Use It Or Lose It — No Women In College
It has long been said that university is wasted on women. Grade school is wasted on them as well because women don’t need adding or spelling to sit on the couch all day and shop for fucking chicken ten minutes before their hungry man gets home, but that’s another point.
Unless they have some kind of school I don’t know about where women learn how to look thin, pretty, and shut the fuck up, all school is wasted on women. Want to know who agrees with me? MenAreBetterThanWomen’s Honorary Man of the Month for October, Sharon Dijksma. Congratulations Miss Dijk. Congratulations on the prestigious award and congratulations on having something that looks like dick in your name. That’s manly.
The amount of work a man does with his education is exactly the number of years between his graduation and the moment he dies. You may have some bullshit in your head (which means you shouldn’t be reading this in the first place because you’re a woman) telling you to point out retirement as an equally valid end point to an educated man’s utility, but that is false. Even retired men bust their ass every day. They build shit or they go spread their wisdom — in some cases forcing it down the throats of the young, but the point is men remain manly and productive until death. Fuck retirement.
Women don’t.
Women retire just as they live. They don’t do shit. A woman’s productive lifespan is exactly equal to two years after she graduates university to the moment she falls in love with one of her kiss-ass workmates. Obviously there is some variance depending on how attractive the woman is, however, this variance is normalized by the hiring process. Let me explain.
An attractive woman will be snatched up at the workplace in about six months. An ‘uggo’ or ‘fatty’ as they are called might flop around for an additional six. The she-troll, however, will take about that much longer to get hired in the first place. No woman is ever hired on her skills. It’s not because men are sexist or sexy or whatever women say. It’s because women have the same skills as tulips. They look pretty, they pollinate, and they decorate your mantastically majestic house. That is all.
Miss Dijk proposes and end to women and their sponging up all government subsidized education like it’s trash television. I call it the Use it or Lose it Plan. Would Dijksma’s legislation pass, Dutch women who earn degrees only to fuck and trap one of their statistically much smarter class man-mates — which every fucking one of them does, would be responsible for a whopping fucking fine to reimburse the government. If you ask me, they should be fined doubly for the perfectly well-working man ass they kept out of that classroom seat, but this is a baby step. A baby man-step.
This plan is fucking brilliant. And before you say anything, I know a woman didn’t think of it. Dijksma still gets credit for opening her big fat mouth about it though. Women should always get credit for doing what a man told them to do, even if they merely tried their best yet fucked up catastrophically. Technically, that was your fault as a man for expecting more out of a woman than you would out of a tulip.
The Use it or Lose it plan is exactly the same as taxing cigarettes. Should cigarette smokers have to pay for the increased government subsidy of smoking related illnesses. Yes they should and women have no business in college.
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So true. *Applauds*
Yup, Zog and Luka are upper echelon, quality trolls. The rest of them are aboulic. Reference you, Stef.
I read the comment. I did not think sots was either advocating zog’s beheading nor personally threatening her with it. I thought the no-posting rule for women was uncalled for but seeing sots vs. zog and the cavalry riding in to save her I see the wisdom of this rule now.
Sots’ comments went overboard (the husband stuff) but if he can’t speak his mind freely here where else can he? If he is to temper his comments let him do so on the grounds of being convinced that his anger is making him irrational (as calmer heads convince him). But if it is to create some good impression on certain women…well that’s not what this site is for.
And they want to run the WORLD…..!!!
Nice find
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Maybe, but the lasting stench will always be there and be there as a constant reminder.
I am all for blaming feminism on “women” as they stand to benefit the most from it and also assist in ensuring the denigration of all males is successfully carried out without so much as a single protest on their own barbaric behaviour.
The marriage strike is a plain and simple way of letting them know that they have made themselves unacceptable.
Also if any female on this site, moans and bitches because she is upset as she’s been told. That is just too bad. Don’t like it, then bugger off.
gwallan said:
I would suggest, Gentlemen, that we refuse to be divided or distracted. It is women who thrive on division and who often have no qualms about generating conflicts at the personal level if it suits their egos. And zogmama I do not belive you guilty of this here.
–Nor do I, and I agree as well that it’s women that thrive upon conflict in that manner.–
I’m in no position to criticise sons as I have been guilty of a similar, possibly worse, outburst quite recently. What I would point out is that even if you do not agree with his manner it is predictable. I’m surprised more men don’t react that way to feminism as it stands.
–So am I, I have a theory about it, I think its because many men are “conditioned” (look up behaviorism or anything by Skinner) by both society and their mothers, and through their mothers and society, limited to their contact with their fathers. I think that the loss of the ideal of fatherhood is a part of the whole cancer that is eating away at the foundation or fabric of society. –
Feminists still talk about “maintaining the rage”. They are singularly blind to the growing rage of many men. And men have far more reason for anger than the early feminists did. They do need to see men’s tolerance as a rubber band. The further it’s stretched the harder it snaps.
