There’s No Such Thing As a Free Lunch
Since I began the Honorary Man of the Month program (in which an ordinary woman can honorarily have the prestige usually saved for men for a fleeting moment), I have never thought that Carmen Electra would not be among the herd.
This month she has done a man-deed by outing prostitutes worldwide while participating in a charity auction. The auctioned prize: a date with Carmen Electra. The price: high enough so that Miss December “actually felt obligated to, like, sleep with the guy.”
Brava Madam. By the way, when I said prostitutes earlier, I was talking about all women. Every single woman on Earth is a prostitute. Most are just lousy at it.
Before we get carried away, let me say first that Carmen declined the man’s charitable donation, which was probably going to orphans or some kind of diseased persons. Even though no stipulation of sex was implied or requested, she simply didn’t feel comfortable with it — probably much in the same way that the child who could have purchased a working kidney or new eyelids with the man’s money feels uncomfortable with his plagues.
Women are like that in everything that they do. They can be winning important awards like the Honorary Man of the Month with one hand, while they’re stripping organs from needy children with the other. It’s the same kind of shit magicians do except women do it for personal gain. Women are morality magicians. They make principles disappear.
While she has displayed a typically appalling woman-selfishness, Carmen Electra has also expressed the perfectly opposite and very manly opinion that all women are prostitutes. They are. And that’s why she’s the Honorary Man of the Month.
Prostitution is a part of a woman’s nature. It’s something they can never escape, and that’s why they respond so well to being propositioned as such.
“Would you like to go to dinner?”
“I’d love it.”
Yea. That’s because you’re a prostitute.
Unlike men, women are lazy as shit. Women are so lazy that if they designed houses, there would no longer be stairs. Houses would have only slides, and women would give absolutely no fuck about how to get back upstairs because with women it’s all a race to the bottom anyway. Or they would make some hack joke about a man finally asking for directions.
Women ask for directions at the first sign of trouble because they’re lazy too. How many gloriously mantastic things have ever been done because someone got to the right place at the right time? Fucking none. You just show up right where you thought you would be at exactly the right time and then a bunch of predictable shit happen.
That’s horseshit. Men don’t ask for directions because we don’t ruin great things that might be just over the horizon or around some uncharted corner for the sole purpose of clinging onto a pathetic timetable that represents how much control we delude ourselves into thinking we have over our lives.
Also, the women who eat a free meal and then skip out on the requisite sex aren’t thieves or empowered, they’re just lousy whores. Once payment takes place, you’re guilty. Don’t believe me? Go ask a fucking cop.
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You’re mom is a big fat lazy whore dyke who can’t get enough of my cock. Tell your mom to lose weight and get off my dick.
@Jenn: I suggest you reread my above post. I declared sex to be one of the three main reasons people seek out a long term relationship, and the sole reason for a short term relationship. To suggest then that I do not see sex as being important to a relationship is absurd. What I dispute is the term “romantic relationship” which in essence describes nothing more than the courtship period directly preceding a relationship of either kind.
I can only agree with your statement Sex is more important that romance in my opinion. as that is very much what I have already iterated. Why then, I must ask you, do so many women cease expressing sexual interest shortly after the honeymoon period?
Do you really believe what you have just wrote? Are you that asinine?
Chauvinism is not about feeling sorry for yourself - It is about elitism. About elites. About being the best. Men are the best. Women are no-where near our fucking leagues and I use that lightly. I don’t know nor do I care how you choose to read what I have just said. Call me a snob, elitist, ass, blah, whatever, the facts are that men are better than women. Myself? I haven’t met a woman in real life whom I can truly respect.
