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	<title>Comments on: Spitzer to American Women: Lighten the Fuck Up</title>
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	<description>Are men better than women?   Yes.</description>
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		<title>By: P Coderch</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-274549</link>
		<dc:creator>P Coderch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Kelly B" proves by her responses that women are all crypto-sociopaths at heart. Her combination of egocentrism and a pseudo-moral sense of self-righteousness makes for a dangerous combination, I must say. How can women be at the same time so self-centered and vain and yet believe that they are kind people who are morally superior and that by exploiting men and leaching of them they are "helping" them? Can self-delusion be taken to such an extreme degree, or is it sheer callous cynicism? I take the latter option.

P Coderch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kelly B&#8221; proves by her responses that women are all crypto-sociopaths at heart. Her combination of egocentrism and a pseudo-moral sense of self-righteousness makes for a dangerous combination, I must say. How can women be at the same time so self-centered and vain and yet believe that they are kind people who are morally superior and that by exploiting men and leaching of them they are &#8220;helping&#8221; them? Can self-delusion be taken to such an extreme degree, or is it sheer callous cynicism? I take the latter option.</p>
<p>P Coderch</p>
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		<title>By: Krissa</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-254790</link>
		<dc:creator>Krissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm neither of the 2. It's not women, it's the television set. Open a book. 

Why are so many men keeping it alive to make money? alot of these women whether you like it or not actually have to feed children. Some want to hit it rich. Men steal others ideas in business to get rich. Grown up men and real women see that problem in humanity, not a select group of people. 
My father actually to be honest has never been much of one when I was young, he was  a drug addict running off...He left right after I was born, the same goes for mothers leaving their children. 

People have problems. I never advocated prostitution,  I never was illiterate. I'm sorry but you are around too many people at your level. You notice these women and have probably never been around a real one, nor had a good women image in your life. I had a good brother and a good uncle to help me get a good male image. If you hate women so much , stop going back to the wrong kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m neither of the 2. It&#8217;s not women, it&#8217;s the television set. Open a book. </p>
<p>Why are so many men keeping it alive to make money? alot of these women whether you like it or not actually have to feed children. Some want to hit it rich. Men steal others ideas in business to get rich. Grown up men and real women see that problem in humanity, not a select group of people.<br />
My father actually to be honest has never been much of one when I was young, he was  a drug addict running off&#8230;He left right after I was born, the same goes for mothers leaving their children. </p>
<p>People have problems. I never advocated prostitution,  I never was illiterate. I&#8217;m sorry but you are around too many people at your level. You notice these women and have probably never been around a real one, nor had a good women image in your life. I had a good brother and a good uncle to help me get a good male image. If you hate women so much , stop going back to the wrong kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Manny Manson</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-233965</link>
		<dc:creator>Manny Manson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite website in the world so far. So much truth only a man could write this.</description>
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		<title>By: Doubt</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-222200</link>
		<dc:creator>Doubt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She's shit at technology. We are right, another bucket of evidence goes into the reservoir of truth.</description>
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		<title>By: MansVoice</title>
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		<dc:creator>MansVoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sarah: &lt;b&gt; No women allowed; no stupid questions either.&lt;/b&gt;

Gtfo.</description>
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<p>Gtfo.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-222177</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221424" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dick Masterson said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221375" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nicole said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Honest question here....in previous posts Dick said all women are cheating whores, and it was clear from the post he meant that as an insult and not a quality to be admired.   So why then is Spitzer glorified for cheating?    &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow, you couldn't answer that perfctly reasonable question so you resorted to an insult. Good job.

Woman, fuck off my website.

-Dick&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>Honest question here&#8230;.in previous posts Dick said all women are cheating whores, and it was clear from the post he meant that as an insult and not a quality to be admired.   So why then is Spitzer glorified for cheating?    </p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, you couldn&#8217;t answer that perfctly reasonable question so you resorted to an insult. Good job.</p>
<p>Woman, fuck off my website.</p>
<p>-Dick</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So adultery is only ok when men do it?</description>
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		<title>By: Arbalest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arbalest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gwallian. and yeah, I could have sworn I saw it in book form, I'll look for it again if I get the chance. But if it was, the chances of it being gone is quite low. A black book with the title in gold letters on the end...hopefully it'll have that part in there instead of it being edited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gwallian. and yeah, I could have sworn I saw it in book form, I&#8217;ll look for it again if I get the chance. But if it was, the chances of it being gone is quite low. A black book with the title in gold letters on the end&#8230;hopefully it&#8217;ll have that part in there instead of it being edited.</p>
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		<title>By: gwallan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwallan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221441" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Arbalest said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
 
