Rape!

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Women think that they somehow own rape — as though rape itself were a wedding and no man could have an opinion about it.

Actually, that was more profound than I thought it was going to be.

More men than women are raped every year. I, Dick Masterson, am taking back rape like I took back the vote. It’s a man thing and women aren’t allowed to have an opinion on it.

Rape is one of the most underreported crimes in the world. That’s because women don’t really give a shit about it. I sat on my seatbelt one time. It sucked and I was sore for a bit, but I cranked some metal all the way to work and by the time I got there, I didn’t give a shit. That’s basically the same as women and rape. They just need an extra long shower.

Extra long showers are metal for women.

Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police. If women love to hate rape so much, then why do they constantly miss the opportunity to do something about it? Because they’re women. If rolling her eyes doesn’t fix the problem, it’s passed to the nearest man.

More men are raped every year than women. When I decided that, I was initially shocked at the statistics, which indicated the opposite: that I was wrong.

Prison rape statistics put the annual number of prisoner rape at approximately 7,000 a year. The average number of women who are “sexually assaulted” every year is 200,780.

That’s a big fucking difference. Like a wedding or menopause, it looks like women should own rape and be able to say whatever they want about it. However, like usual when dealing with women, I knew there was some bullshit afoot with that staggering 200,000.

When I forced my man-probe of investigation into this data, I discovered that “sexual assault” is not the same as rape. Apparently women aren’t going by the long-established and very manly Clinton definition of “sexual” when they define “assault”. If it didn’t fit, you must acquit.

64,080 of sexual assaults involve actual rape. And a staggeringly low 26% of these rapes were committed by an actual stranger.

A roommate who drinks all your beer isn’t a thief, he’s just a dick. A younger brother who burns your toys isn’t an arsonist, he’s just a dick. A guy who fucks a drunk girl who passed out in his bed isn’t a rapist, he’s just a dick. Get over it.

26% of 64,000 rape victims is 16,640 women. Getting your boob grabbed on the subway isn’t rape.

A woman might think these pruning measures should be applied to my prison man-rape statistics, but if anything, prison rape is probably more underreported than regular rape.

I have something I call the Treasure Map of Truth that I use when dealing with women. Step one is determining what women actually mean with a word like “sexually”. They never mean what you think they mean. Step two means figuring out how much of it was her fault. It’s usually very high. In this case, 74%. And step three is see where she’s lying her fucking ass off.

Less than half of accused rapists are convicted. 54% to be mancise. That means any man accused of and arrested for rape is likely to not have done shit. Can anyone say Duke Lacrosse?

If 54% of rapes didn’t actually happen, then that reported 16,640 goes down to 7,654.

If I was a woman, that’s where I would stop. 7,654 women and 6,908 men are raped every year and it looks like women barely squeaked out a majority on this one. That doesn’t mean it’s theirs, but it does make me wrong, which I’m much more concerned about.

By all conservative estimates, 10% of rape victims are male. That means the final rape statistics for any given year are 7,750 men and 6,750 women.

Men are better than women.

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306 Responses to “Rape!”

  1. El Chauvinisto Says:

    Good work Dick! That’s my favorite ‘Dick In Your Ear’ yet. Keep it up.

  2. J.D. Says:

    There isn’t a whole lot of prison rape, really. There’s always plenty of guys in prison who like sex - with whomever. They can be straight as an arrow on the outside, but once they step foot in prison they go looking for it. This happens a lot in the Mexican prison community especially.

    If you really, really want sex, and you’re an inmate in prison, you can buy it from the other inmates who pimp the gays out.

    The gays usually trade it for protection or favors.

  3. Chris Says:

    Very good, Dick.

    You write: “Less than half of accused rapists are convicted. 54% to be mancise. That means any man accused of and arrested for rape is likely to not have done shit.”

    This is instructive, and I cannot recall any media report ever making this distinction - not as a story itself, but in the general reporting of the “stats.”

    Your also write: “Step one is determining what women actually mean with a word like “sexually”. They never mean what you think they mean. Step two means figuring out how much of it was her fault. It’s usually very high. In this case, 74%. And step three is see where she’s lying her fucking ass off.”

