6d589b37beaa5

Chauvinism simply states that MABTW. It doesnt promote “hatred” against women but go on and screw with the definitions. Unlike feminism, it doesnt guise its true intent with sophistry and philosophical language.

 
Comment by Sophia
2007-12-07 00:13:44 - IP Man-Hash: 463ef770b32fd

MansVoice said:

Ms Human said:

Women have invented and created many things also and we have allready covered this! I know you like to go over and over things for no reason however like it or not women are smart and do some kick ass things.

Dont make me laugh my ass off. Wait, I did. HAHAHAHAHA.

Ms Human said:
I am equal- you are not - only because of your inability to recognise fact from fiction - and the fact that you cannot keep your anger under controll and it is really sad.

Sorry sweetcheeks, I do NOT recognise you as an equal.

Ms Human said:
Nobody I know of will be joining you because they recognise the great benifits of a society run by both men and women.

Bullshit.

Ms Human said:
Your all just a tad sad!!!! that is TRUE!

And talking to a bunch of “sad” men makes you “great”? Touche.

Sophia said:

Seems Feminism sells more than misogyny.

Read Dick’s “Is this Hate speech”? Chauvinism isnt the same as misogyny. Get a brain but woops, you are a WOMAN.

“Fascism has no place in a free society nor in the free exchange of ideas.” -Dick

Manny,

As defined:

“Chauvinism is extreme and unreasoning partisanship on behalf of a group to which one belongs, especially when the partisanship includes malice and hatred towards a rival group.”

“Misogyny is hatred or strong prejudice against women.”

Therefore, since chauvinism is partisanship on behalf of a group (men), especially when this partisanship includes malice and hatred towards a rival group (women) it is in fact, the very definition of misogyny! In fact, the two are often linked as synonyms.

Are you, perhaps, referring to the more obscure appliance of the term towards jingoism and politics? I believe the “male” prefix is understood in this site but I will remember to be more crystal clear with you.

By the way, I would like to refer to Dick’s semi-mentally ill remark. Yes, one can be semi-mentally ill. This is why we have “early detection,” “moderate depression” as opposed to “severe depression,” depression tests, anxiety tests, etc. It is not just black/white in the field of mental health. That would just be to easy. Check out the DSM IV.

MansVoice said:

Ms Human said:

Women have invented and created many things also and we have allready covered this! I know you like to go over and over things for no reason however like it or not women are smart and do some kick ass things.

Dont make me laugh my ass off. Wait, I did. HAHAHAHAHA.

Ms Human said:
I am equal- you are not - only because of your inability to recognise fact from fiction - and the fact that you cannot keep your anger under controll and it is really sad.

Sorry sweetcheeks, I do NOT recognise you as an equal.

Ms Human said:
Nobody I know of will be joining you because they recognise the great benifits of a society run by both men and women.

Bullshit.

Ms Human said:
Your all just a tad sad!!!! that is TRUE!

And talking to a bunch of “sad” men makes you “great”? Touche.

Sophia said:

Seems Feminism sells more than misogyny.

Read Dick’s “Is this Hate speech”? Chauvinism isnt the same as misogyny. Get a brain but woops, you are a WOMAN.

 
Comment by MansVoice
2007-12-06 22:36:03 - IP Man-Hash: 1ac5c1024cd8f

Ms Human said:

Women have invented and created many things also and we have allready covered this! I know you like to go over and over things for no reason however like it or not women are smart and do some kick ass things.

Dont make me laugh my ass off. Wait, I did. HAHAHAHAHA.

Ms Human said:
I am equal- you are not - only because of your inability to recognise fact from fiction - and the fact that you cannot keep your anger under controll and it is really sad.

Sorry sweetcheeks, I do NOT recognise you as an equal.

Ms Human said:
Nobody I know of will be joining you because they recognise the great benifits of a society run by both men and women.

Bullshit.

Ms Human said:
Your all just a tad sad!!!! that is TRUE!

And talking to a bunch of “sad” men makes you “great”? Touche.

Sophia said:

Seems Feminism sells more than misogyny.

Read Dick’s “Is this Hate speech”? Chauvinism isnt the same as misogyny. Get a brain but woops, you are a WOMAN.

 
Comment by Ms Human
2007-12-06 22:33:43 - IP Man-Hash: e26ca77fcef8d

Sophia said:

Seems feministing.com really benefited from your shout out. Their counter probably shot up. They have some really great advertisements on their page! They must be raking it in (hence, doing something right and wisely so). Let’s be frank and objective here, their site has ad spaces sold to major movie studios, authors, fashion lines, large companies, FORD! That’s big potatoes compared to this site which just sells ad space to itself. It’s more intelligent to speak in a voice that will want big money companies to align with you. After all, didn’t you (Dick) say that’s what you were in Dr. Phil for? To sell your book and promote yourself (i.e. to make more money)?

Seems Feminism sells more than misogyny.

That is true- funny that!
Probably because they promote equality for women - not ranting and raving incoherant babble and Hatred for the oppisite sex like this site.

 
Comment by Sophia
2007-12-06 21:03:28 - IP Man-Hash: 463ef770b32fd

Seems feministing.com really benefited from your shout out. Their counter probably shot up. They have some really great advertisements on their page! They must be raking it in (hence, doing something right and wisely so). Let’s be frank and objective here, their site has ad spaces sold to major movie studios, authors, fashion lines, large companies, FORD! That’s big potatoes compared to this site which just sells ad space to itself. It’s more intelligent to speak in a voice that will want big money companies to align with you. After all, didn’t you (Dick) say that’s what you were in Dr. Phil for? To sell your book and promote yourself (i.e. to make more money)?