Hey, gwallian. I noticed my local library had that book in store. I'm thinking of buying it to see how bad it really is, so could you tell me what chapter that good rape story is? I mean, I don't doubt it's actually in there, I'm just surprised someone could write it and the public never really noticed it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
What? They have the Vagina Monologues in book form? I was unaware of that. Thought it was only a stage production.
 
The "good rape" is in a scene called "The little coochie snorter that could". It depicts the alcohol based "seduction" of a thirteen year old girl by a woman. The final line of the scene is "if it was a rape, it was a good rape".
 
The play is sometimes staged without that scene or with a sixteen year old rather than a thirteen year old.
 
If you hadn't realised I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about child sexual abuse and the constant lies told by feminists about it. Their advocacy, in my mind, actually serves to perpetuate the problem and the shape of the feminist ideologically based services set up to help victims actually cause many of those victims more grief. The motivation behind much of the feminist advocacy in the field was always more about tarring men than helping victims.


&lt;b&gt;@kelly...&lt;/b&gt;

What you've experienced here is much the same as the treatment doled out to visitors to numerous feminist websites. The notable difference is that here you weren't banned. While you may be relentlessly attacked nobody tries to formally silence you. In fact your resilience in the face of those attacks wins respect as often as not. 

Respect is a far more important commodity among men than many women realise. Women come together by sharing their stories. Your communication here can often be typecast in this way as your most recent post demonstrates. Men, however, constantly test one another. It's borne of a history throughout which the strength of ones compatriots was critical to ones survival in so many ways. This was never as essential to women as their safety tended to rely on the strength of the men around them.

I wonder if it's possible for you to empathise with the men in western culture in that half century I referred to earlier? If you recall your response was &lt;i&gt;"You are upset over 50 years? Ha! Women have been oppressed and treated like dogs way long than 50 years"&lt;/i&gt;. This is quite typical of the manner in which men voices are silenced in a myriad of ways. Imagine how somebody such as myself - a victim of sexual abuse by a woman - feels at hearing "all men are rapists"? It's almost as though there's an attitude that men are made of granite, that they simply can't be hurt. 

Australian gender commentator Bettina Arndt said "the real tragedy of life is that men love women, women love children and children love hamsters". It's probably one of the most accurate summations of the human condition that I've heard. In truth the man who hurts a woman, much rarer than feminists would have you believe, is actually suffering a severe break from both his conditioning and instincts. We often hear of the woman who murders her partner that they "snapped". This is far more true of the men who hurt women than the reverse. Remember that women are not conditioned to protect men. In fact in western culture the woman who hurts a man is frequently cheered and almost always exonerated.  Lorena Bobbit ring a bell? Mary Winkler?

The issue of the oppression of women is quite debatable notwithstanding it's having seeped into the culture as some kind of truism. It's why I referred you to the gendercide.org website. As I said the truest indicator of oppression is always death. In truth women have been relatively safe and protected compared to men through much of our history. Current genetic and DNA research is demonstrating that twice as many women as men have reproduced throughout the entirity of the species' existence. Does it really make sense that the oppressor class - men - has always been expected to give their lives to protect the oppressed class? Can you cite any other oppressor/oppressee situation where that has occurred?

MABTW is the very sharp edge of a rapidly growing wedge among a disenfranchised and marginalised class human beings. That class of human beings are...

Ninety five percent of the homeless.
Three quarters of the victims of violence.
Eighty five percent of suicides(90% among teenagers).
Live between five and ten years less.
Forty percent of admissions to further education.
Told on a daily basis that they are the source of all evil, that they are oppressors and are privileged.

And I could go on. The point is I bet you're not even aware of most of these things. Imagine the outrage if any of those were true for women. There would be much hand wringing and screeching from rooftops that men are to blame and that millions in government largesse must be found to address these "oppressions". 