    This, too, is instructive, and is likely never considered in the “rape crisis” centers still littering campuses in North America. It also lays waste to all of the ancillary bullshit attached to the “rape” epidemic, such as the escort services and the early-response telephones. A lot of public expense resting on quite shaky foundations.

    On a less “scholarly” note, I know of only one woman who openly claimed being raped (by a “prominent member of the community” - her words, not mine, of course). Curiously, she drank like a fish and I screwed her silly for seven hours straight - after making her acquaintance earlier that evening. Hmmmmmm.

    MABTW

  4. KellyMac Says:

    J.D. said:

    There isn’t a whole lot of prison rape, really. There’s always plenty of guys in prison who like sex - with whomever. They can be straight as an arrow on the outside, but once they step foot in prison they go looking for it. This happens a lot in the Mexican prison community especially.

    If you really, really want sex, and you’re an inmate in prison, you can buy it from the other inmates who pimp the gays out.

    The gays usually trade it for protection or favors.

    I beg to differ:

    http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/

  5. sonyad Says:

    Notice the implication in J. D.’s post. That ‘being pimped out’ is implicitly consensual. Such disdain for working girls.

    Observe also her thinly veiled contempt for ‘gays’ as well.

    Straight from the mare’s mouth, if you’ll pardon the corny play.

    - tiesto feat julie thompson - do you feel me

  6. sonyad Says:

    Pardon the tautology.

    - tiesto feat julie thompson - do you feel me

  7. Alex Says:

    That’s what you take issue with, KellyMac? Not that you shoudn’t, because men’s issues need to be brought to light as much as women’s, but I find it incredible that you took no offense to what is arguably one of Dick’s most misogynistic and offensive articles. The percentage of rape that is the female victim’s fault is “usually very high” (as if it’s ever the victim’s fault)? Rape isn’t rape if the woman is unconcious? Women don’t give a shit about rape, all they need is a long shower, and they should “get over it”? You find none of this offensive enough to be worth commenting on?

  8. Savant Says:

    Ahem, Alex. STFU.

    That’s something that I learned on myspace, from a bunch of 13 year old girls. Apparently it means “shut the fuck up”. I guess women think shit like that is cool. Anyways…

    In this country, it is unlawful to force oneself sexually on another person, and I… somewhat…. agree with that.

    The somewhat comes into play, because apparently it is NOT unlawful to dress provocatively, cocktease, and ruthlessly play men to “feel pretty”. I totally understand that daddy didn’t love you because he wouldn’t dye a pony pink, teach it how to fly and give it to you on your 16th birthday along with a Farrari. We all feel for you, and know that you we’re horribly mistreated.

    But when you take your angst for not being a princess out on every man by slutting in the bars and extorting drinks by flashing skin… if you get raped, it’s you own damn fault, and not a “real” man alive will give a flying fuck about how horrible you feel.

    That said, Dick is right. If someone we’re legitimatly raped, they would call the police. Because they do nothing about it, thereafore, they don’t really care.

  9. KellyMac Says:

    Rape - actual, real rape - is reprehensible. But false accusation of rape is far, far more common than the real thing. Also, when a woman is raped, she is very gently handled by the system, and everyone has great sympathy for her. Fine, there’s nothing wrong with that. But when a man is raped, he’s a laughingstock. And prison rape is treated like a big joke.

    I’ll go back and read Dick’s article now. My comment was because I found J.D.’s comment offensive in the extreme.

  10. Alex Says:

    @ Savant- “That said, Dick is right. If someone we’re legitimatly raped, they would call the police. Because they do nothing about it, thereafore, they don’t really care.”

    Not reporting a rape is not at all indicative of not caring about it. A woman who’s raped may be too ashamed or afraid to go to the police, or too traumatized by the rape to handle facing the rapist in court.

    Also, of course it isn’t illegal to dress provocatively. You expect there to be some sort of full-blown dress code enforced by law? But rape is a heinous assault and should be illegal regardless of what the person is wearing; a person doesn’t suddenly lose posession of their body depending on how they dress. If you don’t believe that in terms of women, what about men? If a gay man dresses flamboyantly, or very effeminately, and some bigots decide to beat him up for it, is it “his own damn fault”, or should he have a right to dress however he pleases without being physically attacked?

