Something men oughta know, and then they blame women for neglect, yet they avoid any parental demands.

Oh of course, because everyone youv’e ever slept with has gotten a written contract with you that says you were on the pill or not on the pill. No one believes the man in the courtroom when he says “She said she was on the pill!” It’s unfair, and it’s biased, but it’s reality.

“Also, I think women should have to justify the way they spend the child support money because I doubt a toddler wears Prada shoes for instance.”

Yeah, because the government has the money, time and resources to track the spending of every single woman on the child support system. Even if they did, the fact that they have to is proof enough that the system should be abolished or at least redone.

“If you don’t want a child as a man, don’t fuck around.” What of the women? So everyone should just stop having sex unless they want kids. Congratulations married couples, don’t want a kid, have fun jerking it mister newly wed, aren’t you glad you spent 10000fuckingdollars on this waste of 200 of your friends weekends, no sex and she can take half of your shit!

kristina doesn’t even make any valid points and talks about horrible things that are classified as FUCKED UP. Who puts that much thought into graphic descriptions of torture, even if they are lying whores. All of you are anyway, they are only worse because they get more payment then you do.

So shut the hell up, and go smash your keyboard with a sledge hammer so we never have to hear your stupid opinions again. Fuck off Dick’s website.

~J

man killer said:

u are stupid

Oh shit!

Ahh and out comes the shaming language. Any time a woman want’s a man to do something that’s not in his interests she attacks his masculentity. You should do ___ otherwise your not “a real man”.

Women want men to “take care of their responsibilities” and then want to what “taking care of our responsibilities” entales. It usually involves sending them a lot of money. You want me to take care of my responsibilities? No problem. I’ll tell you want I’ll get sole custody of the kid and you can pay me child support. You can come by and see him when ever you want.

Oh but I forgot. According to government stat’s when women are forced to pay child support [and they almost never are] they: are ordered to pay much, much, less; become deadbeats much more often; and are much less likely to be jailed, or have their drivers license suspended for back support. So that wouldn’t work.

How about we just abolish child support. A person’s responsibilities should be proportional to their rights. And since men have no reproductive rights [eg. the ability to unilaterally discharge parental responsibility] they should have no reproductive responsibilities [being forced to pay child support].

Or how about being liable for child support because you knocked up some stupid slut who lied about being currently being infertile and who you later found out ALREADY HAD an abortion because she got knocked up by a pennyless ex-boyfriend. But since you’re not a lazy piece of shit and actually earn a living she all of the sudden becomes pro-choice; because she has a decent chance of getting her clutches into your earnings.

This is a simple case really. Either the ability to unilaterally discharge one’s parental responsibilities after a pregnancy has already occured is a right or it isn’t. Women can currently discharge their maternal responsibilities after a pregnancy has already occured via: abortion, adoption, or abandoment.

If you believe that you should be able to opt out of parenthood then that ‘right’ should be extended to men as well as women. If you believe that people shouldn’t be able to opt out of parenthood then it’s time to: outlaw abortion; repeal abandonment laws; and start charging women who put their child up for adoption child support to reimburse the state or adoptive couple for the cost of raising that child.

We can’t have a bunch of deadbeat moms running around now can we?

Delia Florea said:

As long as the two have consensual unprotected sex, I find it normal that the guy will pay for the child. Of course, if she lies about being on the pill or whatever stuff like that, then yes, she shouldn’t get crap.

Also, I think women should have to justify the way they spend the child support money because I doubt a toddler wears Prada shoes for instance. But besides that it’s just common sense that both parents should contribute to the child. If you don’t like the consequences don’t have sex. If you don’t want a child as a man, don’t fuck around.

And abortion shouldn’t be used because you didn’t want to use the condom or pill. That should be if by mistake something happened or the woman got raped or something, even though there are pills for after.

And don’t bash on kristina because she has some points that are valid.

No, we should go back to the past when men kept their children and the women went home to live with Dad. Men will deal with them. But Dads don’t want these burdens returning home and governments can’t afford all the lazy women, therefore child support was created. Time for change.

Say a man and a woman both decide to have a baby and then the woman becomes pregnant. However the woman changes her mind and wants an abortion. Legally she can, and the man’s child that he wants get killed (Even if he plans on raising the child alone).

