Women are the Spleen of Civilization

Here’s an interesting scientific thought experiment for you.

Everyone knows that women belong at home and not in the workplace. Just like everyone knows that men are responsible for being the providers in the family unit. That’s why lesbianism doesn’t work and doesn’t exist. It’s like having a car with no steering wheel and a 2 hp engine.

That’s called bumper cars. They sound fun, but really they’re just a waste of your fucking time.

Technology. When it comes to science, it doesn’t get more “science” than technology. That’s a man fact that you can take to your man grave.

Technology’s job is to improve life. That’s why men invented it in the first place. Everyone was having a hard time dragging their shit across the dirt and dying of syphilis at 23, so men invented technology to help with that. Women invented denial for similar purposes, but that hasn’t progressed in ten thousand years — just like women.

Here’s the thought experiment. Over the years, technology has improved life at home equally to how it has improved life in the workplace. You’d think that would lead to lazier employees, but it hasn’t. The truth is today’s modern man-employee has to be just as attentive, productive, and proactive when it comes to learning these new technologies as he ever has; even when not in a technology field, such a crab fishing or being a detective. Technology has not begotten laziness in the workplace, no sir.

But what about in the home?

Businesses are designed to maximize productivity and money. The home is not. The home is more like a crossword puzzle. You sit down, solve a few riddles never straying outside the box, and then you’re free to eat another “healthy breakfast” bar. Have you seen how much fucking sugar is in those things?

Of course not because you’re a man and that’s not a man’s breakfast.

What’s left for women to do at home after the automatic, no-scrub dishwashing machine has cleaned up from last night’s supper? You can’t extra wash dishes. That doesn’t make any sense, so that job’s done. And what’s to do while the rechargeable floor sweeping robot — which actually exists — is cleaning up after the children? Flirt with the UPS guy? Yea, that sounds about right. And speaking of children, is there any real mothering to be done anymore? What with televisions and Speak n’ Spells and Happy Meal Educational inserts.

No.

Technology has taken women — who used to be probably the colon of civilization, and transmogrified them into the spleen. That little mass of flesh (well on its way to being replaced by the liver) that hasn’t had a real purpose in thousands of years.

That’s why women hate and suck at technology.

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99 Responses to “Women are the Spleen of Civilization”

  1. Lukasz Says:

    As an immunologist I can say with certainty that the liver is slowly replacing the spleen completely. We even now look at livers for the NK and T cells that we need for experiments. Back to the topic

    In this day and age, females really are for the most part useless. Men can cook, clean do laundry and even amuse ourselves with other things we invented like video games and hobbies.

    Other than sex and a child, a woman really is not needed anymore. Women think that they have a huge bargaining chip and that men do things to please them.

    You know what we don’t. Why do men go hunting without women, or go to space to live on the ISS without women?

    Simple, we actually take pride in enjoying things in life and our everyday lives do not revolve around our vaginas.

    Women should try that one day, amazing just how content you will be.

    Brilliant post Dick

  2. wolfe Says:

    This is an extremely good point.

    In fairness, there could be more and better mothering. That would indeed be one area, Speak ‘n Spell not withstanding, that women could redeploy their work as they were freed from drudgery.

    If there were, we’d see it in ever-lower crime rates, an increasingly well-educated younger generation, and youth with impeccable manners.

    Judging by the Sam, Tiffy, Desi, etc. collective, I don’t think that’s what’s happening.

    Looking at the news of the day, it’s certainly not happening. Too bad.

    And spleen? Surely you are too generous. Might it not be more accurate, though less kind, to say women are becoming the appendix? The spleen actually does have something of a role in fighting infection.

    -wolfe

  3. Dick Masterson Says:

    Now now. Women do have some role in society. After all, without women, how would we men know that men are better than women?

    Think about it.

    -Dick

  4. Lukasz Says:

    LOL the Sam Tiffy Desi collective, like the Borg.

    Funny how man hating feminists are always a collective, seldom do you actually see one intelligent thing out of their yapping mouths and not have to come out of a collective.

