Doctor? I Hardly Knew Her!
If there’s one thing that women can’t do as well as men more than anything else, it’s be a doctor.
Men have been being doctors since the beginning of time. Thousands of men throughout history have devoted their lives to it in such a way that the wake of their mantastic sacrifices reverberate all throughout history — which is every man’s true goal.
Every woman’s true goal is to make everyone around her sorry for everything they ever fucking did.
First let me be clear on something. A doctor is someone who deals in medicine, prescriptions, surgery — things of a medical nature for which an expensive education and a government licensed certification are required. Things that do not make you a doctor are dealings in: yoga, herbs, Feng Shui, massage therapy, tons other bullshit. This is an important distinction to make because women are good at all those things. Women are attracted to that kind of feel good, new age, weirdo malarkey like flies to pigs and pigs to shit. However, while they may be good at them, none of those things have any kind of medical use or purpose — except to waste time.
They don’t make you a goddamn doctor either. That’s why there’s no abbreviation for guru, like Gr. Bobby Sinclair. You can touch your ankle to the back of your head? That’s great, but the state medical board doesn’t give a shit and neither does anyone with a broken ass.
Being a doctor is a high pressure job where lives hang in the balance every day and one fuck up can cost you even worse — millions of dollars. High pressure? Have you ever seen a women drive a car to a sporting event? Good luck, she won’t ever do it because the extreme pressure of waiting in a fucking line and letting dickheads cut her off would make her head explode. Watch a woman drive in traffic. The moment she senses any pressure at all — and I mean any, something as simple as changing lanes — she crumbles like a card house built out of Graham crackers.
When it comes to pressure, women are a complete joke. Women can handle pressure as well as they handle giving birth — pathetically and while looking for the nearest man to scream at and/or physically abuse the whole time.
I’m sure I don’t even need to say that being a doctor also requires logic and problem solving skills. Women have none of those. The only thing women should be doing in a hospital is wearing nurse outfits. That doesn’t mean they should be nurses either, just wear the outfits.
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October 15th, 2007 at 2:32 am - IP Man-Hash: d566383163965
While I haven’t read it, I have heard of it Luka. While I don’t disagree with the idea that feminism is a factor, I consider it to be a major one. You mention the war effort, (which women still haven’t had to really fight and die in one), and the pill (a technology that hasn’t been applied to Men) along with an ideology feminism (which claims equality but is blatantly hypocritical in applying it). What is the “factor” that I consider out of all of this? It has come from the blood, deaths, and minds of Men. It is mostly at the expense of Men that women have gained their “equality”.
Well for starters, LISTEN. STOP TALKING. You all are very good at it I am sure. The anger and rage that come from websites like this isn’t false or baseless and if you haven’t noticed more and more of them are popping up daily. This movement is growing faster every year. I seriously wouldn’t want to be on the other side of the isle when the proverbial shit hits the fan. Men are waking up to the fact that they have been duped and they are plenty pissed off. Some 19 year old, that probably isn’t out of school, can do very little in the face of this. Understand that many of the Men here aren’t that interested in debating. You may call it bitching, or whining, or any of the standard female shaming tactics, however it is a human necessity to rant, or blow off steam in the face of something like this AND WE WILL DO IT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, we have been told this by women for the last 40 years or so. Your arguments add fuel to the fire.
I understand Luka that you do these things, and I have had several interesting conversations with you on here. I consider you worthy of respect and I am simply telling it how I see it.
As to women “benefiting” from feminism, where to start? How much time do you really have? We can start with reproduction, or we could move on the the Title IX challenges to Male sports teams, how about policy on sexual harassment, or affirmative hiring practices? How about legally being able to opt out of raising children, but also being able to legally enslave a man who has no choice in the matter? The welfare system? Section 8 housing policies that immediately puts women w/children, then women at the top of the waiting list even though Men are the majority of the homeless? Domestic Violence policies which have been written so the majority of offenders will be male? Anyone hear about a female draft recently? Didn’t think so. When exactly did alimony get outlawed again? Oh thats right never. Want to talk about sentencing policies for Male and female offenders?
Now I agree that this also comes with other side-effects. Men are instinctively distrustful of women nowdays, and if you haven’t noticed the declinng birth and marriage rates, you can see that a lot of Men are certainly opting out of a biased and archaic system. Women like to call that being “commitment-phobic”, I call it being smart. Men are also voting with their feet. We are leaving. Something I plan to do within the next decade. I refuse to slave and pay taxes to a country that hates what I am by nature of birth.
What exactly does she expect to achieve here Luka? I think that women have the same amount of “voting” power that Men do, and have voted in people that have caused this situation as well and then decide to complain when Men voice their own opinions. Does she hope to change hearts and minds? Maybe get a date? I have no idea. I do so tire of the repetitive and mind-numbingly similar insults that she slings out. Sure, Mans Man or whoever shouldn’t have either but one can take a LOOK at the SITE and see whats going to happen. Personally I commend her for trying, and with a few corrections in her grammar she could cognitively discuss her opinions here or elsewhere, I don’t say this in apology, I say it because its what I see.
Men haven’t banded together, like we should have right when feminism started, because WE didn’t think that we needed to. Its that whole trust thing, which I might add stopped in the early 90’s when I think Men as a whole collectively started to pull the knife out their back and wake up to the fact that women had stabbed them. We are starting to do so now. I would also add that many of us don’t get to sit around all day(I am not implying that you do, however many women do). Many Men (such as myself) work at either physically ardurous jobs, or long hours, or both. In short we don’t have enough TIME to do so. However that is changing as well. Many of us are making time for it.
-Strength and Honor-
October 15th, 2007 at 3:11 am - IP Man-Hash: b24fa70c8e643
52% of the population is women. Politicians pander to that vote in order to get elected. Thus Feminist policies creep in, ever so slowly but surely. The presence of Manginae whose testicles bear the weight of their wife or girlfriends tyranny, is another factor which acts against an expedient solution to this problem.
What will eventually solve the dilemma is natural consequences. No feminist system survives the test of real world consequences. Those consequences are occurring now in the form of the Marriage Strike, delinquent offspring of single mothers, an overburdened social security system because of those permanently unemployed single mothers, and rampant social dissatisfaction across the board stemming from the absence of stable family units (nuclear families).
Luka asks, “why aren’t men clubbing together and changing the world that they claim to be running”. The real question is, why do women not club together and assist the Men instead of acting radically against them, and ironically by extension, their own best interests.
Feminism IS beginning to fail as a result of it’s own destructive natural consequences. When was the last time YOU saw a Wedding convoy drive past? It’s been so long for me I can’t even remember.
October 15th, 2007 at 3:49 am - IP Man-Hash: eeb32e3dc6874
52% of the population may be women. Temporarily. Their lifespans are starting to decrease.
Your points are very interesting Abaddon and Mansman. The SSI system has been bankrupted because of women who sat at home to collect welfare. The blame was shifted onto fathers not paying child support. Like that had something to do with mom not working.
No they don’t want to be able to be drafted, pay alimony, or be prosecuted for DV. Things that all men have to do or are prosecuted for. Since this marriage strike has started I do look for them to try to punish unwed fathers. I stated that before.
But we do have one big thing on them. No civilized country can survive without an infrastructure. Something they cannot have unless we do it.
October 15th, 2007 at 4:01 am - IP Man-Hash: 2f854bed461cf
@ Luka: Who says men arent going to stand up? For starters, I am going to set up a man’s right organisation when I grow up. I am 17 now. In 10 years, there will be an ACTIVE and politically strong man’s rights organisation in my country. I plan to establish links with other man’s rights organisations over this planet. There is NOW, eh? Well, I also plan on starting an International Man’s Organisation if possible. One man probably wont change the world. A group of men, maybe. Men collectively? Fuck, yes.
The world will change in the next 10-20 years and contrary to what the feminists claim, it wont be a matriachy. I swear it.
October 15th, 2007 at 10:49 am - IP Man-Hash: 23f61237efbe9
I appreciate your viewpoints, they are being listened to (not that it means much to many of you) I need to consider your points in more depth before I respond. I don’t agree with all you have said, but you have offered some interesting food for thought.
October 15th, 2007 at 6:01 pm - IP Man-Hash: 6fc645e9b4eb7
Mansman, I’m not whining nor am I uncapable or seaking help. But when you acuse me of not doing enough, I simply, simply ask you what you intend for me to do. And while I’m not siding with the men or feminist its more as independent. Like republicans, democrats and independents. The independents are the smallest group and rarly get any respect or notation. See if 852,874 men don’t make a difference what will one woman.
MansVoice, you want to start a ‘club’ type thing and yet for what? Feminists at least have a point, as for respect. They concured equalty, what now? Thats why I don’t approve of feminists. To start a club for respect isn’t going to do good. If anything they’ll lose the little respect they have. So what are you going to do with your own? You have equalty, respect and this stupid website. What more do you want.
October 15th, 2007 at 7:10 pm - IP Man-Hash: 999461e62bd0b
@Luka: Your viewpoint has always been respected by me because your discourse has always been respectful. I await your response.
@Hope: All that I hope for Hope, is that you wake up to the fact that in several areas of society Men are severely discriminated against. I don’t expect you to rise up and foment social change by yourself. I ask you to realize that the policies that you benefit from are at the expense of Men. Sometimes this is good in the short term, but in the long-term it almost always is a bad thing if it is at someone elses expense.
Hope said:
MansVoice, you want to start a ‘club’ type thing and yet for what? Feminists at least have a point, as for respect. They concured equalty, what now? Thats why I don’t approve of feminists. To start a club for respect isn’t going to do good. If anything they’ll lose the little respect they have. So what are you going to do with your own? You have equalty, respect and this stupid website. What more do you want.
This is what I am talking about hope. You are failing to grasp the larger picture in my view. There is a need for redress, a need for balance, and a need for open, large scale, debate in a national if not global forum on the needs of Men in order to better ALL of society. You cannot throw away the wants and needs of half of the human population, or if that isn’t possible, subjugate them with your own and not expect some sort of backlash. What MansVoice is talking about is something to balance the NOW, in the political process. An entity to procure funding for Men in need and to balance the current gynocentric culture we live in. Personally I would wish that the MRM doesn’t get involved in an already extremely corrupt political process, but if wishes were money I’d be a millionare.
How do feminists have a point and what point would that be? I am curious. Surely Men do have respect on here, but it is only here. When I walk out the door, I KNOW, because I have had this said to my face, that I am considered a potential child-molester/rapist/beater simply due to my gender. I think you have said similar things to other Men on this board which proves my point to a small degree. Women are brainwashed to think this way about us, when in fact a small percentage of us commit these crimes statistically and women commit similar crimes as well.
-Strength and Honor-
October 15th, 2007 at 7:19 pm - IP Man-Hash: eeb32e3dc6874
Please tell me she didn’t say we have equality and respect.
October 16th, 2007 at 2:27 pm - IP Man-Hash: 6fc645e9b4eb7
See but those are just some women abbadon. I don’t think that way simply because I hate generalizing. Of course I do it, it’s almost impossible not to in some degree. But I do try.
Mike, yes we do. Its just those ignorant people with their ‘old values’. The same people that think race is a big factor.
October 16th, 2007 at 2:35 pm - IP Man-Hash: 6fc645e9b4eb7
So I’m not sure about who said this, and I’m not a big fan of looking it up right now but it was something about men dying in wars. Women are now too just realize. But yes, for our freedom, MEN have fought for us. True. I’m not going to get controversal or anything but you have to look at everything with a positive and negative side. Men’s bravery and stubbornness has won wars for us and in relavence to that, has kept us free. But also their bravery and stubbornness has started unnecessary wars and little pity fights. So no doubt they’ve done good, but also bad.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:17 pm - IP Man-Hash: 43a15a7732fec
@Abaddon- You make good points. There are a few things I’d like to point out though.
You talk about women being ignorant when it comes to politics, but I can tell you that definetly is not a trait confined to women. I belong to a non-partisan voter registration organization at my university, and before the 2006 congressional elections, I went door-to-door to encourage students to register to vote. It was interesting, because dorms are segregated by gender (there are “guys” floors and “girls” floors in each dorm). The overwhelming majority of both genders had no clue what I was talking about. “Election for what?”, “Who’s running?”, “I thought the elections were in 2008″, etc. The men were just as bad as the women, sadly.
“I think that women have the same amount of “voting” power that Men do, and have voted in people that have caused this situation as well and then decide to complain when Men voice their own opinions.”
Women have the power to vote, but who could they vote for to improve the situation of men? Politicians never address the issue. I support most of the men’s rights issues that come up on this site, but what candidate or political party could I turn to? Neither major party has a stance on it, as far as I know, and the candidates are silent.
Also, the common response is that women wouldn’t support candidates who address men’s rights. I would argue that it’s partly out of fear. I despise the draft, I think men absolutely deserve equal rights to their children, I think women and men should receive the same punishments for the same crimes. But when I see sites like this where men say in earnest that women shouldn’t have the right to vote, that it should be perfectly legal to discriminate against women in the workplace, etc., I begin to fear for my own rights. I’m sure many other women feel the same way. I support men’s rights fully, but not at the expense of my own. It’s a shame that both genders seem to have a need to try to overpower the other, rather than working together to create laws that are fair to all.
October 16th, 2007 at 11:48 pm - IP Man-Hash: eeb32e3dc6874
Agreed Alex. Discrimination is wrong. I to despise the draft. But if men are to be made eligible then so should women. I think that’s called discrimination. I understand you are for mens rights. But it’s kind of sad you said not at the expense of your own. Would you clarify that?
Hope no there isn’t equality. When I can’t get custody of a child because I have the wrong genitalia, something is wrong. When a woman can hit a man and walk away unpunished something is wrong. You need to understand there are a host of things men have to do or expected to do. These same things women aren’t.
Yes, your points are well taken. By it does no good to dredge up more things pertaining to alleged female inequality. When the problem of male discrimination is fixed then your viewpoints would be more well taken. You say what difference can you make in all of this.
What if the men who helped women said the same thing. This viewpoint is why I will never support any type of legislation that helps women in any way.
October 16th, 2007 at 11:49 pm - IP Man-Hash: 50da02be8381c
I bow before your manly presence. It addressed all that I wanted to bring up. Excellent stuff. Feminists have no point except in destroying the lives of others.
October 16th, 2007 at 11:51 pm - IP Man-Hash: 2963e11061bb5
Listen girl. You benefited from the actions of our forefathers who made groundbreaking achievements. Who were these “foreFATHERS”? MEN of course. All in all, men have done way more good than bad.
I still stand that the biggest mistake men made was allowing women to vote. Way to fuck things up.
October 16th, 2007 at 11:57 pm - IP Man-Hash: 50da02be8381c
Two things. Firstly, I dont think its all solely about fear. Women are just being plain selfish at times. Do you think women want to be drafted? No. Implementing the draft will kill off a politician career because women will oppose it to the death. Thats being plain ass selfish. For men, what happens when we get drafted? We suck it up and go to war. Thats why men deserve their rights, they earned them.
On the second issue, I blame the feminists. They started this gender war, now they will pay the price.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:33 am - IP Man-Hash: f68191fe56ea6
MansVoice said:
Do you think men want to be drafted? No.
Except the ones that chose to go to jail.
No, men deserve rights because they’re living creatures.
…You really aren’t or were a history student, were you? Unless you’re counting the first wave of feminists that decided that they wanted to be seen more as equals as the initiation of the “war of the sexes”.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:46 am - IP Man-Hash: f57e72e727dd1
I am fine with serving and dying for my country. I am not fine, however, with the hypocrisy of feminists who prevaricate around the issue of the draft.
Yeah, how many of them are there? Proof please?
Thats what the weak say. We deserve rights because we are all a bunch of happy equal people. Fuck that horseshit. You earn your rights along with the responsibilities .
I topped my cohort about 6 times in 7 major history exams, earning several prestigeous history awards along the way. You dont get my point, do you? I am saying feminists are FULL OF SHIT . EARLY, NOW, LATER - It all doesnt FUCKING MATTER because all of them are about “ME ME AND MORE OF ME”. By virtue of your sex, you are a beneficiary of their actions so dont tell me “WHAT I KNOW AND WHAT I DONT” because thats shoving me a hypocrisy stick.
Feminists are liars. They proclaim equality when what they really want is hegemony. I believed I, as well as numerous other men, have stated that is one of our key beliefs on this site as seen in our numerous posts?
Wake up and get a reality check.
October 17th, 2007 at 4:10 am - IP Man-Hash: eeb32e3dc6874
The truth is MansVoice men don’t wan’t to be drafted either. But the vast majority go. Every guy in the U.S. could have fled to Canada during Vietnam. But they didn’t. So I guess she’s not the history major she thinks.
They always say they don’t wan’t to be drafted. Nor do they blame us for not wanting to be. But that fails to answer the question of why they aren’t. They don’t wan’t to be isn’t a valid excuse.
See if they really wanted to be equal, they would be trying to eradicate the draft alltogether. Or pushing so they could be to.
October 17th, 2007 at 4:25 am - IP Man-Hash: 50da02be8381c
Like I said Mike, I dont speak for all men. I speak for myself as above.
I agree largely with what you have said. Women are a bunch of hypocrites and Clair epitomizes this with her satire on “hypocrisy”.
October 17th, 2007 at 4:29 am - IP Man-Hash: f68191fe56ea6
Mike5150, you can’t deny though, that there WERE men that chose jail over war. Yes a minority, but there were some. They count to. I’m not belittling them by any means though.
As for all American men not fleeing to Canada, there is a sociological explanation for part of that. Americans are extremely patriotic.
The drafting issue, I’ve already discussed this with MansVoice (I’m pretty sure it was, forgive me if I’m wrong) when he advocated that I fight that woman should be drafted to. To which I replied no, I don’t support drafting.