If you want a more reasoned, or possibly less sharp, equivalent I'd suggest having a look at Glenn Sacks blog. In the meantime your presence, and that of virtually all female contributors, here only serves to sharpen that edge. Particularly so when much of it devolves to attempted shaming of men. The men here are well onto that game and every further installment merely sharpens their resolve.</description>
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<p>Hey, gwallian. I noticed my local library had that book in store. I&#8217;m thinking of buying it to see how bad it really is, so could you tell me what chapter that good rape story is? I mean, I don&#8217;t doubt it&#8217;s actually in there, I&#8217;m just surprised someone could write it and the public never really noticed it.</p></blockquote>
<p>What? They have the Vagina Monologues in book form? I was unaware of that. Thought it was only a stage production.</p>
<p>The &#8220;good rape&#8221; is in a scene called &#8220;The little coochie snorter that could&#8221;. It depicts the alcohol based &#8220;seduction&#8221; of a thirteen year old girl by a woman. The final line of the scene is &#8220;if it was a rape, it was a good rape&#8221;.</p>
<p>The play is sometimes staged without that scene or with a sixteen year old rather than a thirteen year old.</p>
<p>If you hadn&#8217;t realised I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about child sexual abuse and the constant lies told by feminists about it. Their advocacy, in my mind, actually serves to perpetuate the problem and the shape of the feminist ideologically based services set up to help victims actually cause many of those victims more grief. The motivation behind much of the feminist advocacy in the field was always more about tarring men than helping victims.</p>
<p><b>@kelly&#8230;</b></p>
<p>What you&#8217;ve experienced here is much the same as the treatment doled out to visitors to numerous feminist websites. The notable difference is that here you weren&#8217;t banned. While you may be relentlessly attacked nobody tries to formally silence you. In fact your resilience in the face of those attacks wins respect as often as not. </p>
<p>Respect is a far more important commodity among men than many women realise. Women come together by sharing their stories. Your communication here can often be typecast in this way as your most recent post demonstrates. Men, however, constantly test one another. It&#8217;s borne of a history throughout which the strength of ones compatriots was critical to ones survival in so many ways. This was never as essential to women as their safety tended to rely on the strength of the men around them.</p>
<p>I wonder if it&#8217;s possible for you to empathise with the men in western culture in that half century I referred to earlier? If you recall your response was <i>&#8220;You are upset over 50 years? Ha! Women have been oppressed and treated like dogs way long than 50 years&#8221;</i>. This is quite typical of the manner in which men voices are silenced in a myriad of ways. Imagine how somebody such as myself - a victim of sexual abuse by a woman - feels at hearing &#8220;all men are rapists&#8221;? It&#8217;s almost as though there&#8217;s an attitude that men are made of granite, that they simply can&#8217;t be hurt. </p>
<p>Australian gender commentator Bettina Arndt said &#8220;the real tragedy of life is that men love women, women love children and children love hamsters&#8221;. It&#8217;s probably one of the most accurate summations of the human condition that I&#8217;ve heard. In truth the man who hurts a woman, much rarer than feminists would have you believe, is actually suffering a severe break from both his conditioning and instincts. We often hear of the woman who murders her partner that they &#8220;snapped&#8221;. This is far more true of the men who hurt women than the reverse. Remember that women are not conditioned to protect men. In fact in western culture the woman who hurts a man is frequently cheered and almost always exonerated.  Lorena Bobbit ring a bell? Mary Winkler?</p>
<p>The issue of the oppression of women is quite debatable notwithstanding it&#8217;s having seeped into the culture as some kind of truism. It&#8217;s why I referred you to the gendercide.org website. As I said the truest indicator of oppression is always death. In truth women have been relatively safe and protected compared to men through much of our history. Current genetic and DNA research is demonstrating that twice as many women as men have reproduced throughout the entirity of the species&#8217; existence. Does it really make sense that the oppressor class - men - has always been expected to give their lives to protect the oppressed class? Can you cite any other oppressor/oppressee situation where that has occurred?</p>
<p>MABTW is the very sharp edge of a rapidly growing wedge among a disenfranchised and marginalised class human beings. That class of human beings are&#8230;</p>
<p>Ninety five percent of the homeless.<br />
Three quarters of the victims of violence.<br />
Eighty five percent of suicides(90% among teenagers).<br />
Live between five and ten years less.<br />
Forty percent of admissions to further education.<br />
Told on a daily basis that they are the source of all evil, that they are oppressors and are privileged.</p>
<p>And I could go on. The point is I bet you&#8217;re not even aware of most of these things. Imagine the outrage if any of those were true for women. There would be much hand wringing and screeching from rooftops that men are to blame and that millions in government largesse must be found to address these &#8220;oppressions&#8221;. </p>
<p>If you want a more reasoned, or possibly less sharp, equivalent I&#8217;d suggest having a look at Glenn Sacks blog. In the meantime your presence, and that of virtually all female contributors, here only serves to sharpen that edge. Particularly so when much of it devolves to attempted shaming of men. The men here are well onto that game and every further installment merely sharpens their resolve.</p>
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		<title>By: Hellationships</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellationships</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with the fact that he's fucking a prostitute. More power to him. More power to her. Keep the hustle going. 

