Women Caused the Subprime Meltdown
This letter was sent to me from America’s Heartland.
Dear Dick,
I live in Nebraska where anyone with a decent job can afford to buy a house. Recently, I’m seeing a trend in the amount of women who feel that they can AND SHOULD buy their own house. “How the fuck do these women expect to mow the lawn?” I asked a friend of mine who is buying a house. She replied, “You.” After I finished laughing, she asked if she could borrow my lawnmower to do it. “How are you going to get the mower from my house to yours?” I said. She replied, “Your truck.”
Property ownership for women should be discouraged, starting at the real estate agent.
CE in Nebraska.
Well said, CE in Nebraska. Women should not own property.
A woman owning property is like giving a monkey a dog on a leash. It doesn’t mean the monkey has a pet. It means some idiot tied a dog to a monkey.
Women owning property doesn’t mean that they themselves aren’t property.
But what’s the worst that could happen? So a few women buy a few houses and fuck them up, it’s not like that will fuck up the entire global economy, right?
Wrong. Women caused the subprime mortgage meltdown.
You Are What You Eat
Women don’t know how to treat property. Just look at how they treat themselves! Getting fat as hell, speaking when they could just sit there and look pretty, giving it up on the first date. Women are the world’s oldest property and they treat themselves like shit.
They also treat their cars and houses like shit. The last time I let a woman drive me anywhere, I didn’t. I insisted on driving her car myself and she had to kick through a foot of trash and debris in her passenger seat to even sit down. That’s how a woman treats something she owns. She lets it go to hell.
If women can’t fuck to make a problem go away, or at least pretend they’re going to fuck after the problem goes away, then the problem goes unsolved. Take my new best friend CE from Nebraska. Sure, he could get his freak on for mowing some dozy bitch’s lawn, but that’s a waste of time and worse yet, it’s a loss of Man Points.
The maximum amount of work any man can do to get laid without losing Man Points is 30 minutes. Any more means you give a shit.
Women Are Consumers
Women don’t understand ownership. They only understand consumership. That’s why they should only purchase things that can be used. Things like make-up, clothing, pots and pans, and especially birth control; all things meant to be used up or thrown away when something better comes along — just like women.
Men are owners. We invented ownership and we fought the wars that resulted from this awesome invention. Ownership is about putting work into something, including ourselves, in order to increase its value. Women just complain until someone either pays more for access to their sex organs, or lies better while doing it.
A boob job doesn’t make a girl smarter, it just makes her look smarter.
Subprime Fuck Up
Subprime is the first word I think of when I think of women and their shit brains. However, it also perfectly describes their real estate investments.
If you don’t understand what the subprime mortgage crisis is, I’ll explain it in man terms.
Let’s say you’re throwing a party and stocking it with booze. You get a bottle of Patron, a 12 pack of Pacifico, and a case of Ralph’s brand charcoal filtered potato Vodka.
Guess what, no one will fucking drink Ralph’s brand charcoal filtered potato Vodka and the people who will drink it, you don’t want at your party! That’s the subprime alcohol at my party crisis. The Pacifico will be gone in ten minutes and the Patron will get smashed on your car by pissed off, sober party guests during an angry mass exodus.
In 2003, one in five home purchases were made by single women.
In 2006 women were 32% more likely to receive a subprime mortgage than men.
In 2006 women were 41% more likely to receive a high-cost subprime mortgage than men.
In 2006, 30% of mortgage borrowers were women
In 2006, 38.8% of subprime mortgage borrowers were women.
In 2006, women were 29.1% more likely to be stupid and irresponsible.
Men are better than women.
The economy is like a symphony. It doesn’t take an orchestra to fuck it up, it just takes like 29.1% of the instruments.
Accountability? Who Me?
Women are experts at shooting themselves in the foot. I think men have too much practice not shooting ourselves in the foot from pissing outside our entire lives. We learn to account for wind, splash factor, all kinds of shit. We learn not to piss all over our shoes. But women don’t. According to women, the reason they accepted shitty mortgages from banks and didn’t use LendingTree.com to shop around like TV told them to, is because banks are sexist.
Fuck you. Banks hate everyone. To banks you are a number not a name and a collection of statistics to milk for cash — not a person. For more information on banks, consult your local library — or ask Mel Gibson. I’m sure he has some interesting theories.
Financial Advice From the Retarded
Aside from trash books telling women not to base their self-worth on men — which they will anyway — financial advice books written by women for women are some of the biggest selling titles out there.
Among money saving pearls like, “Bring your own snacks to the movies”, and “Don’t bother getting a car, just get some man to drive you everywhere!” you’ll will also encounter the following gem amongst the kitschy self-empowerment slogans:
Home ownership is the key to building wealth.
What women fail to realize is that affording a home is the key to home ownership. Women are economically retarded. They’ll write checks until their checkbook is empty. They’ll pay the minimum required amount on their credit cards just for fun. They’ll buy the Extended Warranty because it makes them feel better. Then they’ll throw all the fucking receipts away and cry when their shitty little television breaks two years in.
The point is, women are fiscally retarded.
Financial Advice For the Retarded
“Women are Disproportionately Represented in High-Cost Mortgage Market.” -CFA 2006
So what if women got offered shitty deals? They still took them. That makes it their fault. Who knows how much shit women forgot to put on their applications or how much effort they put into researching the loan process or even looking up the word “loan” before taking one out and leaving the global economy alone on the swing set while trying to convince her friends that she’s had a busy day. Running errands is not having a busy day.
Women wouldn’t know a good deal if it offered them a ride home in exchange for a blowjob. That’s a good deal! It’s five minutes of work vs. an hour of walking. Do the math.
