One in Three Women is Illiterate
Sometimes the statement men are better than women leaves me wanting a little more in the flavor of substance. It’s not often. Like all men, the shortcomings of women are something I’ve learned to accept and move on. However, occasionally we men need to re-evaluate. We need more than rational hypothesizing and logical conjecture. We need facts for the why’s and how’s.
I pose this as a formal theory. Men are better than women at everything because something like 30% of women are illiterate.
Sounds shocking doesn’t it? But really, when do women need to read? Numbers don’t count as reading, so illiteracy does not impede women from writing checks or measuring all the progress they’re not making while they’re not working out at the gym.
Before I get too ahead of myself let me quote some statistics. UNICEF and UNESCO say that two out of every three illiterates is a woman. They give the world-wide feminine literacy rate in the sixtieth percentile, while the male literacy rate towers above that number at nearly 90%. I think you’ll agree that that’s plenty of numerical majesty to spare.
Initially, when I saw the figures I thought to myself, maybe that’s why women are so shitty at everything. Just like the kid who is really shitty at baseball and then it turns out he just needed some glasses. Maybe women just need to learn how to read.
Then I realized the writing on the walls of every cluster fuck women are about to step into is only metaphorical writing. They also don’t need to be able to read to shut the hell up every once in a while and listen when something other than Oprah or an appliance that resembles Oprah is dispensing sound life advice.
Perhaps instead of Easy Bake Ovens and Barbie Dolls this Christmas, mothers should be buying their daughters Hooked on Phonics.
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No, you’re the blind ass Billy. If you agree with the statement that all women are whores, then this implies they will have sex with any man without question. So, if you say that many men can’t get laid (without paying for it) then I guess not all women are whores.
Integrity is not found in many women.
It is so rare in women yet there are many men with such quality.
Of course some men intiate an interest on married women these are men with a large ego.
Anon said:
“Secondly, if you literally interpret Dick logic, which states that all women are cheating whores, then this literally assumes that all women are biologically incapable of being anything but sluts, effectively guaranteeing men sex anytime, anywhere, any place, without having to visit a prostitute, thus refuting your argument that men cannot get sex without paying for it.”
No it don’t literally assume nothing, you assume and make an ass out of yourself. Women don’t always spread for any man. There are many men who never get laid yet any woman can get laid.
Then that refutes your previous statement that women are more likely than men to initiate affairs.
If the study you speak of says that women initiate affairs far more often than men, then surely men are guaranteed more than just wishful thoughts, more often than not?
Secondly, if you literally interpret Dick logic, which states that all women are cheating whores, then this literally assumes that all women are biologically incapable of being anything but sluts, effectively guaranteeing men sex anytime, anywhere, any place, without having to visit a prostitute, thus refuting your argument that men cannot get sex without paying for it.
Also, just because women may play the blame game and justify having affairs due to their partner’s behaviour, this does not mean the woman instigates the liaison with the third party, rather, the male third party may be the the instigator more often than not. I don’t condone extramarital affairs, however, considering heterosexual sex involves both a man and a woman, you cannot simply say that women do not have integrity and men do, with respect to a scenerio where a third party male initiates interest in another women who is already married.
“Finally, While men are admittedly always THINKING about having an affair, we are generally responsible enough to our families to know better. THere are, after all, obvious and practical disadvantages to doing so. The only time men can be assured of sex is when they go to a prostitute, the rest of the time, its just wishful thinking. Every research study on sexual interaction agrees that the WOMAN makes the choice, not the man. ”
I finally get it. So that means it is solely the woman’s fault that a man is cheating on his wife. That makes complete sense. I have seen the light. Thank you gentlemen.
is so loaded with judgement that some supporting evidence is necessary to give, especially here.
I am interested to know how that article defines “initiate” so would be good if you could find it. Also if these stats are true, very interesting to consider how they obtained proof from women that they had exhibited behaviours that proved they instigated affairs rather than men, the latter whom one is lead to believe were just passive, baffled recipients of attention.
I have to assume you are asking about the statement ” a woman is most likely to initiate an affair”. After all, Biology REQUIRES you to have a partner to cheat on a spouse ( though I suppose you could fuck yourself, but only women consider that cheating )
Also given that each sex is equally likely to cheat (try “cheating +spouses +Statistics” on google, and get a smorgasborg of links pertaining to these stats). The math would indicate that women have to be only marginally more promiscuous than men to push that stat over ( and given thats the main chorus of the feminist movement, one can hardly be suprised there.)