Zardoz…you think it’s strange to relate physical attraction to a romantic relationship? Don’t you think that sex is a HUGE part of any working relationship? To desire to have sex with someone (at least initially) you need to be physically attracted to them. And if you don’t connect sexually with someone…that’s a problem. I once dated a man that I really, genuinely liked…but our sex was terrible, we just didn’t connect on that level and you may not think that’s important but I certainly do. It’s not that he or I was bad in bed it just wasn’t happening for us. I’m sure that sounds stupid to you but personally I place a decent amount of emphasis on sex in a relationship. If you can’t have good sex or at least ANY sex…neither of you will be happy and it will end in divorce. I have plenty of good male friends who are married (quite recently too!) and the sex has stopped. How can you be with someone without it? Sex is more important that romance in my opinion.
Zardoz has his Man-Shit together.
Damn, I need to work on lengethening my already lengthy Man-Posts if I keep seeing this type of stuff. (Not really, repeating my Man-Rightness like a broken ABBA record and a Dyslexic Parrot only serves to make the slower ones ((women)) get headaches, though Cut&Paste is Man-Tastic)
Remember MEN: Women = Money
Man Wisdom: Money = Women
Men want Sex with a side of Relationship. Women want Relationships with a side of Sex.
Obviously, men are superiour in efficency, and finance through Man-Logic when anything Relationship is involved. I pay for food for my dog, I pay for my women. Economics at the Pinnacle of “Free Trade”.
Of course you’ve been attracted to men who weren’t viewed as good looking. Ugly can be overlooked. Like when it comes down to $$$$$$$$.
Odd that a woman would associate “physical attraction” with “romantic relationship”. Hmm, or is it..
Physical attraction is important to a sexual relationship, romance is governed by gestures of expression. Being physically attractive has very little or nothing whatsoever to do with being romantic. Being physically attracted to a person should by this reasoning have very little or nothing to do with being romantically inclined toward a person. The fact they seem to entwine so heavily in peoples minds suggests to me that there may well be some bullshit involved somewhere. Let’s look for it.
Humans seek spousal partners for a few simple reasons. To procreate, have intimate[non-sexual definition] companionship, and to increase their viability through partnership amid societal competition. In short form, this basically means we pair off with someone we desire to fuck, converse, and nest with. It would seem that sex is important, mutual compatibility is important, and capacity to maintain for the family a sustainable life in society is important. Sexual attraction certainly governs the first. Similar interests, language ability, and compatible attitudes would govern the second. Complimentary differences to make a greater whole and commitment to hard work should govern the third. This being the case, where does romance fit into the equation?
Well, there really is only one place for romance. Courtship. That being the prelude to establishing either a (no strings) sexual relationship, or combining two social singulars into a spousal couple unit. Romance is the expression of desire through thought and deed, for either short term casual sex or long term involvement. The romance level is increased or decreased depending on which type of relationship, and depth of desire. The intensity factor involved for long term relationships is so exponentially greater I’ll concentrate on that as the “classical” sense and easily recognisable form of “true romance” courtship. Let’s look at what it traditionally (and still relevantly to this day and age) entails.
While there are many forms of expression (such as flowers, gifts, poetry, various deeds and gestures intending to prove commitment, etc. which vary from person to person and couple to couple) it predominately involves a man showering a woman with attention to declare his interest, and a woman declaring her interest by accepting it. Emotional proteins run into overtime production during this period, to such an enormous extent that people frequently describe the sensation as “floating on air” and numerous other well known phrases. Its reason for seeming drug like is the fact that it is a drug affect stimulated by the brains chemical reactor in response to external stimuli rather than the contents of a corner-purchased dime-bag.
Now we get to the interesting part. Since courtship makes a woman feel as though she is a princess and the centre of all creation, why would she want that feeling to stop once the courtship ends? This is exactly why many women complain that their marriage failed because the romance “died” after the honeymoon period (during which the initial stages of sexual attention kept that mood protein factory churning out its product like mini-Columbia). One day she wakes up and realises she hasn’t been showered with poems, or flowers, or gifts outside her birthday, Christmas, anniversary etc. and all that’s left is the hard work of upholding one end of the marital partnership, a man who still wants sex all the time, exhaustion from the days social labours carving into what hours are left for social conversation, and wet towels on the bathroom floor.