I have a problem he was using governments money to pay for high priced pussy. I know more than a few girls who give him some ass for a date at TGI Fridays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with the fact that he&#8217;s fucking a prostitute. More power to him. More power to her. Keep the hustle going. </p>
<p>I have a problem he was using governments money to pay for high priced pussy. I know more than a few girls who give him some ass for a date at TGI Fridays.</p>
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		<title>By: indian</title>
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		<dc:creator>indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221429" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kelly B said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

@ Gwallan (and only Gwallan so no one else respond to me because I will only ignore you)-
 
I'm not "running away" I just feel like I argue in circles on here and it's just frustrating me too much and I feel like I am not going to get through to anyone no matter how hard I try so I decided to leave, or at least to stop posting. I'm not really sure which posts you are referring to when I was supposedly referring to ALL men but I would never generalize ALL men into one category because I know not ALL men are the same, the same way I know not ALL women are the same. And to make a long story short, I am completely aware of some of the injustices men face regarding feminism etc, BUT I am also aware of some of the challenges many women face. I am not on one side or the another, although being a woman I can at least know what it is like to feel those injustices first hand. And as a man, you felt injustices first hand as well. Whether the men on this site want to admit or not women HAVE been put through shit and continue to be put through shit. I personally have been deserted by my own FATHER, my mother was almost killed by a MAN (random break in), I was almost raped by a MAN at age 4, I have felt the constant pressures of trying to look "good" for MEN, my GRANDFATHER was an alcoholic who beat my grandmother... like I could go on all day BUT the point is that I have felt a lot of pain due to MEN but I'm not out to attack them either. 

And I dont have a singular perspective, I just felt that I could actually RELATE to a lot of the monologues presented in the "Vagina Monologues." And it's more than "spewing hate" actually if you view it as "spewing hate" then you are reading into incorrectly. I'm not here to hate men, I don't hate men, I love men, I love all types of human beings, I just cannot handle this website anymore. I come on here and get called every name in the book, and called a liar for presenting anything about myself. It's just a really negative atmosphere. It would be totally different if the men on here wanted to sit down and discuss actual issues and their points of view where they personally have felt victimized, then I would listen. BUT, they don't. They come on here and use the words "cunt and fuck" excessively and call all women whores and say we are only good for fucking. We are stupid, yada yada blah blah blah, non-sense really. 

