Women Hate Babies
Women hate children.
Remember that book Hillary Clinton wrote called “It takes a Village to Raise a Child”? I don’t know if that was the exact title. It’s not important enough of a thing for me to remember in that manner of detail. That was the point though; that women can’t raise children on their own. They need help and more importantly they need men.
Remember that movie Three Men and a Baby? I do remember that title exactly because that was a good fucking movie. What was the moral of that movie?
Men don’t need shit to raise shit — babies.
Women fucking suck at raising children. Men can raise children, work full time jobs, maintain hobbies like drinking and bowling, and all while saving time to chase tail. That’s because men are men. We’re better parents and when it comes to living life we’re like octopuses on crack; our tentacles in one hundred different pies.
Women hate babies and children. That’s why women love little dogs so much — because they’re all fucking sick.
Want to know how you’ve really pissed off a woman? One good way to know is that fucking her isn’t like fucking a futon. She’s still terrible at it, but don’t feel bad about giving her credit for enthusiasm. Women need all the charity they can get.
Another good way to know if you’ve gotten under a woman’s skin is if she’s speaking to you like a child. When women are yelling and screaming, that’s about a 5 on the feminine anger scale. A 1 on the scale is the silent treatment. That lasts for about a week or until said woman figures out that’s the dumbest fucking way on Earth to show a man you’re upset with him. That’s like heaven to a man. It also has never lasted less than a week.
When a woman is talking to you like a child — very patronizingly and almost giddy with a repressed psycho-mania — that’s when you know you’ve pissed her off. By the way, that’s also when you know she’s about ten seconds away from pulling your pants off. That’s information you can use at your discretion.
That’s why women shouldn’t be allowed to raise babies on their own. They hate babies. Women treat people they hate the same way they treat children — patronizing and bubbly. Men don’t ever pull that kind of shit. When a man is upset, he calmly, cooly, and sternly explains himself. Men treat babies differently than people they hate. That’s what I’m saying here.
It’s a myth that women like babies. They just want to have them. They want to have babies like they want to have purses and Starbuck’s. The only difference is you can’t sell babies on eBay.
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Here is irrefutable proof that women (most) hate babies. Modern American women does two things very well; bitch and moan. She and her husband have a couple of kids, both work (gender equality, remember?). She always claims the husband doesn’t do shit around the house or help with the children, which is a bold faced lie to make her look like she does more than she actually does. If she stays at home and ‘cares’ for the children, all we hear is ‘how much hard work’ it is. A father stays home with the children, scratches his head and wonders ‘what the fuck is she complaining and/or talking about’? It’s NOT work, they are your children, you dumb ass broad. It seems if it doesn’t involve doing your nails, gossiping on the phone for hours on end, spending someone else’s hard earned money, getting a spa treatment, cheating on your husband, shopping for idiotic and worthless items, feeding your fat face, admiring yourself in the mirror, or doing more of those self absorbed things that you do 24 hours a day, it’s work. Women hate babies because they claim babies are work. Men are better for babies and children than women.
well ya mst be a sum1 who didn’t get neluv frm a mother…or ur mum mst hv left ya or sumthng other wise ya wudn’t cum up wid such an article…mothers r known to b kindest person on earth…dey luv der child if dey wudn’t hv den i guess mother earth wud b father earth…der wudn’t b a mother mary bringin up jesus der wud b a father…n guess mst child custody wud go to da father bt dat dosn’t happen cuz ya bring logic totally out of nowhere widout ne meaning… hw can ya hate a mother gawd…do one dat lukd afta ya fr 9 months…tell cud ya live fr 9 months carryin a lyf in ur stomach nt being able to do mst of da thngs ya lyk …lyk drinkin n stuff….n liv fr dat lil lyf in ur body…ya wudn’t evn last a week let alone months…no wonder god made sure ya’ll dnt take care of babies…
JESUS TO HI S OWN mother “Woman what does thou have to do with me”
Compelling, although not very insightful – or readable.
Buy a dictionary. Please. Then use it to reference EVERY word you think you know how to spell before you write it.
God has nothing to do with a woman’s genetic role. Didn’t you hear? God, who is apparently a man by the way was killed by Darwin. Now he was a real man rather than a made up supernatural one.
He had a man beard that we can all appreciate.
and just think
fat chris kills babies every time he sees one
after he trys to rape them
god, chris, you sick fucking piece of trash
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS DECENT AND HOLY
LEAVE CHILDREN ALONE
STOP RAPING LITTLE BOY, LITTLE GIRLS, AND BABIES
GOD, THE JAILS ARE TOO OVERCROWDED WITH
YOU GUYS
STOP
STOP
STOP
JUST STOP RAPING YOU FUCKING IDIOT@!!!
PUT THAT LITTLE FUCKING THING AWAY
i dont hate babies, i just think im incapable of raising them. due to my fragile nervous system, mental illness. and maturity to realize that i may not indeed turn out to be a good parent. and i dont want them. that is why human nature is corrupt. if you read scientific literature people can become corrupt if they are not raised and nurtured properly.
I’LL GLADLY CARVE YOUR CUNT MOUTH WILL A KNIFE YOU RETARDED GOOD FOR NOTHING BITCH!
I agree with some of your thoughts. On the other hand, I disagree. For instance, you assume most women hate babies. Guess what, I dont want children, you want to know why? I never had an electra complex because my father was a dick. a pathological narcissist,( they are abusive) and guess what ( talking to you like a child, they come in all sexes. My father threw a fucking sock at me when i was a baby. my mother never did this, If you had a bad mother, youre going to perceive all women as bad or this may be because you continue to subconsciously get into relationships with cruel women. I know this because i did this with men. For instance, my dad raged and got angry. He hated me the most, not my brother because i was female. I never resented my brother for this ( as most people would assume) because i loved him. so there you go I’m not a man-hater. at times i would sacrafice and protect him. most women who are narcissistic, tend to be more frigid and cock-teasers as opposed to women who are capable of feeling” narcissism is the absense ( actually, denial of feeling) hey some) men suck in bed as well. and others, are relatively good. Im not religious, but you may want to check out genesis.” women and men are no different. Or people come in good and bad regardless of whether they are male or female.
so, i have thought disorder, let me get to the point,,,
i wanted to find a gentle man, someone opposed to my father, who wouldnt rage, or insult, or berrate me because he was angry with his mother. but guess, what, some men play the silent treatment too. And some” do this to control women. You might want to read up on some literature on the passive aggressive male. So, you see where I’m coming from. I subconciously was* ( although i try not to at times) find men who resemble my father. though i wasnt looking for it. Yes, women can be cruel, catty, jealous, competitive, man bashing selfish, but so can men. Not all women are like this. And if youre wondering why i becam this way, all brainy and shit, its because i was rejected* by males early in adolescence. this is also a freudian theory, so you dont percieve me as being haughty, or trying to control. Most of the literature ive read up on. usually ( if you have an oedipal complex females it might be otherwise but, men are more about control and ( normal) women . empathy. trying to teach or build consensus for the better views of mankind.
some of what frederich neitszche said about women was true( but his sister stole his work, and he most likely was raised with narcissistic women. SO i tend to see his point, disgregaurd what i dont entirely agree with and try to understand him and his perspectives,as a person and philosopher.
check your browser samuel vankin narcissism why narcissistic men hate females. and tend to be abusive. same goes for some( **cruel *feminists who treat there husbands like shit.
GO FUCK YOUR OWN GENDER WHORE-BITCH! JUST KEEP BLEEDING EVERY MONTH BITCH!
Oh, God, another father hater. Run for cover…incoming…
Haha, ok fine. I’m pretty much ashamed to be a man reading some of these things on here. Why don’t the rest of the men on this page go and be gay with each other if you want all women gone from earth. Why don’t you try and have a child and attempt to squeeze it out of your genitals? Of course your incapable to do that. Clearly none of the men here have been in a good relationship. So your probably all lonely porn-addicted men. And as for people saying “Women only come here to bitch.” Well yes, your accusing them of many terrible things. Also wanted to add, Dick is all in it for the money. He just sits here watching all you Weeping gross men cry & cheer over little online blogs and Dick’s goal is to make women come on here and feel upset over the site and fight back and it just causes controversy. If there was a website http://www.Womenarebetterthanmen.com im pretty sure we would have men coming on there complaining but hey, women don’t see the need to put such ridiculous websites up. If you had a fantastic relationship with a woman like i do right now, i doubt you would be saying any of these things. Continue crying and making Dick a rich man. To the lonely men here you seem to be doing a good job!
Those are quite the assumptions to make. Would you bet your life on them?
You’re pretty much ashamed to be a man?? Why?? Because we are men who do things in OUR best interest instead of a woman’s? I am “pretty much” ashamed to hear that haven’t had nearly enough experience with women.
You gynocentric manginas and “nice guys” are a JOKE.
No wonder you finish last.
In fact – you have a deep, inherent belief that you are BETTER than other guys because you are so “nice”.
“Nice guys” offer women compliments, worship, kindness, generosity, unearned “respect” and adoration no matter WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OR HER BEHAVIOR.
Yeah , you heard me.
—>> You are “nice” NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OR HER BEHAVIOR.
That’s not “nice”. That’s LAME.
And that’s not a “good relationship” either. That’s a man without standards (or choices) who will do – and say – anything for pussy.
In fact, you “nice guys” actually think you have that all figured out, until your “amazing relationship” girlfriend cheats on you (or leaves you) and fucks another guy like me….. while you are left standing there scratching your head wondering what happened because you were always so “nice” to her.
But when you are being NICE in order to make someone LIKE you more — YOU’RE BEING MANIPULATIVE.
And women KNOW when they are being purchased.
They LOVE getting a diamond ring from a ‘nice guy’.
They LOVE being treated like hookers who will fuck you when you are so nice and will buy them things, don’t they. What a “good relationship” you have – treating your girlfriend like a prostitute who will fuck you as long as she is getting something ELSE.
You think you’re paying for it NOW???
Just wait.
That goes for all you NICE girls out there, too. Stop being a doormat for cripe sakes! Make him accountable, make him earn respect. Don’t cook for him, clean for him, give him backrubs, stroke his ego….etc.
Until he proves he’s worth it!
Sex is okay though because it’s just sex. :)
Give it a rest bitch.
You’re not paying for drinks or dinner…. nor do even make the effort to walk up and introduce yourself. Nor do you work a year of your life to save 2 months of after-tax savings to purchase a diamond ring to “ask for permission to love him”.
Accountable??
MEN PAY alimony and 95% of child support for you lazy cunts who can’t – or won’t.
Get your stinky pussy off this website.
And clean your mother out next time your done.
Im serious.
Menarebetterthanwomen.
{{Don’t cook for him, clean for him, give him backrubs, stroke his ego….etc. }}.
Why bitch, thats your job, thats your duty as wife??..
If you are not good for that, why don’t you simply fuck off??..
GTFO fro this site.
{{Until he proves he’s worth it! }}
A man does not have to prove anything to wimmin.
You bitches better prove yourself whether you are fit for man’s love & affection through your action & deeds.
Chsingfantasy is one of the women who came here stupid and left smarter.
After convo with Chris, she admited HE was right.
Yes, go suck chrises ass more maybe he will let you into his little angryman club
YOU are the angry little cunt who won’t get off my cock.
Angry? are you kidding?
I already came twice.
Court ordered, yes. But how many of them actually follow through?
Where are those statistics?
Wrong cunt. Not court ordered. Men pay child support for CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT EVEN THEIR OWN. Because you fraud hookers will lie to your men and children for dear life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternity_fraud
Your statistics are right there if you did your fucking homework….
Statistics from the United States, Australia and other countries suggest that approximately 30% of all paternity tests exclude the putative father as biological father.
Fuck you’re stupid.
That means 70% ARE the father. Yes, fraud exists. But I still don’t see statistics of men who are ordered to pay child support…and then don’t!
Why would you need to see that statistic when it’s still legal in this country for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent.
Now go play sperm vaccuum on a fat cock.
its time for your feeding.
Okay, once again Mr. Logical…let me explain.
You preach that it’s up to women to decide what to do with their own bodies. Men ARE NOT responsible for birth control…, therefore; women are to “blame” if they get pregnant.
So…using your logic there, then it’s also up to the woman TO GET pregnant!
You can’t have it both ways. There’s that gray that doesn’t exist again!!
Black. White.
Why is it the only thing women DON’T take seriously here is NO WOMEN ALLOWED – FUCK OFF THIS WEBSITE….. but they live and breathe every other word as gospel.
Fuck I can’t stop laughing.
This is what women are capable of…. and they STILL think they’re “special”.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01072009/news/regionalnews/husband_demands _1_5m_from_wife_for_kidne_149092.htm
Menarebetterthanwomen.
Owned!
Yes you certainly are.
Never yammer on about “logic” to a man when you don’t even have the basic understanding of logic that “fuck off and go away no woman allowed” means you are unwelcome and uninvited…. in exactly the same way that men are not welcome in the ladies room.
Men are not stupid enough – or rude enough – to intrude on a gaggle of women who don’t want them there.