Why is this such an issue? Often the man doesn’t even realise there’s anything wrong. He’s working harder than he ever has in life, motivated by the prospect of having a wife and maybe children to give the best possible opportunities to, and expects (whether she works in a job or the home) his wife is content to do her utmost same for the mutual benefit gained and increased viability. Well, the truth is, in a healthy relationship, this isn’t an issue at all. The trouble comes into it when the woman’s desire and yearning for that “romance” of courtship attention turns her off conjoining in sexual intercourse on a regular basis, talking time becomes argument time, and the family unit’s nest becomes metaphorically akin to Poland during WW2 or Berlin thereafter.
Women whom seek “romantic relationships” are basically saying they don’t want commitment unless it involves an ongoing shower of attention and feelings of floating on air. However, thanks to Walt Disney productions that end “happily ever after” the white dress wedding day, most don’t even realise this expectation within themselves.
Is it little wonder then that a common phrase for fallaciously fanciful things is “romancing”?
[Another wall of text brought to by Zardoz.]
Physical attraction is an important thing in any romantic relationship Zardoz and I’ve been attracted to many men that aren’t what is typically viewed as “good looking.” Good looking is all relative to the person doing the looking, don’t you think? You are absolutely right that I would want someone that I’m attracted to but in many cases you can meet a man that IS classically handsome and as soon as you learn his personality he gets uglier and uglier and it works the other way around as well.
We believe it because it is a sad truth. Although the average woman’s wish-list in regard to her “ideal man” is indeed more complex than that. It’s actually an abomination of contradictions. The only two things that stand out for not being contradicted by other factors on the wish-list are “wealthy” and “good looking”. In that order of preference.
I have yet to meet a man that intimidates me detached. I grew up in Georgetown, wealth does nothing for me. I’ve met plenty of multi-millionaires that have the personality of a rock. A man that I can have fun and laughs with is what I look for…I’d rather live in a trailer with a man I’m actually happy with than in a mansion with someone boring. Think it’s bullshit all you want but frankly I think it’s pretty sad that some of you really believe that all women want is money.
Jenn, you can live in denial and think only trogs inhabit this board but I know for a fact that I pull more ass than oprah going upstairs.
I’m pretty much every single woman my age’s dream (I’m in my mid 40’s.) I have a nice house, a boat (big one too), many toys, president of a multi-million dollar firm. I’m laid back, fit, have all my hair where it should be and none where it shouldn’t.
I would probably intimidate you in real life.
Fact is, our system is out of control pandering to women’s fickle nature. It is why we have a nanny state and it is a big reason for out of control government.
Women as peers is like the Santa Claus fairytale. Everyone knows it isn’t true but nobody wants to spill the beans and ruin the fun.
Your bitter rantings here only show that you have finally figured out men are cluing in thanks to the internet and your shaming language is comparable to using a bow in a modern battle.
And Billy…you don’t make any fucking sense. I’m impressed with your grammar. That’s all.
That’s a shame…I bet women all over the world are really crushed at the loss of you winners as prospects in the dating world. In my opinion you guys are doing a favor to women by spending all day on the internets and not dating. People like you should do your best to just avoid having to make any kind of human contact. I knew a kid like you guys in high school…he smelled like tomato soup and I’m willing to bet he’s still a virgin. Brilliant plan you’ve all come up with here.
Also…is there a reason you say girly-girl in every post? Is it supposed to be condescending? I am a girl and I guess you could say I’m kind of girly…I’m not sure what effect you’re going for there manly man
Jenn is another dopey woman trying to act as a psychic..
Women have no clue about anything.
Just say something it don’t matter, we all know you dumb as dirt.
So are you just here to try and make those mean old facts go away? I mean, so far you little girly-girls have proven each and every one of Dick’s essays correct beyond doubt.
