The F Word
The F word today is Feminism — not fuck like it is usually.
It seems that on the topic of men being better than women eventually the topic of feminism should be covered.
Although I don’t really see why.
Since no one gives a shit about it.
Instead of summing up The Feminism, Feminists, or the Feminist Movement in any way shape or form, I’m just going to let the experts do it for you.
Point your browser over to feministing.com, a harem of horn trumpeting and the slandering of nonsense the likes of which I have never seen before. It’s as if someone has hot-boxed horseshit hysteria. Remember that one short-lived game on American Gladiator, where the contestants and the gladiators would bounce from platforms on bungee cords, with a frantic and desperate mania, to stick Velcro balls to a suspended pole in the middle of an arena? Of course you remember it you’re a man and every episode of that show was man-tasticly great. Feministing.com is a lot like that game. Except instead of contenders, gladiators, and balls; there are only women and their lust for getting outraged as quickly and as often as possible about absolutely any news story that has to do with men, women, or gender. The frantic and desperate mania is quite the same.
Since only men are allowed to read this, I can guarantee what the first thing that catches your eyes on that page will be, and that is the giant picture of the braless woman on the right hand column of the page with her nipples sticking through her shirt.
Let me repeat that.
With her braless nipples sticking through her shirt.
Interesting.
That’s a very interesting thing to see on a site whose sole purpose is to counter that exact kind of female empowerment (read exploitation). It’s so interesting that one might even call it not interesting at all, typical, and complete bullshit hypocrisy.
Far be it from me to tell someone how to run a business — which feminism definitely is, just as much as is Nike Jogging Wear for women. The picture is an ad to sell T-shirts. That’s fine. Everyone knows attractive women sell the goods as well as their goods (while still not being as good as men at doing so). Women see that ad and immediately lust for her braless attention like rabid wolves, frothing at the mouth for their chance to casually tread the line between “taken seriously” and “woops”.
Put your hard helmets on, ladies. Your integrity is dropping like flies as Girl Power strikes again.
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Hehe, I been here way long. Tho, my incentive has changed, well not my incentive..more so the way I see it.
Nah, Clair is alright from what I’ve seen. Not one of the feminazis at all. Just a girl trying to understand stuff. But if you wanna help cleanse Oz of some vastly more distasteful example of the feminine gender, check out Maelstrom and sharpen yer stone axe mate, heheh
Clair is a chik i knew it!
KIll it quick before it calls its kin!
Clair is a chik i knew it!
I think alot of women that come here angry are like me, they don’t understand the content properly, and Johnny is right, we get cut. Not thinking that “oh no hes onto me”, more like “he just said ALL women are whores…how can he say that?! thats so mean!!”.
You call this man-talk right? Well, we dont see it as man-talk, perhaps it really does happen and we’re sheltered from it, but we just see it as plain being mean.
Most of the men here really do think, for themselves, with open minds. Life experience and observation has paved the way for their opinions, which in itself says much for the troubles in our society. Torturing stats is exactly what we accuse feminists of having done in order to propagate their hatred of men and instigate the daemonisation of the male of the species. By far the greatest bias has been in favour of women’s movements, and no reasonable person can say what we have, or even that what society is headed for, is by any stretch of anyone’s imagination “equality”. Your correct in that girls should not have their minds filled with horrific generalisations which cuase them fear when they walk in the streets. Nobody should walk with fear, the fact such fear is largely based in total falsehood makes it even more sinister. But to what end has such fear been placed in women of our age? We have laws against violent behaviour, and as you’ll find if you read enough of the posts on this website, most men adore women, and as BrokenJohnny expresses, respect many aspects of womanhood which are sadly absent in much of modern society.
In Australia for example, the slogan of the time is “Violence against women is a crime” rather than “Violence is a crime”. So basically its ok to go punch a man’s face into putty, but yelling aggressively at your wife when she’s thrown a saucepan of spaghetti sauce at you is the same as splitting her head open with a fence paling while she’s asleep. Our rape laws are now virtually such that if you don’t have a written and signed consent form a man risks serious prison time, and the merest sniff of alcohol on a woman’s breath mean’s she’s somehow no longer responsible for her actions and therefore incapable of having given consent whatsoever.