Menarebetterthanwomen.
You are a moron, I can’t believe your woman let you use the computer to type your stupid shit. Well, you were typing something that her feminist ass would agree with so, nevermind, I know why she let you. But to the point, not all women are as stupid as Dick explains but most are, my wife agrees with me 100%. She loves our son and doesn’t talk to me like a child, maybe thats because I put my foot up her ass if she even thinks about it. Women can’t raise children without a man, my wife can’t even get our 2 year old to take her seriously. I stand up and he stops, so Dick is right, a man can raise a child by himself, but a women, fuck, not a chance, at least not a fully functional child.
Stop pretending to be a guy.
Bloody Bitch.
GTFO.
Studioline: You couldn’t be more wrong. I left this conversation knowing that I owned Chris! Read the words…it’s written very clearly. Or d o y o u n e e d m e t o s l o w d o w n f o r y o u?
You are right, I gave you too much of a credit. I take that back:)
It’s OK Studioline… for some reason, they really like to pretend fucking off is “their idea”.
You’ll almost NEVER hear a woman say “What you really don’t want me here? OK. I’m really sorry. Of course, I’ll leave right away. I didn’t mean to intrude. Bye.”
And you’ll DEFINITELY never hear her SHUT THE FUCK UP and leave on her own either.
Its quite astonishing how quickly you can tell a woman’s cunt factor.
It is astinishing, and gurls don’t know that.
The cunt factor, if its there is actually the first thing a man sees.
If its there?
Most women will INTRODUCE their cunt factor to you without an invitation. The dumbest cunts actually think it’s “attractive”.
Just recently a woman said to me “AND I’m a bitch. Get used to it.”
I couldn’t believe my fuckin’ ears.
So I said “No thanks. Leave.”
You should have seen the expression on her face. This happens regularly. They shove their cunt factor in your face and wonder why no man will call again.
Menarebetterthanwomen.
Chris, do you mind that we are exchanging ideas?
I’d like to know because I respect all the advice you have given.
I suppose you don’t mind, so there is one idea:
Her – And I m a bitch, Get used to it. [ I assume this was after somoe interaction when you got some value already]
MAN’s responce – Well, Me, I do not even talk to bitches, so I guess we won’t be talking much, Bye then.
And you turn your back.
Now she has to engage you, or leave.
Interesting, and most of the time they WILL engage you when you walk away – or tell HER to.
But I am not the type who wants a girl who introduces herself as a bitch to “engage” me.
I would rather be engaged to a mole on my ass.
… a mole on my ass that looks exactly like Raisa.
That’s another story.
I can imagine the in US all women are this way. Cos this is a mandatory behaviour, they learn that since an early age. But I don’t know that for sure since Im not there. I just understand american culture and know that if there is a trend everyone – girl must follow and obey.
I know that by nature, this neurotic hehavior is not natural for women. Most of them are not born this way, only like lest’s say 40% maybe. It’s just an assumption, cos if you take a naturally normal woman and you expose her to brainwashing, who knows what’s the proportion. And everyone of the is.
The woman by nature is quite different to what the bahavior is right now. That’s why so much anger and confusion in women.
To rediscover for a woman her real self it’s quite a task and I don’t blame any man who doesn’t want to undertake such a task. Especially because he would then have to fight all the brainwashing, that is “in the air” all the time.
I just happen to know how to make that happen for myself. I guess it’s by an accident I might be as well a freak of a nature. So at the same time I know and observe that men, those who get into relationship do it all wrong. They don’t know how to stay in power and they never actually have it cos they never remove the Persona in the first place and women only play them from the day one.
I think what I got is kind of a gift and I would be happy to share this with other men/ people. But all technicly in detail how to do that, I don’t know yet.
At the same time I think – why men must always do all the work??? Why it must be always men and why these lazy bitches only know how to wait.
There is also the other way – If ALL men stoped to chase women for a month women would have to drop the Persona and go back to being real. When a man deals with a natural woman he naturally knows how to lead her.
The way I do it is first I seduce a woman, then I have sex with her and then I remove the Persona and then I have a natural women so can decide what can be done with that individual.
If the Persona was gone guys would naturally pick the process up from the last steap. Just like in the old times, kidn of.
BUT BACK TO THE TOPIC
Im curious if there in US you meet sometimes a woman who doesn’t have a BS – Persona attached to her???
Yeah of course. They exist.
In my experience its about 5% MAX of women you meet here. And only 5% of those 5% are actually American!
You could go through the rest of your life simply refusing to date ALL American women and you will NOT miss a THING.
…. in fact, not dating American women under any circumstances is actually GOOD FOR YOU.
SHIT
Then I don’t know what you guys will do because for a woman removing the Persona is as “easy” as for a person is to remove a cancer by themself.
Shit I have a cure and I can’t share it.
Most men think that seducing a woman = removing the Persona = everything will be fine after that.
No it won’t be. It’s just temporary relief, It’s like treating cancer with morphine, works for a limited amount of time. While you use morphine only bcause you wanna do the surgery.
Oh don’t get me wrong.
There are PLENTY of foreign women here.
Amercunts are PERFECT for sport-fucking and chucking. They are just not worth getting into a “relationship” with.
Just tell an American girl “I think you would make an interesting friend”…. and she will be swinging from your dick before the appetizers arrive.
I NEVER think about a “relationship” with a girl for at LEAST 3 to 6 months. What kind of sane man WOULD??
That’s just what WOMEN want.
…. and the moment you stop giving a rats ass about what THEY want, you are concentrating on what YOU want…. and what’s in YOUR best interest.
If anyone (especially a girl you barely know) has a “problem” with a man who does things that are in his best interest, then that’s HER problem.
Relationships and Marriages with American girls are not in a man’s best interest.
Fortuntately, there are PLENTY of foreign women in Los Angeles.
Ok I think I can see now your approach.
That’s a comforting thought, you are dealing with it so well.
I feel more peace now:)
Well you know how it is…. just approach any girl like you don’t want anything from her and you don’t have to do anything else.
• “Wow thats a big purse. You carry a GUN in there?”
• “Look at those NAILS!!! I think I better leave.”
• “I think you might make an interesting friend.”
etc.
AA,
Who said anything about being a wife?? Holy crap hon…pay attention!
Actually James, they do have websites advertising their feminist agenda against all things male, also they have control either directly or indirectly in at least 3 countries.
The United Kingdom alone has some of the most unrealistic anti-male tactics Ive ever seen.
The Unites States, is pretty much a clusterfuck of feminism, its in the media, the courts, much like the U.K.
Canada, loves a good divorce. I think their government just can’t wait for one to happen.
I think the unwanted element that keeps making their appearance on this site, knows damn well, we as men know there is something really fucked up going on in the world today.
Now as for the Topic “Women Hate Babies”, I gotta agree with this, I know plenty of women who would gladly hand over their newborns to someone else if they weren’t getting payed for it. Which is why abortions stay legal.
WHERE’S DIRTY, FILTHY MUZALON, UGLY, MURDERING JEWBOY EXTRAORDINAIRE?
GTFO and STFU, OR VICE VERSA, BITCH.
YES, I OWN THIS SITE………………..COME ON OUT, KIDDIES…………AT LEAST PRETEND YOU ARE MEN………..
YES, I OWN THIS SITE…………………..WHY DON’T YOU COWARDS COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK AND WRITE SOMETHING………I’VE GOT THE TIME TO TRY TO INTEPRET YOUR PATHETIC ATTEMPTS AT WRITING, IDIOTS………lol
You do quite PATHETICALLY on your own, thank you.
Hey!!! I’ve got a novel idea for the loons who resort to your “style,” though: why don’t you come up with SOME EVIDENCE for the VERY PERSONALIZED things you’re claiming on here? (Ha ha ha ha – yeah, right!)
You have, nevertheless, provided more and consistent evidence that the whimminly creatures which exist among us can’t handle ANYBODY who’s not kissing their ass, and by default, will resort to (very personalized) conjecture, and ad hominem.
WayToGo,Dingbat-
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YOU KNOW DICK’S GIRLFRIEND ALLOWS DICK TO RAPE HER CHILDREN?
Why, are you his girlfriend?
AND WHAT IS WITH THIS WEIRD OBSESSION WITH GERMAINE GREER? GOD, WHAT PLANET ARE YOU SUBHUMAN FAILURES ON ANYWAYS? GOOD GOD, NO WONDER WHY ALL OF YOUR NEVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING OF WORTH…………
GEEZ, JUST BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT NOW, PRICKS……SERIOUSLY, THE WORLD DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU……LOL
LMAO- Wellllllll, cum dump for Daddy, if you had read anything on the site at all you would know. But, since you didn’t we just chalk you up to another worthless vagina, without a brain.
I OWN THIS SITE NOW…….lol……………………
Comment by Dick Masterson, cumdump for his Daddy
2009-07-11 21:12:38 – IP Man-Hash: d671abe2b817f
I OWN THIS SITE NOW…….lol……………………it said as it was hanging out of a birds ass.
What kind of pathetic moron are you ?
Hell, you’re not even worthy of being bird shit fertilizer.
LOL
Drew, you are a fucking idiotic failure who cannot spell, no wonder why your intelligent, classy mother wished you were dead.
Grow up and stop blaming successful women for your failures, you idiot. Geez, a 6 year old can spell better than you, you lazy prick.
Did any of you women-envying failures go to school? You seem borderline retarded.
Lol.
You amuse me. I am a woman. Frankly, I have no fear admitting I hate children, especially babies. Since I would put a baby in a blender face-first, I have no doubt believing that most men have superior parenting skills compared to me. In case you are wondering… No, I am not a fugly 300 pound square dike. I am a pretty petite blond B-cup great ass college student. And I like men. Men that assume they are greater than women, amuse me.
Don’t get me wrong. I would whoop your ass if you were ‘my’ man and wrote that shit your write online, but you could be my pet if you wanted too.
You are naughty.
I like naughty. Hah.
You are too good for these idiots…… :)
When you have a double 10″ pounder rammed in your ass & throat same time, maybe you gonna have to redefine the meaning of pet.
GTFO. Its a man’s site.
B cup ? LMAO. Not even a mouthful.
BTW, 82, no self respecting man would have a cunt like you, except to fuck you and chuck you. And unlike you, we don’t ASS-U-ME, we KNOW we are greater.
You couldn’t whoop any mans ass fucktard, not even your own.
Go kill yourself.
NO one asked you for your stupid opinions, fucktard. This is a man only site. YOUR opinions are only enough for men to lampoon, like the pig that banged your fat ass shit less into the vacuous space between your ears.
no one- male or female should ever walk out of their child’s life regardless of how miserable their partner is.
It’s so funny that you’ve based a whole article on a ficticious film!
Wow, I really hope you never have children- ’specially a girl.
Not that any woman would want men that have a superiority complex.
Or any self-esteem whatsoever… not you, anyway.
And it’s even funnier that you have based your whole life on a fictitious brain.
Blah, blah, misogyny, misogyny, evidence of being emotionally stunted, comments which can’t possible be serious.
Yawn. Nice joke article. Better than Nytol.
You call that a blow job, Magsy ?
If they can’t possibly be serious, why take them to heart?
Broads are so sensitive.
I’m a single woman and I don’t have children.
How old are you? 17?
Hahaha. Guys, have you watched “How I Met Your Mother”? You all should see the episode with the “Not A Father’s Day” jokes… They are hilarious, and it would be so awesome if you guys would start a club like that, it would be SOOO funny!!!
Tits, or GTFO.
Woman suck at raising children? If you check the percentage of men that have walked out on their families then you would be surprised to find most of those WOMAN that were left alone to raise their kids they turned out just FINE and NORMAL.. they come out of US.. so stfu go and get prego and try it out..loser.
Most single mothers feminize their sons. Leave alone the bias and violence they exert on their sons. That’s why mothers should be deprived custody of children.
If the women did their fucking job right and shut the fuck up that wouldn’t happen so much, fuck off she bitch.
You are wrong…my mam stayed at home till me & my brother were old enough to go to school…then like now works her ass off…she used to work early morning just so that she could see us in the evening…get your facts straight before you start saying women are shit at bringing up children! Do u have children! I work with children & know how hard work they are! So shut up you dick head!
Boo the fuck hoo. Your mom should not have had you until she was “READY”. If she was all that hot she would have planned out your childhood. She would have worked to make sure she had a house paid off,a man ready for child instead of falling for the ol pump-n-dump, and made sure she could STAY HOME and work with you the entire time not just until you could go to schoool. Your mother is a irresponsible child who was too shortsighted to plan her life and your life like she should. The only people who have problem with children are lazy idiots like you and her.
i bet your a yankee
Because Americans don’t rule the world, right?
WRONG
Yeah, every mother I’ve known (granted I grew up in a upper middle class, fuck it, upper class by everyone’s standard) was some yuppie piece of shit who didn’t work, got fat, spent ton’s of money on their stupid shit, neglected their kids, and were utterly useless to the family. I practically raised my younger brother because my mom was too busy stuffing her fat face and buying antiques that cost over $10,000 apiece on my dad’s doctor income, WHILE complaining that she never should have married him and that she was only staying together for “the kids”.
