Oprah Knows Shit About Shit

I was walking through an airport recently and I saw the following headline on a shitty magazine:

“What do Men Really Think About Boob Jobs?”

I was filled with dismay. Of course a question like this wouldn’t be on a men’s magazine. First of all, men’s magazines don’t phrase their headlines so fucking stupidly. What do men really think about boob jobs? I don’t know, why the fuck don’t you just say what they think on the front so I actually give a shit about reading the why’s and how’s. That’s called marketing, you fucks.

But that’s not the way it was. This was Oprah.

I’ll tell you what men think about boob jobs. They love them. I know this because I’m a man and all men think the same. That’s why we’re always right. You know that old saying, “there’s more than one way to skin a cat”? Well there are. There about a million ways to skin a cat and 999,999 of them are fucking wrong. Women know every single one of them.

All men agree that boob jobs are good. Not for all women of course, but for the one’s boob jobs are good for, they’re good for. See, men don’t live by hard and fast stupid rules like women do. Rules that women invent when they’re 5 years old because they think it’s cute or because their fucking mother tells them that’s what you have to do to be an adult.

Here’s my point. Myself and all men like anything that encourages women to take a good hard look in the mirror and ask themselves, “Why do I look like shit?”

Because they do. They all fucking do. All women look completely like shit pretty much most of the time. Have you seen those fucking bug-eye sunglasses women wear? They look asinine. Case closed.

Every day I get home from work and ask myself, “how can I do a better job? What do I need to learn or practice to be more productive?” With women, looks should be treated exactly the same. Women are nothing more than their looks after all and they all know it. That’s why Curves the women’s only gym is so successful. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. That would be sexist, which I’m not. It’s just the way it works. Anything else would be like trying to pound a square peg into a cannonball.

Oprah is humongously fat. She knows absolutely nothing about what men think about anything so fuck off Oprah magazine. I’m pretty sure whatever your article said on what men think about anything was fucked and full of self-fellating shit about inner beauty and the best color shoes to wear to make your tits look bigger. Blue isn’t magic. It’s just an ugly color for shoes.

Fuck what men think about boob jobs. What do women think about boob jobs? That’s the interesting question. They’re the ones that are so fucking obsessed with them.

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Comment by Luka
2006-08-28 02:54:36

Sonyad - you have a valid point. I would agree that Big Brother has come to pass in the UK - but I am not sure that ThoughtCrime is strictly speaking in existence yet - although of course there have been forms of it in history.

Some of the concepts explained in that book were terrifying - the DoubleThink concept is a bit freaky. I’m thinking that a part of this concept has to have been used during the times of the Soviets and/or Nazis, though I confess that I don’t really know exactly where or how. In my view George Orwell is a fantastic writer - very accurate with incredible understanding of how power manifests itself and operates.

The unfortunate thing about 1984 is that it has been dominated by the TV series, so now when anyone mentions Big Brother, it conjurs up images of stupid men and women stuck in a house with cameras watching them all day.

 
Comment by wolfe
2006-08-27 17:39:28

sonyad said:

Yes, George Orwell’s 1984.
We read you loud’n clear, Wolfe. Just didn’t occur you’d expect feedback.

I didn’t. But it’s welcome. Josh’s position, that people who’s views he disagreed with (even when no evidence of disagreeable views existed) did indeed seem profoundly Orwellian.

The questionmark after “ThoughtCrime, anyone” was simply rhetorical in nature.

@sony, I agree, the Soviet Empire is good evidence of both ThoughtCrime and Big Brother, and most UK urban centers are good evidence of the latter.

The US is not as far away as I’d like from it either. While we’re not yet a “surveillance society” the way the UK is, the degree of data-mining that goes on in the information age is disturbing indeed. While many will also point to NSA-wiretaps, and bypassing FISA courts as another dangerous example, I’m more worried about the return of the “Imperial Presidency” and ‘unitary executive’ theories of which such of course is one manifestation. And the corporation, HMO, or labor union down the street can’t control the NSA. They can data-mine you and strip privacy from you, though.

@gwallan, I’d certainly agree.