    Another thing ladies, feminism has stripped all individuality from women and made you prisoners to suggestions by the gay media and anti-maile newspapers, at least men have learned to think for themselves

  5. James Says:

    What a mantastic article Dick. I think you have succinctly summed up my feelings for what women can provide me that I don’t already provide myself quite nicely. I’m definitely renting from here on out because long term purchases usually get me assets, not liabilities.

    However, there is a dark side to women finding their way back to their social contract…the economy will collapse. Men will have nothing to spend their money on after they purchase the toys they want, shoe stores will pretty much cease to exist and overpriced coffee shops will be ghost towns.

    Gone will be the days of being able to charge thousands for a utility item like a purse or piece of useless jewelry. These are serious issues that must be addressed before women get stuffed into burqaas.

  6. Lukasz Says:

    Ahh the terrible life of a stay at home wife. 2 hours of cleaning, 4 hours of tv watching, 2 hours of yakin it up at starbucks, must be difficult.

    All those luxuries came through inventions by men.

    This is the life of my ex’s mother, and the worse part about it all is that she was ALWAYS in a bad mood and super feminist.

    The patriarchy made her life so terrible, what a fucking joke, I hate people that are ungrateful

  7. ManMan Says:

    That little mass of flesh well on its way to being replaced by the liver, that hasn’t had a real purpose in thousands of years.

    The liver is very important. I think you meant the appendix.

  8. Dick Masterson Says:

    Good man-eye, ManMan, but I’m certain I didn’t.

    -Dick

  9. Enya Says:

    Luke Said:

    In this day and age, females really are for the most part useless.

    Is this what you tell your mother, sister or daughters (if you have any sisters of daughters that is.) … Wow! You must be wonderful for their self esteem.

    What a perverted way of looking at the world, thinking that half the population is ‘useless’. Just replace ‘women’ with ‘Jews’ or ‘blacks’ and wow - we just may have a racist on our hands. Yet no, this is about half the world’s population.

    Gentlemen, what you are saying is sexist.

    It is not right that the feminazis are saying that men are useless - but nor is it right for you to say the same for women.

  10. Dick Masterson Says:

    Enya, men don’t go around spouting and squawking about whatever we think like broken sprinklers. We have an internal filter called class. As a woman, that’s something you wouldn’t understand.

    -Dick

  11. Lukasz Says:

    Enya said:

    Luke Said:
    [blockquote removed]

    Is this what you tell your mother, sister or daughters (if you have any sisters of daughters that is.) … Wow! You must be wonderful for their self esteem.

    What a perverted way of looking at the world, thinking that half the population is ‘useless’. Just replace ‘women’ with ‘Jews’ or ‘blacks’ and wow - we just may have a racist on our hands. Yet no, this is about half the world’s population.

    Gentlemen, what you are saying is sexist.

    It is not right that the feminazis are saying that men are useless - but nor is it right for you to say the same for women.

    I stand by my statement.

    If and when I have daughters I will raise them to not be useless and teach them traditional values that are missing in today’s women.

    For you to compare me to Hitler and the Jews is comical. Nowhere did I say we should kill all women and cleanse the world of them.

    Feminists are alot closer to HItler than you can even imagine, with their socialist anti-male views. Kill all men is very common for feminists, not for us here.

    Please don’t compare myself or others here to that since we never stated anything even remotely close to the ideologies of Nazi Germany or pre-integration movements.

    My post simply stated that women these days have lost their place and no longer have anything to contribute to men aside from sex and children, read the post.

  12. Enya Says:

    So your site is not spouting and squawking (I never heard of a broken sprinkler that squawks before…) about whatever you think like a broken sprinkler, Dick?

    This website is not 100% fact, it is 100% Dick Masterson’s opinion. No more. No less.

  13. Enya Says:

    Lukasz said:

    [blockquote removed]

    I stand by my statement.

    If and when I have daughters I will raise them to not be useless and teach them traditional values that are missing in today’s women.

    For you to compare me to Hitler and the Jews is comical. Nowhere did I say we should kill all women and cleanse the world of them.