But women can’t do math. Women look at APR and amortization rates and closing costs and fiduciary terms and their little heads start replaying the training montage in Dirty Dancing. “Maybe this time she’ll get in the air without laughing like a whore!” thinks a woman as she’s signing away daddy’s retirement plan.
Daddy
All problems by women are actually caused by men. Men who think their daughter, wife, sister, girlfriend, mother, fuck buddy, or co-worker, has anything more than shit between her ears.
In the case of the subprime meltdown, some man thought it was a good idea to give his daughter a down payment. It wasn’t.
Welcome to the big leagues, ladies. Having the world on your shoulders isn’t as fun as it looked, is it? Make sure your degrees in Political Science are framed to match your bedroom set when the repo man comes to collect both.
“Though no statistics exist to compare foreclosure rates among men and women, it is logical to conclude that higher rates of subprime mortgages among women translates to higher rates of foreclosure.” -Allen J. Fishbein
Here’s a statistic for you. Women have only been allowed to own property for 1% of the time we’ve been around as a species. There’s a reason for that.
Manclusion
“35 percent of women home equity borrowers used the loans to pay off credit card debt, and a third of those borrowers had rebuilt the same credit card debt within four years.” – Money Magazine, July 2004
I should have just lead with that quote, but since it also ends the discussion, I saved it for the end.
End of discussion. Women are fucked.
If I was a bank, I would never lend money to a single woman wanting to buy a house because I know she’s going to blow half of it on overpriced furnishings and a new puppy she won’t discipline for shit. Besides, she’s just going to get married in a few years anyway, and the day a woman gets married all her money suddenly becomes discretionary. Yours is hers and hers is hers. Welcome to marriage. That means whenever a bank signs a mortgage over to a single woman, they’re actually signing it over to her future husband.
Since when is it good banking to give loans to imaginary people!
2006 Study by the Consumer Federation of America
NY Times interviews Allen J. Fishbein
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[...] The link If you are really anti-recession, then you have to be anti-women. If you enjoy the recession, then enjoy women. The current economy and unwillingness to loan forces men and women to live together. Men have to either live with their Mothers or a girl-enemy, because the economy sucks too much to actually find a steady job and thus isolate oneself from the need of assistance towards housing. The current economy is a result of a deliberate conspiracy of women to buy expensive houses in order to keep their husbands in debt, and to crash the whole economy so that men can’t live without a roomate. I pointed out in an earlier post that women have not been harmed by the recession nearly as much as men. But dick masterson argues that they engineered it. [...]
Well said! My ex-wife didn’t even know how to fill out a fucking check when I married her! She didn’t even have a bank account! Then, when I gave her access to my account, all the money I had fucking vanished! She told me to go out and get a second job! Too funny!
Then I closed the account and created a new one in just my name, set up savings, etc. Now there were THOUSANDS in the bank and yet I was still making the same amount of money (no second job). Hmmmm! Identified problem: Ex-wife was completely oblivious with money and pissed everything I earned way!
Now the whore expects alimony yet she’s quite capable of working a normal job to provide for herself. She’d just rather milk the system and sit on her ass and browse the internet for shopping websites all day instead.
Watcher said: ”We don’t want a ‘woman’s point of view’ or a ‘woman’s angle on things’, we have that forced down our necks every single fucking day!! Every news paper, every TV program, every movie, every advert! WE ARE SICK OF IT!”
HEAR! HEAR!
Sick to the back teeth.
“I feel sorry for your mothers”.Acting stupid is a feminist’s job,I am just educating trash like you with the hope that one day you’ll change your fucked up feminist ways.Men don’t argue,we just state the facts.The only things people should feel sorry for are lowly sluts like you who hate men.
You have the right to speak your mind,but how can you when its full of shit?There are women(very rare) who respect men,are smart,understanding,loyal and submit to their man’s protection and I am proud to say one of them’s my girlfriend.Why are you such a common peasant along with the rest of the pathetic scum(feminists)?Have you noticed that they are some real women(cameron,penny,katie ) who agree with this site and everything we men say.
Just cos you haven’t got laid in 40yrs don’t be bitter at men and call everyone gay.If you weren’t such a fat,stupid,ugly feminist cunt I would fuck you right now.Look at all the pathetic feminist sites which promote hatred of men.They are a lot more stupid feminist sites which only fuck everything up.What do you have against this intelligent male site?
No one asked for your pity,you dumb vag,so shut it!We men are speaking the truth here and If you females thought you were so smart.Fuck off this site,you are not wanted and your opinions don’t mean shit.
Did I even say that the femenist sites were true? NO I DIDN’T. Besides, you can’t say that men don’t do stupid things, because they do and so do women, no one is worse than the other, your just close-minded. And you aren’t speaking the truth because you have terrible things to back up your statments with so stop trying to act so smart. Also, my opinions dont mean anything? Are you trying to act stupid? This site is ABOUT women, why don’t I have the right to speak my mind? If its because I’m a woman, then your just as shallow and stupid as the feminists that say the same thing about men.
So why don’t you FUCK OFF to one of the tens of thousands of feminist sites and complain to them about how shallow and stupid they are? No? Why not?
Your opinion doesn’t count for two reasons. One, your stupid and two your opinion has no place here. We don’t want a ‘woman’s point of view’ or a ‘woman’s angle on things’, we have that forced down our necks every single fucking day!! Every news paper, every TV program, every movie, every advert! WE ARE SICK OF IT!
So take your shrill, childish, self-centered, vain ‘opinion’ and FUCK OFF!