    @ KellyMac- Portions of Dick’s article are offensive in the extreme, and misogynistic.

  11. zogmama Says:

    “If 54% of rapes didn’t actually happen”

    Based on the fact that the accused rapist is not convicted. By that logic, OJ Simpson didn’t commit murder, either.

    “If it didn’t fit, you must acquit.”

    See? Dick even added a clue to the post. Let’s not forget Dick’s background.

    Do the math, folks. The statistics in the article are created out of whole cloth, and to top it off, the math doesn’t work. Dick’s pulling your leg. I’m sure he’ll sit back and chuckle at how bent people get over the whole thing.

  12. Ralohcs Denrael Says:

    Alex said:

    Not reporting a rape is not at all indicative of not caring about it. A woman who’s raped may be too ashamed or afraid to go to the police

    Thank you Alex for proving that rape is women’s fault. You can’t feel ashamed of something that is not your fault.

    Mostly 100% of women’s rape is the women’s fault. She put herself in that situation, and it’s her responsibility to accept. If I ride my bicycle on a tightrope without a net, I’m pretty much dead, and it’s not the rope-maker’s fault.

  13. Catherine Says:

    Ralohcs Denrael said:

    If I ride my bicycle on a tightrope without a net, I’m pretty much dead

    One can always hope.

  14. Savant Says:

    Alex said:

    If you don’t believe that in terms of women, what about men? If a gay man dresses flamboyantly, or very effeminately, and some bigots decide to beat him up for it, is it “his own damn fault”, or should he have a right to dress however he pleases without being physically attacked?
    .

    Actually, it is his fault. Regardless of sexual orientation, if you dress in ways that invite criticism, you can’t freak out when you receive it.

    Once again, thank you for bringing gay people into the mix. It is amazing to me how many women think that they will win any argument, simply by bringing gay men into it. Keep bigotry alive, Alex. Fight the power.

    Emotions are not factual. Just because you feel traumatized, does not constitute a good enough reason to forego descisive action. Women should at least be smart enough to realize that if you are a female rape victim, you will be coddled, fed sugar cookies and become a national hero complete with ticker tape parade.

    Thereafore, if a woman is going to choose not to report it, she’s either completely retarded, or knows it’s her fault.

    And yes. I think that a national dress code is a fine idea. As a matter of fact, thats probably the most brilliant thing you have ever said.

  15. Catherine Says:

    Savant said:

    And yes. I think that a national dress code is a fine idea. As a matter of fact, thats probably the most brilliant thing you have ever said.

    Na…really? Booooorring.

    What’s your real band, Savant?

  16. Savant Says:

    @Catherine…

    Do us a favor babe, and shut the bloody fuck up when people are trying to make actual points. Ralohcs Denrael made a very valid, and rather entertaining analogy.

  17. Savant Says:

    Listen to the radio.

  18. Catherine Says:

    Savant, Denrael is an ass. (Just in general, not cause of what he said here.)

    I do apologize for my earlier attacks on you - I was merely figuring some stuff out.

    I never listen to the radio. Unless it’s internet radio.

    My loss then - it was sincere interest. I love music.

  19. john card Says:

    hi dick:

    great post as always.

    hey dick, u might as well video yourself reading your post. and if u r really playing the piano, then show yourself playing.

    not that u really need to, but i think it would be kool.

    u know that u will sooner or later anyway.

    keep up the great work.

    dick, every word in your posts r 100% true in my eyes, no matter what my girlfriend says.

    cheers.

  20. Savant Says:

    Are you on myspace? You should send me an invite.

    Apologies are not needed. I simply ask that one use logic prior to emotion.

    Just for equailities sake… haha… when men’s emotions are validated, we get things like war… gang violence…. murder… the typical “not showing me respect” thing. Emotions are for personal use only… mitigating circumstances aside. And typically, there are none.

  21. Alex Says:

    “Thank you Alex for proving that rape is women’s fault. You can’t feel ashamed of something that is not your fault.”

    Of course you can. It’s an illogical and irrational way to feel, but plenty of people would. You wouldn’t be ashamed if you got raped?