Its easy to get a women to get to admit to initiating an affair, all you have to do is ask them why their male partner deserved it ( and when you ask, they ALL tell you its the mans fault ).
Finally, While men are admittedly always THINKING about having an affair, we are generally responsible enough to our families to know better. THere are, after all, obvious and practical disadvantages to doing so. The only time men can be assured of sex is when they go to a prostitute, the rest of the time, its just wishful thinking. Every research study on sexual interaction agrees that the WOMAN makes the choice, not the man.
John,
This sentence
is so loaded with judgement that some supporting evidence is necessary to give, especially here.
I am interested to know how that article defines “initiate” so would be good if you could find it. Also if these stats are true, very interesting to consider how they obtained proof from women that they had exhibited behaviours that proved they instigated affairs rather than men, the latter whom one is lead to believe were just passive, baffled recipients of attention.
Thanks for the clarification John. If you can’t find the citation, np. I was just curious — I wanted to use your stat in the future, but don’t like doing so if I can’t cite a source (and get a look at the study).
Still very interesting.
-wolfe
I am afraid I misquoted the stat, Men think about cheating 10 times as often as women, but that women INITIATE an extramarital affair 6 times as often as men ( not actually cheat as often ) essentially the article was saying that while men and women are equally likely to cheat, the person (and it takes two) most likely to begin that affair is the woman, both single women approaching married guys, and married women looking outside thier relationship.
As for a link, Im still searching for it. I read the article in a magazine in a doctors office a few months ago, and finding an internet link is proving daunting.
Luka: Sorry I hit “I don’t want to comment on this point further” and skipped the rest a month ago. I was in a great hurry. My apologies, as your next word was “until”. ‘Ultimate deception’? The cuckoo’s egg. Deceiving the father and indeed the entire family about the parentage of a new member, for generations.
Contrast: fathering a child with another woman: she knows you’re the father, you know who the father is. The child may be deceived. Of course, if this woman is married, the situation is perilously close to the “ultimate deception”.
We have a 2×2 matrix of moral consequences: man (father of child) married to another- yes/no and woman (mother of child) married to another yes/no. In the case where the wife cheats and has a child it’s always bad. In the case where the man cheats and has a child it’s only as deceptive — and, in my view, as horrible, when the woman he cheats with is married. (I didn’t make this point clear enough in my original post).
This does mean I contend there is moral sexual symmetry in cheating with married people, but moral sexual asymmetry when cheating with the unmarried. Yes, this does cheat the genders unequally if there is any chance whatsoever of a conception.
John: “I was just curious if anyone mentioned the recent stats on cheating; that men THINK about cheating 10 times as often as women, but that women actually cheat 6 times as often as men.”
Fascinating. Wasn’t aware of those. Do you have a reference?
Who?
Exactly.
And I’m stealing from Dick.
No.
Actually, on average, men score slightly better. Also, the extremes are far more populated by men (both extremely good and extremely bad), namely, men have a higher standard deviation. If you look at the top 0.01% cohort of intelligence it’s heavily dominated by men. Of course so is the bottom 0.01%.
Perhaps you missed the name of this site?
He has wisdom… and he begins to see. Will he grasp the nettle by the thorns?
Ah, too bad, yes the thorns.
-wolfe
Gentlemen of the jury. May I direct your attention to the evidence at hand?
exhibit A
exhibit B
exhibit C
exhibit D
exhibit E
exhibit F
exhibit G
exhibit H
I think the evidence speaks for itself. Now please call this woman on her bullshit.
btw, a sense of the ridiculous, of being ridiculous as well as the common sense to care are terrible things to lack.
The holder of the highest IQ ever recorded belongs to a WOMAN!! Marilyn vos Savant. This fact might upset some of the men in this forum. This does not upset me at all. I am secure man. I have no problem admitting that a woman is smarter than me. On average women and men score equally on IQ tests. You all need to stop wasting your time constantly arguing what gender is better like little kids. All of you insult and criticize overbearing feminists yet you are too shallow to see that you are doing is the same thing just directed at the other sex. As a man I am insulted by this site that portrays us men as the evil oppressor these feminists make us out to be. This site validates their stance. Where are all the real men at?
link, i meant. sorry
Yes. But would you mind citing a source or presenting a source, please?
16 pages of responses, and I am too tired to troll through them. I was just curious if anyone mentioned the recent stats on cheating; that men THINK about cheating 10 times as often as women, but that women actually cheat 6 times as often as men.