”So why don’t you FUCK OFF to one of the tens of thousands of feminist sites and complain to them about how shallow and stupid they are? No? Why not?”
Exactly. Because she can’t stand the thought of losing the privilege they’ve nagged for her over the years AND HAVEN’T STOPPED YET. That’s why the nagging fucker’s here.
“In 2006, 30% of mortgage borrowers were women”
Haha, so what that means that the other 70% were men… what does THAT say about you guys?
Stop sterotyping women because not all of them are the same, thats why you don’t really see sites like womenarebetterthanmen.com.
I feel sorry for your mothers, they raised you and gave birth to you, and all you can say is how shitty they are… wow. Just stop feeling sorry for yourselves and move on with your lives, everyone is equal and everyone should just accept that fact. I know this may sound incredibaly hard for you all to understand but even women have feelings too. You’d feel pretty pissed if women made a site like this and you read all the untrue things they would say out of spite… yet you all do the exact same thing how hypocritical can you get?
And if you hate women so much, just turn gay and leave them alone.
Feminazi’s have to be destroyed at all costs!
Guys lets make them pay for what they have done to our brothers! Everybody start making movies,videos,art, books,vblogs,blogs,websites on Complete MaleSupremacy and take over of all money, power, business,education, industry, electronics! All hail Patriarchy!!! All my brothers rise up! All the men rise up! Let’s all work together to usher in the New Masculine Era!
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http://www.christianparty.net
DESTORY EVERYTHING THAT IS A AGAINST MALE SUPREMACY!
ALL FEMICUNTS ARE PATHETIC CUMBUCKETS THAT ALL MEN SHOULD FUCK AND LEAVE THEM! BITCHES! WHORES! CUNTS! TAMPON HOLDERS! SCREW THEM, FUCK THEM, SMACK THEM, PUNCH THEM, STRIKE THEM, FUCK THEM IN THE ASS WITH A CHAINSAW!
GET ALL THE HACKERS YOU CAN FIND AND DESTROY ALL FEMICUNT BUSINESSES COMPANIES AND WEBSITES AFTER YOU HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THEIR INFO!
ALL THE MEN RISE UP ALL THE BROTHERS RISE UP ANSWER THE BATTLE CALL TRACK THE CUNTS WHO COME ON THIS SITES TO THEIR HOMES LET THEM THINK TWICE ABOUT HW MUCH THEIR CUNTS CAN BLEED I HAVE FORMED A HUGE ARMY OF FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THESE CUNTS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME! ALL THE MEN START RECRUITING OTHER BROTHERS AROUND THE WORLD YOUR FRIENDS FAMILY WORKMATES THE TIME IS NOW! THE EARTH WILL BLOOD WHEN WE MAKE THESE FUCKING CUNT WHORES BLEED STABBING VICIOUSLY THERE’S NO STOPPING US CUNTS! EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR EYES BELONG TO MEN SO TAKE IT BACK! FIGHT NOW! STAND UP NOW! STRIKE NOW! 3 BILLION MEN HUNTING YOU CUNTS DOWN WHERE CAN YOU RUN WHERE CAN YOU HIDE! CHAINSAW RIPPING YOUR CUNTS OPEN FOR ALL THE BILLIONS OF BABIES ABORTED! ALL CUNTS WILL PAY
Dick said: ”, and the day a woman gets married all her money suddenly becomes discretionary. Yours is hers and hers is hers. Welcome to marriage.”
And there you have one of the main reasons most men stop kissing women’s arses. End result she wins even more through divorce. Anyone for marriage?
*The entire female population of all our nations raises their hands, even the dykes if they could get away with it*.
You all describe women as money grabbing whores, yet you never take into consideration the women in the world that support themselves and dont want to depend on men for their monetary needs and when you do you call us feminists. if you want women to not depend on you and take all of your money then let us take care of ourselves and dont complain. you obviously think you HAVE to finically support your women, if you dont then tell her to support herself or start dating women that are willing to support themselves.
stop generalizing women into the same fucked up stereotype, not all of us are like that. i take pride in supporting myself and not having to depend on men, and i wont get married so that i can live off of someone’s else’s money and then get divorced so that i can have more of that money.
all of the men that read this and idolize Dick obviously have mommy issues, dick included, or you grew up in a home where women-bashing was acceptable. in the real world with the grown-ups that aren’t chauvinistic assholes live, women are treated as equals and with respect, men didn’t create respect so dont tell me that they did. respect is earned, not given freely and no one in their right minds would respect any of the men on this website.
you want to generalize women and call all women money hungry whores then i will generalize men and call you all chauvinistic pigs, pompous asses that think they know everything, pretentious, sons-of-bitches with a god complex.
A “GOD” complex???
Give it a rest. EVERY man is god of his own reality.
Nothing “complex” about it.
And there is NOTHING WRONG with being a whore, sweety. As long as you girls know that’s exactly what you are.
Where you bitches always run into problems….
is when you try to pretend you are NOT a whore.
And PS…. woman-bashing IS acceptable.
Who brainwashed you into thinking men are supposed to say nice shit about you??
Snap out of it.
When you attempt to ’support yourselves’ you necessarily enter the workplace. This brings you into direct competition with men. Finding that you cannot compete on a fair basis, women then demand legal handicaps to ‘even the playing field’. Think women only short-lists or diversity quotas. This penalises men in favour of women so in effect men STILL pay for women!
You are right in that men didn’t create respect for ‘modern women’, oh no. Women DEMANDED it and, when they didn’t get it, they had legislators force men to at least pretend to respect women. To criticise women is almost classed as a ‘hate crime’, look at them funny and they would slap a lawsuit on you so fast your wallet would spin!