You know girls that will fuck you for buying them lunch? No wonder you idiots hate women so much…maybe you should try looking outside of the trailor park next time.
To a woman free lunch is a swap for pussy
Hey just put it on my pussy-express card
Women want all the “rights”, but no responsibility (like for the bill).
When people are watching, they give the usual haughty lip service of “I can pay my own way THANK YOU”, but when the opportunity comes to AVOID it, that’s exactly what they DO.
Watch out for this giveaway behaviour in your observations of women from now on. You’ll see it occur very regularly, in various subtle and not so subtle forms.
The best advice is this: When you are dealing with pathalogical deception, what they DO is a much more reliable indicator of intention that what they SAY. Pathological deception is most commonly observed in women when they have an agenda, or want something.
Women will deny they do this. Some of them will even get really angry and pissed off that their behaviour has been laid bare.
Just smile…and keep watching what they DO.
what is an assclown?
What is love?
so your mom is a prostitute? and lazy, too, of course? pity you are even alive. i’m sure you will never find anyone to love after reading this.
Feminists are trying to seize not equality but hegemony over men. We wont submit. Men love to fight. We are born fighters and winners. You think you can snatch what we dont wish to give? All those rights, privelleges etc. were out of pity. An increasing majority of men now realize that women are unappreciative and ungrateful; continually misusing their rights and set of prerogatives.
You may be laughing now but we men will have the last laugh. As Francois said, Queens may have their moments but the King will always return to take power. Feminism may be a cult; but it will be destroyed. If it means hanging whores like you, I am honestly all for it. Oh, dont try to take me on the moral high ground. I have seen countless men die and suffer from the evils of feminism. Yes, feminists like YOU can die for all I care.
Mantastic. Another suicide driven by women? Call Ripleys. If i’d had sense i would have taken your advice at age 16, or age 6 for that matter (except my hands werent strong enough then - damnit!)
im making a petition that men are not allowed to pay for ladies dates anymore its 50/50, that way you cant blame him for wanting sex she would want it too if she did. Im not gonna quote a statistic because surely some girl will say its not true even if i pull a site “its obviosly not true inforrmation.” I’ve heard dont quote me but womens rate of infidelity rises every year. Do you think if we all buckled down and gave women respect and were true gentlemen that didnt expect sex after a free meal she would want anything to do with you? You are more sadly wrong now then ever. Women will use more men then the few men that will do the opposite will get all the women. Infact thats how many situations happen that ive seen but its just what ive seen.
I’m shaking in my black boots. Not to mention it would go from revolution to a mess.
Like beemers, boners and concierge buttons?
No im not going to say women are superior to men. I just think we have certain rights as men do. Although I do believe men should pay for some things. Its courtesy.
know your place and pay for lunch
So you think women are superior to men? Would you kindly explain why?
Good, start this revolution with a revolver in your mouth. And don’t be afraid to pull the trigger, after all every revolution needs a martyr.
you pay for everything, got it? or youre gonna pay, its youre job to pay for it and you will do it or get nothin, ill start a god damn revolution if i have to
stupes. lol.
Women look at culture in as much the same way they look at math;
proving, once again, that women suck at math.
I can’t help but think she is calling someone “stupid.”
That would be culture for an American girl.
Blah , Blah,Blah..DIAMATIK, Yap,yap,Yap. lol
stupes.
It’s culture idiot!
@ Billy; I know of millions of people who do communicate by sucking their teeth. The problem is that she lacks the couth to communicate in a manner so that all can understand. This is typical of any woman. They lack the sense to realise that not everyone understands the intricacies of her particular dialect or remote cultural references.
Who communicates by sucking their teeth?
There are other things worth communicating.
I figured as much.
gabriella is saying strupes or stupes
indicating that she is making the sound when someone is sucking his/her teeth
have you ever made a sound like that?
she was not using it as a real word
more like Pronunciation
the word stupe[s] is defined as:
A hot, wet, often medicated cloth used as a compress.