    Feminists are alot closer to HItler than you can even imagine, with their socialist anti-male views. Kill all men is very common for feminists, not for us here.

    Please don’t compare myself or others here to that since we never stated anything even remotely close to the ideologies of Nazi Germany or pre-integration movements.

    My post simply stated that women these days have lost their place and no longer have anything to contribute to men aside from sex and children, read the post.

    No. You stated that women are useless - which was a careless comment on your part. You also stated that ‘women are not needed anymore’ in that very same post.

    I never said that men are on here are out to kill women. I didn’t even compare you to Hitler and the Jews. I only compared your IDEA that women are useless to a similar racist attitude about blacks and Jews being useless.

    One can have such an idea but it doesn’t mean you want to kill anyone or rid the world of women, blacks or jews. I did not intend to imply that this was what you were saying with your comment- I am sorry that you read it that way or that it offended you - it was never the intention.

    You have reworded your message better on your second post, but this second post is a different animal to what you have previously stated.

  14. Geeza Says:

    Enya said:

    Is this what you tell your mother, sister or daughters (if you have any sisters of daughters that is.) … Wow! You must be wonderful for their self esteem. .

    Of course we dont. We just dont put them up on pedestals and give them a sense of over importance.

    Enya said:

    What a perverted way of looking at the world, thinking that half the population is ‘useless’. Just replace ‘women’ with ‘Jews’ or ‘blacks’ and wow - we just may have a racist on our hands. Yet no, this is about half the world’s population.

    Gentlemen, what you are saying is sexist.

    Dont blame us if the truth itself is sexist. If you dont like what you’re reading, that doesnt make it untrue.

    Enya said:

    It is not right that the feminazis are saying that men are useless - but nor is it right for you to say the same for women.

    Your argument is flawed for the simple reason that compared to men, women are useless. They are not even good at the one job that they should be naturally gifted at, being mothers.

  15. ManMan Says:

    My post simply stated that women these days have lost their place and no longer have anything to contribute to men aside from sex and children, read the post.

    If you are lucky enough to get to see your children. No, if you want children and can afford it then it is better to get some poor schmuck to carry your baby to term and pay her for it. Less expensive in the long run and less heart ache.

    As to sex, if you are married to a feminist then sex is not about pleasing each other but a matter of control over your husband.

    Feminism = Fascism except crueler.

  16. Enya Says:

    Dont blame us if the truth itself is sexist.

    The truth itself is sexist? Geeza. Dick’s premise is based on 100% his own opinion and it just so happens that some people share his opinion. Just because you prove others wrong, (feminists, the women who post on here etc) does not make your opinions 100% fact. It just means that the feminists are wrong.

    If you dont like what you’re reading, that doesnt make it untrue.

    Whether or not I like what I am reading is irrelevant. If can be true or untrue and I can dislike it either way. Just because you agree with what Luke is saying, doesn’t mean that what Luke says is 100% fact either. It just so happens you share his 100% of opinion.

    Your argument is flawed for the simple reason that compared to men, women are useless.

    How can my argument be flawed because someone holds the opinion that women are useless? There is no basis upon which to state that compared to men women are useless. The only basis is opinion - that of yours, Luke’s and Dick’s and others.

    Dick’s site does not count as proof or factual evidence - just his opinion and that of many others. This doesn’t mean that Dick’s comments are completely false or wrong either - there may be elements of truth there -but it would be a mistake to see his comments as flawless fact.

  17. Dakota Smith Says:

    Enya said:

    There is no basis upon which to state that compared to men women are useless.

    Sure there is. Just ask yourself this one question:

    In modern American society, what vital role does a woman play that cannot be performed equally well or better by a man?

    Answer: being pregnant and bearing children.

    That’s all. That’s it. There is literally nothing else that women do that cannot be done as well or better by men.

    Women are actually vital in society for only brief, nine-month periods of their lives. Otherwise, they’re entirely superfluous.

    This hasn’t always been the case in American (and other) societies. Prior to feminism, women really could cook, clean, keep house, and raise children far better than men. If you took the woman out of the home, it would have been actively damaging, and it was pretty easy to see the damage in broken homes and the deaths of mothers.