Women have certainly ‘earned’ the respect of men!!!
Leah, show some integrity and earn some genuine respect by leaving this site? Could you do that?
Oh and squeak. How does a woman have the nerve to point to narcissism when most of you display it every day of your lives? Even Esthar Vilar had the cheek to call the effort you make putting on make up and clothes art.
Dick is making money out of other mens misfortunes, he sides with mens sorrows over how they really loathe women and makes his income out of men who hate women through all the books he sells them/products and publicity from a highly public dr phil segment and now through his own website. Spread the hate of women today on Dicks women hating website and always remember him as being a famous spreader of hate for others that has led to his own power fame and fortune from others hate like Adolf gained fans to feed his power. When Dick showed up on Dr Phil as a troll who had the perfect way to make money out of all those women haters by leading them on as his now loyal fans. Make Dick rich and famous through Dicks loyal fans of women haters everywhere who buy into his hype!
Aw, come on.
Dick – and we – don’t “hate” women.
No man would be willing to throw his junk into something he “hates”. That’s a a GUARANTEE.
There is no better place – than a woman – to deposit sperm.
I love that.
2/3 Amerskanks suffer from extreme histrionic/narcissistic disorder and are completely unaware of it.
Example: A woman will have NO QUESTION in her mind that a man must be a total asshole if doesn’t want a “relationship” with her… and she will blame HIM for it, instead of herself.
SCARY.
Sex is reserved to “whores” (all other women in the world). This division resolves the narcissist’s constant cognitive dissonance (“I want her but …”, “I don’t need anyone but …”). It also legitimises his sadistic urges (abstaining from sex is a major and recurrent narcissistic “penalty” inflicted on female “transgressors”). It tallies well with the frequent idealisation-devaluation cycles the narcissist goes through. The idealised females are sexless, the devalued ones – “deserving” of their degradation (sex) and the contempt that, inevitably, follows thereafter.
The narcissist believes firmly that women are out to “hunt” men by genetic predisposition. As a result, he feels threatened (as any prey would). This, of course, is an intellectualisation of the real state of affairs: the narcissist feels threatened by women and tries to justify this irrational fear by imbuing them with “objective”, menacing qualities. This is a small detail in a larger canvass. The narcissist “pathologises” others in order to control them.
The narcissist believes that, once their prey is secured, women assume the role of “body snatchers”. They abscond with the male’s sperm, generate an endless stream of demanding and nose dripping children, financially bleed the men in their lives to cater to their needs and to the needs of their dependants.
Put differently, women are parasites, leeches, whose sole function is to suck dry every man they find and tarantula-like decapitate him once no longer useful. This, of course, is exactly what the narcissist does to people. Thus, his view of women is a projection.
Heterosexual narcissists desire women as any other red-blooded male does or even more so due to their special symbolic nature in the narcissist’s life. Humbling a woman in acts of faintly sado-masochistic sex is a way of getting back at mother. But the narcissist is frustrated by his inability to meaningfully interact with women, by their apparent emotional depth and powers of psychological penetration (real or attributed) and by their sexuality.
Women’s incessant demands for intimacy are perceived by the narcissist as a threat. He recoils instead of getting closer. The cerebral narcissist also despises and derides sex, as we said before. Thus, caught in a seemingly intractable repetition complex, in approach-avoidance cycles, the narcissist becomes furious at the source of his frustration. Some narcissists set out to do some frustrating of their own. They tease (passively or actively), or they pretend to be asexual and, in any case, they turn down, rather cruelly, any feminine attempt to court them and to get closer.
Sadistically, they tremendously enjoy their ability to frustrate the desires, passions and sexual wishes of women. It makes them feel omnipotent and self-righteous. Narcissists regularly frustrate all women sexually – and significant women in their lives both sexually and emotionally.
Somatic narcissists simply use women as objects and then discard them. They masturbate, using women as “flesh and blood aides”. The emotional background is identical. While the cerebral narcissist punishes through abstention – the somatic narcissist penalises through excess.
The narcissist’s mother kept behaving as though the narcissist was and is not special (to her). The narcissist’s whole life is a pathetic and pitiful effort to prove her wrong. The narcissist constantly seeks confirmation from others that he is special – in other words that he is, that he actually exists.
Women threaten this quest. Sex is “bestial” and “common”. There is nothing “special or unique” about sex. Women’s sexual needs threaten to reduce the narcissist to the lowest common denominator: intimacy, sex and human emotions. Everybody and anybody can feel, copulate and breed. There is nothing in these activities to set the narcissist apart and above others. And yet women seem to be interested only in these pursuits. Thus, the narcissist emotionally believes that women are the continuation of his mother by other means and in different guises.
The narcissist hates women virulently, passionately and uncompromisingly. His hate is primal, irrational, the progeny of mortal fear and sustained abuse. Granted, most narcissists learn how to disguise, even repress these untoward feelings. But their hatred does swing out of control and erupt from time to time.
To live with a narcissist is an arduous and eroding task. Narcissists are infinitely pessimistic, bad-tempered, paranoid and sadistic in an absent-minded and indifferent manner. Their daily routine is a rigmarole of threats, complaints, hurts, eruptions, moodiness and rage.
The narcissist rails against slights true and imagined. He alienates people. He humiliates them because this is his only weapon against his own humiliation wrought by their indifference. Gradually, wherever he is, the narcissist’s social circle dwindles and then vanishes. Every narcissist is also a schizoid, to some extent. A schizoid is not a misanthrope. The narcissist does not necessarily hate people – he simply does not need them. He regards social interactions as a nuisance to be minimised.