Could you kindly elucidate on the context of your usage of the word stupes?
hell yeah, there is no such thing as a free f*cking lunch
If she wants the lunch she better f*uck me when she is finished.
women are only good for sex, for all I care I think we should put them on leashes like the bitches they are
bark for me bitch!
What’s not to like?
Now, if you please.
- paul oakenfold - set it off featuring grandmaster flash-nvs
Hahahaha I like you too. Now push off (Note: If I hated you, I would have said fuck off)
lol.I like you.
You may assuage the bitterness of parting with the thought that you’re leaving a place of hatred and mysoginy.
Now, if you please.
- Paul Oakenfold . Stanley’s Theme
We could just mandate a simple gender specific quiz, like what is the typically Yankish choice of powerplant that doomed so many solenoid challenged motorists in “War of the Worlds”, and sift all you female intellects right outta here.
As is, the restriction is morally binding only. Hence, we’re overrun with ladies.
Varyingly meritorious as that might be in the flash, this is a virtual gathering place for intellectual discussion. Your carnal assets do little to compensate your intellectual liability here.
- Paul Oakenfold . Stanley’s Theme
Sometimes it’s fun to toy with a womans stupidity.
Who’s the stupid one. If you really wanted us to leave, you would have figured out, that if you ignored us and didn’t answer our posts, then we would leave.
Excatly right Nechro..
The girls who come by only prove what we’re saying is true.
The forum is different. You can come but you can’t stay if we don’t won’t you there. Sometimes it’s fun to toy with a womans stupidity.
We can block you, but we believe in something you women can’t understand. Freedom of speech.
And if we blocked you, who would prove us right?
Stupes. lol. I’m reading what their saying. I need conversation to try an understand it, don’t I? lol how else am i suppose to know what you think.
When you meet new people at a social gathering do you start shouting questions at them and singing “look at me, look at my breasts�.
I wouldn’t do this. I’m shy in public, especially if I’m by myself. But I would only speak endlessly so that the person wouldn’t feel like i was ignoring them, or was mad at them, or stuck up , or something like that.
I don’t like conflict and confusion. It worries me.
the reason y women jump in cuz they disgusting and loves to be in things
u guys should create a way to block us lol
Is it really the case that women are this bereft of common sense, courtesy, and logic? You are attempting to engage the men of this site in a dialog.
Rather than read what they have to say, you are simply spewing out questions and comments.
When you meet new people at a social gathering do you start shouting questions at them and singing “look at me, look at my breasts”.
Well, that’s a stupid question.
No doubt you do, given your behavior on this site.
Sensible rational people listen to a conversation and then join in. Rather than repeating what was just said, or asking ridiculously repetitive questions, they indicate their understanding of the topic and comment additively, contributing to the dialog.
What am I doing telling you this?
I might as well try and teach a mule to dance.
I think Sony’s answer “So you don’t come off as [a] fool” was better.
-wolfe
So you don’t come off as fool? Probably pointless, you might just be off your rocker completely.
- paul oakenfold - vulnerable featuring bad apples-nvs
Actually, first and foremost, women can’t drive. You literally can’t go out for a kebab with friends without being reminded of this. Thankfully, we were all but bypassers treated to a fender bender demonstration.
lol
yeah most women are Backstabbing, whoring, bitching, ect i’ve met alot
I read the articles that I post on. Why should I go scrummaging in the archives of comments?
All of the questions you’ve asked and points you’ve been raised have been asked and answered many, many times before on this site. You’ve racked up 17 posts all over this site, yet it seems you’ve done very little reading.
-wolfe
Very psychoanalytical aren’t you. I’m reminded of myself. But the reason you don’t understand is because most of your gender only know 3 things: Backstabbing, whoring, bitching.
I love my mother. Because she has never hurt or backstabbed me. But there’s a difference between some street whore and someone who you’ve relied on.
get lost!