–In my opinion, many women don’t understand cause and effect. I don’t think that they can’t, I simply view it as a part of human nature, since they don’t HAVE to, they don’t have to understand it. However, its a basic fact of life. I think that many individual women understand that their power structure (based upon sex) is in danger of collapsing. I also think that many women see what is happening to Men and don’t like it at all. However like many people, they’re afraid to speak up about it.
– We as Men, in my view have a few choices in regards to Feminism, let it run its course, and allow it to destroy itself, accelerate its downward spiral, or try to create something better that allows all of us to live in peace. The question remains, what will we do?
-Strength and Honor-
son of the suns said:
abaddon_fff, I have no doubt of the impending destruction of the disease that is feminism.
But until then a man can be a pussy whipped failure who takes orders from a woman who cheats, lies, and steals and be an abomination before the divine, or live a cold life of loneliness. Sometimes it’s too painful to deal with.
-If he so chooses Son. That is his choice, and the only thing that you can really do is try to wake him up to the lie that is Feminism whether or not its worth it, is really up to you to decide.
zogmama said:
@abaddon: son has attacked me personally on the basis of physical characteristics, moral and ethical trespasses, and called me many, many crude and hurtful names. He has attacked my work, my family, and my morals.
–I never said anything about it being “right” zogmama. I simply explained why it is happening to you. Son of the sons is an extreme form of what feminism has done to a lot of Men in my view. What I am actually trying to do is show you that.
He doesn’t know me. I have not identified my politics. I am not an apologist for an entire gender, nor any specific subgroup. I express only what I know. I am perplexed by the fact that his angriest crusade against me is that I refuse to respond in kind against him, or against another man - my ex-husband.
–A good way of dealing with it zogmama in my view. —
The very suggestion that there may be exceptions to the rules set forth about women seems to anger him and causes him to project much anger toward me. His posts are increasingly violent in nature.
-I am not a medical professional, however one must ask where it all comes from? There are many variables that could be the root cause of this anger. I think there’s a general sense of frustration and anger caused by feminisms refusal to respond to Mens grievences, as well as the fact that many Men are waking up to how feminism has either ruined or enslaved them through the political process.
If you read my posts, you will see that I rarely bother to defend myself, but when he slurs my children, and my ex-husband, I draw the line. That’s the definition of strength and honor.
-I agree, and a line should be drawn in that situation zogmama, that’s the essence of Strength and Honor. The ability to draw a line, to have the strength to do so and the honor to accept the end result even if it goes bad for you.
-Strength and Honor-
-Lord of the Pit-
Wow, I didn’t realise other people here were into Ali-G and his antics.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4783683486841568387&q=borat&h l=en
Borat meets a senior fellow at Cambridge university who says women aren’t creative, but that they are clever.
Yes of course Wolfe your understanding of the beheading comment is what I meant. That’s why women shouldn’t be here, they can’t even comprehend the ways men communicate and misunderstand things and go away in tears and fear or just whine to death.
And I did join military to defend this republic after 9/11, not for college money or something to put on a future resume. I’ve seen things more terrible than war. I’ve seen warriors defending a people that don’t give a fuck, who’s wives have left them or are pregnant with another man’s child when they return home from protecting them. Such treachery is no longer even taboo in the US.
What do battle hardened warriors do when they return home to feminist utopia? How do they fit in? They don’t. And I fear the consequences of what is to come..
An excellent post, gwallan. Sots has every reason to be angry about what feminism has wrought. I don’t blame him one bit. Yeah, I don’t think Zogmama deliberately set out to do this. If I did, I’d have made it clear I wanted a pox on her house. (In case any literalist women are reading, that’s what we in the writing trade call a ‘metaphor’, rather than a suggestion that biological warfare should be employed against her)
I won’t be a cause of division, and I hope sots understands that. That’s precisely why I say that while I disagree with the tone of Sot’s posts, now that he’s made it clear he wasn’t threatening anyone (which I didn’t believe in the first place), my position is that the final bottom line is that he’s the one with the right to post; she’s the one with the right to be offended, given site rules. Not fair perhaps, but extremely clear.
I ask Sots to consider his strategy and the effect he’s having. I also asked him to consider who he was using it on. (see post 53) I didn’t repeatedly ask, since he’ll either listen to one request or none. No point pestering the man. I did speak up again when it was clear there was an imbroglio.
The problem as I see it is this: anger is often a weapon in the hands of your adversary.
Righteous anger is a good thing, even a holy thing. And sots’ anger against feminism is certainly the former. But it’s a very dangerous thing as well, as any who study the divers fields of fighting/battle/argument/dialogue know.
-wolfe
I disagree. I will say this much: I’ve lived with the virus of feminism and seen its malign affects for a great many years now. I’ve seen families destroyed by it, and careers crippled. Asleep I’m not.