The narcissist is torn between his need to obtain Narcissistic Supply (from human beings) – and his fervent wish to be left alone. This wish springs from contempt and overwhelming feelings of superiority.
There are fundamental conflicts between dependence, counter-dependence and contempt, neediness and devaluation, seeking and avoiding, turning on the charm to attract adulation and reacting wrathfully to the minutest “provocations”. These conflicts lead to rapid cycling between gregariousness and self-imposed ascetic seclusion.
Such an unpredictable but always bilious and festering ambience, typical of the narcissist’s “romantic” liaisons is hardly conducive to love or sex. Gradually, both become extinct. Relationships are hollowed out. Imperceptibly, the narcissist switches to asexual co-habitation.
But the vitriolic environment that the narcissist creates is only one hand of the equation. The other hand involves the woman herself.
As we said, heterosexual narcissists are attracted to women, but simultaneously repelled, horrified, bewitched and provoked by them. They seek to frustrate and humiliate them. Psychodynamically, the narcissist probably visits upon them his mother’s sins – but such simplistic explanation does the subject great injustice.
Most narcissists are misogynists. Their sexual and emotional lives are perturbed and chaotic. They are unable to love in any true sense of the word – nor are they capable of developing any measure of intimacy. Lacking empathy, they are unable to offer to their partners emotional sustenance.
Do narcissists miss loving, would they have liked to love and are they angry with their parents for crippling them in this respect?
To the narcissist, these questions are incomprehensible. There is no way they can answer them. Narcissists have never loved. They do not know what is it that they are supposedly missing. Observing it from the outside, love seems to them to be a risible pathology.
Narcissists equate love with weakness. They hate being weak and they hate and despise weak people (and, therefore, the sick, the old and the young). They do not tolerate what they consider to be stupidity, disease and dependence – and love seems to consist of all three. These are not sour grapes. They really feel this way.
Narcissists are angry men – but not because they never experienced love and probably never will. They are angry because they are not as powerful, awe inspiring and successful as they wish they were and, to their mind, deserve to be. Because their daydreams refuse so stubbornly to come true. Because they are their worst enemy. And because, in their unmitigated paranoia, they see adversaries plotting everywhere and feel discriminated against and contemptuously ignored.
Many of them (the borderline narcissists) cannot conceive of life in one place with one set of people, doing the same thing, in the same field with one goal within a decades-old game plan. To them, this is the equivalent of death. They are most terrified of boredom and whenever faced with its daunting prospect, they inject drama or even danger into their lives. This way they feel alive.
The narcissist is a lonely wolf. He is a shaky platform, indeed, on which to base a family, or plans for the future.
The Narcissist and the Opposite Sex
This chapter deals with the male narcissist and with his “relationships” with women.
It would be correct to substitute one gender for another. Female narcissists treat the men in their lives in a manner indistinguishable from the way male narcissists treat “their” women. I believe that this is the case with same sex narcissist partners.
A good point of departure would be jealousy, or rather, its pathological form, envy.
The narcissist becomes anxious when he grows aware of how romantically jealous (possessive) he is. This is a peculiar response. Normally, anxiety is characteristic of other kinds of interactions with the opposite sex where the possibility of rejection exists. Most men, for instance, feel anxious before they ask a woman to have sex with them.
The narcissist, in contrast, has a limited and underdeveloped spectrum of emotional reactions. Anxiety characterizes all his interactions with the opposite sex and any situation in which there is a remote possibility that he be rejected or abandoned.
Anxiety is an adaptive mechanism. It is the internal reaction to conflict. When the narcissist envies his female mate he is experiencing precisely such an unconscious conflict.
Jealousy is (justly) perceived as a form of transformed aggression. To direct it at the narcissist’s female partner (who stands in for the primary object, his Mother) is to direct it at a forbidden object. It triggers a strong feeling of imminent punishment – a likely abandonment (physical or emotional).
But this is merely the “surface” conflict. There is yet another layer, much harder to reach and to decipher.
To feed his envy, the narcissist exercises his imagination. He imagines situations, which justify his negative emotions. If his mate is sexually promiscuous this justifies romantic jealousy – he unconsciously “thinks”.
The narcissist is a con artist. He easily substitutes fiction for truth. What commences as an elaborate daydream ends up in the narcissist’s mind as a plausible scenario. But, then, if his suspicions are true (they are bound to be – otherwise, why is he jealous?), there is no way he can accept his partner back, says the narcissist to himself. If she is unfaithful – how could the relationship continue?
Infidelity and lack of exclusivity violate the first and last commandment of narcissism: uniqueness.
The narcissist tends to regard his partner’s cheating in absolute terms. The “other” guy must be better and more special than he is. Since the narcissist is nothing but a reflection, a glint in the eyes of others, when cast aside by his spouse or mate, he feels annulled and wrecked.
His partner, in this single (real or imagined) act of adultery, is perceived by the narcissist to have passed judgment upon him as a whole – not merely upon this or that aspect of his personality and not merely in connection with the issue of sexual or emotional compatibility.
This perceived negation of his uniqueness makes it impossible for the narcissist to survive in a relationship tainted by jealousy. Yet, there is nothing more dreadful to a narcissist than the ending of a relationship, or abandonment.
Many narcissists strike an unhealthy balance. Being emotionally (and physically or sexually) absent, they drive the partner to find emotional and physical gratification outside the bond. This achieved, they feel vindicated – they are proven right in being jealous.
The narcissist is then able to accept the partner back and to forgive her. After all – he argues – her two-timing was precipitated by the narcissist’s own absence and was always under his control. The narcissist experiences a kind of sadistic satisfaction that he possesses such power over his partner.