I just wanted to know because I don’t understand why? I like to know why, before I judge. Many circumstances lead people into thinking in different ways. I also wanted to know if like the men on this site were abused by women emotionally, physically, sexually…whatever. Just to understand, from all sides. That’s all.
This is not the place for nosey girl questions… You’re not welcome here.
I wonder, do any of you have daughters? And what do you think of your mothers?
A wise forfeit, Grump. I can’t tell where Female’s nonsense begins and where she left off the quotes on the out of context snippets.
-Dick
“Dude, that is a fucking long tract you are asking me to respond to. ”
Sorry about that. I type fast and tend to underestimate myself.
Happy New Year to you, too, female!
Dude, that is a fucking long tract you are asking me to respond to. I have to get ready for a NYE party. Yay!!1!11!!! Fat Boy Slim at Bondi Beach tonight, whoohooooooo. But I shan’t be there. Am off to a right posh affair in a mansion, no less. I’ll have a dance, a swim in their indoor pool, a spa and a few lovely cocktails. Sigh. Then fireworks at Midnight. Hurrah!!1!! Love fireworks on the harbour, so much to do, so little time. Excitement!!
I will try and contain myself long enough to answer you. Joy!! Nowhere near US Chapter 11 joylessness.
“they can thank the dominant hegemony of typically patriarchal corporate competition for making me a product of my environment.�
“*sigh* this is just ‘the devil made me do it’ excuse. ”
No, it’s real, very subtle, but the insidious influence is there.
“Frothing at the mouth and calling women whores and bitches is not the way to do it.�
“Didn’t your mother ever teach you that two wrongs don’t make a right?”
No
“I’m not excusing Dick.”
I know. That’s good.
“I just think you are playing right into his hands.”
I disagree.
“a woman that conforms to a 1950’s feminine archetype, which, no offense is a woman that keeps her mouth shut; does not have any opinions of her own; should only speak when supporting a man’s opinions.�
“I talk a lot (too much!), I certainly have my own opinions, and I’m not afraid to disagree with a man. I believe that men and women both have responsibilities to one another. While men are to be leaders, my idea of leadership is certainly not akin to domination and oppression. It is - in a term - ’servant leadership’..”
I know what you mean. Very good.
“They don’t get to screw with however many women they want, because their moral priority is to love and respect their wives.”
Yes, for those that have morals. We live in morally declining times though. Womens rates of infidelity are taking over the mens!!
“There would be a lot less social problems if men weren’t social deadbeats to their children (and wives).”
You’re not wrong.
“They will have to be loving and respectful of their wives even if they don’t feel like it. I know that the ideal is far short of ‘the real’, but we should at least seek to work towards these things instead of tearing it down at every opportunity.”
True.
“The problem is not with men who refuse responsibility, but with women who use the legitimate problems that women face and use it as a justification for all sorts of irresponsible behaviours. Example: we feel sorry for women, so therefore the very idea of marriage has lost it’s meaning through easy divorce laws.”
I’m sorry, I do not understand what you are saying. Are you saying that if women aren’t getting a fair deal in a marriage that we shouldn’t feel sorry for them and allow them to get out?” I disagree totally if this is what you mean.
“The men here perhaps do not like to be challenged by women, in the workplace, home or bedroom.�
“On the contrary, it is the women who do not want the men to challenge them. You didn’t want Dick to challenge you. If you aren’t a bitch and a whore, then there’s no reason to be upset when somebody calls you one.”
No reason to be upset when someone calls you a bitch or a whore? Are you kidding? It’s highly offensive and if you do nothing about it, then they just think they can get away with it again and again, perpetuating the decay of common courtesy.
““Gangs of men can roam the streets and beaches gang raping whoever they please because hey, no clothes = whore, hijab = don’t touch, just marry.â€?
“Bull crap.”
Fraid not. Sydney riots didn’t just happen out of the blue.
“The Stepford wives - gosh, I have a jolly time laughing at that propaganda piece! It is pure gold.
