Men feel oppressed that women can be many things, instead of only…

However, I do not agree with this girl , but it was a man who cheated on his wife…

Lol, the sad part is that I thought this was all real. Turns out that Dick’s book and site is merely satire. = (

That’s all fine and dandy theory, but the reality is there are far more whores in this society of ours, than there are decent women. This is just my personal experience, and it’s mostly bad as most guys will attest to their own bad experiences with women.

So what if we all just refuse to deal with women until they are all loney and decide to temporarily change face? We suffer as well. Waiting for a good women to come by punishes ourselves as much as it does them, and it’s not realistic to think Mrs Right will just waltz over to us because we are single.

Quite the contrary, we will simply suffer alone, and I have little doubt the scrupulous men out there will be more than happy to play the whores game of carrot on a string, until they’ve got what they wanted from these whores, which only reinforces their fucked up behavior.

Whatever. Maybe Dick sounds extremely vocal about his views to some of you women, but as loud and obnoxious as it may sound it’s 99% true. Sure it sounds angry, but what is there left for us guys to express when this country has no repercussions whatsoever for women who have no conscience? Literally no conscience at all, and are all willing to pretend that Sex in the City is virtually like some guide on how to behave, even at the cost of fucking over their spouse?

You don’t think I’ve seen it happen? I’ve seen the patterns of behavior that lead up to these kinds of fucked up realities that ruin peoples lives. I’m not against freedom, I am against the irresponsibility. It’s pretty fucked up shit to see what women get away with.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5285244722&sid=1 &pageNo=1

Hahahaha.

My sister is one of these empty skulled bitches who thinks alpha males are all bloated obese physiques and sociopathic tendencies.

Her and her wigger husband owe me $70 for a satellite reciever I sold them, they called today and said it wasn’t working, but didn’t want me to fix it nor did they want to return it…

Then I heard Mr. thug wigger in the backround running his lardass mouth but not saying any of it to me like it’s supposed to intimidate me like that’s going to make me back down. I guess in a society as effeminate as this one 6′2 300 fat pigs with a felony record are suppose to make me fear? The criminal is petty and manipulative and as sociopathic as the female. That’s why they fall in such deep love together.

Apparently the price to betray your blood is as low as $70. I told her on the phone that she should let her precious boythug know that my temper is legendary and the inevitable will happen. A veteran against a petty thief and a cokehead? Hahaha. I guess if they don’t come across some honor or atleast some sense in the next few days he’ll have a display of my daring that he hasn’t seen yet but doesn’t want to believe it from the tongue of others.

@son of the suns-
I’ll except that I’m your enemy, but you are not mine.

p.s. I’m not even 30….yet…you make me sound old.

I love those lines:

‘The lion does not lie down with the lamb, or the wolf with men: they are enemies to the end. Now is the time to show your spearmanship and daring…’

The Kaiser’s officers used to drink the ‘Am Tag’ toast after every military gathering. The toast was to the ‘day of reckoning’: when, after France and Russia had been crushed, they would settle accounts with Britain, their most hated enemy.

For me, the enemies are left-collectivism and elite paternalism: after these, we can settle accounts with Anglo-American feminists once and for all.

Keb: Take your mediocre baby boomer fag rock and get bent. My whole body gets cold in winter, but if the choices are letting some fat land whale or raising the bastards not of my bloodline of some skank.. I’ll settle for the furnace within to keep me snug. It’s fueled from sources that never run dry.

Manhole: There can be no pacts between lions and men. Hector begged conditions when he knew he was no match in for Achilles and he was slaughtered along with his entire pathetic walled city of nutmeg and women’s rights. The fate of traitors will be determined on the swing of my passions after victory.

no manhole said:

What I’m trying to figure out, however, is this. Evolution compels women to seek the best guys they can: able to provide, looks, charm, whatever. As men, where do we draw the line between regular, based-on-evolution to-propigate-the-species, and therefore not unreasoanle expectations, from ones that are unreasonable (materialistic-based entitlement)? For example, the high school teacher I just previously spoke up wanted a man with a six-figures plus salary,which I think is entitlement beyond her needs. But what salary should she reasonably expect in man such that its not called entitlement, as an example.

Also, thank you for your interesting historical account on how female entitlement may have become established.It sounds good to me.

Something I have often considered is that Anglo-American women should be made to attend special classes where their racism, homophobia, sexism and entitlement issues would be discussed as a problematic socio-biological legacy, things they would be made to address rationally as innate problems they suffer from, rather like hereditary mental illnesses. Part of the rights/privileges agenda is that Anglo-American women are insufficiently challenged, as the pedestal they have wrangled for themselves sets them somehow above reproach. That pedestal needs to be removed with the utmost urgency. One issue that women here do not grasp is that Dick’s misogynistic hyperbole is a perfect response to the Pedestal Syndrome. Yes, men can be racist too - but the point is that female racism is entirely UNTOUCHED in the media or elsewhere (unlike white working class male racism, for instance), which makes his rants about it all the more effective. I personally do not mind women liking wealthy men - as a libertarian, it is their choice: my own issues with women hinge on the blind eye turned to their racism, homophobia, socio-political privileges, double standards and so on - attitudes that informally constrict the rights of others.