-wolfe

 
Comment by gwallan
2006-08-27 16:39:11

sonyad said:

I beg to differ. I contend that thought crime and the thought police have already come to pass. So too Big Brother.

The Evil Empire of the Soviets, as Reagon would doubtlessly put it and downtown London, respectively.

Orwell is one of the great prophets of recent times. Even the choice of 1984 as a title coincides very accurately with the beginings of gender feminism.

And Josh, read my previous post.

 
Comment by Billy
2006-08-27 14:22:31

sonyad said:

I beg to differ. I contend that thought crime and the thought police have already come to pass. So too Big Brother.

The Evil Empire of the Soviets, as Reagon would doubtlessly put it and downtown London, respectively.

And don’t forget the feminoxious laws and cunt court systems.

 
Comment by Billy
2006-08-27 14:10:33

Josh said:

First of all, I have not bothered to read any of the posts that you have made (if any) in response to me. I no longer have the energy or enthusiasm to confront you that I have had in droves recently. Please don’t kid yourself into thinking this is because of your arguments, it is because I have become so disappointed that people like you exist that feel I can no longer warrant spending time here.

I sincerely hope that you can get some perspective soon and realise that your attitudes are nothing but degrative to society. Have a go at considering other peoples opinions, even if just once, you may be surprised to realise they could have a point.

Goodbye

How cowardly of you… Then again good riddance you rodent!

 
Comment by Billy
2006-08-27 14:09:53

Josh said:

First of all, I have not bothered to read any of the posts that you have made (if any) in response to me. I no longer have the energy or enthusiasm to confront you that I have had in droves recently. Please don’t kid yourself into thinking this is because of your arguments, it is because I have become so disappointed that people like you exist that feel I can no longer warrant spending time here.

I sincerely hope that you can get some perspective soon and realise that your attitudes are nothing but degrative to society. Have a go at considering other peoples opinions, even if just once, you may be surprised to realise they could have a point.

Goodbye

 
Comment by Josh
2006-08-27 14:06:52

First of all, I have not bothered to read any of the posts that you have made (if any) in response to me. I no longer have the energy or enthusiasm to confront you that I have had in droves recently. Please don’t kid yourself into thinking this is because of your arguments, it is because I have become so disappointed that people like you exist that feel I can no longer warrant spending time here.

I am aware that you will probably reply to this with comments along the lines of ‘looks like we proved him (or her) wrong’ etc… and to be honest I don’t care, if you want to kid yourself into this then please be my guest.

If you read back to one of the posts on this site you will see a surprisingly good quote ‘Many, but stupid’, this describes the whole sexist movement and this site in general perfectly. I am ashamed to call myself male if this is what being male involves. I personally believe that your feelings are rooted in either upbringing or rejection, either of these cases are tragic but do not warrant this despicable behaviour.

I’m not going to be checking this site again, although I have told a few of my friends about you and I’m sure you’ll get a few more messages.

I sincerely hope that you can get some perspective soon and realise that your attitudes are nothing but degrative to society. Have a go at considering other peoples opinions, even if just once, you may be surprised to realise they could have a point.

Goodbye

(P.S. ‘Spear Chucker’, if you eventually manage to find me and enclose on me from the four points of the compass and two vertical orientations, please point yourself out to me first, I will happily take the pleasure beating you down from your perch with a huge smile on my face)

 
Comment by sonyad
2006-08-27 10:52:15

I beg to differ. I contend that thought crime and the thought police have already come to pass. So too Big Brother.

The Evil Empire of the Soviets, as Reagon would doubtlessly put it and downtown London, respectively.

 
Comment by Luka
2006-08-27 10:33:57

I’m reading 1984 at the moment.

I find George Orwell’s writing to be accurate on many aspects of 20th Century history plus his ideas regarding the ‘thought police’ is chilling because it could happen in the modern world (and might even be in the process of happening??). Indeed, with the speed of the development of technology today, the thought police and ‘big brother’ are not very far from the realm of possibility.

 
Comment by sonyad
2006-08-27 10:18:04

Yes, George Orwell’s 1984.
We read you loud’n clear, Wolfe. Just didn’t occur you’d expect feedback.