    Post-feminism, and men are expected to cook, clean, parent their children, and so on. Consequently men have stepped up to the plate and learned to do these jobs — often better than the women whose social roles they replaced.

    Now — two generations after women were “liberated” (translation: “intentionally made themselves irrelevant”) — the average woman knows no more about cooking, cleaning, and parenting than the average man; while the average man sometimes excels beyond the average woman.

    In the business world, while it’s certainly true that women have moved into the workforce, they’re significantly inferior to men. If they all died tomorrow, their positions would be filled in short order by competant men, and the business world would barely notice. They aren’t integral to the business world and never have been.

    Again, what vital role do women play in modern society that cannot be performed as well as or better by men? Being pregnant and delivering babies. That’s it.

    Women should be scared out of their minds that men will devise a fool-proof method of laboratory baby-making. When we do (at the average woman’s insistence, amazingly), women will be necessary for exactly nothing.

    Now, I should be clear that this is a general statement. There are individual women who still maintain skills that set them apart from men. For various reasons, my girlfriend prides herself on being an excellent cook and homemaker, and she is much better at it than I. When we eventually start cohabitating, I’ll be much happier and so will my children.

    But as I’ve said elsewhere, she’s the sole exception in 41 years on planet Earth. Most women are superfluous except for the nine-month periods when they’re having babies.

  18. Dick Masterson Says:

    Mantastic, Dakota!

    -Dick

  19. Geeza Says:

    Enya you do come across as a decent person and I’ll give you the same advice I’d give my mother, wife or sister if they would ever come across this site.

    I’d tell them to ignore everything on this site and never visit it again as it is full of opinionated articles with no factual basis whatsoever. Its called protecting someone from the truth.

    Being a man, Dicks articles hit home because I have enough life experience behind me and a mans perspective to know that OK, Dick does use a pretty broad generalisation but alot of what he says is undoubtebly true.

    Where you just see an opinion, I see an opinion backed by fact.

  20. James Says:

    Dakota, that was beautiful, just beautiful.

  21. Mr.T Says:

    Dakota, man-points for spelling it out so clearly and bluntly. Like a man. The whole part about women making themselves useless was genius. Dick, you should write an article to the effect of “Women made themselves useless”

    -Mr.T

  22. Dakota Smith Says:

    Thanks, Dick and James. Feel free to use the argument with your female friends — it should be good for a nervous breakdown or two. ;)

    Oh, and since I’ve got a few minutes, let me answer the inevitible female objections to my argument:

    The knee-jerk reaction is generally: “Well, men are superfluous, too, and for even shorter periods of time: they can just be sperm-donors. If all the men died tomorrow, society would go on.”

    But you see, that’s not true. Where the abrupt removal of women would cause a brief and noticable upheaval, except for the sudden lack of breeders, civilization would continue. And in fact, I’m quite certain that being faced with a lack of breeders would motivate men to invent artificial methods inside of a generation.

    If men disappeared, civilization would immediately grind to a halt. Because you see, where women perform not function that cannot be performed by a man, men do perform functions that cannot be performed by women.

    Soldiering comes to mind. Women are terrible soldiers.

    Law enforcement. Women are terrible cops.

    Women in general are terrible in the business world. Remove men, and businesses will collapse.

    Women know next to nothing about construction and in general have no skills for it. Ditto any field of intense manual labor. If men disappeared and a woman’s toilet stopped up, there are not enough women with the knowledge of how to fix it to keep the plumbing moving.

    For that matter, few if any women know how to so much as change a tire. One imagines the freeways littered with cars that broke down and were never moved again because women had no knowledge of how to fix them.

    Men are absolutely necessary to the continuation of civilization. Remove men, and civilization will collapse. Remove women, and all that will happen is that we’ll invent a technology to do their only remaining vital job.

  23. Dakota Smith Says:

    Mr.T said:

    Dakota, man-points for spelling it out so clearly and bluntly. Like a man. The whole part about women making themselves useless was genius.