Again, this comes from the daemonic image of men that has evolved over the past several decades. Did decent women instigate these images, no. Women whom despise men such as those post comments about cooking their male offspring’s penis on feminazi websites are largely accountable for it.
Wouldn’t you rather be made fun of for ridiculous stereotyping as this website does, than be daemonised as a criminal waiting to perpetrate another horror upon society for no better reason than being a gender? We men suffer both every single day of the year, ridicule, and daemonsation. The imbalance is astronomically weighted towards women in both media and law.
I agree with most everything BrokenJohnny says about his respect and love for women, my only difference is that I don’t need a intellectual woman to be content. I thankfully have many intellectual friends with whom I can stimulate my mental faculties with highbrow topics, and think the love and affection a good woman can offer is delightful enough in itself.
Respect however, is something a person earns, civility is what all people deserve until they prove they no longer deserve it. This is the essence of human dignity. Respect is something a person merits through their actions or judgements or proven capicity to perform a wholesome and useful thing. That’s why respected people are looked up to, but modern women demand it be given them on the basis of the fact they want it and expect it. Respect is also something that can be as easily lost after having previously earned it. Such observations on the state of society do not mean I hate women, I’d not spend so much time with them if that were the case, but rather that with an open and fact absorbing mind I am not convinced by Tim the Toolman that men are blundering idiots incapable of anything constructive, nor am I convinced by the movement to end the negative portrayal of women that are perfect in every way and victims of mankind. Nor do I believe that 100 years ago western women were beaten brood mares enslaved to the stove and regarded by their husbands as just another possession of less value or concern than their cigar humidor. The facts, when you really look for the truth, are quite compelling. Families back then were a solid unit of joint adult partnership, and they thrived as a result. 50% of modern family units by comparison, are akin to a toy smashed by a petulantly spoilt self-absorbed child.
I dont understand how hard it is to grasp the fact that this site is made for men and by men. Seriously, if you cannot take man-talk or man-logic, get the fuck out of this site. Johnny has explained this numerous times.
Do I hate them through and through? Of course not. That would make me some sort of celibate homosexual. *chuckles*
Can I come up with reasons I respect them? Certainly.
I respect women for being able to retain a level of innocence that naturally alludes a man. This fosters a trait of gentleness I find utterly delightful. I respect women for their compassion for those less fortunate, which is perhaps a facet of the motherly instinct. I enjoy the counterpart of emotion which only women can bring to a conversation. I enjoy the womanly insight into my personal trials or opinions. I respect the brilliance of mothers who successfully raise a household of happy children, keep the home, and somehow manage to keep their sanity! That, my friends, is an art form, and a clear sign of amazing character.
I could go further. But I digress.
Women have many qualities which I find wonderful. That said, let me explain the reason I am even a part of a site like this.
Women, as described above, and a rare, rare commodity. Innocense and humbleness are not virtues found in many people these days. Male or female. But this site isn’t about males. It’s about females. Women, who are innocent, who are pure, who realize that love is a choice, which comes with a feeling, women who are always willing to admit when they are wrong, women who are honest, forthright,and true, women who are creative, critical thinkers; These women are but a scattered remnant upon this earth. Many of them believe they exhibit those traits, yet fail to live up to them, even remotely. But they’ll die before they’d admit it.
I have come accross a few women in my life that I absolutely adore. They are everything a woman should be. Hell, everything a HUMAN should be. They are the perfect female counterpart to male. But I note a disturbing trend in how MOST females are starting to act.
Like any person, I’m out in the world every day. I work, socialize, and the like. I encounter hundreds of new people every week. I note trends in how they act. How they dress. How they talk. And ultimately, how they think.
I can say that from my own personal experience, the vast majority of the women I meet do not come close to living up to the list of womanly qualities I stated above. I still treat these women with respect, but it is a front. Inside, I despise them for what they truely are. Especially the beautiful ones. Painfully understanding that I could never be with someone so shallow, desperately attracted to their beauty, and livid that beauty and intellectual depth so utterly reject each other.
I am angry, not only at the women who embrace the fallacies of our popular culture, but the men who endeavored in the first place to program a society of these types in order to gain untold riches and power. And trust me, I speak out against that much more than I do about my beefs with women. Not at this forum, of course, as it isn’t a place for political dissidents.