In provoking the partner to adopt a socially aberrant behavior he sees proof of his mastery. He reads into the subsequent scene of forgiveness and reconciliation the same meaning. It proves both his magnanimity and how addicted to him his partner has become.
The more severe the extramarital affair, the more it provides the narcissist with the means to control his partner through her guilt. His ability to manipulate his partner increases the more forgiving and magnanimous he is. He never forgets to mention to her (or, at least, to himself) how wonderful he is for having thus sacrificed himself.
Here he is – with his unique, superior traits – willing to accept back a disloyal, inconsiderate, disinterested, self centred, sadistic (and, entre nous, most ordinary) partner back. True, henceforth he is likely to invest less in the relationship, to become non-committal, and, probably, to be full of rage and hatred. Still, she is the narcissist’s one and only. The more voluptuous, tumultuous, inane the relationship, the better it suits the narcissist’s self image.
After all, aren’t such tortuous relationships the stuff Oscar winning movies are made of? Shouldn’t the narcissist’s life be special in this sense, too? Aren’t the biographies of great men adorned with such abysses of emotions?
If an emotional or sexual infidelity does occur (and very often it does), it is usually a cry for help by the narcissist’s mate. A forlorn cause: this rigidly deformed personality structure is incapable of change.
Usually, the partner is the dependent or avoidant type and is equally inherently incapable of changing anything in her life. Such couples have no common narrative or agenda and only their psychopathologies are compatible. They hold each other hostage and vie for the ransom.
The dependent partner can determine for the narcissist what is right and virtuous and what is wrong and evil as well as enhance and maintain his feeling of uniqueness (by wanting him). She, therefore, possesses the power to manipulate him. Sometimes she does so because years of emotional deprivation and humiliation by the narcissist have made her hate him.
The narcissist – forever “rational”, forever afraid to get in touch with his emotions – often divides his relationships with humans to “contractual” and “non contractual”, multiplying the former at the expense of the latter. By doing so he drowns the immediate, identifiable, emotional problems (with his partner) in a torrent of irrelevant frivolities (his obligation within numerous other “contractual” “relationships”).
The narcissist likes to believe that he is the maker of the decision which type of relationship he establishes with whom. He doesn’t even bother to be explicit about it. Sometimes people believe that they have a “contractual” (binding and long-term) relationship with the narcissist, while he entertains an entirely different notion without informing them. These, naturally, are grounds for innumerable disappointments and misunderstandings.
The narcissist often says that he has a contract with his girlfriend/spouse. This contract has emotional articles and administrative-economic articles.
One of the substantive clauses of this contract is emotional and sexual exclusivity.
But the narcissist feels that the fulfillment of his contracts – especially with his female partner – is asymmetrical. He is firmly convinced that he gives and contributes to his relationships more than he receives from them. The narcissist needs to feel deprived and punished, thus upholding the guilty verdict rendered by the primary and all important object in his life (usually, his mother).
The narcissist, though highly amoral (and at times, immoral), holds himself, morally, in high regard. He describes contracts as “sacred” and feels averse to canceling or violating them even if they had expired or are invalidated by the behavior of the other parties.
But the narcissist is not constant and predictable in his judgments. Thus, a violation of the contract by his romantic partner is deemed to be either trivial or nothing less than earth-shattering. If a contract is violated by the narcissist he is invariably tormented by his conscience to the extent of calling the contract (the relationship) off even if the partner judges the violation to be trivial or explicitly forgives the narcissist.
In other words, sometimes the narcissist feels compelled to cancel a contract just because he violated it and in order not to be tormented by his conscience (by his Superego, the internalized voices of his parents and other meaningful adults in his childhood).
But things get even more complex.
The narcissist acts asymmetrically as long as he feels bound by the contract. He tends to judge himself more severely than he judges the other parties to the contract. He forces himself to comply more strenuously than his partners do with the terms of the contract.
But this is because he needs the contract – the relationship – more than the others do.
The annulment or the termination of a contract represent rejection and abandonment, which the narcissist fears most. The narcissist would rather pretend that a contract is still valid than admit to the demise of a relationship. He never violates contracts because he is afraid of the reprisals and of the emotional consequences. But this is not to be confused with developed morals. When confronted with better alternatives – which more efficiently cater to his needs – the narcissist annuls or violates his contracts without thinking twice.
Moreover, not all contracts were created equal in the narcissistic twilight zone. It is the narcissist who retains the power to decide which contracts are to be scrupulously observed and which offhandedly ignored. The narcissist determines which laws (social contracts) to obey and which to break.
He expects society, his partners, his colleagues, his spouse, his children, his parents, his students, his teachers – in short: absolutely everyone – to abide by his rulebook. White collar narcissist criminals, for instance, see nothing wrong with their misconduct. They regard themselves as law-abiding, God-fearing, community-members. Their acts are committed in a mental enclave, a psychological no man’s land, where no laws or contracts are binding.
The narcissist is sometimes perceived as whimsical, traitorous, posing and double crossing. The truth is that he is predictable and consistent. He follows one over-riding principle: the principle of Narcissistic Supply.
The narcissist had internalized a bad object. He feels corrupt, deserving to fail, to be disgraced and punished. He is forever surprised and thankful when good things happen to him. Out of touch with his own emotions and with his capabilities, he either exaggerates them or underestimates them.
He is likely to be grateful to his partner – and berate her! – for having chosen him to be her mate. Deep inside, he thinks that no one else would have been (or will be) as foolish, blind, or ignorant to have made this choice. The purported stupidity and blindness of his mate or spouse is substantiated by the very fact that she is his mate or spouse. Only a stupid and blind person would have preferred the narcissist, with his myriad deficiencies, to others.