I think mismanagement is at the root of many social problems. For instance, immigration in European countries has become a problem because it was never rationally modulated by the authorities or guided in a constructive manner for the good of the immigrants or the host populations. People from Islamic countries were just dumped among poor whites without any language training or knowledge of the host cultures, to compete for scarce resources like housing or routine jobs. Little wonder fascism is rising again across Europe.

Similarly, Western women from the late Sixties on were given rights to study, improve themselves and so on - not a bad thing, in itself. The problems began when they were allowed to retain the privileges they enjoyed before emancipation after acquiring these rights. This has led to absurd double standards like women wanting access to male organisations/occupations like military academies or the fire service, while continuing to exclude men from their own at every opportunity. Consider also divorce, which retains an archaic view of the male as an evil ogre, while assuming the female to be a penniless damsel. Sooner or later women are going to have to choose either rights or privileges before male alienation from contemporary arrangements renders western societies irredeemably dysfunctional (a process already well-advanced).

Western feminism IOW is in a transitory state where women retain the best of all conditions, men the worst of all conditions, and which women will not change without external compunction as the whole thing favours them too much, right now.

I’ve listened to a couple of the songs he has mentioned and they sounded pretty good, maybe a little depressing, but no more depressing than some of the country music I listen to. Maybe he is not psychotic, but broken hearted.

no manhole said:

Keb said:

The Eagles- Desperado…..

My guess is that SOTS is not an Eagles fan, but its a great suggestion anyway.

I think it maybe useful if SOTS changed the music he listened to, from depressing industrial-rock to soft 70′-80’s pop-rock: For example, a conversion of “Tool” to “Styx”. I suspect that this may be more effective than anti psychotic medication.

or maybe, I just like that song…=)

Muzalon said:

Cut the supply of tacit goodwill, guys. But then, considering the Marriage Strike, this is already happening.

I’m all for that. I’m starting to snap back at bitch entitlement princesses. Maybe when the anti-feminist jihad occurs and the CS/SOTS/Muz junta assumes power, SOTS will be kind enough to allow me to keep my penis. But fuck if someone takes my “Styx” away, I’m going to be pissed.

son of the suns said:

Manhole has too much to lose in his life to ever accomplish anything.

He’s like the British loyalists before the Revolution crying about the mother country and moderation when in actuality he’s a coward scared of anything that would risk his land, posessions, or mortality. He’d sell out his blood, his best friend, and even his messiah for expansion of his own comfort.

How was life for the French whores who bed Nazi occupation forces after they were pushed back into central Europe? What would be the masculine equivalent of French princesses having their estrogen confidence removed via buzz cuts? Public castration?

A Perfect Circle - Sleeping Beauty

I suppose it relates to how we want to take practical action against the issues that oppress us. There are two core approaches to attacking any problem - the velvet glove or the iron fist. The glove may be good for manipulating our opponents as we wish, but ultimately it cannot really bite deep into the problem with sufficient force. The iron fist can seem ridiculous if one has a meagre power base (as we do), and the titanic energies it engages can soon dissipate if not released with decisive intent. The best strategy is a combination of glove and fist, using both as appropriate until an opportunity arises for a decisive strike.

That said, withdrawing consent from the existing order is a potent technique of passive resistance. Men should withdraw their consent from whatever Western society they live in, refusing to marry, have children, pay tax or even reside there until the issue of female privileges is forcefully addressed. This is especially potent when functioning members of the middle class adopt it en masse. Cut the supply of tacit goodwill, guys. But then, considering the Marriage Strike, this is already happening.

Keb said:

The Eagles- Desperado…..

My guess is that SOTS is not an Eagles fan, but its a great suggestion anyway.

I think it maybe useful if SOTS changed the music he listened to, from depressing industrial-rock to soft 70′-80’s pop-rock: For example, a conversion of “Tool” to “Styx”. I suspect that this may be more effective than anti psychotic medication.

The Eagles- Desperado…..

son of the suns said:

How was life for the French whores who bed Nazi occupation forces after they were pushed back into central Europe? What would be the masculine equivalent of French princesses having their estrogen confidence removed via buzz cuts? Public castration?

To think of all the stuff Dick has written about those horrible women always threatening castration.

How his carefully constructed arguments lay foundations in these claims, and then this guy goes and screws it all up.

On Dick’s very own website as well.
tut tut tut.

son of the suns said:

Manhole has too much to lose in his life to ever accomplish anything.

He’s like the British loyalists before the Revolution crying about the mother country and moderation when in actuality he’s a coward scared of anything that would risk his land, posessions, or mortality. He’d sell out his blood, his best friend, and even his messiah for expansion of his own comfort.