    And rape is not the fault of the victim. No crime is the fault of the victim. Almost everyone, at some point in their life, makes a poor decision that puts them in a vulnerable position in some way (winding up in a bad area, ignoring suspicions that something is off, whatever). Whether or not someone gets mugged, raped, killed, etc. because of it, depends on whether there is a thief/rapist/killer present. The tight-rope analogy doesn’t work because obviously riding a bike on a tight-rope is incredibly dangerous, and it is very likely you will fall. But I assume you think highly enough of men to know that the vast majority aren’t rapists. Most likely, a rape victim could have walked down that shady area 1000 times and been fine, but that 1001st time there was a rapist present, so the outcome was rape. People need to realize they aren’t invincible and act accordingly, but if they do not, the criminal is still fully responsible for his (or her) actions.

    “Actually, it is his fault. Regardless of sexual orientation, if you dress in ways that invite criticism, you can’t freak out when you receive it. ”

    Of course you invite criticism. A woman who dresses slutty should expect people will think she’s a slut, maybe treat her with less respect, make lude comments, whatever. And it’s perfectly within those people’s rights to think she’s a slut, and treat her with less respect, and make lude comments. It isn’t within their rights to rape her. A person has rights to their own body, and that can’t be taken away by others based on how they’re dressed. You can not beat someone up or rape them because of how they look. And, by the way, I am not a bigot. I used the example of a gay man because the men here are more sympathetic to other men, so it’s a better way to illustrate my point. I used a gay man rather than a straight one, because there have been many cases of gay men being beat for looking or acting effeminate.

  22. Savant Says:

    @Alex…
    People don’t walk up to flambouyantly-dressed gay men and beat them up for being gay. They beat them up for being flambouyantly dressed. You can’t tell if a man is gay or not by how he dresses. You can only tell if he’s having sex, or if he tells you. Than the choice in clothing makes no difference.

    I never said that rape in any case was right. I meant that certain situations were understandable. Certainly, undeserving women get raped. But you increase odds by throwing tail out on the menu. They may be the victim, but it’s still their bloody fault.

  23. Female Says:

    Alex, don’t let Savant bait you, because unless he thinks all women should wear one-eyed burkas (where if you wink, they’ll only think you blinked), he’s just flamboyantly lying his ass off. Also, the whole ‘blame the rape on the women’s clothing’ is just illogical. If we believe this, then we must also believe that women in Afghanistan are never raped, when in fact, that’s probably one country where it is more likely to happen.

  24. KellyMac Says:

    Actually, guys, it is a fact that if a woman is raped (and I’m still talking about for-real rape here), her first impulse will be to take a million showers, burn whatever she was wearing and try to pretend it never happened. Never forget, we women are emotional creatures. She will just want it to be behind her.

    That being said, however, I still believe most accusations of rape are either out-and-out lies, or cases of morning-after regrets.

  25. Chris Says:

    I wore tight jeans once night and my wife grabbed my ass!
    Outrage. Shock. Shame.
    Call the police.

  26. Doubt Says:

    Aye, it’s a rape of the word ‘rape.’ And there’s no repercussions for a false accusation of rape, nooo, our little ‘dancers’ and ‘no-touchie-touchies’ must be protected at all cost. If it means 1,000 more African children - erm, boys, boys - must die to finance their lifestyles (cuz diamond necklaces and Barbie slippers are so kawaii), fuck them, just don’t think about it.
    That’s the ultimate solution, isn’t it? Shoot the messenger, bleach your mind, force the world to envelope your bubble. As long as fresh air isn’t an issue - deprivation kills brain cells, you know.
    Really, though, girls who falsely accuse men of rape, such as the immature little slut involved in the Duke case (she got off, didn’t she?), should find themselves jailed for at least 5 years. 5 years to let the potential consequences of their actions sink in. And not in a special gurlz’ prison, either. She should enjoy the same lifestyle and financing that the men she imprisoned do; and their cases should be automatically re-examined if she is merely suspected of such an offense. As in they should leave on bail if there is even a sliver of doubt as to their guilt, and the slut (I assure you she is, it’s just putting it on paper) arouses suspicion.

  27. Female Says:

    Chris, I hope you’ve recovered and managed to put this incident behind you. Time heals all wounds.

  28. Chris Says:

    @ Female
    Thanks. I was tramautized for years. Believe me.
    But I still have trouble wearing my cheetah-skin thong when she’s around. The woman is insatiable!