    Thanks. I do find it extremely ironic that the feminist movement’s primary legacy is to transform women into nothing more than breeders.

    Dakota Smith

  24. Dick Masterson Says:

    Well then I will.

    -Dick

  25. christianj Says:

    Dick’s opinion consists of life’s experience and as such found women to not only create more problems and issues but are incapable of finding any solutions to them.

    Thereby the “women are useless” comment makes sense and is correct.

    Women just leech off society and create all the hassles that we as men have to constantly deal with. In doing so, women keep themselves busy creating insurmountable and incomprehensible problems out of nothing.

    The correct term is “wallowing in an ocean of emotion”, the most apt explanation I can think of, explaining the functioning ability of a women.

  26. christianj Says:

    Well stated Dakota S.

    Dakota Smith said:

    [blockquote removed]

    Thanks. I do find it extremely ironic that the feminist movement’s primary legacy is to transform women into nothing more than breeders.

    Dakota Smith

    Every one keeps reminding those dumb bitches that feminism will without fail make their lives a misery. We have had guys, here and elsewhere, telling us how miserable women are without male partners, how some just burst into tears as they are so lonely, feel unwanted and have no male friends.

    This is only the beginning of the nightmare that’s in store for women in the long term.
    We already witness the behaviour of women deteriorating into common “whores and skanks”, we already see the massive increase in criminal activity and massive increases in the incarceration of women. They are building new jails already.

    All thanks to feminism, it this actually keeps you on-side then in comes “cause and affect”.

    Women are responsible for the issues that negatively affect men, Man will affectively hold you accountable.
    Denying feminism makes no difference, guilt by association plus deriving benefit from their hate agenda is sufficient.

  27. Enya Says:

    Dakota Said:

    But as I’ve said elsewhere, she’s the sole exception in 41 years on planet Earth. Most women are superfluous except for the nine-month periods when they’re having babies.

    Well, I don’t agree. I think if men were wiped off this planet and say there was a way to reproduce without men - I wouldn’t be so sure that women would not continue to keep the world going. I mean, a lot of women during World War II had to take over men’s jobs -I don’t think they did a bad job in keeping the war effort going. If women don’t do as good a job as a man, it does not mean that the whole world is going to collapse, maybe it will just take on another way of doing things.

    They say necessity is the mother of invention, I am sure if either gender were caught out without the other, somehow or another (assuming that reproduction could still continue by some new technology) - the women or men would work out a means to live and they will live. There is little to say that either society will collapse.

    This leads me to another thought. Who says that this civilisation that men have built is so great anyway? Yes,a small percentage of the world population live in luxury . Everybody else lives in a shithole and as of yet nothing is done to really resolve that - although I do not doubt that there are the resources and the means to do so.

    A lot of the time the human race is raping our planet with excessive greed and stupid levels of consumption…don’t get me wrong, I am not blaming men for the evils of the world - but if you want to claim ownership to creating human civilisation then you must claim some responsibility for these ills as well. (Although I would prefer to state that humans create systems and at the moment these systems are flawed.)

    I guess my argument boils down to this. It all depends upon your viewpoint. From one point of view, the entire human race can be seen to be superfluous in the bigger world picture. What good have any of us done to the world? At the moment we are damaging it. If the human race were wiped off the planet, the planet would not collapse and die - life moves on. Life does not depend on human beings. Most of the time we have a more arrogant picture of ourselves than which is healthy.

    The same would go for the unlikely event that one gender will disappear altogether. Men or women in this situation would find a means to survive - in whatever way that would be. The system of business may collapse in a female society (I don’t think it would, but lets say for argument’s sake it does) but there are other systems that could be developed - maybe business in a post man world would be conducted in a different way? Who knows? Who cares? At the moment these scenarios are unlikely because survival for either sex without the other is improbable without the means to reproduce alone.

    The barebones of your point is right that the only thing that women can do that men CANNOT do is reproduce - that is a fact. Yet this does not mean that this is all she is good for - as if somehow human beings can be only be valued by their function and production. That is a very bloody-minded way to put a value to life.