I wholeheartedly wlecome new experiences. I seek them. I crave them! And I have certainly not made the mistake of completely closing my mind to the benevolence of womankind. But, as I stated before, this site is not about discussing the good aspects of women. It is about discussing the bad.
I’m happy for you. And I hope things work out. Unlike you, I had a very loving image of woman and men during my upbringing. But at a time in my life when I COULD choose who I would be with, I was either such a complete and consistant failure at choosing the right person, or I was simply delluding myself into believing I would ever find the qualities in women that I sought. I am willing to entertain both possibilities, however in reality, neither are absolutes. When I was young, I was very emotionally mature. The girls I would often hook up with were not. Having a complete understanding of myself overshadowed the fact that they might not share said understanding about themselves. This led to heartbreak, needless to say, when I was no longer able to logically relate to a girl who was simply too immature to be with.
I’ve had many girlfriends, met from many different sources. Church, parties, work, ect. And in each time, I have either been completely burned by lies and deceit, or had my dignity stripped away in hopes I would be submissive and dominated. Sometimes they would break up with me, sometimes I would break up with them. But in either instance, retrospect showed a complete self-serving attitude in them, reaffirmed by family and friends from both parties.
This leaves me to wonder how I am to ever find a rational woman who I am attracted to. Where do they gather? Where can I find them? And do they even exist? (While I’m sure you consider yourself having all the positive womanly qualities I have listed, I won’t do you the diservice of arguing that you don’t.)
Tell me, how can I find a woman that fits my personality? How can I find a TRULY giving, honest, selfless girl? And if I do find one, what are the chances she will be able to hold a conversation?
That’s about as loud as I can scream. Unfornutalely,
“men scream at a frequency which women cannot hear”, -Rev T. D. Jakes.-
This site is dedicated to breaking through all the bullshit we men have encountered with women in the past. Do we make unfair generalizations? All the time, and they’re hilarious. Well, hilarious to the other men here. And it would be fine if women didn’t come here. But they do, and they take our satire and generalizations as ignorant misogyney. That may be true for a few of our members, but the vast majority simply want to vent our frusterations to a sympathetic ear. Imagine the scenario of a bunch of boys drinking together, bullshitting about how bad their woman treats them. If the woman were to hear, she’d immediately step in to badger them. She of course would be accuasted. Now, between the men, it is understood that they love their women. They are talking a man language of sorts which helps them deal with the frusterations of their marriage. A language that makes sense to other men, but would be horribly offensive to the woman herself. Everything would be fine if the woman never heard the conversation. The men would sober up, go home, and continue to love their wife and treat her with dignity and respect. But if the wife ever overheard the conversation, she would simply go nuts.
This is exactly what happenes here.
Many of us may seem completely ignorant and hateful when we post, but most of the time, our responses to the women’s comments here are just us trying to piss off what we identify as the negative womanly archetype I described earlier.
An archetype which you personally may or may not fall into. No need for me to start passing judgment when we’ve come this far. *nods*
Psuedo-intellectuals do dearly love to hear (or read) their own words, do they not?
While I cannot truthfully say I unerringly agree 100% with everything said on these pages…the vast majority of what passes here for rambling strikes quite a chord.
Hailing from a certain viewpoint (such as mine), virtually all of the problems that exist ‘tween the genders stems from how society bends the young mind. To wit: Women are inundated from youth with pictures of waif-thin photos of models (most of which are themselves serving a sentence to a societal bias) and then have it berated into their psyches that THIS is beauty.
Society screams that men are not to be trusted (hence the fear of rape and criminal expression women feel simply walking down the street), and that precautions should always be employed by the fairer sex against such possible molestations…and then in the same breath those same women cry out for equality?
In this more modern day and age we are constantly accosted on every sensory front with society’s version of what we should or should not be…what we should or should not think…and in this day and age where information is so readily and easily available, I…for one, like to think for myself.
When a man (or woman) decides to gather information and analyze it in order to deduce an answer to a situational problem, learning begins.
This learning creates a ripple effect, and eventually it makes it way out from the individual into the collective…
Agreed. Many of the women who come here think every guy is just backing the other one up. Just for the fun of bashing women.
Some of these guys go to extremes to make a point. But if you read between the lines you’ll see they are dead on.
Mike has it nailed down, just like Johnny.