To be fair, this study included both married and “long term relationships”, so It may be skewed slightly by the non-married non-voe partners, but I doubt it could skew it by 600%.
Thank you for your comments Wolfe.
I can see where you are coming from but I still don’t think women are any worse than men who cheat. The consequences you mention have their main difference on point 2 lets take a look at both.
2-[male fidelity] chance of a bastard child that might require monetary commitment but no ultimate deception on his part.
2- [female infidelity]chance of a bastard child that might require total commitment and ultimate deception on her part
I don’t want to comment on this point further until I understand exactly what it is you are saying. These points are not clear to me because I do not understand what you mean when you mention ‘ultimate deception’ - I think I know, but I don’t want to go on a tangent without clarifying it first.
Cheers!
-Luka
Clarification:
I add, since I was unclear — the consequences of male infidelity with respect to his own family are generally fungible.
On a strictly moral sense, IMO, men and women who cheat are equally contemptible. But that’s not all she wrote as I argue above.
I look forward to your thoughts and comments, Luka.
-wolfe
Luka,
In a knee-jerk sense, I agree with you. Infidelity — especially that which produces a child — is, as you say, inexcusable and dishono[u]rable.
In other words, our opinions on that matter appear to be the same. Let’s now analyze this further.
You suggest that “men and women are as bad as each other when it comes to cheating because both do it”.
No. I disagree. Oh, to be sure, they are equally contemptible. But not equally ‘bad’ from a societal perspective.
The consequences of a man’s infidelity are these:
1- slight increase in chance of STD’s
2- chance of a bastard child that might require monetary commitment but no ultimate deception on his part.
3- betrayal of his vows.
4- no denial to his spouse of reproduction.
The consequences of a woman’s infidelity are as follows:
1- higher risk in chance of STD’s
2- chance of a bastard child that might require total commitment and ultimate deception on her part
3- betrayal of her vows.
4- denies her spouse reproduction.
(3), we can agree is a wash. (1) seems unfair to women, but it speaks against female promiscuity. (2)… there’s the rub. There’s where we disagree. And 4… 4 is why men get very upset over this.
The consequences of male infidelity are generally fungible. The consequences of female infidelity generally are not. There’s the betrayal and destruction.
Men who cheat are contemptible. Women who cheat are worse.
-wolfe
Biff, you make an interesting observation with the idea that women agree to be monogamous in order that the father knows he is looking after his own children. Yet you also state that men can offer to not dilute the support towards his family within the marriage by having children with other women. These are both good points and from where I stand they are true.
Although it is true that the benefit each sex receives from marriage is different, both agreements, despite their differences, still centre around the concept of fidelity from both partners in order to make the marrige valid for both.
Therefore, infidelity can be viewed as equally dishonourable for both sexes given that these actions from either partner breaks an agreement based on the same fundamental principle - monogamy.
It is for this reason that I stand firmly by my opinion that infidelity is inexcusable for both sexes. I don’t agree with female infidelity any more than I do with male infidelity - there are very few acceptable excuses for this behaviour.
The point I was making with reference to male cheaters was not an attempt to justify this behaviour as acceptable because men do it too, or as a means of attacking male behaviour but rather to simply highlight that men and women are as bad as each other when it comes to cheating because both do it. You are perfectly right to criticise such behaviour in women, but keep it in gender-perspective by not forgetting that men are not angels either.
“Well men cheat too!!” is by definition a feminist based argument.
By making the argument that male and female infidelity is the same creates the assumption that men and women bring the same benefits to a marriage. They absolutly do not.
A marriage contract says a woman will pledge chastity in exchange for economic and social security. In other words monogamous sex for paychecks. The only thing a man has to offer is earning ability and physical security. He can’t approach a woman and offer that her children will be hers. That is absurd. He can offer to be monogomous and not dilute his earning power by having children outside of marriage.
On the other hand a woman can approach a man and say, “I promise that my children will be yours.” That promise right there is the only power in the universe that will push men to their full potential.
Feminism wants it both ways. They want the freedom to be promiscuous and the earning power that men provide. The problem is the either/or issue. A woman can 1) pledge monogamy, marriage, and be provided for, or 2) have sexual freedom, be a single mom, and poverty.
My correcting myself in the first place explicitly demonstrated that I didn’t assume that you would present only feminist based arguments.
Back to “cheating”…
Maybe you could. If that comment was for me, (as it probably was for Dick or someone else) limited personal observations from the both of us mean little, though. I do agree that cheating is wrong, either way.