 
Comment by gwallan
2006-08-27 10:04:56

Josh any attempt on your behalf to debate with myself has been notable only by it’s absence.
You seem to miss the whole point of this site. You are taking it far too seriously.
Go check out feministing.org
It is an hilarious satire of many of the internet’s renowned feminist sites. Believe me when I say that, while MABTW may appear to be populated by women haters, we couldn’t possibly compete with the vile hatred of men published on many of the serious feminist sites. Appearences aside nobody here genuinely hates women in the way many feminists openly espouse not only hatred of men but violence against them to the point of genocide.
Another valuable read for you would therefore be the SCUM manifesto. The SCUM in this instance stands for the Society for Cutting Up Men. Hold on to your guts. You’ll need to. As you read it bear in mind that it is compulsory reading in many Women’s Studies courses and is paid great reverence by many feminists. Also notable with this particular link is that the site hosting it claims to advocate against violence.
Above all lighten up. There are some very knowledgeable folk posting here and, more particularly, in the forums. Don’t waste the opportunity.
And look at it this way. There is an immense difference between saying (admittedly a bit hyperbolically at times) that men are better than women as against seriously demanding that all men should be exterminated.

 
Comment by Josh
2006-08-26 11:45:59

Do you have a pact to compliment each other to boost your self esteem? you will notice that in the first set of posts I made I attempted to debate reasnably with you. However you will notice if you try and argue with someone similar to you in the future that if someone is convinced they are right and not mature enough to consider other possibilities, it is very difficult.

Refusing to understand the meaning behind my posts is another way of avoiding the issue.

I have a piece of advice, read through your posts before you submit them and see if the arguments you are presenting can be used against you. You’ll find that in the majority of cases they can, which is way its so much fun replying to you :-)

 
Comment by gwallan
2006-08-26 10:52:32

Thanks wolfe.
I’m sure I read the posts concerned but the lack of substance clearly resulted in my subconscious consigning them to the virtual dunny.
Good to know my bullshit and waste-of-space filters are working.

 
Comment by wolfe
2006-08-26 10:14:53

@gwallan: Josh has no argument. That became apparent in the first few posts I exchanged with him. Later, he even admitted it to Sony: “I also choose simply to annoy as much as possible and not be your ’sparring partner’ (It’s my right) as I have no need to argue with you to prove a point, as I already know who is correct.

Prejudiced would certainly be an accurate word, denotatively speaking, to describe Josh. (Josh seems to have a problem believing that others grasp denotation and connotation as well as he does). Add in the gay comments, the segregation on the basis of someone’s thoughts (ThoughtCrime anyone?) and we can say he’s some form of fairly repulsive bigot.

But all that — his prejudice and bigotry — is irrelevant. He, or she, is simply a troll by ‘his’ own admission. Don’t expect logic or rationality out of Josh’s mouth or fingers anytime soon.

@Josh: Note how I actually referenced specific things you’d said to construct an argument, rather than just made blind assertions. This is what grownups do.

-wolfe

 
Comment by Dick Masterson
2006-08-26 09:05:55

What?

-Dick

 
Comment by Josh
2006-08-26 06:24:00

Mantastic, wow, your earning your credit there, big man points to you. Notice how while trying to get me to present an argument your pals are constantly ridiculing someone who disagrees with them?

 
Comment by Dick Masterson
2006-08-26 00:33:22

diamatik, I didn’t even have to mouse over that link to know it goes here. That was a classically mantastic joke.

-Dick

 
Comment by gwallan
2006-08-26 00:06:54

Josh said:

Troll!? Oh no! You’ve hurt my feelings! …Oh wait, no you haven’t. try and construct a decent argument.

So do you have an argument to present - good, bad or indifferent?

 
Comment by diamatik
2006-08-25 19:16:35

Well, if you’re childish enough to believe that I am bigoted and sexist for believing that men are better than women, then so be it. But I have undisputable proof of it here.

 
Comment by Josh
2006-08-25 18:13:41

Fair enough, took you a while to get your quote tho… Much rather be a troll than a bigoted sexist.. just saying :-)

 
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