I only point out that I only slightly disagree with the “herd mentality”, I see it more along the lines of “habit” and “inertia” at this point. The squeakiest fucking wheel gets the grease, NOT the one that needs it.
So, the few and proud whine the loudest, they get what they want (trends, and feminism) and the rest of us have to follow after the “laws” are passed.
Not herd, herd implies just following TO follow. Plenty of men out there are pissed, or disgruntled, but have been taught for so long to shut the fuck up and take it for a piece of ass that they still do…..at least, until NOW.
Because women push and men won’t push back, the Golden Pussy has made a strong comeback, and pussywhipped is a way of life anymore, not just an idea. When men push back, and women have to pay the price, THEN you will get what you want:
Actual and TRUE Equality, even for men. Not women being MORE equal than we are.
If you won’t fight for the right, you get no rights at all. Women FINALLY figured that one out. They bitched long enough and loud enough, and the end result is what you see now, when men finally gave them SOME of what they want just to get them to shut the fuck up.
Johnny good post. But once these young men realize the double standards of our culture, they are going to be even more pissed.
I don’t believe it’s a “herd mentality” here.
Sophia:
Hmmm, I didn’t expect that coherent of a response. I’m impressed.
I believe part of your frusteration with many men on this site may be due to age gap. The younger men here, while I respect and love them all, just simply haven’t developed their personalities far enough to express the deeper meanings behind their misogynistic rantings. Not a fault of their, just simply a place they haven’t naturally reached. But behind the insults and nonsense, these men do recognize the inconsistencies and double-standards in our modern culture, and are greatly disturbed by them.
To many, this site is a haven of sorts, and it’s threatening to have women coming here touting their delusions of grandeur. Being a haven, these men are better equipped to discuss the matters troubling them with the other men here. And being a haven to complain about how we have been mistreated by women, it’s only natural for us to lash out at the text-book comments we so often receive, questioning our sexuality, our manhood, and our social status.
Unfortunately, this gets mixed up between women who actually have a point to make, which even you must admit, are few and far between here.
Sophia, I doubt you will get anywhere by posting your opinions of men and women in this comments section. It hardly fosters conversation. However, while I love Dick Masterson’s work, and whole heartedly support him, you may find that I would be a more reasonable party to converse with.
Most people here are simply defending this site from the common trolls which frequent here. II often take it upon myself to engage the heart of the matter, and am more than willing to do so with you, if you should choose.
But you will find that trying to change people’s minds here is a futile effort, as the site caters to discussion between men, not men and women. Yet many women come here feeling the need to defend their gender, when really, no defense is necessary. We know what you are trying to say. We know we make unfair generalizations at times. But we do this as a tool to streamline the communication process. To globalize the pitfals of womanhood is easier than trying to establish archetypes for individuals.
When you say people make hateful statements towards those they hate, you are right, and wrong.
Understand the variable at play here. You come to this site, express your opinion, and receive hateful responses. Do these men really hate you? Of course not. they don’t know you. Do they hate all women? Of course not. They are men.
Do they hate certain aspects of women? Yes. Do they hate many of the general trends women seem to follow? Yes.
You see, hate is broader a spectrum than the black and white you painted it as.
For further example, I hate the police force. I hate the abuse of power, the corruption, and the unnecessary use of force. I hate the driving mindset of people in power to keep the masses in check by any means necessary.
However, I respect the difficulty of their job. I value the time and service they provide the community. They are an essential function to any society. They save lives every day. I treat officers I meet with respect and dignity, and I truly believe they deserve it.
This is how many of us feel about women. Understand that our broad generalizations are about common trends which can be seen to some degree in nearly all women. And most of the time, when we make a direct generalization, we are just trying to piss you off.
I don’t hate women, because I know that the vanishingly small minority are decent, and don’t wear their morals up their arse. I simply tolerate the other 99.999% of the female population because I have to. Everywhere you go these days you have to interact with women, so if I actively despise every one of them it will make for a very difficult life.
Gone are the days where you could go to work and not have to worry about some loud mouth whore ruining a perfectly nice lunch break. Unless of course you worked on a farm, then you could supply your own food and income and thus cut out the women completely. That would be the life.