    This argument reeks of eugenics - simply by association of this idea that human beings (women in this case) are only valued by function. I cannot agree with this.

  28. christianj Says:

    Really don’t care whether you agree or not…….

  29. Enya Says:

    Geeza said:

    Enya you do come across as a decent person and I’ll give you the same advice I’d give my mother, wife or sister if they would ever come across this site.

    I’d tell them to ignore everything on this site and never visit it again as it is full of opinionated articles with no factual basis whatsoever. Its called protecting someone from the truth.

    Being a man, Dicks articles hit home because I have enough life experience behind me and a mans perspective to know that OK, Dick does use a pretty broad generalisation but alot of what he says is undoubtebly true.

    Where you just see an opinion, I see an opinion backed by fact.

    Everyone’s opinions are based on fact (although to varying degrees). An opinion is often a point of view upon something that exists in the world. Dick does refer to fact, but that is not the same as fact.

    This is the difference between fact and opinion.

    Fact: Women can develop babies, which is one thing that men cannot do.

    Opinion: The only thing that women can do that a man cannot do is make babies. Women are therefore useless except when they are having babies.

    A feminist could take the same fact and give the opinion that maybe women are more useful than men. Men are just sperm banks.

    Other feminists often take the same fact and argue that women are better than men because they are the life-givers.

    None of these are using a different fact - they are taking the same thing and using a different spin upon it.

  30. Enya Says:

    christianj said:

    Well stated Dakota S.

    [blockquote removed]

    Every one keeps reminding those dumb bitches that feminism will without fail make their lives a misery. We have had guys, here and elsewhere, telling us how miserable women are without male partners, how some just burst into tears as they are so lonely, feel unwanted and have no male friends.

    This is only the beginning of the nightmare that’s in store for women in the long term.
    We already witness the behaviour of women deteriorating into common “whores and skanks”, we already see the massive increase in criminal activity and massive increases in the incarceration of women. They are building new jails already.

    All thanks to feminism, it this actually keeps you on-side then in comes “cause and affect”.

    Women are responsible for the issues that negatively affect men, Man will affectively hold you accountable.
    Denying feminism makes no difference, guilt by association plus deriving benefit from their hate agenda is sufficient.

    Christian… I have a question for you.

    How can a movement which you claim to make women’s lives such a misery be benefiting them at the same time?

    Also this ‘guilt by association’ you mention is a fallacy

    Some examples:

    * Some charities have been fraudulant. Therefore, charities must be frauds.
    * The Nazis supported eugenics. Therefore eugenics must be evil.
    * Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian. Vegetarianism must be evil.

    I have been observing your posts and with each one of them you seem to support the following premises and conclusions.

    All feminists are women.
    Therefore all women must be feminist.

    All feminists hate and want to destroy men.
    Therefore all women must hate and want to destroy men.

    You will also notice by following the link that this fallacy has connections to propaganda techniques - namely the negative use of ‘false connections’.

  31. Dakota Smith Says:

    Enya said:

    Well, I don’t agree. I think if men were wiped off this planet and say there was a way to reproduce without men - I wouldn’t be so sure that women would not continue to keep the world going.

    I addressed this in my second post, and let me do so again:

    Woman as a group do not posess the skills necessary to maintain civilization.

    Want proof of this?

    When you call a plumber, who shows up?

    When you want a building constructed (house, office, anything), who does it?

    When you want a road maintained, who does it?

    In any level of manufacturing, who does the overwhelming majority of the labor?

    If you have a medical problem beyond the GP level, who is likely to be your specialist or surgeon?

    When your car has a problem, who fixes it?

    Any area that’s required to maintain civilization is entirely dominated by men. That’s not a sexist comment, it’s a statement of easily-observable objective reality.

    For going on three generations, women have had the ability to go into any of these fields — if they wanted to. For perhaps the first of these two generations, one might claim that men quietly conspired to keep them out. For the last generation in particular, this simply hasn’t been the case. Women have shown no real interest. Again, not sexism, just easily-observable objective reality.