Take out the mention of class and you have every mother ever.
You are wrong…my mam stayed at home till me & my brother were old enough to go to school…then like now works her ass off…she used to work early morning just so that she could see us in the evening…get your facts straight before you start saying women are shit at bringing up children! Do u have children! I work with children & know how hard work they are! So shut up you dick head!
Basically, this whole comment was to show us what class you come from. Bravo.
little children under the care of single mothers should be in orphanages. Let some pros do it. without the father, mothers freak with —>little<— children.
Basic english freak you out, you lazy, uneducated retard. Shut up, just because YOUR mother wished she had the guts to abort you, you jealous garbage.
Basic english freak you out, you lazy, uneducated retard. Shut up, just because YOUR mother wished she had the guts to abort you, you jealous garbage.
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The above passes for gibberish and nothing else all the while critical of a man’s comments.
So typically female.
she was on when she wrote this
women are build to raise kids inside them , outside , nurture them with their tits,and to gather food for them.
But sick bitches say women are build to compete against men not for what i just said , men are not build to raise kids at all ,not inside or outside , or anywhere .
Those women that compete against men will get burned!!!!
On a serious note, I don’t think men or women are build to compete against each other, so it’s pretty ironic to see all the women bashing going on here, don’t you agree? And the > sign is also a sign of fierce competitiveness of the author. You just need a to take a short dive in world’s history to conclude MEN tried to compete with women in every possible way, mostly by trying to LIMIT their freedom and possibilities to develop into succesful individuals. Now, if women were so infrerior, they would not have tried to oppress an entire sex (50% of all people) for thousands of years……
But…
You being a male, probably means you don’t get laid enough. Just like the author. I understand, lol.
Ummm…no, she wasn’t. ‘Cept maybe the on the self-pity train.
I do agree that women want babies like they want purses and starbuck’s. Women are fucking retarded when it comes to babies. They just want a baby because it’s cute, like a fucking purse. There is zero logic in women’s reasoning why they want children. All they see is that it is cute like a pair of shoes. Let me tell you how retarded women are, my girlfriend bought a pair of heels based off of how cute they were. Ends up she could not walk in them for more than 10 minutes because they were so uncomfortable. I asked her why she bought them if they were so uncomfortable and she said because they were cute. What kind of stupid shit is that!!?? I told her she was fucking retarded just like every other woman. Women make stupid decisions based off of emotion and not logic. They love more worthless shit than any species ever. I agree with your comment that women should not be able to vote. Since women have been able to vote, the size of government has exploded. It was an actual sientific study that was done. You know why?? Because women need a man to take care of them and the government is that man. Look at all of these tax wasting bullshit programs to take care of worthless women. Women need security and the government is the way to do it. Makes me fucking sick!!!
Yeah, every mother I’ve known (granted I grew up in a upper middle class, fuck it, upper class by everyone’s standard) was some yuppie piece of shit who didn’t work, got fat, spent ton’s of money on their stupid shit, neglected their kids, and were utterly useless to the family. I practically raised my younger brother because my mom was too busy stuffing her fat face and buying antiques that cost over $10,000 apiece on my dad’s doctor income, WHILE complaining that she never should have married him and that she was only staying together for “the kids”.
im sure your just great at raising children, faggot. i bet you were there for the kid 100% of the time making sure mommy did it right. to bad she screwed up so much.
Men like you, or anyone like you for that matter who talks such shit deserve to be treated and spoken to like a baby because they are acting and behaving like babies. You’ve never raised a child before so why are you saying that you, or other men can do a better job.
Noone who swears when writing articles gets taken seriously. People who write like that sound like whiny children with too much time on their hands.
If woman are so crap at everything, then why aren’t you gay because they’re obviously not worthy to you.
Not really true, I raised my brother and I know most of the dad’s in my social circle basically did the same while their wives wasted money and didn’t work.
Me, the fact that I still screw women is because I’m biologically programmed to do so. I enjoy it, and won’t deny myself that. It doesn’t change the fact that women are crap at everything though.
Nicely well said! I want children oneday & know i will be a brilliant mother! I know how hard it is as i work with children! x
You know, I used to hold it against my stepdad for actively demonstrating to me the very point you’re making above, Dick. You add an entertaining, wise-cracking talent as you convey this truth, but-there’s nothing more horrible than abused children, and that’s the evening news. True story: my stepdad used to ‘horseplay’ around w/ me right after he married my mom, I was about 4. Hey, thanks for showing me affection and attention dad! Then he did a couple things I didn’t understand, like hold his hand over my face like he was going to smother me. He did this right w/ my mom watching. My mom did nothing-that was his point. Ofcourse, I came to know he would never actually kill me, so I learned not panic when he did that. It stopped, ‘cus-he found out what he needed to know about the ‘charity case’ /recipient of my child support checks.
The other thing he did while we were out in a cabin cruiser he had just swapped for out on a major river was take the boat all the way down to a nearby dam. He then began discussing w/ my mother if it would be advantageous to throw me into falls. I’m not sure if he realizes to this day that at the age of four, I was indeed aware that they were quibbling for my life (I salute my real old man for keeping them funds coming in, what a life-saver he was)! After he had her glazed over and stunned w/ the possiblity that it could easily be dissed off as accidental-he picked me up and held me over the edge of the boat. She was like “no, wait, wait”.
He used to like to get my mom in hysterics when she was preggers w/my sister too, by driving wild on icy roads. Why did she not trust his ability?
Hell, I learned how to drive on ice by feel from the back seat.
He’s just got an instinct for parenting, that’s all.
“Women fucking suck at raising children. Men can raise children, work full time jobs, maintain hobbies like drinking and bowling, and all while saving time to chase tail. That’s because men are men. We’re better parents and when it comes to living life we’re like octopuses on crack; our tentacles in one hundred different pies.”
You have no concept of how to raise a child if that is how you think.
Not only do I have a young son (read 18months old) I work full time, go to school and have been in the military for the past 8 years. I have plenty of time for my son as well as a personal life and most women do too. So get off your high horse and come back to reality.
the women who raised you boys dont know how to raise kids………yeah i find this site really funny to……….dick wirte such funny stuff………keep posting more stuff dick…..i get a good laugh
Right on
This guy talks shit. I am director and majority shareholder of a company I started myself, with my own finance. I also do the majority of cooking and cleaning at home. I have two children, one a baby who I adore and work from home so I can look after him. The other is at school. They are both boys and I love them. I earn equal money to my partner. This dick called Dick truley is a dick! Some women are money grabbing, shit-for-brain,baby-hating whores. But the majority are not.
my vagina pushed out two. paternal guy is so wrapped up in his own parents that he dont care about me or babies. I truly love the whole nurture thing. so i guess daddy can nurse his baby maker.Cause his mommy thinks hers is all that matters .cock donut love is all good. you know what i mean?
having a baby and raising it cause dad more intersted in the baby maker penis .my vagina pushed it out and i love my baby.
First and foremost: I love the octopus analogy. My friend and I were discussing the other day how we would love to be octopuses. Well, more human-like octopuses, but octopuses nonetheless.
Anyway. I’m wondering. Though most of the articles and comments on this site are written as stereotypes as opposed to generalizations, do the men who post here believe what they say of every woman on Earth?
Furthermore, as a complete side note, I’d like to state that the difference between stereotype and generalization is completely ridiculous, as it’s merely a change from “all” to “most.” And, apparently, generalizations are ok. Go figure.
Wow, that was intresting. A man and a woman should not be having sex if their not going to be life long partners. It takes two to raise a child in the best way, and single mothers and fathers depending on their devotion to leading a good life and safe invironment for their child do great! If your a man and your calling your babies mom a whore then that speeks a great deal about you, why would you sleep with someone like that, unless you just didn’t know, I know from experiance that sometimes it takes years to know the person your with is nothing but a nasty cheater. As a woman, I am the one that carried my child for nine months, I am the one who made sure my son had everything he needs and I would rather die than to be seperated from my son, if you are a good man, then in most cases you would not be in a sticky situation involving costady, you would be married allowing your child the best options for life, not worried about sleeping around or what you want, their are to manny selfish friken people out there
OK. when it comes down to it either a man or women can be a bad perant. just depends on how lazy and selfish they are. i live with my domestic partener whom i have two sons with. when my first born was well…born…his mother just didntknow what to do…she acted out in anger and frustraion and took it out on him becuase she was so over whelmed. when he got a little older and began talking and acting like a child his mother showered him with love. as for our second born, he is always abused. both verbally and physically. he was 3 months premature and had many struggles which he over came by the grace of something…and she wails on him for no real reason. he has bruises and shit on his head all the time and i have to change doctors appts becuase of that. my first born is even learning that my second born is beneath him for he too hits him which is normal for brothers but knowing that it started so early makes me sick…i do all the dirty work yet i have no spine to kick her out because she is incapable and would be like kicking out a 10 year old who doesnt know how to get by…she had one job at 21 for 7 days and got fired because a customer mad her mad…the problem is she puts herself before everyone else…even her babies and now as i try to show her the error of her ways she somehow justifies her actions with an uncontrolable hatred for her son once again she treats her first born nicely at this point im at a loss
Get video proof of her child abuse contact social service and divorce her. In more enlightened times or other parts of this world she would be stoned to death.
Another day of you standing silently by is testament to your uselessness.
“Men don’t ever pull that kind of shit. When a man is upset, he calmly, cooly, and sternly explains himself.”
WHAT A JOKE.
Isn’t it always the guy that beats his wife and kids up out of rage? Yes, women usually get custody over the kids because they can control themselves and don’t punch anything that moves. This “Dick” (quite an appropriate name for him) proves this through all his ‘manly’ swearing and useless deivel which he uses to try and bring us women down. Most of it makes no sense at all anyway, so he can’t really be taken seriously.
You’re right, women can’t live without men. But you men cant live without us women.
Hmm…If I were as chauvinistic as this fine example of maledom I would be scared as hell to let any women’s TEETH anywhere near my “cock”, because there would probably be a decent chance of me losing my ability to be a “penis wielding man”.
If you get my drift.
I love it when people have to resort to sarcasm because they can’t find a legitimate argument.
Very mature.
so if you men are so good at raising children than why in most court cases for custody the mother gets the child…and the only reason you men have the time to do your other “hobbies” is because your never at home when the babie is crying, shitting, throwing up or hungry. you’re only there when its sleeping or happy…if you think its so easy why dont us woman just pack up and leave your dumb ass’s…i know my father couldnt have done it…he beat the shit out of me and if it wasnt for my mother i would have probally been dead…not all woman are the same and if you think so your ass dumb as the woman you talk about.
Hey, Dick, paranoid much?
My God, with all the projecting you do, you should work in a movie theater.
I don’t know why but I find this site to be hilarious whether its real or not–I’m not offended at all. I’m not the only one, right?
This is one time, that I definitely have to agree… at least in my personal situation. I don’t like babies. I don’t like kids. I tolerate them when I have to be around them.
I am childfree and love it that way!!! I REFUSE to have kids.
(I’m not even interested in getting married (even though I’m fat);) Shackin’ is ok. I don’t want/need diamonds. I just wanna have fun! Nope, I’m not a lesbian, either. I’ve dated the same guy for 10 or 11 years (maybe 12, who’s counting?)
My boyfriend’s poor mom wants grandchildren. (OK, go buy some).
My boyfriend knows nothing about children and until recently, he would say “I’d kind of like to have a kid.”
He finally “saw the light” after we were stuck dealing with a kid for several hours at a friend’s house. The best words to ever hear him say: “It is kind of nice to send them back to their parents when you’re tired of them.” (I win!)
His mom has already started harassing her other son’s girlfriend (who’s in her 40’s).
I’ve told his mom “You have grand-snakes. What more could you want?”
Snakes are better than children! I don’t have to send them to school. I don’t have to clothe them. They eat about once every week or two. The poop only as often as they eat (so they are MUCH cleaner!).
Children? Babies? YUCK!!!
(I’ve just pissed off millions of women. Oh well… too bad I can’t piss them off enough to keep them out of amusement parks and quit ramming those god-forsaken baby strollers into the backs of my legs!)
I love and adore babies you piece of fucking scum, lmao you fucking facist piece of shit, women arent all alike, i dont have any pets i know when an animal is an animal and a human is a human.
If i ever fucking saw you i would kick your fucking ass, thats right i would beat the shit out of you and put it on the fucking internet. Your butt ass ugly, and useless what are you doing with your life? promoting hate?..shitbag..you honestly must be gay and im not just saying that either
I’m pretty sure I don’t treat babies the same way I treat my boyfriend when I am angry with him… hmm. You’re argument fails once again Dick Head.
It’s all part of the dark pendulum swing of the force.
I imagine the hundreds of millions of western sluts driven by greed and ambition letting their latchkey sons be raised by TV and violent games.
It’s going to be all too easy to convince them their mothers were soulless pigs and to do what must be done.
Thrice – Backdraft
Die and rot in your grave. And know I had fun killing you.
I mean, hell the first part of her quote was a death threat from a woman and she wants to tell us to stop promoting hate?
And also notice how the girl weaves around all the long responses and arguements and circle to get around to the one insult that was provoked in the first place. She didn’t want to hear a opinion she just wanted to get her judgement of the day early.
Ha ha. No.
Do you think of yourself as having a below-average intelligence? Are you one of those shitheads who believe that you know what is best for everyone else?
You are inferior and you know it – all you want is our attention, you lonely whore. There are easier ways to get male attention:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pFMiSR5hHoc
You guys are so hypocritic
I don’t expect anyone to reply to this, it is just my thoughts on the subject. I can’t believe how unjust this website is and those that contribute to it. I’ve never had any problem with the male gender and always had respect for them and appreciated the respect they had for us, however I see now that there are some out there who have nothing better to do than to than to promote hatred. Stop promoting hate.
You are so right in a way. I HATE babies with a passion AND I dont ever want one. Find a way to make them yourselves guys. You are more than welcome !
i hate hillary clinton’s book it takes a village. it’s the worst example of how children should be raised, imo. of course she’s one of the worst role models of a wife and mother because she’s too busy to be an attentive wife and a good mother.
women don’t only hate babies, they hate their own children. they get divorces and don’t consider their childrens relationships with their fathers as being equally important or even more important than their own mother/child relationship. they jyp their children out of important relationships with their fathers because they are selfish and only consider their own “feelings”. they start to believe their inflated stories of “bad bad husband/father/man”. i’ve seen it happen too many times.
Women are not going to find anything positive abut their gender
Fixed for you kiddo.
LoL! This site is http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com when it seems to me like this website should be named http://www.menhatewomen.com Haha!
This website poses more hate towards women than the competition of men being better than women.
I’m a woman, and any woman who visits this site and gets pissed off from what they read, they should avoid this site. Women are not going to find anything positive abut their gender on here. The men on this site are just anti-female and are getting off by the rants and raves they recieve from the opposite sex.
Listen, WHORE, why don’t you suck my cock and swallow my load, that way, your throat will be welded shut by my ALMIGHTY STICKY MAN JISM, then you will be unable to speak even more shit, and better yet, you will be unable to breath, and therefore, you will DIE, and that would make me a very MANLY HAPPY MANLY PENIS WIELDING MAN.
Fuck you and yours, SKANK.
Paranoia? More like lack of equality in courts. Don’t believe me? See how ‘equal’ they treat Men here in California. It’s a joke.
Alimony? You mean the severance package for a retired whore.
If women want to be equal and respected they can work just as hard as the Men and not expect us to pay them shit.
MENAREBETTERTHANWOMEN
Why would they have so many pro bono lawyers to help men? I don’t know; Paranoia?
Is the existence of the ACLU evidence that prisoner’s don’t have enough rights? Is the existence of NOW evidence that women aren’t treated equal? Is the existence of the Bill O’Reily Show evidence there is a war against Christmas? Even O.J. Simpson, had he been poor, would have been given a lawyer. That doesn’t mean he’s innocent.
I never said that women do all of the running around for the kids in every case. I’m just pointing out that at lot of time, women stop being full-time once they become pregnant, in part because of maternity leave and in part because they are more likely to just take time off to take care of the kid. This results in a lot of lost income for the woman, but it also puts her in a position where she is going to get a more flexible job to take care of the kid’s time needs. This puts more financial pressure on the guy to support the kid. And it often makes it easier, once the relationship is done, to continue the women with the fewer work hours or the smaller salary while the dad continues to support financially without taking so much time off work to run the kid around.
That doesn’t mean that I think all men do nothing and never lift a finger for their kid.
You might be willing to take one situation and see a universal law in it. I’m not so willing to rely on such a small sample of anecdotal evidence to create my opinions.
Utter and total bullshit! Do you listen to yourself talk or do you just fade in and out?
Men are always at a disadvantage when it comes to attempting to get their custody or visitation. Why would they have so many pro bono lawyers and organizations to help Men get the fair treatment in court that they deserve?
It’s also bullshit that the woman does all the commuting and running around for the child. I work my ass off for my child and pay nearly a thousand dollars a month for my one and only child. The mother simply sits on her fat fucking ass, married, collecting checks from me and the government while living under her mothers roof and not paying a dime in rent.
When will you leave this website you feminist trash?
Brain damage is horrible and since you can’t help that you were born damaged you can simply end it all now.
Joint custody is custody. It’s a major pain-for the kids-to split there time equally with both parents. It’s just natural for them to spend the school week with one parent and the weekends with the other. And it’s not true that “women get custody no matter what.” A lot of time women get custody because they’re the ones who took the flex-time or the part-time or the telecommuting job after the kid was born to take care of it. A lot of time dad doesn’t want to be the full-time parent or Mr. Mom. I’ve worked in a courthouse. The judges there-the vast majority of whom were men, btw, (men judges outnumber women judges) really put the kid’s interest at heart in custody proceedings when a case unfortunately couldn’t be settled amicably between the parties. Even family lawyers when kids are involved put the kid’s best interest at heart, not necessarily their clients.
And even if dads don’t get primary custody that doesn’t mean that they have an excuse to stop seeing the kids. And just because a kid is pissed off at dad that doesn’t give dad the right to blow them off either. All teens are pissed at their parents. Dad’s a grown-up. So stop acting like mom’s “turning kids against” dad is an excuse for dad to stop being a part of the kid’s life. Stop playing the victim. Dad is the best possible person to conteract any slander on mom’s part, and Dad isn’t going to do that when he doesn’t see the kids.
Hilary and Skyler. Why does that sound like the characters in a really bad saturday night live skit that talks about soccer moms and their kids, madison, chelsea and madison.
The audience follows these two moms as they careen about suburbia, clueless as to what really makes things work and taking for granted everything, even each other.
Oh what a life. A mcmansion, debt, 2 new cars, tuition, sorority fees, woo woo. I can’t wait, sign me up.
Hoo fucking Rah!!
Die and rot in your grave. And know I had fun killing you.
Hillary and Sklyer you need to live in the real world. Most men don’t abandon their children. As far as wives and girlfriends it happens. Women think because they get their ass dumped, the guys bailing on the kids to. Not true. He’s opting to leave a bitch.
No man should stay in a relationship just because he has a child with a woman. But that’s your genders trump card. You have a baby then think he’s indebted to you forever. Wrong.
No, most men don’t abandon their children. Some men do bail out then never see or financially support their kids again. Those cases are in the minority. Do you want to know why many men aren’t as involved as they should be?
The vast majority of the time women get custody no matter what. Joint custody is not custody. It means dad babysits on the weekend while mommy whores around. Great. I can’t blame many dads for taking a pass on that one. It’s called being used. To make things worse women turn children on their fathers. Everyone know this. In fact a recent poll of women revealed over 70% of women said they had done so. After moms done many brats don’t want to see dad. That’s why he’s not there.
When you feel like getting owned again please reply.
Whoa-ho-ho, some little bitch has a little girly-girl attitude! Oh, wait, this is our site and you are the one who is trespassing on it, spamming it up, and apparently not forgoing the temptation to flaunt your gender on it.
Surprisingly, we don’t seem to find you likeable on a site where men will be judged as men and women will be judged as men – true equality. And we can’t see your toenails, so I suppose your natural… putting lead paint and chemical powder on your body advantage is negated.
Heh, and strippers complain when they get a volcanic explosion of acne. The problem is somewhere between your disease trap and the fact that you can’t leave the house without slathering yourself up in untested ‘animal-safe’ compounds.
I don’t know, I would go without them entirely if I were so worried about the environment. But then, I’m not a dipshit.
M.I.L.F’s. Who cares about’em unless it’s a quick fuck (damaged goods)?
- Sgt. Reyes
Well, I suppose they left when women married the government.
You do realise how hipocritical your been, don’t you? I can’t argue with your statistics, and I do believe men need a decent male role model to know how to be a man. But your here bashing all these single mothers. Don’t you ever wonder where all the fathers of these kids are? The mother’s there, you say she’s doing a crap job, but she’s there. The men have absolutely no excuse for not being as much a part of their child’s life as the mother. I dare you to give me an excuse. Maybe we wouldn’t see the stats if more men would stand up and do their job, simply put. These stats reveal men’s failures, not womens.
I simply made a statement regarding your post about single mothers.
It was your choice to reply. If you don’t want yet another debate about single mothers, then don’t reply. Simple as that.
Here’s a tip to not bring up another discussion, don’t reply to this.
Apparently, the topic in discussion is single mothers. Stop red herring. No one really gives a fuck about what you feel or think for the matter. Complain? How are the facts compiled with evidence complaints? Lmfao, moron.
Stop complaining on how single mothers are awful, what about the men that abandon their children and girlfriends/wives?
If women hated babies we wouldn’t make them and go through the pain of childbirth.
Imagine swallowing a watermelon for 30 hours, that’s what women go through, if we hated babies then we wouldn’t have them, simple as that.
By the way, I love babies they are adorable, my cousin has a 2 year old son and he is precious.
Oh, I see. Wolfe sounds more rational than Dick from your explination. So I guess that it is Dick that I am talking about then.
Dick is the owner of this site while Wolfe is just an old respected member of the MABTW community. Wolfe also has a site at wolfemusings (go google it) which encourages women to enter and participate in discourse.
Ok, I know that this might sound a bit stupid, but I didn’t catch on. Dick and Wolfe are different people? Explain please.
Are you referring to Wolfe or Dick here?
And I agree, some of the topics are over the top.
Well, even you have to admit that the whole “women’s viganas might be causing global warming” thing is far fetched, as well as many of his other topics he talks about. Although, he does seem nice and rational in his posts to other people, and SOME of his topics are ok. There is really no “evidence”, most are just far fetched theories. If you don’t think that they are far fetched theories, then I will show you examples, but it will take a while to explain, so unless you want them, I dont feel like typing that much unless necessary.
Wolfe takes it too far??
Are we talking about the same guy here because I have a ton of respect for Wolfe.
No. I don’t know. I just started getting on this website, and I am starting to see why alot of people are on this website. Although I think that Wolfe takes it too far, my opinion is changing.
So what is your stance? Sitting on the fence?
Ok, I am a woman, and I do not think that men are equal to women, nor do I think that men are better, or that women are better. I am young (13). I do not know, and for now, that works for me. I have heard both sides of the story, and both sides hold a very good argument. Either way, it does’t matter to me, because A) I choose to make my goals what I think that I CAN do, not what my gender can or can’t do. and B) My primary focus right now is school, SATs, and getting into a good college so I can go to Med. school and become a Neuro surgeon. If men and women are equal then great, wow, amazing (sarcasm), and if men ARE better, then I guess I will just be the exception, or the one that suceeds when the odds are againsed them. By the way, I LOVE other peoples babies, I certianly don’t want to have my own, but how could you not love a fresh life, full of opportunity and iniconce, and you can’t froget those tiny hands that wrap around your finger with more strength than you thought possible!
Mabey I am a woman, mabey I agree that I need a man in order to keep going. It’s true, I don’t like babies. But that doesn’t mean no women like babies. I do believe that men are better to women, but that don’t mean were a bunch of s*** bags. It is very rude of you to say something that you can’t be true about. Some women act very differently from others. Some love children, some hate ‘em. Sometimez they don’t even want ‘em, but that don’t mean that you can say anything nasty about us cuz that aint counting ev1. So i dissagree with you and agree. Oh, and has your mother ever washed your mouth with the soap? You deserve it.
I fucking love Metallica.
Funny how there is an increase in single fathers? The way in which you devalue a man and fatherhood is surprising. But then again, you’re a woman and therefore, will be victim to the laws of women. Law number 1: No matter how low you set the bar for women, they will inevitably fall lower.
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (Source: Center for Disease Control)
80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes (Source: Criminal Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26, 1978.)
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (Source: National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.)
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes (Source: Rainbows for all Gods Children.)
70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988)
85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home (Source: Fulton Co. Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. of Corrections 1992)
Another extract: Here is yet another new study which confirms the importance of fathers in children’s lives. In the December 1, 1998 issue of The Wall Street Journal, Maggie Gallagher’s article Fatherless Boys Grow Up Into Dangerous Men reports on a study by the University of California’s Cynthia Harper and Princeton’s Sara McLanahan.
Using the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth database, the records of more than 6,400 boys were studied over a period of approximately 20 years of their development. According to the Wall Street Journal story, the study
…controlled for family background variables such as mother’s educational level, race, family income and number of siblings, as well as neighborhood variables like the proportion of female-headed families in the neighborhood, unemployment rates, median income and even cognitive ability…. Boys raised outside of intact marriages are, on average, more than twice as likely as other boys to end up jailed, even after controlling for other demographic factors. Each year spent without a dad in the home increases the odds of future incarceration by about five percent.
The study also confirmed the findings of other researchers: Boys living with just their single fathers do not exhibit this increased rate of criminal behavior
a man could never raise a child. they’re too busy running away from responsibility, making children & never supporting them. that’s not us, thats a man.
Funny how you spew out all that bullshit. Single dads raise children much better than single mums. This is a proven fact as the crimininality rate of children under single dads is WAY lower than those raised by single mums.
The reason men can still have hobbies and fuck every thing in sight while still being a “good” parent is because no one expects a lot out of dads’. They are the ones that take off on their kids. They are the reason why their young daughters are sleeping around and why their sons will never feel they are good enough and turn out like.. well you. Single moms are expected to be both mom, dad & until they are 8 santa claus. Single dad’s are not expected to be more than just a dad. The good ones, the one’s worth anyone’s respect are the one’s who desire to be everything to their kids and don’t care about when they will get laid next.
Typical feminist drivel. Why talk to it?
-Strength and Honor-
Notice how the fembot goes into Momma Murdering Mode.
When they don’t like the outcome they seek to kill it.
Women have no brains, no compassion, no sense.
Women suck as humans
She floated up from the bottom of the barrel…clearly a female of low desirability and quality. She’ll be a fatty too, and probably a single mother on welfare.
Hahahahahha. Fuck you, dumb whore. The superior gender is engaging in discourse. Why dont you fuck away? You think we will *gasps* change ? You have just proven every fucking thing that Dick has said on this site. Well done, bitch.
No wonder all your mothers wished they aborted you.
Is Dick still not turning over his wasteful, pathetic existence over to the Lord?
Sad, what a sad, ugly, dumbo. Does he still smell and fantasize about fucking his sister?
Weird prick should be locked up.
….*punches Himmler*
No. NO. HELL NO. There SHOULD be LESS women like her. No, none!! She is a plague, a plague amongst plagues actually. She should be hung, drawn and quartered.
Dont encourage her!
That would be “fewer” not LESS, stupid, uneducated PRICK.
I see you insecure Nazis are continuing your anti-female drivel. What don’t you ugly sacks of shit do the best thing for the world and drive an ax through your worthless fathers’ skulls? What did those abusive pieces of shit DO to you as children, anyways? LOL
Funny thing about this article is that i have read some quotes from famous ancient sages/philosophers who say the same thing about how women actually dont love the man they marry or children they give birth to. The Buddha himself said that a woman cant become enlightened unless she transforms into a man.
Well done Dick you have exposed a very higher truth.
You can find these articles if you follow this link: http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/preview.html#mfpsych
Aww…he’s spineless because he insulted you on a male site.
There has never been any oppression other than the oppression women brought on themselves because of the limited females brain.. Female you are a retard and I agree with Necro that you should be drawn and quartered.
have you ever drawn and quartered a woman Billy? or do you just go round saying someone should do this? but you have no backbone and couldn’t actually do this yourself
do you even know what it is spineless bully?
A national organisation of men should be set up wtih Dick as President. The patriachy must not fall!
You are correct that it is ignorant to hold such an opinion when it’s obviously factual and therefore it shouldn’t be considered an opinion.
women hate the truth
You’re probably a fatass and the unfortunate occurance of you having a man in your life is what makes you live. You women would be nowhere at all without a man in your life. And how do you show gratitude? By insulting him for being in your life.
So YOU made a bad choice. Men are better than women.
Women suck as people.
In the end dalsgaard it takes violence or memorable actions in meat space to make the powerful quake in their golden boots and shit golden eggs you can chuck at their thick fucking skulls.
Not fucking websites or papers or brochures.
This site is good for recruiting and not another god damned thing.
All with power fear to lose it and won’t without blood.
The opinion that you have the right to speak without getting stoned is preposterous.
The opinion that one sex of the human species is inferior to the other is ignorant.
Excellent post man. Yes, this site is here to…in a way.. create awareness. One day, men of the future will bow down on their knees and thank Dick for what he has done. God bless you, great man of mans. I dont care how little a difference it is making Fem. People ARE getting more aware. Men ARE rising. The age of women will pass faster than it has even begun. We will triumph.
“Cheating is just like getting pregnant it is 100% a woman’s fault 100% of the time”
-Dick Masterson
Personally, I fail to see how carrying 1 species along for it’s own good is opression. California Condors are kept only in certain areas, are protected by law, and bred all for their own good. Is that oppression?
Don’t answer that, it’s a rhetorical question.
All female oppression is the fault of the woman. Ask any woman in an abusive relationship and you can see that it was her fault.
Billy – You are just a complete ass and hopefully one day you can wake up and see that oppression is not always brought on by ourselves. But sometimes it’s brought on by the much stronger men that are unfortunately in our lives.
Wow
There has never been any oppression other than the oppression women brought on themselves because of the limited females brain.. Female you are a retard and I agree with Necro that you should be drawn and quartered.
Read more here
I think people are already becoming aware if it. I’m doing some study at the moment and I came across a couple of recently published books that may interest some.
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-047001573X.html
http://www.ubcpress.ca/search/title_book.asp?BookID=2695
Female, just piling bullshit upon same layered by texture, tone and odour a point does not make.
- a1 ozgur can – 84 shots (original)
Did you know that when Pythagorus opened his second university in 529BC that women were also able to enroll? There was no discrimation on the basis of gender or race or financial means or religion. It was truly egalitarian, apparently. Pity then that the standards set by visionaries such as Pythagorus did not continue to be the norm. In England, until the 1950s, a woman had no legal rights over herself, her property or her money. Men, by law, owned their family and all material possessions. A husband could even forcibly restrain his wife from leaving. If she did escape, he could use the law to have her imprisoned. Aside from premeditated murder, the law forced women and children to accept whatever behaviour and terms the man dictated, including beatings. In “Wife Torture in England” written by Francis Power Cobbe in 1878, she revalaed the horrific domestic violence occurring at the time that were apparently quite commonplace.
Do you wish to repeal todays laws back to this sorry state of affairs?
So why do men beat women? Are you saying that is it simply your right by virtue of your biology?
….*punches Himmler*
No. NO. HELL NO. There SHOULD be LESS women like her. No, none!! She is a plague, a plague amongst plagues actually. She should be hung, drawn and quartered.
Dont encourage her!
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
And this is where you are going to be wrong. Sometimes you have to call for desperate measures in order to have people recognize problems. When America engaged in the Iraq war, our danish prime minister was on his tiptoes trying to help America in the war, even though there were several minorities throughout the country suggesting another way to dissolve the crisis.
The problem is, that peoples meanings got ignored. Noone even took a second glance at the possible dangers ahead.
Then, as our prime minister left the press conference, someone threw a bucket of red paint over him screaming at the top of his lungs: “Anders Fogh, you got blood on your hands!”.
Now you may say what you want about the people humiliating our minister in that matter. But nonetheless, it spawned country-wide debate on the subject, and it created awareness. People started asking questions like never before.
People out there HAVE tried to be diplomatic. “Why does the head of our gender equality orginization have to be a woman?”. “Why is there only 3 male members, and 19 female members?”. These questions just does’nt sink in! They have no impact! Even though people KNOW that these are important questions, noone tells their friend about them.
THIS is a site that people will hear about. This is a movement that will increase in size, Dick is going to recieve a huge bill monthly because of all the men that will slowly join his movement because they recognize the subtle points in the comments and articles.
And at some point, it will get recognized. The question will come up in the media, wether it be “What’s wrong with these people?” or “These things are worth looking into” – we have awareness. And that’s what is more or less going to happen.
Sure, I get it, but that is because I’ve spent ample time engaged in arguments and discussions here. Many people (women especially) wont do that though, they will instead read one or two of Dick’s posts, then maybe some of the comments, which may turn out to be abusive ones rather than informative, then they’ll leave in disgust, convinced that men are more %^&* in the head than they had ever imagined.
Now, you can think that this site creates awareness all you want, I tend to think it just creates opposition and hostility. You wont get people on side by being abusive, it doesnt work that way. Take Billy and sots for instance, it is entirely clear that they have no interest in raising awareness or getting people to have sympathy for the male cause, they’re only interested in feeling sorry for themselves and taking that out on any and all of the female sex.
That being said, i still do think that men are better than women. I think we’re a lot smarter, a lot more logical, and definetly better at reasoning. We are stronger, and more intelligent. In fact, i could’nt even imagine losing an argument with a woman.
The problem is though, that i can’t say this. I can’t state that i have these oppinions publicly. That is freedom of speech.
We’re not talking individual situations for fucks sake. We’re talking crowds, the population in general.
In order for them to take these problems seriously, and really put them into consideration we need a global change of heart on these topics. And HOW would you accomplish that?
Sure, if I had problems in the said relation to my goddamn doctor, i may or may not be able to convince him that my wife beat me. And there would be differences between the scenarios, and quite frankly, i can also agree that a professional doctor should behave in the manner you presented.
This is completely hypothetical, what I’m trying to show you is a clear way how to alter the common mans belief in society and gender as we know it. Why is that necessary? Because as it is now, men that are beaten, recieves scratches, or are victims to either physical or psychological abuse would’nt even visit the doctor in the first place – in fear of ridicule.
In order to even solve this problem, and as you can imagine – it is a problem, we have to create awareness. Awareness about the problems associated with the male gender in general. The extremely high suicidal numbers, the fathers that can’t see their children and still pay support, the misandryginist tendency in society, freedom of speech (This site almost got sued, remember?), false rape claims, and a hell lot of other important subjects. All of these topics, you’ll find in someway represented on this site.
Now here’s the point i was leading you to: In order to create awareness about these problems, you have to get attention. If this website was written in a clean way saying “We respect women, but we think that THIS thing does’nt work”, it would’nt get half the publicity the website is given at this moment. That is why this website is important to me. That is definetly why I support it.
And I’m pretty sure everyone else agrees on this matter. People don’t beat their wives. They don’t disrespect women, and they definetly do NOT hate them as much as they say they do in here. But this is how you create said awareness. By reinforcing the stereotype that the media has put on to us. By being what people don’t want us to be, they’ll see in some way or another that there is a problem. Because there ARE some clever people out there, that CAN read between the lines.
I hope you get it.
It took a whole lot of words to make one point though.
I just don’t see a point in her being her or there.
Amazingly I think she has a point.
I thought my answer was fairly practical and realistic, but fine.
If you reported a scratched arm or face, or whatever, to a doctor and said that you received the injuries from your wife, then I’m sure the doctor would raise an eyebrow and treat the wound, advising you if it looked infected and how you should look after it, and possibly tell you if you needed stitches or recommend a plastic surgeon.
If the doctor isn’t in a rush or practices in a holistic, rather than purely pragmatic manner, then he or she may ask you if your wife accidently scratched you. If you decide to reveal that it was deliberate, then the doctor may ask more questions trying to ascertain whether this is a regular thing, whether you have any other injuries, whether your wife has any injuries that should be treated, whether you have children, whether they may be at risk of harm, etc. These questions are designed to ellicit information on what is happening so that people are protected. From themselves, if necessary. Not so people can be punished or blamed, but protected. There is a difference. But if men wont admit that they need help or assistance or even protection, then of course it wont be able to be forthcoming. Next the doctor may ask you if your wife has a mental illness or a history of MI in her family or is on a drug rehabilitation program, or whether you are on the latter. If your answer to all these questions was “no” then depending on your demeanour, the doctor might light-heartedly ask you, “so what did you do to deserve this?” while possibly suspecting that you receieved the injuries after your wife found out you were involved with another woman.
If the situation was reversed and your wife visited the doctor, then I’m fairly certain that a similiar scenerio would play out but with more information offered to the woman on women’s refuges, and perhaps without the question, “so what did you do to deserve this?”
The slightly different interactions do reflect cultural assumptions that as women are physically weaker than men, that women cannot seriously hurt men and, that if a woman does injure a man, then he must have provoked her, most likely by having an affair. However, the average professional is going to know that it is bullshit that women cannot inflict serious injuries AND that physial violence enacted by anyone, male or female, is not indicative of a normal relationship spat, but is indicative of either, 1. cultural context – those raised in more violent neighbourhoods are raised in a tougher manner and this is somewhat of a cultural norm or 2. drugs or alcohol is involved or 3. psychological illness is involved. The professional would take all the information from your story into account to ascertain which of these applied and act accordingly, informing you of relevant resource services and options in your area (maybe a men’s support group or the number of a social worker). The professional who does not do any of these things is not upholding their code of ethics and you should discontinue seeking treatment from that particular doctor.
Seriously, that WAS the worst load of crap. All you did was point out your own ideologies as to how the world SHOULD work. This has nothing to do with how everything should work in fucking Utopia.
And i know that we have a goddamn problem in this regard. Don’t try to avoid my question because you’re afraid I will shoot you down. I wont. In fact I was almost ready to applaud your answer.
I agree. That was a load of crap. Try again Female.
That seemed quite a pointless bunch of rubbish to me. In regards to his question.
Deliberate scratching is feral behaviour and should be documented. I think the Drs attitude would and should foremost be professional and focussed on treating the wound for any infection or other, secondly they may suggest giving you a referral for a psychiatrist for your wife or yourself to deal with the issues influencing the violence.
I would think men should care more about their wife’s behaviour than what a Doctor may think of his situation. I would recommend men do decide to report such injuries, however superficial, to a Doctor and then to ask for a referral for a psychiatrist (if the doctor doesn’t offer one) while they are there.
Only where there is a mass pile of evidence of a social problem, will a professional community begin to discuss it, research it, bring it to the attention of their governing body who will then bring it to the attention of the authorities, public health officials and the media. So if this hasn’t happened yet, then either men are not reporting abuse by their partners, abuse by females is not as widespread or high as you think it is or doctors are seeing high rates of this but are not taking the issue seriously.
Actually, I took Anatomy class; as for House, merely the theme song catches my interest. And both my parents are doctors with twelve years of medical schooling after college – I’m not about to make assumptions. *smiles*
Like I said, genders may be different, but overall they are human. This website generalizes so much that I expected you’d realize that and list your own faults alongside womens’. This is the kind of ignorance that kills innocent people – of any gender, by any gender. I’m very surprised. This is a failure because you’ve failed you mention that there are masses upon masses of exceptions. You’ve lost my respect, men of earth. I thought you were cool.
Truth is, sex does not interest me. Babies do not interest me. That’s who I am. It’s not hate – it’s discord. I’ve lost my ‘appetite.’. And I’ve never yet mentioned my real gender, so does that really matter? I go trap shooting with my father once a week. I also hug each of my parents every night I can. I scuba dive every summer – and when my gear is in the shop, I snorkel without the air tube because it gets in my way, then dive thirty feet to poke a starfish. Then again, I also love chocolate. Which of the following entities can accomplish all of these things?
A) Woman
B) Man
C) Human
Yep yep. Exactly.
With respect to male/female violence, I think at the end of the day violence is violence regardless of what gender is involved.
A woman hitting a man is not any more acceptable than the other way around, the only difference I guess would be the extent of injuries inflicted… a man hitting a woman is more likely to cause more damage since men are physically stronger than women. However that doesn’t mean that women don’t initiate violence, nor does it mean that their actions are any less damaging in a psychological and emotional sense.
Generally, there is no excuse for the use of violence especially within what is supposed to be a loving relationship. If you resort to using fists rather than having an adult conversation with your partner you shouldn’t be in a relationship with them.
Your not that stupid, i think you’re beginning to get it. The allegations are just that – allegations. If i had a wife, and i payed the doctor a vist – showed him my scratchmarks – and told him that my wife abused me (Jesus christ), what do you think his reaction would be?
Reverse the situation, and say my WIFE visited the doctor.
Wich is excactly my point. The problem is that these things happen and go literaly unnoticed for several reasons, and it’s happening a hell lot more than the general public will even acknowledge.
Now i have another question for you. Do you honestly think that the men on this site beats their wifes and girlfriends regularly?
Enough with the assumptions for now. The fact of the matter is, that these things – and that includes literally every topic on this site – needs more awareness. As of now, we can’t even begin advocating a solution to a problem, because noone knows that there IS a problem.
I’ve seen plenty of sites out there get shot down, even though they made points subtle. A man published a resarch recently that showed, that men are more Intelligent than women, and because of this – he got so hammered down by the media that he got fired as a result. Mysandri is literally everywhere, it’s gotten so widespread that we men have to excuse ourself just because we’re MEN. We can’t be straight forward, we can’t be weak either, we have to show feelings – but we should’nt be gay either. But most of all: We can NOT show any agression, or the slightest note of fear or instinct.
What role does this website, or the other websites like this, play in this ridiculous act you think?
My example was based on a paragraph from the first link you provided, namely.
My point was that general female aggression is not as serious as male aggression in any of it’s forms. But yes, I do understand that there is little difference between a woman and a man when a weapon is used in an assault.
I also concede that unreporting of female spousal abuse would exist, as well as distortion of statistics by people with an agenda. However, the second link you provided above says that women initiate violence in 50% of cases, this means the sexes are equal, however the stats don’t tell us whether “initiation” of violence occurs after a verbal threat against one’s life has been made. My point is that self-defense is a major factor in violence, as you yourself suggest by saying it must be okay for men to return hit a woman.
Here are some actual statistics from a table out of a paper I have in front of me.
Percentage of Incidence of Partner to Partner Violence among Families at Melbourne and Canberra Registries.
Allegations Against: Melb males – 47, Melb Females – 9.3
DVO’s Against: Melb Males – 40, Canberra Males – 33, Melb Females – 7.3, Canberra Females – 7.
Do these numbers reflect reality accurately or are there more incidences of female violence going unreported than we know of?
Your solution to this is that men should fight back. All that is going to do is end up raising the numbers of allegations against men, which will then see more money given to women’s shelters etc and continue to hide any problem men experience. What you should be advocating for is for men to get over any sense of shame at being battered by a women and report such crimes. And male police etc involved in documenting such cases should also perhaps be educated not to engage in shaming tactics against men who come forward.
Reference
Brown, T, Frederico, M., Hewitt, L and Sheehan, R. (2000) Revealing the existence of child abuse in the context of marital breakdown and custody and access disputes, Child Abuse and Neglect, Vol 24, No. 6, pp 849 – 859,.
This paper also sheds much light on the Family Court and number of child abuse cases, false and real, involved in marital breakdown. It was groundbreaking research, but that is another discussion.
Are you fucking retarded? Can you even read?
The studies show that in most cases, the woman is the agressor – wich means that the men are acting in self-defense. This should, by any means, JUSTIFY the blow to the nose – or the push. And these kind of things happen more often than not, i can guarantee you that.
This does’nt have shit to do with ‘a plate hitting the wall, nowhere near the husband’, which is a completely idiotic assumption if you even took the time to read reports on the topic, and use your common sense.
Read this:
http://www.dadsnow.org/essay/BROTT1.HTM
Pay special attention to this report, because everything stated in there is certainly more logical and reasonable than your flawed line of thought. The 40% statistic pretty much holds through the whole scenario, and the most obvious of these is that 40% of murder-victims in these relationships are male.
Now take into account that men are far less likely to report domestic violence than women, and you have a pretty even playfield all around. But the media and feminist sympathizers blow this shit so far out of proportion, that women are getting continualy victimized – even when they are not the victims.
You better start believing it. There’s something seriously wrong. Do you think men are pissed off by feminists just for the fun of it? Do you really think we have no right to be angry? My generation literally grew up to adulthood FALSELY believing men to be sick bastards all the way through. And through all this time, it’s beginning to show that these statistics have in fact been faked and twisted up since the beginning of the nineties.
But all we can really hold on to in this world, is our own experiences on this matter. And i can tell you that because I had the same ‘women-are-victims’ line of thought as everyone else in our population, I have been beat by women too. No, it was’nt serious, and no, i did’nt start crying like a baby. But I have certainly been hit a LOT more times, than I have hit back. And when i hit back, it’s only in self-defence.
People should come to their goddamn sences.
I’m tired of this site being infested with braindead cunts.
Someone needs to start a site even more hardcore than this.
Of course throwing a plate at the wall nowhere near where the man is standing is so much more violent than a man throwing his fist into a woman’s eye, disengaging the retina, breaking her nose and busting her lip, before jumping up and down on her and breaking her ribs and pelvis.
Silly me.
You are all so right.
What you are comparing is ridiculous. Yes, women get upset and release their frustration sometimes aggressively by throwing an object or lightly slapping a guy on the arm but that is a world apart from men battering women and to compare them as if they are the same thing is wrong and completely insensitive and inappropriate. And stupid. So you won’t get any respect or sympathy from me if you continue to engage in this kind of pathetic comparison.
If your girlfriend or wife is prone to temper tantrums and taking her frustration aggressively out on you (ie displacing her anger at her coworkers at you) then yes, you should establish boundaries to let her know that it isn’t appropriate and you won’t like it when she does so, nor put up with it. If however, you are suggesting that men should fight this sort of behaviour from a woman by responding to her with a fist to her mouth, then you have a serious problem.
If you fucking women really want some equal rights around here, you’d better stop whining. If you want the same rights – then start proving that you can really live up to it.
Because there’s a lot of men around, and they have been bitchslapped around for far too long. Either you start giving some respect – or eventually – they WILL take matters into their own fucking hands. And it won’t be pretty.
Oh, i see the debate is on here too. You want your fucking proof “Female”? Here you go:
[Copy/Paste]Excactly. Violence needs to come to a stop, and we need more focus on the whole subject. Women are in fact more violent than men.
http://www.fathers.ca/women_are_more_violent.htm
This is a fact from a scientific study. While men tend to do more damage than women, it’s not much. And in many cases, the women are the agressors.
The only solution to this problem, is for women to get out of their victim-roles in society.
So true. Have you got Faithless’s Renaissence 3 CD set? I can’t live without it.
Please also state your references to back up your claim that it is a known fact that women abuse twice as often as men for that is absolutely ridiculous and if I get a spare three hours I am going to hit you with an avalanche of citations to show the exact opposite.
Wake up Billy. According to the Children’s Defense Fund, 2001a, “every day in the US, 7,942 children are reported abused or neglected.” So if that many children are being affected by negligent or abusive people, how many women do you think are also being abused? None? Yeah, you probably do think zero and even if I or someone else was to provide you with evidence that 35,000 women in the US were reported battered or sought refuge in a women’s shelter, no doubt you would simply grin and feel all superior about it. How intelligent.
Kezrek you’re braindead.
Another victim of wimmens studies. They have been taught that there is no difference in genders. But then holding fast to
the chivlarous notion that men shouldn’t hit a woman. Why because men are stronger than women. Face it, men are better than women.
Some man stabs a baby everyday in this country? What a crock of shit.
The facts show that Mothers abuse children twice as often as anyone else. It more like everyday some Mother harms her children.
Women are not human for they are like fleshbots with no reasoning skills.
Dr Phil much?
No House or Trance is too much.
^ pure horseshit.
Too much House I think.
-Dick
It’s not women – it’s humans. Anyone who enforces their old views on the next generation is a fucking stubborn pig-faced backwards-thinking hopeless waste of carbon and time. Men do all these things too. There is an exception to every single opinion, and if that’s not realized, then human beings will never be great.
You’ve all had bad experiences, bad memories, bad connections, and bad dealings with someone and you have allowed a single cancerous cell of prejudice to spread throughout your body like a diseased lymphatic system. You are weak because of your hate. The opposite of love is not hate. It is discord.
Lots of women do stupid things. Lots of men do stupid things. Every day in this country a man stabs a baby. It’s happened twice today in my state. But alongside that, a teenaged girl didn’t stop at a stop sign and died in a ditch.
Anyone who holds spite for stupid, insignificant reasons has no life, and I really hope you don’t continue your views to the next generation. Humans shouldn’t be two genders. Humans should be HUMANS. If you can’t ignore things that disgust you, you will not improve yourself and thus you will be trapped in your opinonated, closed-minded pit for the rest of your life.
I’m human. Not a gender. My math teacher gave a presentation to our school all about genders. One phrase stated: “There are as many genders as there are people in this world.”
Your little rants up on this website are only talking about a very empty word. All it talks about are humans who hold XX alleles. And if you generalize that much, and are that inconsiderate, your brain is likely as powerful as a walnut. Good day, my fellow humans, and good luck.
Indeed they are.
- paul oakenfold – swordfish – 002 – the word
Makes complete sense.
Stats also show that many rapist have Mothers who were prositutes.
That never works because women never fucking listen. So let them embarass themselves.
shut up.
It’s true women hate babies, I’m a woman and I hate babies.
gwallan, how dare you introduce statistics that dispute joanna’s emotional outburst in defense of women using children like property and doing whatever the hell they want with them!!
No in seriousness, I knew of all those stats except the rape part. But if you know rape is a crime of anger not of high testosterone/savage sociobiology, then it makes perfect sense that the most likely rapist would have been doomed to be raised by some single cunt who chased his father away.
@joanna
The reality doesn’t back you up here. sots was close.
Divorce and Fatherhood Statistics
Some highlights
Interestingly, children in households where the absent father is highly and appropriately respected and honored by the mother and children (typically where the mother was widowed) do not suffer these same problems.
Even dead men are manly, I guess.
-wolfe
Men owe a great deal to women and should pay them great deference and reverence.
Were it not for women, we’d drown in money.
I know statistics, literacy, or reality aren’t of high concern for the Goddess species, but those do show that single mother households are 19? times more likely to have the child go to prison than single father households.
So unless a “better” life is watching your whore mother suck cock for drugs and groceries in a ghetto or trailer park, you fail it.
you are so wrong about this. if you don’t change your mind, then at least you should know that a single woman can raise a child better than 10 men can.
“If you’re happy being a tomboy then go for it. Be the best you can at what you want to be.”
And if your real lucky, you may be able to grow some balls and behave like a real human.
… forget feminism and believe that your science teacher is wrong and right in that order(I bet it’s a woman).
Don’t let feminists tell you what you should be. Do what is right for YOU. If you’re happy being a tomboy then go for it. Be the best you can at what you want to be. Don’t worry about what others say. They are only concerned with forcing you to be what they want.
The important thing is that in whatever YOU choose to do that YOU do it as well, and as honestly, as YOU can.
no im not saying that girls are bad , its just because im a tomboy and i just cant stand their bitchyness , & their saying : “omg i broke a nail!” or “omg my hair is ruined!” at school im always like “get over it”… i go to an all girls school & i only have 2 friends who are also tomboys…
but my science teacher said that girls are smarter then guys & they live longer! thats something im proud about Lol
Do post some links to the incensed cows. It ought to be a barrel of laughs.
aparently all the feminists sites have to talk about is this awseme website.
… , if that is your real name, there is nothing wrong with being a girl. (assuming you really are one, and not just being a troll).
Yes, men are better than women. No, that doesn’t mean that women are bad. Strive to be the best human being that you can be. Know your limitations (anyone have a link to that video?). Recognize your strengths.
Too much self-esteem is a horrible and dangerous affliction for a woman, but too little is almost as bad. (Both are bad for men as well, but the impact is quite different).
You appear to suffer from the latter. I would guess this is because you don’t have an active father in your life (but who knows).
Like many women, you hate babies, but at least you are honest about this.
My advice is get as much education as you are willing and able to get (and afford). Work hard, and try and do something for the community in which you live. No, I’m not preaching socialism — this should be voluntary — but, for example, visit the elderly in a nursing home. Or volunteer in a soup kitchen. Don’t do so to puff up a resume, but rather to enrich your life.
Even if you are an avowed atheist, you will find there is more in the heavens and earth than is dreamt of in thy philosophy, Horatia aka ‘…’ .
-wolfe
While this post almost put me to sleep.
I have to answer this portion. Women will never wake up to the said problems because women are only concerned with themselves.
Men are genuinely concerned with women and children and women exploit this to the fullest.
Men will just have to put a stop to the nonsense one way or another.
You should never beat a women, but there should be a place you can drop her off to have it done.
Ellipsis with issues warning!
-Big Al
i wish i was a guy…
being a girl sucks…
y did i have 2 b a girl! im not gonna have kids anyway. gross. i absolutley hate babies!!!
Luka said:
Well, I do see your point and agree to a degree… however, is it really right to assume that every man suffers physical, emotional and mental abuse in all their relationships with women? Is it also fair to say in situations where a man is violent towards a woman (without being provoked in the manner which I have just described) that the woman deserved it because it is the pressures of society upon this man that causes him (like a whipped dog) to lash out?
–What you are doing is avoiding the question, Luka. I have already stated that of course not ALL cases are like this. My question still remains, how many are actually like that? I am not “avoiding” responsibility, nor am I saying that all domestic violence is like that scenario. What I AM saying is that much of the RESPONSIBILITY, is placed upon the Mans shoulders even though he might be the one that needs the actual help. In my previous statement, I didn’t make any excuses for violence. I simply gave a reason WHY it might have happened and the causes for the problem through a parable.–
No! Emphatically not! In your post you claim (and rightly so) that women should have more responsibility for their actions, and yet you appear to suggest that such men are violent because of society, therefore taking away this man’s personal responsibility by blaming the ‘matriarchy’ and society at large. I find this to be highly hypocritical.
–In my previous post, I never wrote anything about the Matriarchy, nor did I suggest that Men are violent because of society. Men (in my view) are violent because of evolutionary trends (that is another arguement for later). If a man suffers from abuse of any sort, he has nowhere to go besides away from that problem, which leads to homelessness to say the least. Women have a smorgasboard of options to choose from. We aren’t even allowed in DV centers simply because of the fact that we’re Male! How can you even talk of hypocrisy, when we have to deal with this? You infer too much from my statements and as usual refuse to look at the whole picture. WE HAVE NO OPTIONS! WE CAN’T EVEN CALL THE POLICE(in most cases).
I agree that society is geared up in such a way that could be an influential factor in creating a feeling of frustration within a man that would be an explanation for him lashing out – yet, should not and can not be used as an excuse for his actions.
-You expect Men to live up to an Ideal that you yourself will never have to live up to. You call me a hypocrite? You agree with me and in the same sentence refute your own statement? Who is the hypocrite Luka? You ignore human nature when you say these things. You ignore cause and effect when you say these things. You also ignore biological imperative as well. You agree that there’s a factor that causes Men to lash out and yet you say that it’s inexcuseable to lash out. You cannot have your cake and eat it as well. –
What are not worth the time to decipher? Women or those sayings you mentioned? Interesting observation though. I have noticed there are many of such sayings which say a lot about society’s ideas about certain concepts or groups of people.
–I was vague in my last post, so I will clarify. Women aren’t worth the time to decipher Luka. Their “complexity” isn’t worth it. Their lies, ect ect (I believe I mentioned this in the last post).
Which thoughts and approaches in particular would you say that women have all wrong with respect to men? I am interested to know because of course I am open to learning such things, but also to understanding your point of view.
–I will start with perspective. To view Men as a “catch”, or as a potential debt slave is the wrong way to look at a PERSON in general. You must start by looking at them as a PERSON. What I make, or how I choose to live, shouldn’t really matter in my view. My thoughts and ideas should matter, the way I look at life should matter. My goals, they as well should matter. Not the materialistic cancer that is the rotting core of our society.–
You are correct. If used correctly acting the victim can be used to get oneself into a position of great power. Not sure if it is a perversion of nature, as I see it as more of an indication of a new aspect to the nature and concept of power that is so insidious that it can be easily overlooked.
–Agreed.–
I guess your reaction is a variation of ‘giving a dog a bad name…’ idea. It is true that if you are told you are a violent oppressor of women everyday you eventually begin to believe it, but this is different from actually being a violent oppressor of women.
Although I can understand this viewpoint that you have, I don’t agree with it because you are still giving away responsibility and placing it in the hands of society – while we are all products of society, we don’t have to be puppets, we are human beings who have responsibility for how we act.
–Yes however, when you hear about these wimmin bitching about a problem that they have a hand in creating, it quickly becomes both repetitve and ironic.–
…yet the question I would like to know is – how long will it take for women to wake up to the situation? I believe once both genders have their eyes open to the nature of the problem there may be a shift in how gender is treated. But then, maybe I am being far too optimistic? Not sure if I really answered your questions, abbaddon, by all means ask me to clarify if need be.
–As I have said before this isn’t a new thing. As to your question, I don’t know. To anwser it you must fully understand human nature, something that no one has really understood nor will fully understand.
-Strength and Honor–
At least we know where this one gets it.
-Dick
Thanks Luka and abaddon for an interesting dialog worth reading. You may wish to take that to the forums (especially Politik) if it continues at length.
-wolfe
Well, I do see your point and agree to a degree… however, is it really right to assume that every man suffers physical, emotional and mental abuse in all their relationships with women? Is it also fair to say in situations where a man is violent towards a woman (without being provoked in the manner which I have just described) that the woman deserved it because it is the pressures of society upon this man that causes him (like a whipped dog) to lash out?
No! Emphatically not! In your post you claim (and rightly so) that women should have more responsibility for their actions, and yet you appear to suggest that such men are violent because of society, therefore taking away this man’s personal responsibility by blaming the ‘matriarchy’ and society at large. I find this to be highly hypocritical.
I agree that society is geared up in such a way that could be an influential factor in creating a feeling of frustration within a man that would be an explanation for him lashing out – yet, should not and can not be used as an excuse for his actions.
What are not worth the time to decipher? Women or those sayings you mentioned? Interesting observation though. I have noticed there are many of such sayings which say a lot about society’s ideas about certain concepts or groups of people.
Which thoughts and approaches in particular would you say that women have all wrong with respect to men? I am interested to know because of course I am open to learning such things, but also to understanding your point of view.
You are correct. If used correctly acting the victim can be used to get oneself into a position of great power. Not sure if it is a perversion of nature, as I see it as more of an indication of a new aspect to the nature and concept of power that is so insidious that it can be easily overlooked.
I guess your reaction is a variation of ‘giving a dog a bad name…’ idea. It is true that if you are told you are a violent oppressor of women everyday you eventually begin to believe it, but this is different from actually being a violent oppressor of women.
Although I can understand this viewpoint that you have, I don’t agree with it because you are still giving away responsibility and placing it in the hands of society – while we are all products of society, we don’t have to be puppets, we are human beings who have responsibility for how we act.
I am not going to be an apologist for any man or woman who uses violence as a means to bully or degrade another person. I may understand that there are influences that caused him or her to act in such a way – that could be the ‘bad-childhood’ excuses or a ‘nature of society’ excuses – yet that does not mean he is not ultimately responsible for the course of action he/she decided to take.
Your question is not an easy one to tackle, as it would require an essay, a lot of research and plenty of follow up questions for the answer to be anywhere near useful to anyone. I don’t know how long it takes for men to become disgusted with the situation with gender at the moment. I think plenty of men are waking up to the situation and finding society’s concept of ‘maleness’ is becoming a strait-jacket and women are ‘taking the mickey’…
…yet the question I would like to know is – how long will it take for women to wake up to the situation? I believe once both genders have their eyes open to the nature of the problem there may be a shift in how gender is treated. But then, maybe I am being far too optimistic? Not sure if I really answered your questions, abbaddon, by all means ask me to clarify if need be.
Cheers
-Luka
I empathize, Sandra, I really do. This is what I see my kids going through every day. The lies my ex has told them about me are amazing.
Again, try and set a goal and keep your eyes on the prize. If you want to live with your dad, it’s possible to do it, you just have to carefully manipulate the situation.
Tell you what, Sandra. I don’t usually do this, but I’d be happy to give you some specifics that might help in your situation — but I doubt either of us would want to broadcast it to the world. So write me at dakotasmith at cableone dot net (written that way to avoid spam) if you’re inclined to.
yeah, even though my mother talks to him like shit he (unbelievably) puts that aside. and i hate her even more because of that. i feel like i have to stick up for me and him. but he tells me to be nice to her, tell her i love her, and tells me that she really does try. its so …
ugh.
I understand your situation entirely. It’s what I’m hoping to avoid with my own children, though that may be a vain hope.
I know it’s tough, but sometimes you have to look at this strategically — that is, what’s the overall war-plan rather than how is the individual battle going?
If the overall war plan is to be living with your dad, then it’s counter-productive to lose individual battles. Losing a battle in this case means making your mom feel bad because she’ll react by interfering in the long-term goal.
So when she starts bitching, lie. Say to her, “Mom, of course that’s not true, I love you and dad the same!”
In fact, speaking as a father, I say make your dad the bad guy. Clear it with him so that you’re on the same page, but I doubt he’ll care. Your mom hates him anyway, so hating him in this situation isn’t going to be any different.
Ask your dad what you can tell your mom that will make it sound like he needs you at his house for some reason. Then tell your mom you need to go over, not because it’s something you necessarily want to do, but because your dad needs the help.
Then she can bitch about him, but so what? She does that already.
Make your dad the bad guy and deflect things away from yourself and onto him. If he’s any kind of father, he’ll happily accept it.
i hate how my mom always puts him down. shes like “you love him more dont you?! god, you’re just like your father!” blahblahblah. and though at times i do like intentionally hurting her feelings (yes, im horrible), i cant help but mutter ‘no..’ when she asks me if i love my dad more. i hate how she constantly MAKES me chooses. shes hurting herself, because she knows -in the end- im going to pick my dad.
See, in your case, I’d think the “extended visit” scenario would work perfectly:
Tomorrow, make up an excuse to go see your dad. Call your mom late. Tell her you’re massively tired and ask if you can just spend the night rather than come home. Have your dad tell her that he’ll make sure you get to school on time, etc.
Next week, do it a couple of times. the week after that, a few more. Make up an excuse to spend weekends there.
After a while, you’ll be functionally living with him, and you won’t have to change schools or anything.
The trick, as near as I can tell, is to do it in a way that would avoid upsetting your mom. You want to avoid doing anything that makes her feel like she’s not a good parent, because then she’ll fight hard to prove that she is — and that may include forbidding you to see your father except at scheduled visitation times.
If you just go over and “hang out” at your dad’s, you get the same result as living with him but without offending her.
im leaving for college after this yr anyways. but i just turned 17 and i live in virginia. i see my dad lots because he only lives 15 minutes away. i like living here bc i live in walking distance to all my close friends and if i lived with my dad id go to this other school. i avoid stuff by just not talking to my mother. its easier that way.
May I ask your age and where you live? The reason is that I happen to know that at least in the US, most judges will listen to a child’s wishes when they’re above a certain age. If you tell your father that you’d rather live with him but make it clear that he needs to be the “bad guy” in bringing it before a judge so that you can avoid hurting your mother’s feelings, he’ll probably agree to do so.
You can also take the tactic that I’m taking: knowing that my ex doesn’t actually want the children, when my daughters say they miss me, I tell them that any time they want to visit, I’m happy to have them. This has resulted in two unscheduled visits so far, and they only moved at the end of the summer. My youngest is extremely clear that she wants to move back here and doesn’t like the large metro area where they live now.
What I’m doing is passively setting the stage for our scheduled Christmas visitation. At that point, there will be an opportunity for an extended visit after the scheduled one, since I’d be able to more easily enroll my daughters in the local school. If my daughters ask to visit me for the remainder of the school year, my ex will get used to them not being around.
And they simply may never come back.
I will not ask for an amendment to our custody arrangement, since that would certainly provoke her into fighting for custody and then put my daughters in the position of actually having to choose and make her feel bad. But if they just came for a visit and didn’t come back, and she kept getting monthly child support checks and always had the option to pull them if she wanted …
Again, I can’t speak to your specific circumstance, but you might see if your dad is amenable to extended visits as a way to start living with him.
aw thats sad. and not fair. i wish i lived with my dad. i live with my mother. yes, unfortunate.
This another difference between men and women, Sandra. We love our children and enjoy spending time with them.
I have two daughters. My youngest was born during finals week in my next-to-last semester of college. I credit her with a much higher grade in my 400-level Statistics course than I actually deserve: I missed the scheduled final because of her birth and made it up a few days later in the professor’s office. I had extra time to study, and in any case I think he went easy on me when grading the exam.
My youngest then spent the next semester on my knee. I quit my part-time job at Best Buy (I was the company’s first PC technician — the precursor to what has become the Geek Squad) because there was no point: whatever I’d've made there would have been less than the cost of day-care, and my ex was earning enough to support the three of us that semester.
I spent days in between my two classes that semester with my daughter. I studied with her on my knee, fed her, changed her diapers, took her to the mall when I needed a break, and so forth. While it took a lot of effort, I enjoyed it immensely because I love her dearly.
When I graduated, got a job, and had to leave her with day-care, I felt miserable. The first few days, I cried between dropping her off and getting to work.
I’d've given my left arm to have the opportunity to stay home and raise my daughters full-time. To this day, I’ve promised them that the moment I win the South Dakota lottery, I’ll start home-schooling them and spending all my time with them. Of course, they’re both old enough that they know it’s more likely I’ll be hit by lightning, but one can dream.
To my ex, the children are an afterthought, something she deals with because it’s socially expected of her. She even moved them five hundred miles away from me because that was where she wanted to be — knowing that it would cause our children pain and simply not caring. I now have frequent midnight phone calls from my youngest (she’s 11, now) who misses me terribly.
“It’s not fair!” she’ll cry, between sobs. All I can do is agree.
If she actually loved her children, would she have put them through the emotional wringer like this?
It’s like sex: it’s not fun for a woman to raise her children, it’s work. It’s not something she does because she wants to, she does it because she must.
It’s the most bizarre thing I’ve ever witnessed. The image of my ex crying in the bathtub because my sister got pregnant months before she did and then demanding that we have children while I was still in college is a massive contrast to how she actually would rather not be burdened by them.
im just going to establish the fact that i have the worst mother in the world. but anyways, i think that most mothers are usually really good mothers who try so hard to be the best that they can be, that it literally drains everything out of them (”mommy madness” anyone?).
Luka said:
Nobody deserves to be beaten black and blue in a relationship, it is not an appropriate way to behave, even when provoked. There is never any justification or excuse for that behaviour. People who engage in violence within a relationship have issues – with anger or self-control whatever and need to seek help.
-I think that you are wrong here, take for example the dog that is constantly beaten and whipped. Chained to its post it cannot do anything against its tormentors. Yet you would blame the dog for lashing out violently? It’s similar in principle Luka, after years of physical, emotional, and mental abuse, SUPRISINGLY SOME MEN LASH OUT! WHAT A SURPRISE! I WONDER WHY THAT HAPPENED!? Not every case is like this however I wonder how many actually are like that. Women have no concept of what they do to other people, nor do they care.–
However, if a woman is with a man with such issues and is fully aware of his temper it makes no sense to call her a victim if she provokes him with jealousy and mind games. I am not defending his actions, but she is partly responsible for the reaction she has provoked. Usually such women provoke a man in this way to gain a reaction and is another form of bullying in itself.
–It’s called manipulation, and women are experts at it. They recieve training from birth onwards. Why do you think that women talk about how they are going to “catch” a man e.g. “Nice catch”? There are many examples of this and many womens approaches and thoughts torwards men are flawed to begin with, thats why they get used and thrown away. They aren’t worth the time to decipher.–
No, I am not avoiding the viewpoint that such women deserve a beating because I ‘dont have the balls’ as you put it. That is because I don’t think anyone ‘deserves’ a beating. Who am I to judge who is or isn’t deserving of such treatment?
I would never ever wish that upon another human being. I know it may appear that way but I am limited on an internet forum to communicate a subtle difference in my point… what I am looking at is cause and effect… if a woman knows how to press the buttons to create a violent reaction in a man who she knows has issues with anger and violence, who is really the victim in such a situation?
–In my view, many women gain power through being a “victim”. The refusal to accept responsibility for your own words or actions, gives you power. You don’t have to have a “conscience”. You don’t have to work with a code of ethics, which would limit you torwards an honorable course of action. In todays society being a victim is what its all about. You gain power through being “powerless” (a true perversion of nature).–
Feminists create their own enemies every day. How long do you have to hear that you’re a violent oppressor of women, day in and day out before you actually become one? How long do you have to listen to the lies, the self-effacing comments, the subtle denials, the narcissim, ect ect, before you become completely disgusted with that whole aspect of humanity? What does it take? Tell me Luka I am interested in your anwser to this question.
-Strength and Honor-
So to your fat arse likely does.
Despite the slightly mocking tone you have there, I will take that as a compliment. Thank you.
Nobody deserves to be beaten black and blue in a relationship, it is not an appropriate way to behave, even when provoked. There is never any justification or excuse for that behaviour. People who engage in violence within a relationship have issues – with anger or self-control whatever and need to seek help.
However, if a woman is with a man with such issues and is fully aware of his temper it makes no sense to call her a victim if she provokes him with jealousy and mind games. I am not defending his actions, but she is partly responsible for the reaction she has provoked. Usually such women provoke a man in this way to gain a reaction and is another form of bullying in itself.
No, I am not avoiding the viewpoint that such women deserve a beating because I ‘dont have the balls’ as you put it. That is because I don’t think anyone ‘deserves’ a beating. Who am I to judge who is or isn’t deserving of such treatment?
I would never ever wish that upon another human being. I know it may appear that way but I am limited on an internet forum to communicate a subtle difference in my point… what I am looking at is cause and effect… if a woman knows how to press the buttons to create a violent reaction in a man who she knows has issues with anger and violence, who is really the victim in such a situation?
Luka, that was a typical feminine response, and I guess I didn’t expect anything different from you. The fact that you didn’t say something similar is a bit shocking. Even more amazing is:
What you said was 50% correct, so I took the liberty of putting the other 50% in. But that was a very good attempt at open minded thinking there. Congrats, Luka, because I am starting to gain respect for you.
However, that is exactly what you’re saying. If you were a man, you wouldn’t have to say it without saying it like that. That’s why men are born with balls.
Gents, take it to the Politik Man Forums.
-Dick
wolfe, surely the Muslim masses support Bin Laden no matter what he does. They fundamentally hate America and to them any alternative is better. But the actual top teirs of the structure of Al Queda? Of course they have different opinions than him. They’re not pawns, there associates and fellow terrorists and veterans of the Afghan-Soviet war.
Do you think they don’t have say in the strategy of their Jihad against the west? It has been said that Bin Laden is the figurehead, but Dr. Zawahiri the mastermind of operations.
And Bin Laden’s persmission from Islamic religous elites is vital to his propaganda effort and recruiting in this war. Was not Caesar even proclaimed Emporer for life by the pagan religious leaders before the Senate said so?
It’s extremely difficult for me to evaluate the threat posed to the US by Muslim terrorists. The problem is simple: what information do you trust?
A fair percentage of the information comes from the press. Unfortunately for the press, I’ve had too many dealings with its members in the past to trust anything they report. I’ve been directly involved in news stories on a number of occasions, and in every single one, what the press reported and what I saw or did didn’t match. In one instance, I even had a reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times actually make up quotes. Admittedly, I liked what she claimed I said better than what I actually said, but the fact remains that it was total fiction. It wasn’t a misquote: what I said had the same intent, but she reworked it so that it had greater emotional impact.
So I’ve learned to assume that anything you read from the member of the press should be assumed to be wholly fiction — or at best, tangential to reality.
Leaving out the press as a source of information, we have government sources. The problem with trusting them is that they’ve already proved themselves to be either unreliable or outright lies. On a good day, I tend to choose the former explanation, and today is a good day.
Given: the intelligence wings of the government have consistently failed to do good work for decades (they said the Soviet Union was still a threat almost as it was imploding).
Given: under the best of circumstances, information released by government to the public will have as a first goal reassuring the public and secondarily to confuse the enemy.
Given: the press is inherently inaccurate.
What source can one trust to inform one’s opinions?
There is only one: personal friends. That’s all. People that you’ve known and trusted for a long time and who have personal experience in whatever it is that you’re interested in.
This is why, when the WTC towers fell in what looked like a controlled demolition, I immediately called my oldest friend. He is a forensic engineer who worked for a number of years at Boeing, and his job was to take planes that had crashed, reconstruct them, and figure out what failed and how they fell apart. While not an expert in building construction, you can see that the same scientific principles apply.
When he told me that the towers probably pancaked, I believed him. I still believe him. I didn’t pay the slightest attention to the press or the government or the conspiracy theorists, I listened to the informed opinion of someone I knew I could trust.
Who involved in international terrorism can I trust?
No one I know.
Consequently, I don’t have a basis on which to evaluate the true threat Muslim terrorists pose. I agree that there is a potential threat, but it’s possible that this is simply a case of “the mouse that roared.” I mean, I could get some people to give me permission to kill ten million Americans, but could I actually pull it off?
Heh. Women are not 100% angels in the relationship department, let’s face it.
I know this is very non-PC but I am completely against violence in a relationship – that said, some women I know in my life I would easily give a punch in the gob if I were her boyfriend. What some feminists seem to ignore is the fact that some women ARE SO ANNOYING that they earn themselves a slap in the face.
A woman I once knew used to tease her boyfriend about her sleeping with other men among other fucked up mindgames and wonder why he would get all insecure and violent towards her… don’t get me wrong, there is rarely an excuse for using violence nor would I say she ‘deserved’ to be treated that way….however she is NOT a victim, she provokes him to act against his better nature, when he lashes out she is the victim, not him – even though she is emotionally and psychologically abusing him!
Women are capable of malice, mind games and violence, it is not impossible that a divorce would be an option for a man with such a woman as a wife and that a woman can be mostly to blame for that turn of events.
The idea that bin Laden lost support from the faithful Muslims? Hmmm… did you see all the people from Morocco through Indonesia cheering in the streets after 9/11?
I don’t think bin Laden feels he needs permission from anyone to take 10 million US lives.
I also doubt they he can take that many, not without a lot of nuclear weapons, and I don’t see them gaining (and smuggling in) more than one or so. A hundred thousand dead? Sure.
And that, ironically, would be the one thing that probably would rouse America: mass civilian casualties.
The other scenario of 4 million Iranians pouring across the border… while awful, that’d be a very bad move on the Iranian’s part. First, most Arabs would view that as Persians attacking Arabs. Second, they’d be relatively easy to stop if they poured across the border like that. Finally, it’d be a blatant causus belli, even for the Europeans. Coupled with a nuclear strike on New York killing 100,000 innocent people, I imagine even (especially) Hillary Clinton would be screaming for us to nuke Tehran.
No, it’s the slow steady drip of military casualties combined with defeatist democrats that poses the biggest threat to us, I think. Quiet Iranian funding, technology transfer, and a slow steady stream of suicide bombers being infiltrated seems more likely from the Iranians. From non-state actors, I agree, a nuclear device used on US soil is a near certainty over the next 20 years.
-wolfe
But those wars of attrition and massive deaths are exactly what our enemies are willing to do, for however long it takes. Bin Laden and friends once believed that terrorist attacks with convential weapons and guerilla tactics alone would shake the will of the US. It has, but so far it appears we’re not waving the surrender flag yet…
But what happens with a combination of a nuclear strike on NYC or DC, and 4 million Iranian suicide bombers and soldiers pouring across the border into Iraq to slaughter our troops?
I don’t know how many of you are really informed about Al Queda, but there is a reason US soil has not been attacked since 9/11. And I’m sorry fellas, it’s not because of anything we’re doing.
After the 9/11 strikes, Bin Laden lost much support from his most trusted troops, who even fought with him against the USSR in the 80’s. Even his own son abandoned him!! You see, in Islam, Muhammed orders you give your enemies ample chance to convert before attacking. And in the past 5 years Al Queda has done nothing but tell Americans the shock that is coming and they can make it all go away. Now the warnings are finished and Bin Laden has been given permission from Muslim scholars to take 10 MILLION AMERICAN LIVES.