I concur. Worse yet, I’d bet there are some pretty horrible travesties and molestations being committed in our prisons, against male inmates by female guards. Remember where most of that crew on prison detail came from … they were domestic prison guards in civilian life. And yes, “Pfc” England had no business being there, and didn’t merit the title or the uniform.
No, but that’s neither here nor there. You are mistaken if you believe I think every women should be treated with extraordinary deference. Merely those that merit it. See below.
I don’t know what Dakota thinks.
That’s not the quote.
Note the boldface bit. While it may well be that somewhere between 90 and 99% of American/Western women are no good, hence unworthy of being treated that way, until they have proven otherwise via their actions or words (which they often do upon typing a single sentence upon entry to this site) I believe it appropriate to treat them as though they are worth it.
Your views may differ, and I certainly respect that. But I’d ask you to consider my approach. I believe most women fall into one of several categories:
1. Crazed feminists, cannot be redeemed.
2. Spoiled lunatics.
3. Inflicted with the illness of feminism but possible to communicate with.
4. Semi-rational human beings.
5. Entirely rational human beings.
I have met few in category 4, but a fair number in category 3. I have yet to meet any in category 5, but then very few men fit that as well. A great many women are as you suggest:
Consider what you are realistically achieving with zogmama.
You had her convinced (stupidly, I’d think, but Dakota saw it too. Go figure) that you were threatening violence against her.
Here’s what I saw your whole beheading statement as:
You can tell me if that’s accurate.
But that’s not what she (reasonably, I guess, since Dakota saw it too) saw. So, she goes away from the site convinced that you are a crazy scary nut. This is irrational of her, but not patently unreasonable, given Dakota’s own conclusions.
And you’ve solved nothing. You’ve gained nothing for the cause.
I am quite happy to have category 1 and 2 women go away from this site thinking “lolz these guyz are all crazy/fagz/evil/stupid hahahaha”. There is no reasoning with them, and they simply waste bandwidth.
I would prefer to have category 3-5 women going away thinking something between (”They don’t want me here” to “Maybe those guys have a point”).
Now, maybe you believe all women are category 1-2. If so, we disagree. Fair enough. Maybe you don’t care if all women go away thinking this site is filled with stupid/evil/crazy men. Also fair enough. If you think either of those two things though, consider my points and think about them.
You may also think zog is a category 1-2 woman. I don’t. Moreover, I believe some of the most powerful allies in the years ahead will be mothers of sons that watch their boys growing up in feminist utopia.
No question. Feminism has become (if it was ever anything else, which is questionable) a highly damaging and incredibly destructive force that likely will reap a whirlwind. But I do believe many women are at least dimly aware that there is something not quite right with the present state of our society — 6 year olds dressing as skanks, huge out of wedlock birth rates, men rapping about women as ‘hos and b*tches, and women going for the bling.
I think we’re better off engaging those women that we can and making them think.
I don’t think of you that way at all. And make no mistake. Under the strict rules of this site, you’ve got the right to say whatever you want to say and zogmama has the right to … be offended and say nothing.
You served — this would have been true in peacetime as well — to help defend our rights to speak freely. That may or may not have been your goal, but that was one of the benefits for civil society. I honor that service.
All that said, you are gravely mistaken to believe I am asleep or naive.
With respect for you, and great respect for your service,
-wolfe
Oh, and Zogmama, thy name is discord.
‘Cherchez la femme!’ as some would say. Another inate womanly trait.
If I recall accurately, I told you this place will grow on you. Now if only you can grow on Son or Dick. Or a tree if it will please all parties involved?
Will suffice :)?
Cheers.
I wish to apologise, before hand, to any right wingnuts/libertarians I may often with this:
-I see crazy people
-In your dreams?
-…
-On Capitol Hill?
-…
-Crazy people, like in the NRA? Amok?
-Walking around like regular people. They’re not sane to each other. They’re only sane when they want to be sane. They don’t know they’re crazy.
-How often do you see them?
-All the time. They’re everywhere.
Just good wholesome humour from a not so leftist pinko.
Cheers.
I’ve decided that wolfe is right and I’m going to take the high road on this one. Give it a few weeks, come back, and decide what your post about beheading reads like from an outside perspective. I’ve said all I’m going to.
Just want to be clear: if I witness an initiation of force against anyone near me, I’ll defend the victim. If stopping that initiation of force means a bullet between the perpetrator’s eyes, I’ll not hesitate.
That said, I hope I’m never in a position to need to do it.
I am entirely aware of that. My point, again, is that that there are people who view soldiers as inherently bloodthirsty and sadistic. If a soldier intimates that someone should be beheaded, they lend credence to those peoples’ views. It’s not fair and I don’t like it, but that’s the way it is.
Dakota: When the fuck did I say I was going to behead Zog? I merely said that feminists are the same type of scum that has been cast from power and killed by the oppressed all through history. I never said I would be doing the beheading, or even be alive before the men of this planet wake the fuck up. Obviously you and Wolfe are still fast asleep. And as far as you and your friends shooting me to death, I can only say “wow”. This is why women should be banned from posting here.