  29. Alexander Says:

    I knew two girls who claimed to be “raped”. One was “felt up” by two boys on a water slide. She was 8, and the boys were around 10 or younger. I doubt this counts, as the crime is mediocre and the boys aren’t at an age when that would seem like a bad thing to do.

    The second girl had sex with her boyfriend while she was voluntarily sleeping in his bed, naked. The next day, something she read in a magazine convinced her that this was somehow rape, and she broke up with him.

    Both girls use these as the central dramas of their lives. I have sympathy for neither.

  30. Female Says:

    Chris, you party boy, even on the slightest chance that you expose yourself because you want to be groped, which I highly doubt by the way, it’s good you can see it’s not what you need.

  31. Ralohcs Denrael Says:

    Savant said:

    Emotions are not factual. Just because you feel traumatized, does not constitute a good enough reason

    That is exactly the point. People feel sorts of crap these days, and they translate that into entitlement.

    Catherine said:

    Savant, Denrael is an ass.

    It’s not my fault you don’t know your own heritage.

    Don’t get your blood-stained panties all in a bunch because I haven’t been paying you any attention. I’m not your boyfriend. I would never be your boyfriend. I’m not even abusive enough to qualify.

    Alex said:

    “Thank you Alex for proving that rape is women’s fault. You can’t feel ashamed of something that is not your fault.”

    Of course you can. It’s an illogical and irrational way to feel, but plenty of people would. You wouldn’t be ashamed if you got raped?

    I would be extremely ashamed if I allowed myself to get raped. Thanks for proving my point.

    You still don’t get it, do you…

    You don’t even see the wall in front of you, do you?

    You wouldn’t see the word “STUPID” if it was marked backward in black marker on your forehead in the morning.

    And you still can’t figure out how to write something in italics on this forum.

    And rape is not the fault of the victim. No crime is the fault of the victim.

    ***No crime is the fault of the victim?***

    HOW DARE YOU!!!

    THIS IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS THOUGHT PROCESS!

    ALEX, YOU ARE DUMBER THAN FUCK-ALL. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, YOU DESERVE TO FUCKING DIE, AND I HOPE YOU REPEAT THAT TO YOURSELF EVERY DAY.

    HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THAT VICTIMS PLAY NO PART IN THEIR FORTUNES? IS NO ACHIEVEMENT ATTRIBUTABLE TO HARD WORK, BUT MERELY LUCK? DID MONEY FALL OUT OF THE FUCKING STRATOSPHERE INTO BILL GATE’S LAP? IS EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO US IN THIS LIFE A COMPLETE RANDOM STROKE OF LUCK?

    THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF WHY OUR SOCIETY IS SO FUCKED UP. BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE ALEX, AND TEACH ALEX TO THINK THIS WAY, AND THE ALEXES OF THE WORLD WHO TEACH OTHER FUTURE VICTIMS TO THINK LIKE THIS.

    The man who owns MacDonalds is responsible for coffee spills!
    Male Oncologists are responsible for cancer deaths!
    Fathers are financially responsible for their girlfriend’s bastard children!
    College men are responsible for slut’s feelings of shame and regret!

    It is ALWAYS a MAN’S fault!

    YOU ARE ONE DUMB FUCKING IDIOT. GO DIE.

    What do you expect from a girl who sees a sign “no women allowed” and then walks right in. It’s girls like you who walk right into rape situations. Because you go where you don’t belong.

    This is the shit our daughters are learning. This is the shit our potential girlfriends are learning. This is why good men go gay. Girls learn that THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, FEELINGS, AND THEIR MISFORTUNES. THAT THERE IS AALLWWAAYYSS A MAN TO BLAME FOR THEIR IDIOCY.

    ALEX, GO FUCKING DIE YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT.

    And rape is not the fault of the victim. No crime is the fault of the victim.

    So, in other words, instead of hurt me once, shame on you, hurt me twice, shame on me, in Alex’s world, it’s

    hurt me once, shame on you
    hurt me twice, shame on you
    hurt me three times, shame on you
    hurt me four times, shame on you
    hurt me five times, shame on you
    hurt me ten times, shame on you
    hurt me one hundred times, shame on you
    hurt me one thousand times, shame on you
    hurt me always, shame on you

    Alex, you’re the type of arrogant girl who will end up getting raped. My daughter will never get herself raped. And both those situations have nothing to do with “luck”.