This feeling of a “lucky break” is the true source of the asymmetry in the narcissist’s relationships. The partner, having made this incredible choice to live with the narcissist (to bear this cross) is worthy of special consideration in compensation. The narcissist’s willing partner – a rarity – warrants special treatment and a special (double) standard. The partner can be unfaithful, withholding (emotionally, financially), be dependent, be abusive, critical and so on – and, yet, be forgiven unconditionally.
This, no doubt, is the direct result of the narcissist’s very flawed sense of self worth and of an overpowering sense of inferiority.
This asymmetry is also an effective barrier against the expression of anger, even legitimate anger.
Instead, the narcissist accumulates his grievances every time that the partner takes advantage of the asymmetry (or is perceived by the narcissist to be doing so). The narcissist tries to convince himself that such abuse is an expected result of the daily friction of cohabitation, especially by partners with radically different personalities.
Some of the anger is passively-aggressively expressed. The frequency of sexual relations is reduced. Less sex, less talk, less touch. Sometimes the pent-up aggression erupts explosively in the form of rage attacks. These are usually followed by panicky reactions intended to restore the balance and to reassure the narcissist that he is not about to be abandoned.
Following such rage attacks, the narcissist regresses to passiveness, maudlin tenderness, appeasing gestures, or to wimpish, saccharine, and infantile behavior. The narcissist does not expect or accept same behavior from his partner. She is allowed to be cantankerous to her heart’s content without as much as apologizing.
Another hurdle on the narcissist’s way to establishing lasting (if not healthy) relationships is his excess rationality and, chiefly, his tendency to generalize on the basis of tenuous and flimsy evidence (hyper-inductiviteness).
The narcissist regards abandonment or rejection by his emotional-sexual partners as a final verdict concerning his very ability to have such relationships in the future. Because of the mechanisms of self-denigration I have described, the narcissist is likely to idealize his mate and believe that she must have been uniquely predisposed and “equipped” to cope with him.
He “remembers” the way his partner sacrificed herself on the altar of the relationship. The more convinced the narcissist is that his partner invested extraordinarily in the relationship and the more assured he is that she was uniquely equipped to succeed in it – the more frightened he becomes.
Why the fear?
Because if this partner, as qualified as she was, as desirous of him as she was, failed to sustain the relationship – surely, no one else is likely to succeed. The narcissist believes that he is doomed to an existence of loneliness and destitution. He stands no chance of ever having a resilient, healthy relationship with another partner.
The narcissist would do anything to avoid this conclusion. He begs his partner to return and re-establish the relationship, no matter what transpired. Her very return proves to him that he is worthy, the preferred alternative, someone with whom maintaining a relationship is possible.
Question:
Do narcissists hate women?
Answer:
To re-iterate, Primary Narcissistic Supply (PNS) is any kind of NS provided by people who are not “meaningful” or “significant” others. Adulation, attention, affirmation, fame, notoriety, sexual conquests – are all forms of PNS.
Secondary NS (SNS) emanates from people who are in repetitive or continuous touch with the narcissist. It includes the important roles of narcissistic accumulation and narcissistic regulation, among others.
Narcissists abhor and dread getting emotionally intimate. The cerebral ones regard sex as a maintenance chore, something they have to do in order to keep their Source of Secondary Supply. The somatic narcissist treats women as objects and sex as a means to obtaining Narcissistic Supply.
Moreover, many narcissists tend to frustrate women. They refrain from having sex with them, tease them and then leave them, resist flirtatious and seductive behaviours and so on. Often, they invoke the existence of a girlfriend/fiancée/spouse as the “reason” why they cannot have sex or develop a relationship. But this is not out of loyalty and fidelity in the empathic and loving sense. This is because they wish (and often succeed) to sadistically frustrate the interested party.
But, this pertains only to cerebral narcissists – not to somatic narcissists and to Histrionics (Histrionic Personality Disorder – HPD) who use their body, sexuality, and seduction/flirtation to extract Narcissistic Supply from others.
Narcissists are misogynists. They team up with women who serve as Sources of SNS (Secondary Narcissistic Supply). The woman’s chores are to accumulate past Narcissistic Supply (by witnessing the narcissist’s “moments of glory”) and release it in an orderly manner to regulate the fluctuating flow of primary supply and compensate in times of deficient supply.
Otherwise, cerebral narcissists are not interested in women.
Most of them are asexual (desire sex very rarely, if at all). They hold women in contempt and abhor the thought of being really intimate with them. Usually, they choose for partners submissive women whom they disdain for being well below their intellectual level.
This leads to a vicious cycle of neediness and self-contempt (“How come I am dependent on this inferior woman�). Hence the abuse. When Primary NS is available, the woman is hardly tolerated, as one would reluctantly pay the premium of an insurance policy.
Narcissists of all stripes do regard the “subjugation” of an attractive woman to be a Source of Narcissistic Supply, though.
Such conquests are status symbols, proofs of virility, and they allow the narcissist to engage in “vicarious” narcissistic behaviours, to express his narcissism through the “conquered” women, transforming them into instruments at the service of his narcissism, into his extensions. This is done by employing defence mechanisms such as projective identification.
The narcissist believes that being in love is actually merely going through the motions. To him, emotions are mimicry and pretence.
He says: “I am a conscious misogynist. I fear and loathe women and tend to ignore them to the best of my ability. To me they are a mixture of hunter and parasite.”
Most male narcissists are misogynists. After all, they are the warped creations of women. Women gave birth to them and moulded them into what they are: dysfunctional, maladaptive, and emotionally dead. They are angry at their mothers and, by extension at all women.