And here’s some knowledge for you about the Iraqi prison travesty: The most egrigious acts commited such as the piling up of naked men on top of eachother and torchering them was commited by a FEMALE probably bisexual sadist who has no business in a war anyway.
Wolfe: Prior to “womens liberation” or as I call it “the rise of decadence and the countdown death clock of the West”.. 99% men treated women the same way you and Dakota do. Did it stop the plague that has spread across this world? Are your continuing naive attitudes that “women are to be loved, cherished, and respected” going to stop it now? Western women are a spoiled child in their teens, they’ve been given allowances they don’t earn, cheated, lied, stealed, and are fast approaching violent destruction and bringing the entire house with them. You don’t simply change the course of a bad apple’s life by calling them stupid and showing them the way, they won’t listen. Some times it calls for more aggressive measures.
But I have to go because the creatine I took has absorbed into my blood and it’s time for a work out, that’s what blood thirsty neanderthal vets like me do best..
I would suggest, Gentlemen, that we refuse to be divided or distracted. It is women who thrive on division and who often have no qualms about generating conflicts at the personal level if it suits their egos. And zogmama I do not belive you guilty of this here.
I’m in no position to criticise sons as I have been guilty of a similar, possibly worse, outburst quite recently. What I would point out is that even if you do not agree with his manner it is predictable. I’m surprised more men don’t react that way to feminism as it stands.
Feminists still talk about “maintaining the rage”. They are singularly blind to the growing rage of many men. And men have far more reason for anger than the early feminists did. They do need to see men’s tolerance as a rubber band. The further it’s stretched the harder it snaps.
Here’s the corrected post. Wordpress really needs to improve their parser.
Relax.
No one posting here, with the exception of Big Al, and the debatable exception of Dakota’s earlier posts is covering himself/herself with glory.
This is pointless and futile.
I’ll take this opportunity to say this, since I’ve been pondering it for a while.
This site has some brilliant writing. Dick is a very smart guy. Some of the other people posting here are not dim either.
I perceive a substantial shift in tone towards women posting here. It’s evolved from “Honey, you’re no Einstein” to multiple people all chiming “F— off the site, c—” upon early posts.
Something I really liked about this site from day one, was Dick’s straightforward MANtra — “men are better than women, but we don’t hate women”.
It was a good response. It was an accurate response.
I don’t think Sots meant to threaten Zogmama with beheading. Dakota does, Zog does, some others do. (Maybe sots did in which case obviously I didn’t read him well). It was, nevertheless a tasteless remark. So too was Zog continuing to post and accuse him of such.
My three principles for this site?
1. Women aren’t the enemy;
2. Feminism is the enemy.
3. Men are better than women. (—- most important.
Now: here’s an important point. Men tend to defend women, especially women for whom we have some very modest degree of empathy, and that’s pretty easy. Whether it’s genetically hard-wired or cultural conditioning (I suspect a combination of both), it happens.
That’s one of the reasons Dick is generally against women posting here. It triggers defense like Dakota’s — and mine. I deliberately overcome my ‘feelings’ about what’s been said here, because the game isn’t worth the candle.
The bottom line?
1. I don’t like what Sots said (nor does Dakota).
2. Sots has a right to say what he wants to say here as long as he’s within Dick’s rules.
3. Zogmama doesn’t. Not fair, true. But site rules. Dick has bent over backwards to let me run my blog off his bandwidth the way I want to, and even let me mod a forum using his site, traffic and bandwidth the way I wanted to. An enemy of free speech, Dick ain’t.
4. I see and am troubled by a generally deteriorating tone on this site based, seemingly, upon misogyny.
I hope this post will contribute to some sober second thought. If women want to post in response to it (explicitly including criticizing and arguing with my views) they are welcome to over at wolfe’s Musings. Post there; don’t post further here is my advice.
To close.
1. Men are better than women.
2. That doesn’t mean women are awful, or anything less than (in the case of a good woman) to be cherished, loved and respected.
3. Nor does it mean men are perfect.
-wolfe
This discussion has turned into a real class act.
Well, what can I say? I’m as offended at his threat to behead zogmama as I am by Female’s threats to emasculate men. At least with Female, we’d be alive to fight another day. zogmama would just be dead.
Plus, he served his country in a warzone, veteran if I gather correctly. Which is a hell of a lot more than can be said of a great deal many of Americans, including yourself.
So? If anything, being a veteran requires him to hold himself to a much higher standard.
There are people in the US (myself emphatically not among them) who believe that people in the military are inherently bloodthirsty. They think that the Iraq prison scandal is standard procedure and that soldiers in general enjoy tormenting and/or torturing prisoners.
By threatening to behead zogmama like an Iraqi terrorist, he lends credence to the views of those kinds of people.
son, that you’re in no position to take the moral high ground after threatening behead zogmama a la Iraqi terrorists. In fact, in doing so, you’ve lost all of your credibility. You’re just ranting incoherently. See some of the female posters we get around here if you want to see what you look like now.