Seems Feminism sells more than misogyny.

 
Comment by Ms Human
2007-12-06 05:49:02 - IP Man-Hash: e26ca77fcef8d

King Wang said:

Ok, how is cut and paste fucking “cool” with facts? At least a man would hand type the shit………..(wait, I see that typo now..)

Let’s do the basic back history to tear this one up.

Men created civilisation. Men created spell-check. Men created diesel powered vibrators and now you claim that biased men created an IQ test to accurately tell how smart other people are.

Ok, the problem is, obviously the IQ test IS gender biased, as it was never intended for you anyway. Duh. The Standard test wasn’t built for you or women anyway, look at the time it was devised and the culture it was devised in………..Score One, Kitty Carlisle.

Part 2 revolves around the fact that the test WAS built by men with GIANT man-brains (and probably a hard on or 3). So, what was your point?

PLEASE TELL ME YOU ACTUALLY HAD A POINT.

Amazing to me is that you still puke up the “equality” bullshit. Did it never cross your mind that you were equal BEFORE your right to vote? I am assuming you lack the basic skills to figure that out. If you think all men beat women before womens’ rights, you are stupid of course. Men don’t beat dogs for shitting on the floor, they clean it up and train them to not do that anymore. So how would they treat a woman prior to voting status differently? You don’t fuck up an investment because it went bad a few times, you worked with and around it for the kick-ass end result……..

No, feminazi’s are under the impression they were never equal, and that true women didn’t excel at stuff men did not, which women did in THEIR areas that men didn’t participate in. But of course, you don’t WANT to be equal, you want to be MORE than equal just for existing.

Women at one time took pride in many things, and did many things that were instrumental to world domination and economy. The problem is, somewhere along the line they found out that their vaginas are used for sex when men wanted it, not ONLY when they wanted it. They then wanted to charge a higher price and “be heard” for their views, which were laughable at best. (Please note those women never really did much besides sit by and use their hubbies money for that right)

The poor and oppressed women were happy to be not poor and opressed, but an integral part, and if you don’t think men appreciated it you lazy moron, then you are exactly what men on here think you are.

I would take my hat off, and bend a knee to the women of yesteryear that helped paved the way to modern civilisation who realised that by working within the system they got EXACTLY what they wanted, while you simply sit back and demand because you exist and bleed once a month. Women of these eras WORKED hard, and accomplished much, and not like you making a paycheck and being a “single” mom because you are stupid…………

Again, simply amazing that you understand SO little of reality and history.
These women were NOT unrecognized, and I cannot stomach that bullshit. Being stupid simply because you can be is no excuse for a woman.

Those are the women that did their part, Rosy the Riveter, etc., that pushed our country to become great by DOING, not by talking (a huge point no woman has ever addressed on here). That stood by, behind and side by side working THEIR asses off to make sure the men of the day created things that we still marvel at. They were happy, as the men were, to live a life that they did. These people created westward expansion among other things so you can sit here and bitch about your pussy hurting you and those fucking bastard men.

So again, feel free to skip over every point I made that is real, factual, valid and amongst other things, TRUE.

Winning isn’t easy, that is why you never win………..

I didn’t cut and paste anything- I was putting forth 1 example of where my veiws stemmed from. ONE! The example was how the IQ test is bias not only for women - for minorities (men ) as well.

Women have invented and created many things also and we have allready covered this! I know you like to go over and over things for no reason however like it or not women are smart and do some kick ass things.

How can you believe any body ia equal if they are not heard and do not have the vote- are you really that unintelligent! If we take the vote off of you will that make you equal- NO. So stop regurgitating Warren Farrells (or whatever his names) bull!!!!

I am equal- you are not - only because of your inability to recognise fact from fiction - and the fact that you cannot keep your anger under controll and it is really sad.

Being stupid just because you can be is no excuse for any body - you included!!! I can’t help it if you belong in the dark ages- I don’t mind if you go back there. Feel free. Nobody I know of will be joining you because they recognise the great benifits of a society run by both men and women.
I am not a single mother- I am married -although I’m not sure what you have against them any way - you seem to have a real issue with it. Something you might want to look into.
How would you know who was happy doing what. The men on here sook about how hard they have it boo hoo- you don’t have a clue about doing it hard. Especially you king wang (pun intended).
Your all just a tad sad!!!! that is TRUE!

 
Comment by Hilary
2007-12-05 14:02:11 - IP Man-Hash: e24370fe2bb3c

MansVoice said:

Hilary said:

Hilary said:

What do men do now, note that I did not say what have they done in the past, I want to know what they’ve done that is better than any woman.

Shit, there are entire lists dedicated to that.

Well, as I have asked time after time, what are some of the things, because what I’ve seen so far are things that men have done in the past, not in at least the past several decades

Hilary said:

Many people, including men, have joined feminism.

There are increasing numbers of men and women who are joining our side of the camp too. Again, Alex noted an increase in the site’s number of female supporters.

Hilary said:

Realize that we are proving that we are able to develop a good, and in many times great life, without the help of men and their money, have many topics have said.

This makes no sense.

 
Comment by MansVoice
2007-12-04 21:48:10 - IP Man-Hash: 1ac5c1024cd8f

King Wang said:But trust me, I will help you build that country called Feminism, and when that last fucking brick is laid, I will walk away and let YOU defend it by yourself shithead, right up until you end up in the ditch you so desperately and evidently want to end up in, without ME of course. The good news is for that first 10 minutes it will be great, the last 20 will really suck.

Fucking manly. Yeah, if all you feminists so desperately wish to build Femland, sure… Just tell us which islands you want and we will even fly you over.

 
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