Therefore a woman is able to change the terms of the oral contract at any time and what the man wants does not matter, according to law.

If you read between the lines the law is made knowing that female are weak minded so they are given special treatment. The fault is always given to the man for a pregnancy, even though female contraception exists. Condoms aren’t only made for men; actually females have many more forms of contraception than men.

Also, I think women should have to justify the way they spend the child support money because I doubt a toddler wears Prada shoes for instance. But besides that it’s just common sense that both parents should contribute to the child. If you don’t like the consequences don’t have sex. If you don’t want a child as a man, don’t fuck around.

And abortion shouldn’t be used because you didn’t want to use the condom or pill. That should be if by mistake something happened or the woman got raped or something, even though there are pills for after.

And don’t bash on kristina because she has some points that are valid.

Just give up now and I’ll give you a signed photo of my forum avatar.

‘Fuck off and die, lots of love, Necro’

kristina said:

Quit generalizing all women in the same category Dick…we arent all the same…

17yr olds aren’t WOMEN. They are girls; aka children.

Observe how this one feels entitled to goad her inexperienced misconceptions down everyone’s throat, like it’s the sacred word of Zeus. That’s what the entitlement syndrome does, it creates entitlement princesses (MABTW copyright of terms acknowledged).

The day society starts taking advice from 17yr old GIRLS no less, will be the day AFTER we got hit by some bigass meteorite, and only girlies survived it because Brave Men as you’d expect, would have honorably exercised their Titanical Manstincts.

“Thank you Sir” would seem to be a more appropriate response.

My dad pays child support when he doesnt have to…Why? because he is a true man…He takes care of his responsibilities(not that thats all he thinks of us) and he does it without complaining…

Quit generalizing all women in the same category Dick…we arent all the same…

sides if i ever get pregnant im giving the man a chance to be in his childs life or not…there wont be any childsupport especially if he doesnt want to be there for the child…and any support i recieve from him will befor MY baby not me…and i really dont care if you men believe me or not :/

Jason Michael Carroll: Alyssa Lies

jon said:

Men deserve equal rights in everything if women deserve equal rights in anything.

Thats the anti-thesis of Feminism

Female said:

Jon, let’s not make this unnecessarily personal. The fact is is that many men do have unprotected sex with women they barely know, apparently without giving a second thought to whether the act would result in a child. You therefore can’t blame women for perceiving that men do not have as large an investment in children as the women themselves, do.

How many men do you know that have had casual sex, who have rung up the woman 6 weeks later to ask her if she is pregnant and to say that if she fell pregant to him, that he would therefore like a say in whether or not she decides to have an abortion? Or who tried to change her mind about termination by offering to marry or support her? Yea, probably not too many.

“Probly not that many” “how many men do you knwo that had casual sex” Its not personal, because i dont have a child. Although its not men that have unpretected sex Female, its both women and men. You like always lay the responsiblilty of sex on males, and the decisions of money and children for the women. You are assumming all men having sex frequently, but i have statistics that say women are more secretive, and are more likely to be infidelity then men. What if the woman had sex with numerous men? Ya a babys a baby it doesnt matter if you had sex with an alien and you produced its your offspring and in american homes its tought to wait till marriage because if you get a woman pregnant you have to quit school and work manual labor. Thats a price men and women pay but my point is if it is not any of the mans decision of whether the child is allowed birth then she shouldnt be entitled to money. Do you know in more urban neighborhoods women used to have as many babies by as many men as they could for welfare checks. Women made the bank off of that and didnt pay for shit for the babies. The government finally put restrictions on that but women still get knocked up and use the situation to however it benefits them. That should be illegal because not only is a living being inside your stomach dying when you kill it but if you choose to give birth to it just for money thats a crime.

Men deserve equal rights in everything if women deserve equal rights in anything.

Female said:

Nor do I care.

You don’t know what ‘Devil’s advocate’ means but you use it anyway? Typical.

Necroswordsman said:

Female said:

I am merely the devil’s advocate.

First, more like the Devil’s whore, and second, you probably don’t even know that that means.

Nor do I care.

Female said:

I am merely the devil’s advocate.

First, more like the Devil’s whore, and second, you probably don’t even know that that means.