    Alex, let me say that you absolutely deserve the “luck” that awaits you, and I hope you remember 15 years from now that Ralohcs Denrael told you that 15 years ago.

    Most likely, a rape victim could have walked down that shady area 1000 times and been fine, but that 1001st time there was a rapist present

    The day you get raped, I want you to remember when you argued with me about “walking alone”. Do you remember what you said to me? We had this discussion a month ago. When he’s tearing apart your already worthless trash-can vagina, raping the shit out of you, I want you to remember that you ARGUED with ME about walking alone.

    Women don’t belong outside the home alone. And getting raped isn’t misfortune, it’s natures way of making sure you girls get that into your fucking heads. It’s natural selection, which is a good thing.

    The tight-rope analogy doesn’t work because obviously riding a bike on a tight-rope is incredibly dangerous, and it is very likely you will fall.

    That’s EXACTLY why it works, you worthless sperm-receptacle. God, you are dumber than grass. You are dumber than igneous rock. You’re dumber than a man who resorts to insults because he lost an argument. You’re dumber than the color red. You’re dumber than my worst-smelling farts. You are dumber than FUCK-ALL!

  32. sonyad Says:

    Chris said:

    @ Female
    Thanks. I was tramautized for years. Believe me.
    But I still have trouble wearing my cheetah-skin thong when she’s around. The woman is insatiable!

    Easy there, Chris. You’re getting Female hot under the collar.
    Wouldn’t want that, now would you?

    - giuseppe ottaviani - through your eyes

  33. sonyad Says:

    Ral, are you quite finished? Yes? Already?

    Here then, have another.

    - giuseppe ottaviani - through your eyes

  34. Female Says:

    True Sonyad, he certainly pushed all the right buttons, funny, traumatized and in need of nurturing, cheeky, affable and already taken. It’s not hard to see why his wife can’t leave him alone. How could any woman resist? With any luck, he’ll hang around and offer some more pointers.

  35. diamatik Says:

    Catherine said:

    Savant, Denrael is an ass.

    Hhmph.

  36. sonyad Says:

    Gluttonous, racist ass.

    - Restless & Volatile feat. Brenda - When I’m With You (Tom Short Electro Remix)

  37. Chris Says:

    sonyad said:

    Chris said:

    @ Female
    Thanks. I was tramautized for years. Believe me.
    But I still have trouble wearing my cheetah-skin thong when she’s around. The woman is insatiable!

    Easy there, Chris. You’re getting Female hot under the collar.
    Wouldn’t want that, now would you?

    - giuseppe ottaviani - through your eyes

    Hot? No, not under the collar, certainly.
    In any case, not to worry: I’ve had to tone down my appearance since it was getting me into trouble and quite honestly I needed the sleep. No more mullet cut; no more mustache; no more red Speedos. The Quebecois “look” was too much for her! :)

  38. Mortépée (Necroswordsman) Says:

    Anything i can say about this has been said in my blog in the article entitled rape.

    Go read peeps. http://www.decayingsword.mabtw.com

    KellyMac said:

    That being said, however, I still believe most accusations of rape are either out-and-out lies, or cases of morning-after regrets.

    Or people not being careful.

    Frankly you want to get drunk, pass out and allow yourself to be used without your consent, go ahead. Just dont moan about it afterwards.

  39. MansVoice Says:

    Excellent post Ralohcs Denrael. I like the way in which you just bashed, trashed, kicked the shit outta Alex(that bitch) ass. Yes, women like Alex… those arrogant bitches … will get themselves raped. They like to think themselves “superior”, “powerful… blah blah blah crap. When she gets raped, I wont have symapthy for her. In fact, it might be the thing which can kill off her ego.

    You think the world revolves around your dumb bitch ass?

  40. zogmama Says:

    @Mort/Necro: Good choice of weapon. Are you a fencer? If you are, you know that the epee is the way to go. Everything but the head is your target.

  41. MansVoice Says:

    Zog, you seem like a decent enough woman so whats your issue, really?