*D3C*
There may be several hateful statements on this site but they are usually directed at fembots or women who deserve them. As you can see in the forums, the men do treat the women deserving of respect with respect. For me, I give everybody including women a certain degree of respect. From there, that respect either diminishes or increases.
Thats that.
Again, why would I hate women? That makes no sense. I just find the typical women to be weak and incompetent - Perhaps this is being very elitist but I do not respect the weak and incompetent. Does this mean I hate them? Nope. I just find it laughable how women can claim to be equals when the laws and justice system are entirely in their favour. Or how dare they claim to stand on the same foothold as men without the same accomplishments? Sorry, I may respect a particular WOMAN but I do not hold the general population of women with much(or any) respect.
Women who come on this site usually take umbrage at the blanket statement that all women are the same. True, there are exceptions and I recognise that. They will then show that they are part of “that exception” with statements like “I HAVE A PHD!!!” or “I take double degrees” or in the case of yourself “I am intelligent !!!” blah, all intended to gain recognition and approval from men, no? Respect from men is not given freely or easily. You have to earn that respect. Learn to show some empathy, understanding and femininity… and maybe you will earn my respect. If this doesnt matter to you(which you may claim) then dont bother. Dont even reply or post. Point.
Congratulations for figuring it out. You win the door prize.
Broken Johhny,
Perhaps you do not hate women, but it is very apparent the people on this site do. If I said, “Oh, there is this girl in my class who is really stupid and has no business even wasting money on tuition. She is such a slut and a bitch at that! I can’t stand how superficial she is and the stupid nonsense that spews out her mouth.” Would you honestly believe that I hate her or that she is my best friend? What I am trying to prove is, people make hateful statements towards those they hate. Very obvious statement but with heavy implications in terms of this site. So yes, I believe that people on this site (present company excluded) are misogynists.
Broken Johnny,
First of all, let me commend your worthy argument. You make some good points here. Some of which I must say I agree with.
Now you say, only men can read between these lines. Can it be that only women can properly understand the writings in the feminists site? And maybe you are misreading them? Let’s face it, men and women are inherently different. Just being in our respective bodies steers our viewpoints. For example, when I lived in the city, I was very conscious of my small size when I had to take the subway and was always very wary and scared of theft and rape. When I asked my male friends if this runs through their head when they walk around the city, they gave a resounding “no.” But this is the constant mental backdrop of every woman I know. See? We read these papers with different eyes because we had/have different daily experiences. So I would agree with you there that that can be the issue with this site and women reading the works and ask that you look at my stance on the feminists site.
As for the feminist ploy, I don’t put anything past big business. I interned at a PR firm once. All can be possible and money does tend to corrupt.
When I posited that Art serves no real purpose, I meant real purpose as in “practical, material.” We don’t need art to survive physically, and yet the soul needs to both express it and enjoy it.
Your thoughts on art are very beautiful themselves and many things can be seen as art. I believe it is; especially when I’ve been to NoHo and been utterly confused as to why someone would buy a brown smudge on a canvass for ten grand. I don’t see it. It does not speak to me. And yet my neighbor, the one who’s mother may have baked fresh chocolate chip cookies for him as a child, it may move him in such a subconscious and real way that he is compelled to buy it.
And yes, a whole separate forum can be started on the nature of truth. That is a difficult one to grapple and I won;t even try on this page or even to claim that I know when I have gone so little in my life. All I say is that in so far as I have lived, I believe this: “Truth is eternal. And so, the quest for truth must be eternal.”
Ahahaha! A tissue for your issues? Talk about emotional ranting. Look, you sound like you are very bitter from a ton of very bitter experiences. I have lived enough years on this earth to know you and your kind (raving, RAGING, bitter chauvinists) are in the vast and meager minority. I have never met a flesh and blood one and thankfully, I have had nothing but pleasant experiences with the flesh and blood type of guy. Now you’ll probably say “Oh, this is the act these poor pathetic guys have to put up.” Well, what is more important? Behavior or belief? Does a smart women stay with an abusive man because he sayssss he loves her? Of course not! Behavior trumps all. Thankfully, I haven’t been harshly embittered like you. I’m sorry you’re only mate is your sticky key board and bitter compadres. You have the free will to not respond and ignore this posting completely but something tells me you will give into temptation (history has shown you have a weak moral composition) and post something scathing with explatives, insults, and a whole pot luck of bon mots!