Furthermore, be advised that if you ever attempt to actually implement your beheading plan, you will find me between you and your intended victims.
I’ll bring friends. We’ll all have guns — I’m looking at my Kimber Custom Classic as I write this and imagining how good a .45-inch hole would look between the eyes of someone so barbaric as to hack a person’s head off.
Dakota, you strike me as fickle.
Son may be more than a tad over the line but that’s no reason to lash out at him like that, especially as you’re the third party entirely uninvolved in the delayed remote discussion between two adults, complete strangers to one another.
Plus, he served his country in a warzone, veteran if I gather correctly. Which is a hell of a lot more than can be said of a great deal many of Americans, including yourself.
That said, I hope we can have discussions here devoid of any future undue animosity between established contributors of witful and insightful commentaries. If not, so be it also.
Even more lacking of honor is a smaller and weaker person using threat of violence and government coercion to execute a worldwide mass movement of femimism that kills everything good in it’s wake from faith to family. An afront to nature and an abomination before the divine.
Very telling, if it’s true that son has witnessed such violence.
Intimidating a physically smaller person through violence, or the threat thereof, is effective. It is victory without honor, in my estimation, but you can’t argue its efficacy.
~Z~
I don’t know what your damage is, son, but that was way the hell over the line in about fifty different respects.
Spoken like a man, Dakota.
Making mistakes isn’t a problem. Failing to learn from mistakes is a problem.
Unless you’re a woman, of course.
-Big Al
Zogmama, I really admire the way you are handling the situation here with respect to Son. Great to see someone on this board with that level of maturity and strength of character. Hats off to you madam!
Son, your posts are swimming with intense fury and hate, your constant references to declaring war upon women and violence against women is quite disturbing, to say the least.
I have one question for you: how are you going to change the state of the world (specifically in regards to women) with all that energy, emotion and outrage you have expressed? I think in part in you there is a justified and righteous anger but directing at zogmama is not going to improve the state of affairs for men (or for women).
Actually, that is factually incorrect. Known exceptions strengthen the rule.
Nothing violent about that.
~Z~
Just what are the “violent” points of my posts? Typical cunt thinks any man who doesn’t swallow her “universal truths” need “re-educated”.
It’s cunts like you trying to shut men up with their opinions that will result in real violence. Soon the feminists will meet a fate like French aristocrats during the revolution.
Don’t worry, when I was in Iraq the public beheadings I witnessed looked painless.
@son: I’m sorry for your pain - you can believe that or not - but it’s true. I don’t know if it eases that pain to vent against me on this site, but there may be someone out there that would ease your loneliness. There is always an exception that proves the rule - and I hope you find that.
Peace.
~Z~
abaddon_fff, I have no doubt of the impending destruction of the disease that is feminism.
But until then a man can be a pussy whipped failure who takes orders from a woman who cheats, lies, and steals and be an abomination before the divine, or live a cold life of loneliness. Sometimes it’s too painful to deal with.
@abaddon: son has attacked me personally on the basis of physical characteristics, moral and ethical trespasses, and called me many, many crude and hurtful names. He has attacked my work, my family, and my morals.
He doesn’t know me. I have not identified my politics. I am not an apologist for an entire gender, nor any specific subgroup. I express only what I know. I am perplexed by the fact that his angriest crusade against me is that I refuse to respond in kind against him, or against another man - my ex-husband.
The very suggestion that there may be exceptions to the rules set forth about women seems to anger him and causes him to project much anger toward me. His posts are increasingly violent in nature.
If you read my posts, you will see that I rarely bother to defend myself, but when he slurs my children, and my ex-husband, I draw the line. That’s the definition of strength and honor.
Respectfully submitted,
~Z~
I agree with much of what Son of the suns says. I honestly don’t know if zogmama is that way, however the archtypes that he mentions aren’t singularities in modern society, they are the standard.
@zogmama, Feminism creates a good deal of mysogyny. It really isn’t self hatred in my view. Its having to deal with bags of shit that call themselves women. The complete double-standard of “gender-relations. The utter hypocrisy of feminism. What you see in son, is actually what many men feel. We aren’t born this way, we are created. How long do you have to be told that you’re a violent, rapist, oppressor before you start to become one? As to your family life, hey that sucks, but like I said in a previous post, what you’re getting is but a small taste of what men recieve everyday. Feminism and the divorce industry churns out about 2000 divorced males every day that you wake up. The force that you despise is in fact created by your sisters in arms. I don’t think that you are a bad person at all, personally I think that you have had to deal with a great deal of adversity, however so have I, and much of it has been caused by women. For the record, I don’t hate women, as much as I hate their mindset, their thought processes, and their perception of reality.
@son of the suns- Soon the feminist blight will be completely destroyed, feminism is an inherently entrophic system and is destroying itself. We actually don’t have to do anything, but if we decide to it will simply speed the process up.
