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manhole said:

[TL;DR]

There once was a pauper named Dave
Who stole from a prostitute’s grave
She was missing a tit
And had worms in her clit
But think of the money he saved.

Heinrich_Himmler said:

Prostitution is illegal here for the same reason wimmen HATE strip clubs, porn, and other wimmen….

It’s COMPETITION.

Dick has a very interesting take on the prostitution thing and one i’d never heard before. Maybe its one of many reasons.

Sex is the VERY LAST thing in the USA that hasn’t been branded, commercialized, and given a brand name and copy right. Of course, if they legallized prostitution, this would take about 5 minutes to happen. But quite obviously, there are worse things that happen here, every single day - its my firm belief that the Crazy Korean at VA Tech would not have busted caps on 33 people if he’d gotten laid every night for a week before. Same goes for the two kids at Columbine, for that matter. And there’s not a soul reading this who would have hesitated to chip in for ditto, had they known before the fact.

I guess the obvious message is, we’d rather have murderous, rage-filled, nut cases among us than legalize the ability to “purchase” something that every psychologist or even the frikken mailman could tell you is a basic human need. And if they could we might have a little better bunch of people around us - I live in California and i can tell you it really can’t get much worse!

…But a lot more people would be dying of AIDS and Hepatitis. If prostitution were legal mostly all guys including myself would go through with it contract a disease and spread it to the normal girls they fuck, who will spread it to the next guy. The US would turn into another Africa

Maddy said:

I seriously doubt that any of you guys would be singing the same tune if it were your daughter, sister, mother or wife who was a prostitute. Think about it…if you were the bastard child of a prostitute, would you feel the same way? If your daughter was getting paid to blow strangers, how would you feel about that? Look at it from that standpoint.

No. It is not our fault they chose to do it. They could have gotten a real job instead.

Didn’t the bible talk about how the WHORE OF BABYLON was a sign of the end times? Isn’t the fact that america is founded on a christian belief system (puritanism and Calvinsim) the reason that prostitution is illegal?

You Fail to asses your facts, and the historical origins of the laws you write about. Therefore, you question it’s illegality on what you percieve, not what the lawmakers percieve

Zooliv said:

Of course there is a tremendous difference, for a woman, between rape and consentual, blissful sex. It’s the difference of willingly paying for something that you want, and being robbed.

The woman is, in the blissful sexual experience, using her sexual charms to “purchase” the affections–and maybe the wallet–of the man in question. She has chosen this man, deciding that he is worthy–in terms of his social status, his monetary ability, his physical appearance (which matters though it does not stand alone as a woman’s may for a man) and his demeanor (how he makes her “feel”)–and through those traits she is judging, from biological perspective, whether or not she is willing to potentially have his baby.

A stranger who jumps in without satisfying any of the requirements is potentially, from a biological or evolutionary standpoint, saddling this woman with a child carrying his unworthy genes. He’s sowing the seeds without buying or even renting the field. Someone else tilled the land. He is not a capitalist, who works for a living, he’s the exact opposite–a thief!

To this effect, the difference between the two is huge. A woman who has consensual sex has already done the “math” in her head. Depending on her actual or perceived self worth, this man is worth the cost, and she may be free to enjoy the experience, which is leading her somewhere she wants to go. Whether she’s a girlfriend of a worthy man, or a prostitute for a man who has the required fee, she’s getting what she believes she is worth for ths experience–and if she isn’t, she won’t be happy and will ultimately change her behavior if she is to improve herself. But either way she makes the choice, bad or good.

Rape is the exact opposite. Since a woman’s brain is so focused on not getting stuck with just anybody’s kids, she cannot possibly feel anything but totally violated when she not only has no choice, but doesn’t even know the person. These could be anybody’s genes she will now have to raise! And if he couldn’t find a willing woman, it’s more than likely the genes aren’t too great.

Men think differently because a sexual encounter, in the natural state of being, does not result in his having to raise crummy kids. He doesn’t have to spend nine months gestating and then years raising the kid–unless he chooses to (or in the modern world, is forced to by law, convention, morality, etc–which are irrelevant when we are speaking, as we are, from a biological perspective). So he doesn’t naturally worry all the particularly much about the consequence of an ill-conceived interaction, and even being “raped” by a woman, if such a thing could happen, would not have the same magnitude of psychological consequence for him.

A lot of people on here seem to be able to use logic extremely well up to the point when it doesn’t support what they want to do, and then they abandon it. If you are trying to think from a biological, or evolutionary point of view, then you can’t keep considering sex as an end in itself when taking this approach. While in the modern world, science has allowed us to eliminate many consequences so that it can be treated as such, the fact remains that this urge to have sexual intercourse exists for a biological reason, and a lot of the psychology surrounding it has more to do with those animal instincts and procreation than it does with your personally getting your rocks off.

Moral: the desire of a woman not to be raped is sensible. The fact of it being the same ACTION as consensual sex is irrelevant–as is the fact of saying I like eating steak, why shouldn’t I close my eyes and let a potentially malevolent stranger feed me WHATEVER, because it’s all eating. Yes, but you don’t know if this person is going to be feeding you shards of glass, wet concrete, or acetone–and unlike with food, with sex you won’t necessarily know the difference until years down the road!

So - is Rape a daring and revolutionary act? Like a new art movement or scientific discovery? Is rape the pinnacle of MANliness? It would seem to be.