1. Do you believe everything you see on television if it proclaims itself as liberal and feminist?” Of course not. I don’t watch tv.
“2. Is there something wrong with being a happy housewife or are you - in Simone de Beauvoir fashion - going to force ‘rebel’ traditional women to enter the workforce as well?” LOL. Hardly.
Happy New Year, men included :)
“they can thank the dominant hegemony of typically patriarchal corporate competition for making me a product of my environment.”
*sigh* this is just ‘the devil made me do it’ excuse.
“Frothing at the mouth and calling women whores and bitches is not the way to do it.”
Didn’t your mother ever teach you that two wrongs don’t make a right? I’m not excusing Dick. I just think you are playing right into his hands.
“a woman that conforms to a 1950’s feminine archetype, which, no offense is a woman that keeps her mouth shut; does not have any opinions of her own; should only speak when supporting a man’s opinions.”
I talk a lot (too much!), I certainly have my own opinions, and I’m not afraid to disagree with a man. I believe that men and women both have responsibilities to one another. While men are to be leaders, my idea of leadership is certainly not akin to domination and oppression. It is - in a term - ’servant leadership’..
I think I’m going off on a tangent here. So, let’s say this: I commented that Dick’s evidence was flimsy, didn’t I? Did Dick attack me for that comment? No? Then, your comment has lost validity.
“one should also say that there would be less social problems if men also compromised on issues and unfortunately they don’t see to like doing that very much, while our sex is simply expected to be used to it. I don’t think so.”
No, the way I see it - men may be different, but they have just as much (if not more) responsibilities as women. They don’t get to screw with however many women they want, because their moral priority is to love and respect their wives. There would be a lot less social problems if men weren’t social deadbeats to their children (and wives). They will have to be loving and respectful of their wives even if they don’t feel like it. I know that the ideal is far short of ‘the real’, but we should at least seek to work towards these things instead of tearing it down at every opportunity.
The problem is not with men who refuse responsibility, but with women who use the legitimate problems that women face and use it as a justification for all sorts of irresponsible behaviours. Example: we feel sorry for women, so therefore the very idea of marriage has lost it’s meaning through easy divorce laws.
Men, too, have dropped the ball, but this doesn’t give women the right to be just as pigheaded. You look at men and say: ‘well, if they want to be jerks, then I should be just as much of a jerk!. That attitude doesn’t solve a thing. It only perpetuates the problem, leading to more strife and dysfunction.
“The men here perhaps do not like to be challenged by women, in the workplace, home or bedroom.”
On the contrary, it is the women who do not want the men to challenge them. You didn’t want Dick to challenge you. If you aren’t a bitch and a whore, then there’s no reason to be upset when somebody calls you one.
“Gangs of men can roam the streets and beaches gang raping whoever they please because hey, no clothes = whore, hijab = don’t touch, just marry.”
Bull crap.
“Meanwhile, men come to this site to bitch about women somemore and reinforce the whore stereotype, while the 1950s Stepford wife has substituted the muslim woman.”
As if women don’t bitch about men!! (sarcasm)
The Stepford wives - gosh, I have a jolly time laughing at that propaganda piece! It is pure gold.
1. Do you believe everything you see on television if it proclaims itself as liberal and feminist?
2. Is there something wrong with being a happy housewife or are you - in Simone de Beauvoir fashion - going to force ‘rebel’ traditional women to enter the workforce as well?
LOLZ. Please stop it, my ribs are now hurting.
If you mean the way the mass media portrays men as idiots or yobs, then yes, I’ve noticed it and actually mentioned this in my previous post. Man Law 1.
If you mean the way the media portrays men as ubersexuals, then no, I haven’t noticed that, be great if they did though. I can’t say I respect Posh Spice too much (the insecurity factor erks me) but she sure has done a wonderful style job on Beckham.