-Strength and Honor-
So does this mean you’re leaving and never coming back? Shouldn’t saints like you be doing volunteer work in Africa while Tabliban types like me should “vent self hatred” on this site which you’re not even fucking permitted to talk?
And my hatred is not of myself, it’s for females. Don’t worry, I wasn’t born a “sexist”. But the forces that made me one will soon be decimated and destroyed.
People make mistakes - some people forgive those mistakes, while others vent their self-hatred everywhere. I’ve made my choice, and son has made his.
~Z
you are obviously the one who wants attention. and how would being bitter help anything? so what if she doesnt want to call him a scumbag? could it possibly be that she’s better than that?? people make no sense sometimes.
You tell me the value of short men Zogmama, apperently you’re so obsessed with appearence that you supported a fucking dirtbag and refuse to call him so even when he cheated.
Or, you could just fuck off the site since you’re not wanted. Either way I’m going to drink beer so you’ll be talking to yourself the next 8 times you reply and beg for attention.
@son: I “admitted” my ex-husband was over 6 feet? Is that some sort of shameful thing? Are all the good men under 5′8″? I’m quite sure that none of us can be blamed for our genetics. We grow, then we stop growing. End of story.
My father, a man of great character and principle, is 5′2″ tall, but that’s not why he’s a good man. He’s a good man because he is fair and intelligent and kind. I’m seriously puzzled by your height/value scale for men.
Respectfully submitted,
~Z~
Dakota, because I can percieve vast information about people merely by hearing what they say and how they speak. Female the insane cunt calls it “emotional intelligence”. I like to call it “political insights”. Much more manly.
Women are nothing like men. All women have a dark selfish impulse that they’ll do anything and anyone to achieve. For some it’s gold and loot, other’s it is drama, and some it’s all about procreating with the most “genetically superior” man they can trap by any means possible. So when zogmama the slut started talking about supporting her hubby for 12 years and then he cheated on her, I already suspected she was the the last type. When she admitted he was over 6′ tall and refused to call him anything negative for his degenerate actions, I knew it to be true. The man was nothing but walking baby batter to her.
Zogmama, yes I have been rejected before. Wow, you got me. But explain to me what’s your fucking point? Thanks for proving the laws of women though. Meanwhile, you’re still a body worshipping idolator and if hubby wanted another chance you wouldn’t have a second thought. Because the only thing women like more than a man who beats them.. is a man who cheats on them.
@Son, I think you’re quite off-base on zog, based upon the evidence. I think even Dakota is wrong on Female, but unlike zog, she’s given him plenty of evidence to think as he does. And lest any think I’m going to defend all women posting here, seeing Sandra’s lack of punctuation gives me a headache, and seeing smrtpants’ abuse of punctuation gives me a bigger headache. Other men think those two have things worth reading, so fair enough.
I do think unleashing heavy firepower on every woman that posts is sort of pointless, and I’ve seen some increasingly disturbing things over the last few weeks.
@John - Yeah, I spent part of my formative years in French Canada, and hit the “madelles” (for non-french, Ms., only with an even bigger chip on their shoulders, if you can imagine) at about age 12. Spent the rest in US, and some time working in the UK, so have some knowledge of all three countries.
It was a thoroughly unpleasant experience, and really rattled my naive, generally pro-feminist views of the time. Sadly for me, these views didn’t get completely eliminated until my early 20’s.
Excellent question. I’d guess the destruction of the nuclear family made it possible for truly large numbers of women to become so nasty. Certainly misandry started it off with the initial feminists, but it really couldn’t metastasize until the nuclear family had been so badly crippled.
No argument there. Let’s hope their new government becomes a majority one and is around for 10-15 years.
Yeah, I don’t know enough about Aus first hand to really rate how much of a feminist mess they’re in, though I can judge a little by what people post here. So I certainly shan’t argue your ranking.
-wolfe
Wolfe,
I have to admit that I didnt tend to run into the evil feminist woman until I was almost 18. Up to that point every one of my friends, male and female were polite and easygoing. Even for dating. (In canada BTW) but ALL of them were still living with thier birth parents ( +2 Adoptions). The first really nasty woman I ran into was living with just her mother, and so did all HER friends, who were just as nasty as I later learned. It makes me wonder about the chicken and the egg problem. Do women become nasty because of a feminist culture of mysandry, or do women become nasty because the feminist destruction of the nuclear family?
(If any woman wants to argue about how this culture isnt full of misandry, the NEXT email joke you get, reverse the genders. If it isnt funny anymore then its just man-hating trash)
It seems that all western societies are embracing feminism, and that the more socialist those societies were to start, the faster that feminism spread. Canadas’s embrace of socialism is a right royal pain, and my governments general leanings towards it have only helped the feminist movement, given feminism is primarily a socialist movement to begin with.
I’d put Canada and Aus at the top, followed by britain then US. Some of the news articles coming out of Britain on Angry Harry are truly Frightening to read!