How was life for the French whores who bed Nazi occupation forces after they were pushed back into central Europe? What would be the masculine equivalent of French princesses having their estrogen confidence removed via buzz cuts? Public castration?

A Perfect Circle - Sleeping Beauty

Your pretty funny, SOTS…seriously. The problem is your really scary as well.

Manhole has too much to lose in his life to ever accomplish anything.

He’s like the British loyalists before the Revolution crying about the mother country and moderation when in actuality he’s a coward scared of anything that would risk his land, posessions, or mortality. He’d sell out his blood, his best friend, and even his messiah for expansion of his own comfort.

How was life for the French whores who bed Nazi occupation forces after they were pushed back into central Europe? What would be the masculine equivalent of French princesses having their estrogen confidence removed via buzz cuts? Public castration?

A Perfect Circle - Sleeping Beauty

no manhole said-But what salary should she reasonably expect in man such that its not called entitlement, as an example.

What ever happened to plane old character……so maybe he doesnt have money to offer, but something far more rewarding.

When I met my husband he had no car (his brother totaled it), he lived with his parents, and worked in a lumber yard for almost no money. I didn’t care. He was charming, super smart, funny as hell and wanted the same things I wanted in life…..something simple, we have that and I feel like the luckiest women in the world to have a man like him.

Muzalon said:

no manhole said:

Arbalest said:

Peace is like the golden rule, it only works when everyone agrees to it. However the same bitches you’re defending wouldn’t mind a bit if women were(or are) the ones doing the jihad-ing. There’s no good reason to defend something that wouldn’t do the same for you.

Also I hear the “Not all women are like that” speech too much. Not all bees are equally poisonous but you still wouldn’t chance being stung would you?

Oops. I misunderstood your first paragraph, sorry. I dont think that all happily married women who love men would agree to a radical feminist jihad that curtails the rights of men further— I think a lot of women out there are true equity feminists.

In no way will I ever support a system that does not give equal rights to all individuals, no matter what race or gender they are. I am so lucky to live in America where everybody has equal rights. But again, I really don’t know what to do with the problem of female entitlement, that many, but not all, women seem to have.

But don’t you see? Americans DON’T have equal rights… Women have garnered RIGHTS plus PRIVILEGES… while men have been left only with OBLIGATIONS. And that has been repeated with varying modalities throughout the Western World. For example, in European countries men have to do national service in the army, while women don’t… yet women in France or Germany can be Doctors, lawyers and politicians. They have ‘cherry-picked’ the things they want from ‘emancipation’ - jettisoned anything they dislike. Men have had no such choices.

During the Sixties, no one thought women would want to retain the old privileges that suited THEM when they fought for equal rights. At the time, it seemed like a good fight. Then, in the mid Seventies men began to notice that women still felt entitled to the old privileges… that they still objectified men economically. And this coincided with The Selfish Gene (Dawkins) in Britain and Sociobiology (E O Wilson) in the States, both published in the mid Seventies to rationalise these thwarted ideals. I have sometimes thought that feminism in the Anglosphere came too quickly, and for that reason has wreaked such HAVOK - it was entirely mismanaged. In Scandinavia, where feminism was steadily introduced over a longer period and the socio-cultural background is more classless and liberated, women have a far lower sense of ‘entitlement’. The problem in the Anglo-American world was one of modulation as much as anything.

To follow upon your point: When I said that I was lucky enough to live in America where all citizens are guaranteed certain rights, what I meant was the kind of basic rights as described in the Bill of Rights (USA), such as the right of assembly, free press, taxation with representation, etc. My concern about having a anti-feminist “jihad” is this: I guess men in theory would regain the equality that we lost as well described in your post, but if this jihad is going to happen, are women going to lose the basic rights as described above? I am certainly against this; again, I feel everybody is entitled to basic rights.

What I would like to see are peaceful efforts to regain some of the lost equality in a peaceful manner. For example, this may mean re-writing laws on the books that eliminate alimony, or more of a rigorous description of what constitutes proof of date rape,such that what happened at Duke University never happens again.

As for dealing with the problem of female entitlement on a personal level, I am not apposed to being rude to a women if she seems to act as if they are an entitlement princess. For example, I recently told a woman on-line that I thought she was this, in light of the fact that she was a high school teacher and made it clear in her on-line profile that she expected the guy to make 6 figures plus.

What I’m trying to figure out, however, is this. Evolution compels women to seek the best guys they can: able to provide, looks, charm, whatever. As men, where do we draw the line between regular, based-on-evolution to-propigate-the-species, and therefore not unreasoanle expectations, from ones that are unreasonable (materialistic-based entitlement)? For example, the high school teacher I just previously spoke up wanted a man with a six-figures plus salary,which I think is entitlement beyond her needs. But what salary should she reasonably expect in man such that its not called entitlement, as an example.

Also, thank you for your interesting historical account on how female entitlement may have become established.It sounds good to me.