“Leaving aside the anti-male vitriol, the present “statusâ€? of women in the media is almost entirely a result of the widely applauded Erica Jong/Isadora Wing school of feminism. They wanted women not to behave like men, but to behave like feminists’ worst perceptions of the most flawed men.”
I don’t know who these people are but for some reason I’m imagining that women who gave 5000, or whatever, head jobs in 24 hours.
“Your whinging on about the patriarchy really does place you solidly in the ’70’s. You’re sure you’re not an elderly spinster gender feminist who’s about 49, realizing she’ll never get a man, clinging desperately to her polyester power pantsuits?”
Polyester power pantsuits?! ROFL. Would that be with or without my rollerblades? Seriously, you are such a hypocritcal bigot. Take a look at yourself.
“It’s surely got to be that or a friend of Dick’s”
He is amusing isn’t he Dick ;
I agree. And much of it by women.
There is also, incidentally, a terrible lack of respect and objectification of men in that same media. I note with interest that that has escaped your attention. Cute.
Leaving aside the anti-male vitriol, the present “status” of women in the media is almost entirely a result of the widely applauded Erica Jong/Isadora Wing school of feminism. They wanted women not to behave like men, but to behave like feminists’ worst perceptions of the most flawed men.
They got their wish, in spades, and women were treated by the media accordingly.
Your whinging on about the patriarchy really does place you solidly in the ’70’s. You’re sure you’re not an elderly spinster gender feminist who’s about 49, realizing she’ll never get a man, clinging desperately to her polyester power pantsuits? It’s surely got to be that or a friend of Dick’s.
-wolfe
Right, and in what part of your suburbia does that happen? And what the fuck does anything have to do with muslims? Racist.
-Dick
The Stepford wives that you mention had to be drugged into being a happy housewife. I, and other women like me, have no need of drugs. We’re wives and mothers because we enjoy it.
As for clothing - I will reference you to Dave Chappelle’s surprisingly insightful comedy.
“Hey, just because I’m dressed like a cop, doesn’t mean you can come to me for help…”
I knew someone would quote that. You are correct, equality can only be given, but it hasn’t been, which is why people like the Zen Priest and “hippy” Christian have noticed the backlash from my generation.
While they whinge and complain about the lack of respect from the younger generation, echoing no doubt what their own parents said about them, I can look at todays generation of teenagers and also express the exact same sentiments. But that’s just scapegoating isn’t it. You would have to be blind freddy not to realise that there is a terrible lack of respect and sexual objectification of women in the modern media. Doesn’t really seem to be any middle ground, you can either be a pornstar prostitute with an inflated chest and no clothes or you can cover yourself with a bhurka. Gangs of men can roam the streets and beaches gang raping whoever they please because hey, no clothes = whore, hijab = don’t touch, just marry. Meanwhile, men come to this site to bitch about women somemore and reinforce the whore stereotype, while the 1950s Stepford wife has substituted the muslim woman. The irony that Dick probably set up this site as a backlash against men being portrayed as idiots in the media, only to portray women as whores or braindead bimbos is extremely unfortunate. Not a good job dick.
If it’s forced, it isn’t equality.
If you do not see me as calm, I can understand it, but it’s quite hard to remain cool when you are constantly being provoked not to be.
If the men here don’t like my abrasive manner then they can thank the dominant hegemony of typically patriarchal corporate competition for making me a product of my environment. If the men here don’t like what women are becoming, they might try changing their, and our, world. Frothing at the mouth and calling women whores and bitches is not the way to do it.
Respect springs to me, unfortunately the only kind of respect I see the men here demonstrating is the kind only given if you are
1. male or
2. a woman that conforms to a 1950’s feminine archetype, which, no offense is a woman that keeps her mouth shut; does not have any opinions of her own; should only speak when supporting a man’s opinions.
It’s all too fundamentalist Islamic or quakerish for my liking. I don’t disagree with you that there would be less social problems if women compromised on some issues, but then if one says that, one should also say that there would be less social problems if men a