@Dakota: never mind. Rants like son’s are what make women bitter to begin with. He is blinded by something in his past - serial rejection by women? I can’t say, because I don’t judge people without knowing them.
Anyone with that much bitterness is unhappy indeed. As for my ex being good looking? In the eye of the beholder, I suppose. I’m not old, I’m not a hag, and my children are not fatherless.
@son: as the truth about me is of no concern to you, I won’t waste my time correcting your cruel assessment of me and my family. However, I believe that refusing to resort to a cruel, crude, and unfair characterization of my ex-husband shows altruism, indeed. I strive to treat others as I wish to be treated: with fairness and without being unkind.
~Z~
I guess what I don’t understand, son, is this:
How are you able to glean all this information from zagmama based on what she’s posted? How can you tell, for example, that her ex was good looking? Maybe I missed it, but I don’t see enough in her posts to come to any conclusion one way or the other.
Again, for purposes of helping me in any future relationships I might have, I’m honestly curious how you can tell these things about her.
It’s no great magical power, I just look at a person’s entire picture. The now is only the now, there is also the past. Unfortunately in real life, you have not much chance of knowing a women’s true past because they’re serial liars.
And in my opinion an old middle aged hag who has become a moderate rather than a raving lunatic feminist, is barely above a lifetime faithful like Germs.
In some ways it’s even more disgusting to me, because lots of these women have the baggage of their failure past and now they’re “reformed” and everyone’s suppose to just deal with it and welcome them and their fatherless children. Whereas people like Female and Germs will just die unloved and alone and no one has to deal with them except their whore friends, if they don’t die of AIDS first.
Well, I can’t argue with my own past misjudgements: they speak for themselves.
I’m curious how you can so easily tell the kind of person zogmama is, then. In the immortal words of Algore, I’m “serial.” If she’s the way you’re describing her, how can you tell? If I’m missing something that obvious, I’d honestly like to know what you’re seeing because it would be legitimately useful to me in judging women in the future.
Big surprise zogslut you’re poor “unfaithful spouse” is over 6 feet tall and gave you years of wasted time and you lack the altruism to call him what he is: A piece of trash. It’s to be expected, you are a woman.
In the meantime, an American male at 5′8 or less who may have the personal qualities of Christ himself can’t even get a date with picky little body idolaters like yourself.
Dakota: I could give a fuck what she says or does now, the fact is she’s just another used up slut who decides past her prime when the skin starts sagging after she’s bred with scummy thugs purely for their looks, that it’s time to “settle down” and stop being such a harpie. But, she didn’t decide anything, the simple fact is none of the pretty boys want her anymore.
Dakota, you have said yourself that you lack the neccessary tools to see into women’s true nature, I however do not. And as far as shitting on Female and germs, everyone knows they’re sick little pervs and has told them so plenty. I’ll take this battle. Because there’s nothing that disgusts me more than females being degenerates and living in sin up until their prime is over then “settling” for the only thing that will take them. I saw on some Christian show some 30 yr old cunt who left her perfect home and husband 8 years earlier, lived life as a full blown carpet eater the whole time, begs her pussified husband to take her back and the IDIOT does. 8 years of abandonement and outright sin. Sad and pathetic man that takes “that” back.
@son of the suns: I don’t consider the father of my children a scumbag, a thug, or a dirtbag; nor have I said anything of the sort on or off this site. He was an unfaithful spouse - nothing more, nothing less - and he most emphatically does not deserve what you’ve posted about him. He is, however, over 6 feet tall - I’ll grant you that.
@Dakota: thanks for being fair - I’m also from the northern plains (my father grew up near Pierre, my mother near Aberdeen) - and I appreciate your clear-headed, independent spirit.
~Z~
@son: I’m unclear about the ire directed at zogmama. To me, she sounds like one of the good ones, few and far between though they may be.
I think your accusation that she’s come to the site to find a man to support her is extremely misplaced. Regardless of what eHarmony may want you to think, the Internet is a terrible place to find a mate, and this site would be the last place a sane woman would look for one on the Internet.
It sounds like she made a mistake in the man she married, true. But then, so did I. Living in a glass house as I am, I think I’m in a poor position to throw stones.
In all, I think it’s really inappropriate to be coming down on her like this. If you want to come down on someone, choose one of the serious nutbars that come around. You know the ones: the types who support pedophilia as long as it’s boys, or advise young girls to break hearts if it will help them get ahead.
zogmama hasn’t said anything like that, so what’s the deal? I grant you, she violates the site rules by posting here, but she’s not disruptive like the last 98 out of a hundred women who’ve posted.
My only point is that you supported some scumbag pretty boy who fucked you once a week when he wasn’t fucking your friends, listening to rap, or doing whatever else the thugs and dirtbags feminists like you are so in love with do.
Oh well, I bet he was over 6 feet tall and good looking, you got to propagate his “superior genes”, and now you’re here on a site of hard working, godly, wealth creating, thinking men to find some dumbfuck to take care of you and your mistakes the second Nasa realizes you don’t know your fat ass from a o-ring, and fires you. Ooooo the truth the truth, how beautiful and true it burns through the pathetic deceptions of the cunt.
As far the “opninions of this site”, I’m a man and have my own opinions, some that this site shares, some it does not. Unlike you and your ilk, I’m not some useless pack animal cunt hivemind who is easily brainwashed by Orca or Gloria Steinem.
@son of the suns: men on this site state that women hate babies and make lousy parents and should work for a living and support themselves, yet you turn around and appear to be criticizing me for supporting my husband so that he could stay home and raise our children.
believe me, he wasn’t able to do that without my dimes.
pick a position and stick with it.
~z~
I can state with confidence that these women are prevalent in Canada and the UK as well. I am told they are ubiquitous in Australia and NZ. My observations suggest that the US was the source of much of the feminist mindset especially later waves of gender feminism.
The condition appears to have metastasized to the greatest degree in Canada, probably because of the country’s sad mid-to-late 20th century propensity for feel-good irrational socialist nonsense. The UK is probably next, then Aus or the US (almost as bad).
-wolfe
I’m going to cover most of your post thusly:
I can’t help what I’ve observed over 40 years, but observe it I have. I choose not to ignore it or wish it wasn’t so, but rather to do what I can about my little corner of the world and then not worry about the rest.
And I can’t speak for other men on the site. As always, these represent my interpretation and your mileage may vary.
I would characterize them as women from my generation or later living in the United States (though this may well apply to any country that’s embraced feminist dogma). Essentially any woman born from 1960 to the present in the US.
I doubt there’s anything men can do about it. If women are to be turned from their pathologically self-destructive behavior, it has to come from other women.
Unlikely, considering that the period of pathologically self-destructive behavior coincides exactly with increased freedom among individual women. Were there a causal relationship, then self-destructive behavior should have been observed during the period of highest oppression. As it turns out, exactly the reverse is true: as women have become more free, they’ve chosen to behave increasingly self-destructively.
That last statement rather speaks for itself, sadly.
I’m curious: do you have see anything wrong with advising a woman to break mens’ hearts and/or balls if it will help her get ahead in life? Do you have any conception that this sort of behavior is self-destructive in the long term, particularly to young women like Sandra?
I find it curious that you are addressing her (S) as though she, herself, is not a woman - ‘Man ipulation’ Technique Exhibit #1
Now which ‘both cases’ are you referring to here: your lifetime’s worth of observance & the wonderful woman that your mother is; or, the wonderful woman that your mother is & your ‘full-blown’ slants…?
Either way you are attempting to ease S’s defences by showing a single, isolated example [albeit substantial since it is your mother after all] of a woman who didn’t betray you and behave in the more ‘habitchual’ ways that you claim women are wont to do. Then you ‘identify’ with her on the ‘feminist’ plane - ‘Man ipulation’ Technique Exhibit #2
{Also, your conclusion that you “learned better by experience in both cases” is more ambiguous than not, however nicely phrased; I have to lend it to you for committing at least two acts of logical fallacy so seamlessly…brilliant.}
How very socially productive of that uniform/unanimous [not true btw as some gentle-men actually tell it like it is...give and take, tit for tat, etc.] population/sample of men to run to a safe-site where they can express those “unpopular views” - that’s really being ‘part of the solution’ isn’t it - ‘Penis & Placebo Penis Pity Party’ Exhibit #1
Boo Hoo.
Playing the victim is so… unbecoming. For anyone - ‘Penis & Placebo Penis Pity Party’ Exhibit #2
Like women have never been ’screwed’ by some ’slickcock’ who seemed to have his shit together, but later turned out to be some parasite, either emotionally or financially, more often than never both!
Oh, is that all.
And just who are “Modern women”? And if they’re still in the “turning into” phase there must still be time to do something about it - right [instead of just 'write'] this great wrong.
Hmmm, I wonder if this “nasty” phase could have anything to do with the suppression, abuse, etc. that women have endured over the ages…starting with being blamed for mankind’s sufferings by tempting the weakest of weak with a silly ‘ol apple… - ‘Penis & Placebo Penis Pity Party’ Exhibit #3
As Yoda would say “do or do not, there is no try”, so Sandra do yer’ thing [girlfriend] and make no apologies for it - you mustn’t allow yourself to be ‘Man ipulated’ into joining this ‘Penis & Placebo Penis Pity Party’, unless of course you have ulterior motives and can make it work for you…without breaking too many balls, I mean hearts…
Sandra, what drives our mistrust of women is generally a lifetime of having observed them.
In point of fact, my mother is a wonderful person who raised two happy, well-adjusted children. When I was in college, I was a full-blown small-c communist and a feminist.
I learned better by experience in both cases.
The thing that feminists who come to this site