The narcissist’s attitude to women is, naturally, complex and multi-layered but it can be described using four axes:
The Holy Whore
The Hunter Parasite
The Frustrating Object of Desire
Uniqueness Roles
The narcissist divides all women to saints and whores. He finds it difficult to have sex (“dirty”, “forbidden”, “punishable”, “degrading”) with feminine significant others (spouse, intimate girlfriend). To him, sex and intimacy are mutually exclusive rather than mutually expressive propositions.
NARCISSISTIC MEN..DO WE CALL THEM HUMAN?
Women represent to the male narcissist the greatest potential threat for sustaining a narcissistic injury. Narcissists, for this one reason, fear the female gender, but do not evidence their fear when associating with females. Instead their behavior and words indicate a dislike and distrust of female motives and intentions.
The narcissist is incapable of coping with the myriad array of emotions that women are capable of displaying. Dealing with these feminine emotions is a potential and real threat to the narcissist’s image as a man or a lover. Female sentiments mentally tax the narcissist. Because he exhausts so much energy thinking about himself, he doesn’t have the vigor to handle female emotions. Since he knows that he is incapable of sustaining a meaningful relationship with a woman he sees these emotions as an even greater threat for narcissistic injury.
A narcissist is skilled at the art of verbal abuse and the narcissist is proficient at verbally abusing women. Narcissists like to frustrate women. Their behavior toward a woman keeps her on the edge of insanity because she doesn’t know what is coming next. The narcissist uses what he deems the blunt or brutal truth to eat away at any attributes that a woman might have. The woman is left with no self-esteem when the narcissist is through with her. This is the way he wants her. If her self esteem is not in tact he can gain control over her and retain her as narcissistic supply.
Narcissists proficiently spin a web of suspense around themselves. They feed on the idea that they are mysterious to others. This is an additional way they have of aggravating women.
And, please ladies don’t invade the narcissist’s personal space. Remember the narcissist can occupy your personal space anytime he wants because he considers himself “special”. If you cross the threshold of his personal space get ready to encounter a narcissistic rage.
The narcissist may sign a marriage certificate, but in his mind he is never “really married” to you. He has simply captured you as a source of narcissistic supply. You are either financially advantageous to him, increase his status, or with your beauty you are an enhancement on his arm.
Narcissists do not enjoy sex or want to have sex with those that they consider to be significant others (wives, girlfriends). But, they will jump at the chance to have sex with a woman they consider to be a vamp. Sex with significant others requires intimacy and a narcissist is incapable of achieving intimacy with others. Narcissists are prone toward having a Madonna/Vamp Complex.
He uses denial as a defense mechanism and does not see his extracurricular affairs as being adultery. He reasons that there are no “emotions involved” in these affairs so he is not cheating. He fails to admit to himself and others, however, that for him there are no emotions involved in his marriage either. He simply is not capable of feeling any emotions even in his marriage.
The narcissistically disordered cannot fall for another and make a relationship with a woman into a true partnership of a sexual or platonic nature. Their disorder prohibits their abilities to manage either kind of situation. Women sooner or later will desire intimacy. This will over shadow all other parts of the relationship and for the narcissist the relationship will become unworkable. A narcissist can never feel another’s love and is completely incapable of returning anything that looks like love to his female partner.
And, if you think that you have “fixed” him, think again. If you want to secure two-three months of a seemingly normal marriage or relationship, either threaten to leave him or leave him. He will pursue you relentlessly. When you’re back in his hold securely, he will immediately revert back to his old self.
Women may over look the grandiosity and attention seeking of the narcissist, but the lack of the narcissist’s ability to exchange feelings of a loving kind is deadly to all intimate relationships.
LMAO, what a long drawn out shame attempt. At least it’s new.
Though copy and pasting doesn’t say much in reality.
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I am shutting this site down.
You are a stupid fuck who wasn’t loved enough by your mommy. Apparently you like taking it in the ass which it totally fine by me since women are less homophobic than men. Just come out of the closet already you piece of shit. Stop hating yourself than others. I realize you were probably and ugly piece of shit in high school and all the girls ignored you but it’s time to get over that….really. It’s ok if your insignificant manhood isn’t large enough to get off a snail…they have pills like Extendz now…try them out. Maybe you will change your views a little bit …just a tad…that is if you can ever even manage to get a women to take notice of you. TO ALL OF YOU ARROGANT PIECES OF SHIT WOMAN HATERS OUT THERE….GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A SPLINTERED BROOKSTICK! YOU ARE NOONE AND NOONE CARES ABOUT YOUR FUCKING RETARDED VIEWS….GOT IT YOU STUPID MOTHER FUCKERS! GET SOME HELP!
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Women like this are truly sick in the head.
Apparently you care about our views. At least enough to come on here screaming like a banshee with the PREDICTABLE shite all retarded women say.
“Retarded women”?
… you didn’t have to say it twice.
(smiles)
point well made Chris ;)
uhh if you havent noticed there are a SHIT LOAD of men that are wayy fatter than women.
This is not the case in the UK. Here just observing everyday life women easily outnumber men 15 to 1 for obesity and I mean easily, it’s likely more. Frankly, I actually don’t blame the many men that appear to be opting out finding long term work,(just browse the site if you need some of the reasons they might concider opting out) if they actually can due to production industries no longer basing themselves here.
Marrying some dried up, aging, miserable, turkey-neck, sandy vagina and miserable cunt is NEVER as much fun (or rewarding) for a man as porn, whacking off or having sex.
True. Good job women don’t start out as what they become through age and childbirth, humanity would become extinct.