So if you would like to have a conversation, then fine whatever, but I don't want to argue over the same stupid things anymore. And I refuse to talk to anyone else on this site. You and "no manhole" are the onle males on this site who seem to have any common sense. So yeah, message me if you want to. Bye.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Women trying to show herself as a poor victim.She should be working for national organization for women.</description>
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<p>@ Gwallan (and only Gwallan so no one else respond to me because I will only ignore you)-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;running away&#8221; I just feel like I argue in circles on here and it&#8217;s just frustrating me too much and I feel like I am not going to get through to anyone no matter how hard I try so I decided to leave, or at least to stop posting. I&#8217;m not really sure which posts you are referring to when I was supposedly referring to ALL men but I would never generalize ALL men into one category because I know not ALL men are the same, the same way I know not ALL women are the same. And to make a long story short, I am completely aware of some of the injustices men face regarding feminism etc, BUT I am also aware of some of the challenges many women face. I am not on one side or the another, although being a woman I can at least know what it is like to feel those injustices first hand. And as a man, you felt injustices first hand as well. Whether the men on this site want to admit or not women HAVE been put through shit and continue to be put through shit. I personally have been deserted by my own FATHER, my mother was almost killed by a MAN (random break in), I was almost raped by a MAN at age 4, I have felt the constant pressures of trying to look &#8220;good&#8221; for MEN, my GRANDFATHER was an alcoholic who beat my grandmother&#8230; like I could go on all day BUT the point is that I have felt a lot of pain due to MEN but I&#8217;m not out to attack them either. </p>
<p>And I dont have a singular perspective, I just felt that I could actually RELATE to a lot of the monologues presented in the &#8220;Vagina Monologues.&#8221; And it&#8217;s more than &#8220;spewing hate&#8221; actually if you view it as &#8220;spewing hate&#8221; then you are reading into incorrectly. I&#8217;m not here to hate men, I don&#8217;t hate men, I love men, I love all types of human beings, I just cannot handle this website anymore. I come on here and get called every name in the book, and called a liar for presenting anything about myself. It&#8217;s just a really negative atmosphere. It would be totally different if the men on here wanted to sit down and discuss actual issues and their points of view where they personally have felt victimized, then I would listen. BUT, they don&#8217;t. They come on here and use the words &#8220;cunt and fuck&#8221; excessively and call all women whores and say we are only good for fucking. We are stupid, yada yada blah blah blah, non-sense really. </p>
<p>So if you would like to have a conversation, then fine whatever, but I don&#8217;t want to argue over the same stupid things anymore. And I refuse to talk to anyone else on this site. You and &#8220;no manhole&#8221; are the onle males on this site who seem to have any common sense. So yeah, message me if you want to. Bye.</p></blockquote>
<p>Women trying to show herself as a poor victim.She should be working for national organization for women.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbalest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arbalest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, gwallian. I noticed my local library had that book in store. I'm thinking of buying it to see how bad it really is, so could you tell me what chapter that good rape story is? I mean, I don't doubt it's actually in there, I'm just surprised someone could write it and the public never really noticed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, gwallian. I noticed my local library had that book in store. I&#8217;m thinking of buying it to see how bad it really is, so could you tell me what chapter that good rape story is? I mean, I don&#8217;t doubt it&#8217;s actually in there, I&#8217;m just surprised someone could write it and the public never really noticed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzalon</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-221440</link>
		<dc:creator>Muzalon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221429" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kelly B said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

@ Gwallan (and only Gwallan so no one else respond to me because I will only ignore you)-
 
I'm not "running away" I just feel like I argue in circles on here and it's just frustrating me too much and I feel like I am not going to get through to anyone no matter how hard I try so I decided to leave, or at least to stop posting. I'm not really sure which posts you are referring to when I was supposedly referring to ALL men but I would never generalize ALL men into one category because I know not ALL men are the same, the same way I know not ALL women are the same. And to make a long story short, I am completely aware of some of the injustices men face regarding feminism etc, BUT I am also aware of some of the challenges many women face. I am not on one side or the another, although being a woman I can at least know what it is like to feel those injustices first hand. And as a man, you felt injustices first hand as well. Whether the men on this site want to admit or not women HAVE been put through shit and continue to be put through shit. I personally have been deserted by my own FATHER, my mother was almost killed by a MAN (random break in), I was almost raped by a MAN at age 4, I have felt the constant pressures of trying to look "good" for MEN, my GRANDFATHER was an alcoholic who beat my grandmother... like I could go on all day BUT the point is that I have felt a lot of pain due to MEN but I'm not out to attack them either. 

And I dont have a singular perspective, I just felt that I could actually RELATE to a lot of the monologues presented in the "Vagina Monologues." And it's more than "spewing hate" actually if you view it as "spewing hate" then you are reading into incorrectly. I'm not here to hate men, I don't hate men, I love men, I love all types of human beings, I just cannot handle this website anymore. I come on here and get called every name in the book, and called a liar for presenting anything about myself. It's just a really negative atmosphere. It would be totally different if the men on here wanted to sit down and discuss actual issues and their points of view where they personally have felt victimized, then I would listen. BUT, they don't. They come on here and use the words "cunt and fuck" excessively and call all women whores and say we are only good for fucking. We are stupid, yada yada blah blah blah, non-sense really. 