    The fact is that if all men died tomorrow, women do not posess the skills necessary to maintain civilization. Without men to maintain the skills or pass them on to women, women would not be capable of maintaining it on their own.

    One of the interesting things about reaching middle age is that you’ve started to have a decent level of life experience. One of my experiences was attending a trade school in my twenties.

    This school taught a wide range of trades, from welding to electronics. It was massively dominated by male students. There were a few women: my electronics program had one (out of fifty) and I’m aware by virtue of hearing a story about a women who had a piece of hot metal fall down her top that there was one in welding. I’m not aware of any women in any other program save computer programming. There might have been one or two, but this was a large regional trade school — and it had no female dorms.

    Again, who fixes and maintains every level of civilization?

    I mean, a lot of women during World War II had to take over men’s jobs

    Under the direction and tutelege of men who were either too old to go to war or who were classified as physically unfit. If they’d've been dropped into the factories on their own, they’d've had no clue what to do.

    Again, woman as a group do not posess the skills necessary to maintain civilization.

    If women don’t do as good a job as a man, it does not mean that the whole world is going to collapse, maybe it will just take on another way of doing things.

    But who would teach them how? Who would teach them how to maintain a car, fix holes in the road, rough in plumbing, build a house, run wiring (and get it tied into a circuit breaker, connect it to external power — all without causing a fire hazard). Who would teach them how to landscape?

    Who would see to their health beyond the GP level?

    They say necessity is the mother of invention, I am sure if either gender were caught out without the other, somehow or another (assuming that reproduction could still continue by some new technology) - the women or men would work out a means to live and they will live. There is little to say that either society will collapse.

    Again, you fail to grasp something very simple:

    Women as a group do not posess the skills necessary to invent things.

    Invention requires not only a great idea, but the skill necessary to produce it. Women as a group are entirely ignorant of those skills.

    See, I’d like to invent a Mr. Fusion: a small device that could be attached to your car that accepts garbage as fuel and produces endless amounts of raw energy (see Back To the Future for details). It’s a grand idea.

    Unfortunately, I have no skills to produce such a device.

    Wishing that one had a thing will not make it appear.

    Women faced with maintaining a civilization whose mechanisms they do not understand would be exactly the same. Sure, they might wish to fix a road full of holes, but they don’t have the skills to do it. They might wish to build an office building, but they don’t have the skills to do it. They might wish to maintain their car, but they don’t have the skills to do it.

    Nor do they have any real interest in doing so. If women as a group had such an interest, two generations after feminism we’d see women as an integral part of the system.

    This leads me to another thought. Who says that this civilisation that men have built is so great anyway?

    Another topic entirely, but for the record, I think it’s pretty grand. It has its problems, but as utopia is not an option, we muddle along.

    Anyone who disdains modern technological civilization is simply ignorant. Go read a few history books to see how the majority of human beings throughout history has lived and then tell me if you don’t think what has been accomplished isn’t pretty damned remarkable.

    Yes,a small percentage of the world population live in luxury . Everybody else lives in a shithole and as of yet nothing is done to really resolve that - although I do not doubt that there are the resources and the means to do so.

    Absolutely — and what can be done is being done. Utopia is not an option.

    Civilization exists as a side-effect of the free market. Find me a shithole, and I will show you a place where the free market has been restricted or outright forbidden from existing.

    Which, by the way, explains a great deal about where one finds shitholes even in the United States … but I digress. Again, a different topic entirely.

    I guess my argument boils down to this. It all depends upon your viewpoint.

    It is not. It is objective reality. Again, think of anything that you use on a daily basis that is part of a technological civilization. Who built it? Who maintains it? Who innovates more of it?

    Men. Not women: men.

    And not because women can’t or because men are stopping them. Women can and men as a group aren’t standing in their way. It’s because women as a group don’t want to learn and in fact are generally disdainful of the men who do.

    In fact, your various comments about whatever flaws and failings exist in modern civilization are indicative of the general level of female ignorance about how these flaws exist and what can be done to correct them.