  42. Catherine Says:

    MansVoice said:

    Zog, you seem like a decent enough woman so whats your issue, really?

    That’s what I want to know! :)

  43. Alex Says:

    You skirted around an important question. Do you not believe the vast majority of men are not rapists? You act as if every man who sees a woman alone will rape her.

    Also, I said no CRIME was the fault of the victim. The other examples you used (McDonalds, etc.) aren’t crimes. Crimes are the fault of the criminal and not the victim because it is the CRIMINAL committing the morally wrong/illegal act. You are the one who seems to advocate avoiding responsibility by putting ALL the blame on the victim for the crime. (You claimed 100% of rapes were the victim’s fault). A rapist can not say, “But her skirt was too short!” as a defense. It is the RESPONSIBILITY of people to not commit crimes.

    Everything I said also has nothing to do with gender. If a woman rapes a boy/man, it is her fault, not the victim’s. If a woman kills someone, it is her fault, not the victim’s. I never claimed women should be able to blame men for their problems, only that if a crime were committed against them, it is the criminal’s fault. Same of men. Gender is irrelevant.

    Lastly, I highly doubt I will be raped. I don’t walk alone at night, I’m wary of sketchy situations, I avoid bad areas, I don’t drink myself into a stupor, I’m generally very cautious. I just don’t blame victims for rape if they aren’t as cautious as I am. Your wishing rape and death on me was completely disgusting and uncalled for.

  44. KellyMac Says:

    There’s a huge difference between what IS and what SHOULD BE. If a woman rapes a man, yes, it is her fault, and she SHOULD BE punished as if the genders were reversed. But she IS NOT. That’s the point.

    Also, victims are not really to blame for crimes committed against them. That much is true. However, some people are more likely to be victimized than others, and that is directly their own fault.

  45. MansVoice Says:

    A good read: http://dontmarry.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/cant-find-a-good-man-blame-f eminism/

    And Alex, he wished rape upon you because you were being a bitch and an arrogant fuck. Know why the men are not talking to you, going out on dates with you? Yeah, thats why. Because you always get on that high ass cloud of yours and proclaim things. No one here gives a fuck about your rant but we give a fuck when you come in here and you demand we care. It seems rape will be the cure to your pompous and oversized ego. Men are your slaves? Far far from it.

  46. MansVoice Says:

    @ Kelly: Perfectly to the point. If a man genuinely rapes a woman, I be the first to punch him. You know what they do in prisons to rapists? They fucking torture them. Yes, its true if you dont know Alex/other feminist whores. Men have something, unlike women, called a code of honor. We mete out justice and fairness. When something is wrong, we openly admit it. Take the BYU eg posted in my above URL. The soccer players got caught with their pants down and admitted despite the fact that they may get expelled. Thats manly and thats something what women will never be. Instead, they choose to be “victim bunnies”. Boohoooooo. CRY CRY CRY. Hahahahah.

  47. Alex Says:

    @ Mansvoice- You misinterpret what I say if you think I’m arrogant or have a big ego. ALL I meant is that criminals are to blame for their crimes. Hardly a controversial viewpoint.

  48. Alex Says:

    Also, where did I ever imply ANYTHING about men being my ’slaves’?

  49. zogmama Says:

    Huh?

  50. MansVoice Says:

    I am fine with criminals being punished. You just seem to assume that the victims themselves are pure and innocent especially for one such as rape. Most genuine rapes occur at parties where women get drunk, doped etc. The rapist then gets punished, sentenced to jail etc. Fair enough. The point is this, however, that the women knowingly go to these “wild parties” where the probability of rape is… astoundingly high? Then again, on the stats, only 16% of women report “rape”? Were they really raped or were they ashamed that they were being sluts and cummed on?

    I dont think we misinterpreted you. Keep in mind that this is a man’s forum; the same that it is a man’s world. When you say something, phrase it appropriately and maybe just maybe, you will get a proper response back. Thats the problem with you feminists. You seem to think that you own this god’damn world. The thing is, you dont. Men do so hush when the big boys are talking.

  51. zogmama Says:

    @MansVoice: To whom are you addressing your last post? Ack. Never mind. I’ll leave it at ‘huh?’