So if you would like to have a conversation, then fine whatever, but I don't want to argue over the same stupid things anymore. And I refuse to talk to anyone else on this site. You and "no manhole" are the onle males on this site who seem to have any common sense. So yeah, message me if you want to. Bye.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have you got your application for Border's ready yet? For after your 'graduation' in advanced flower-arranging...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-221429" title="View the original comment"><em>Kelly B said:</em></a></p>
<p>@ Gwallan (and only Gwallan so no one else respond to me because I will only ignore you)-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;running away&#8221; I just feel like I argue in circles on here and it&#8217;s just frustrating me too much and I feel like I am not going to get through to anyone no matter how hard I try so I decided to leave, or at least to stop posting. I&#8217;m not really sure which posts you are referring to when I was supposedly referring to ALL men but I would never generalize ALL men into one category because I know not ALL men are the same, the same way I know not ALL women are the same. And to make a long story short, I am completely aware of some of the injustices men face regarding feminism etc, BUT I am also aware of some of the challenges many women face. I am not on one side or the another, although being a woman I can at least know what it is like to feel those injustices first hand. And as a man, you felt injustices first hand as well. Whether the men on this site want to admit or not women HAVE been put through shit and continue to be put through shit. I personally have been deserted by my own FATHER, my mother was almost killed by a MAN (random break in), I was almost raped by a MAN at age 4, I have felt the constant pressures of trying to look &#8220;good&#8221; for MEN, my GRANDFATHER was an alcoholic who beat my grandmother&#8230; like I could go on all day BUT the point is that I have felt a lot of pain due to MEN but I&#8217;m not out to attack them either. </p>
<p>And I dont have a singular perspective, I just felt that I could actually RELATE to a lot of the monologues presented in the &#8220;Vagina Monologues.&#8221; And it&#8217;s more than &#8220;spewing hate&#8221; actually if you view it as &#8220;spewing hate&#8221; then you are reading into incorrectly. I&#8217;m not here to hate men, I don&#8217;t hate men, I love men, I love all types of human beings, I just cannot handle this website anymore. I come on here and get called every name in the book, and called a liar for presenting anything about myself. It&#8217;s just a really negative atmosphere. It would be totally different if the men on here wanted to sit down and discuss actual issues and their points of view where they personally have felt victimized, then I would listen. BUT, they don&#8217;t. They come on here and use the words &#8220;cunt and fuck&#8221; excessively and call all women whores and say we are only good for fucking. We are stupid, yada yada blah blah blah, non-sense really. </p>
<p>So if you would like to have a conversation, then fine whatever, but I don&#8217;t want to argue over the same stupid things anymore. And I refuse to talk to anyone else on this site. You and &#8220;no manhole&#8221; are the onle males on this site who seem to have any common sense. So yeah, message me if you want to. Bye.</p></blockquote>
<p>Have you got your application for Border&#8217;s ready yet? For after your &#8216;graduation&#8217; in advanced flower-arranging&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly B</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-221429</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Gwallan (and only Gwallan so no one else respond to me because I will only ignore you)-
 
I'm not "running away" I just feel like I argue in circles on here and it's just frustrating me too much and I feel like I am not going to get through to anyone no matter how hard I try so I decided to leave, or at least to stop posting. I'm not really sure which posts you are referring to when I was supposedly referring to ALL men but I would never generalize ALL men into one category because I know not ALL men are the same, the same way I know not ALL women are the same. And to make a long story short, I am completely aware of some of the injustices men face regarding feminism etc, BUT I am also aware of some of the challenges many women face. I am not on one side or the another, although being a woman I can at least know what it is like to feel those injustices first hand. And as a man, you felt injustices first hand as well. Whether the men on this site want to admit or not women HAVE been put through shit and continue to be put through shit. I personally have been deserted by my own FATHER, my mother was almost killed by a MAN (random break in), I was almost raped by a MAN at age 4, I have felt the constant pressures of trying to look "good" for MEN, my GRANDFATHER was an alcoholic who beat my grandmother... like I could go on all day BUT the point is that I have felt a lot of pain due to MEN but I'm not out to attack them either. 

And I dont have a singular perspective, I just felt that I could actually RELATE to a lot of the monologues presented in the "Vagina Monologues." And it's more than "spewing hate" actually if you view it as "spewing hate" then you are reading into incorrectly. I'm not here to hate men, I don't hate men, I love men, I love all types of human beings, I just cannot handle this website anymore. I come on here and get called every name in the book, and called a liar for presenting anything about myself. It's just a really negative atmosphere. It would be totally different if the men on here wanted to sit down and discuss actual issues and their points of view where they personally have felt victimized, then I would listen. BUT, they don't. They come on here and use the words "cunt and fuck" excessively and call all women whores and say we are only good for fucking. We are stupid, yada yada blah blah blah, non-sense really. 

So if you would like to have a conversation, then fine whatever, but I don't want to argue over the same stupid things anymore. And I refuse to talk to anyone else on this site. You and "no manhole" are the onle males on this site who seem to have any common sense. So yeah, message me if you want to. Bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gwallan (and only Gwallan so no one else respond to me because I will only ignore you)-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;running away&#8221; I just feel like I argue in circles on here and it&#8217;s just frustrating me too much and I feel like I am not going to get through to anyone no matter how hard I try so I decided to leave, or at least to stop posting. I&#8217;m not really sure which posts you are referring to when I was supposedly referring to ALL men but I would never generalize ALL men into one category because I know not ALL men are the same, the same way I know not ALL women are the same. And to make a long story short, I am completely aware of some of the injustices men face regarding feminism etc, BUT I am also aware of some of the challenges many women face. I am not on one side or the another, although being a woman I can at least know what it is like to feel those injustices first hand. And as a man, you felt injustices first hand as well. Whether the men on this site want to admit or not women HAVE been put through shit and continue to be put through shit. I personally have been deserted by my own FATHER, my mother was almost killed by a MAN (random break in), I was almost raped by a MAN at age 4, I have felt the constant pressures of trying to look &#8220;good&#8221; for MEN, my GRANDFATHER was an alcoholic who beat my grandmother&#8230; like I could go on all day BUT the point is that I have felt a lot of pain due to MEN but I&#8217;m not out to attack them either. </p>
<p>And I dont have a singular perspective, I just felt that I could actually RELATE to a lot of the monologues presented in the &#8220;Vagina Monologues.&#8221; And it&#8217;s more than &#8220;spewing hate&#8221; actually if you view it as &#8220;spewing hate&#8221; then you are reading into incorrectly. I&#8217;m not here to hate men, I don&#8217;t hate men, I love men, I love all types of human beings, I just cannot handle this website anymore. I come on here and get called every name in the book, and called a liar for presenting anything about myself. It&#8217;s just a really negative atmosphere. It would be totally different if the men on here wanted to sit down and discuss actual issues and their points of view where they personally have felt victimized, then I would listen. BUT, they don&#8217;t. They come on here and use the words &#8220;cunt and fuck&#8221; excessively and call all women whores and say we are only good for fucking. We are stupid, yada yada blah blah blah, non-sense really. </p>
<p>So if you would like to have a conversation, then fine whatever, but I don&#8217;t want to argue over the same stupid things anymore. And I refuse to talk to anyone else on this site. You and &#8220;no manhole&#8221; are the onle males on this site who seem to have any common sense. So yeah, message me if you want to. Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Masterson</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-221424</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Masterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221375" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nicole said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Honest question here....in previous posts Dick said all women are cheating whores, and it was clear from the post he meant that as an insult and not a quality to be admired.   So why then is Spitzer glorified for cheating?    &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Woman, fuck off my website.

-Dick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-221375" title="View the original comment"><em>Nicole said:</em></a></p>
<p>Honest question here&#8230;.in previous posts Dick said all women are cheating whores, and it was clear from the post he meant that as an insult and not a quality to be admired.   So why then is Spitzer glorified for cheating?    </p></blockquote>
<p>Woman, fuck off my website.</p>
<p>-Dick</p>
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		<title>By: Doubt</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-221402</link>
		<dc:creator>Doubt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, feminism is nothing more than mass-brainwashing, lies and propaganda poisoning our children and our culture. It must be put to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, feminism is nothing more than mass-brainwashing, lies and propaganda poisoning our children and our culture. It must be put to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: gwallan</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-221391</link>
		<dc:creator>gwallan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nicole...

I should have added that no matter what agreement he has with his wife once something like that is public knowledge he is then open to judgement by that public rather than only his wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicole&#8230;</p>
<p>I should have added that no matter what agreement he has with his wife once something like that is public knowledge he is then open to judgement by that public rather than only his wife.</p>
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		<title>By: gwallan</title>
		<link>http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/spitzer-american-women/#comment-221390</link>
		<dc:creator>gwallan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221377" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nicole said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

If his wife doesn't mind then why did he say during his press conference that he apologized  'first and foremost to his family' and then go on to say he would now spend his time 'repairing the damage done to his family'?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Political reality doesn't for allow it unfortunately. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221055" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kelly B said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
 
I never once said ALL MEN... so get it right, bitch.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
It was quite clear you meant all men in many of your statements. If you don't mean that then use a modifier such as "some".
 
Notwithstanding the fact that I was a radical feminist for three decades I am actually male. I had a wake-up call in 2002 when I started to deal with my own childhood experience of sexual abuse. It was only then that I started to discover how I'd been misled and also how much harm feminist ideology is doing to victims of abuse both male and female.
 
You may, from your singular female perspective, think that the Vagina Monologues is just it and a bit. In actual fact it constitues a legal hate rally not unlike the &lt;a href="http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2005/0504roberts.html"&gt;Patriarchy Slam&lt;/a&gt;. Imagine the reaction if groups of men were to spew that kind of venom towards women publicly AND at taxpayers' expense. 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-221184" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wolfe said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-220778" title="View the original comment"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chris said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
 
Wolfe
Don't waste your time: Kelly B is an idiot.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
She certainly comes off that way. Rather sad though, that one so gullible and self-involved seems so beyond help.
-wolfe&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 

Well there's the thing. I don't believe Kelly is an idiot which is why I go to some trouble to challenge her. She keeps running away which, unfortunately, is a behaviour I'm all too familiar with. 
 
Good to see you wolfe. I'll pop into your blog later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-221377" title="View the original comment"><em>Nicole said:</em></a></p>
<p>If his wife doesn&#8217;t mind then why did he say during his press conference that he apologized  &#8216;first and foremost to his family&#8217; and then go on to say he would now spend his time &#8216;repairing the damage done to his family&#8217;?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Political reality doesn&#8217;t for allow it unfortunately. </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-221055" title="View the original comment"><em>Kelly B said:</em></a></p>
<p>I never once said ALL MEN&#8230; so get it right, bitch.</p></blockquote>
<p>It was quite clear you meant all men in many of your statements. If you don&#8217;t mean that then use a modifier such as &#8220;some&#8221;.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding the fact that I was a radical feminist for three decades I am actually male. I had a wake-up call in 2002 when I started to deal with my own childhood experience of sexual abuse. It was only then that I started to discover how I&#8217;d been misled and also how much harm feminist ideology is doing to victims of abuse both male and female.</p>
<p>You may, from your singular female perspective, think that the Vagina Monologues is just it and a bit. In actual fact it constitues a legal hate rally not unlike the <a href="http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2005/0504roberts.html">Patriarchy Slam</a>. Imagine the reaction if groups of men were to spew that kind of venom towards women publicly AND at taxpayers&#8217; expense. </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-221184" title="View the original comment"><em>Wolfe said:</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-220778" title="View the original comment"><em>Chris said:</em></a></p>
<p>Wolfe<br />
Don&#8217;t waste your time: Kelly B is an idiot.</p></blockquote>
<p>She certainly comes off that way. Rather sad though, that one so gullible and self-involved seems so beyond help.<br />
-wolfe</p></blockquote>
<p>Well there&#8217;s the thing. I don&#8217;t believe Kelly is an idiot which is why I go to some trouble to challenge her. She keeps running away which, unfortunately, is a behaviour I&#8217;m all too familiar with. </p>
<p>Good to see you wolfe. I&#8217;ll pop into your blog later.</p>
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		<title>By: Doubt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doubt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just don't have the brains to get it. A girl can get her cunt fucked any day of the week, it's not the same as when a man cheats. Your anatomy does not give you a free idiot pass in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just don&#8217;t have the brains to get it. A girl can get her cunt fucked any day of the week, it&#8217;s not the same as when a man cheats. Your anatomy does not give you a free idiot pass in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If his wife doesn't mind then why did he say during his press conference that he apologized  'first and foremost to his family' and then go on to say he would now spend his time 'repairing the damage done to his family'?

I agree with everything else you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If his wife doesn&#8217;t mind then why did he say during his press conference that he apologized  &#8216;first and foremost to his family&#8217; and then go on to say he would now spend his time &#8216;repairing the damage done to his family&#8217;?</p>
<p>I agree with everything else you said.</p>
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