    You think there are flaws? Fine — set out to fix them. But if you’re going to do so, you need a practical understanding of why they exist and what can be done to correct them. Simply bitching about them isn’t enough.

    The system of business may collapse in a female society (I don’t think it would, but lets say for argument’s sake it does) but there are other systems that could be developed - maybe business in a post man world would be conducted in a different way?

    A successful business operates because its principals understand the free market. They understand why it works, and they understand that it is an integral part of the human psyche. It’s how we, as highly-territorial sapients with a desire for self-determination function on a basic psychological level.

    Women as a group do not have an understanding of this concept. Without this understanding, they cannot run businesses.

    As long as women think business can be conducted in some way other than based on psychological principals, female-run businesses will fail.

    And again, what happens if your power companies fail? How will you continue to live without an electric potential at all of your outlets?

    Who knows? Who cares? At the moment these scenarios are unlikely because survival for either sex without the other is improbable without the means to reproduce alone.

    I agree, but it’s worth discussing because it points out just precisely how useless to the maintenance of civilization women have become.

    Again, it wasn’t always like this. Half a century ago, women held a vital role in the maintenance of civilization. Amazingly, feminism stripped them of this role and made them irrelevant.

    The barebones of your point is right that the only thing that women can do that men CANNOT do is reproduce - that is a fact. Yet this does not mean that this is all she is good for - as if somehow human beings can be only be valued by their function and production. That is a very bloody-minded way to put a value to life.

    Of course women have the potential to be good for something other than breeding. The truly sad thing is that women in modern society are reduced to the level of attention-whoring and leeching off a male-dominated civilization by their own choice.

    Dakota Smith

  32. mike Says:


    Enya said:

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    Fact: Women can develop babies, which is one thing that men cannot do.

    Opinion: The only thing that women can do that a man cannot do is make babies. Women are therefore useless except when they are having babies.

    A feminist could take the same fact and give the opinion that maybe women are more useful than men. Men are just sperm banks.

    .

    The ability to bear children does not make women more useful than men. Sitting on your ass, eating ice-cream for 9 months is not a skill or even desirable.

    I look out my office window and see towers of glass and steel. It pleases me to know that women played absolutely no part in their construction, the internal wiring, plumbing, air conditioning etc. I can walk for miles in any direction and see nothing but things made by men, even the paving stones and sewers under the street were built entirely by men. Cars built, and maintained by men fly past me, hundreds of them every minute.

    This is how we men define being “useful”, ergo - creation or production. We bust our balls every day to keep things simple and functioning.
    Men are the very pulse of civilisation. In brief, we are irreplaceable.

    The thought of a bunch of women trying to throw up a building or wade through effluent to maintain the sewers is too funny to mention. The thought of a women trying to use a pneumatic drill for road works, even more so. Hell, Don’t even mention chainsaws.

    I could literally go on and on, providing more examples of men’s worth and greatness.

    Unfortunately it will only fall on deaf ears, taking us straight back to square 1.

    “But women can give birth, that makes us better than men”

    Sigh

  33. Geeza Says:

    Well said Dakota.

    I’ve been a property developer for just over a decade. I’ve done all kinds of projects from simple redecorations to multi-storey apartment complexes. In all my years I have NEVER come across a single female electrician, plumber, carpenter, bricklayer, roofer, labourer, plasterer, tiler, scaffolder, heavy plant or machinery operator. I have known bricklayers who have taught bricklaying at institutes and have had female trainees, but they themselves have never actually seen one on site.

    Now I have seen females in the property development field. Where? Estate agents and interior designers.

    This simple observation speaks volumes. If you want any sort of job done……get a man to do it. If you want a woman to do the same job, there had better be a desk with a comfortable chair, a car to fart around in and a mobile phone to jabber on all day long. If there is a chance that a womans hairdo will be blown out of place or her carefully manicured fingernails will get scuffed up or she will not be able to wear a trendy outfit……..count a woman out.

    P.S: Sorry about blowing my own trumpet as it is something women here typically do to impress others. I think this is the first time I’ve ever mentioned here what I do for a living.

  34. Enya Says: