Women Are So Anti-Gay It’s Not Even Funny

True story. I was walking to the store yesterday and smoking a giant Cuban cigar — as I like to do on Tuesday’s. On the way, I passed a woman who was shouting at her dog. The dog had wandered away and was ferreting through someone’s trash.

Being the helpful man that I am, I tried to explain to the woman that the dog was probably not understanding her position on the matter and that this is one of the reasons the city magistrate considers it in everyone’s best interests for dogs to be kept on leashes — to deter that kind of chaos. Everyone got together and agreed it would make the city better.

The woman made an overly-crass comment that I’m not going to repeat here because of its hateful subject matter and stormed away. I found myself asking one question as she did.

Why do all women hate gay people so much?

Women sling insults of the homosexual variety at men with greater fervor and intensity than a rabid wolf. They practically spit all over themselves when they get a chance to snarl some anti-gay epithet at a man. It’s disgusting.

Also, when I say “gay people”, I obviously mean gay men. Gay women, or “lesbians” are not gay. They’re faking it. You can tell because they’re as loud as possible about their sexual proclivities at all times.

Just like the mischievous school boy who insists he doesn’t cheat at Monopoly is a liar and a cheater (good man-reasoning in Monopoly — a sure way to win!), “lesbians” are not actually gay. They just want attention, some way to define themselves that isn’t “failure”, or to get back at their parents for clothing and sheltering them for twenty-four years (usually more). I don’t know when these “lesbian’s” decided that proper parenting was a crime, but they did and we men have to deal with it.

Women claim that gay people are the greatest things since sliced bread. But listen to their reasons: because they shop and because they listen.

Listen? Women know as much about listening as an ass knows about playing a flute.

What women actually want to do with gay people (when they’re not shaming them behind their backs with radically anachronistic slanders) is use them as a dart board for an endless tirade of nonsense blubbering about men in general, and without ever having to return any kind of favor for this service — any kind.

That is monkey shit.

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Comment by Dakota Smith
2006-09-24 17:33:36 - IP Man-Hash: 05bdcb82f843a

Ok … we all know that I’m a crazy, anti-government nutjob. I don’t for a nanosecond believe that the right people to decide what’s best for you are in the halls of government, whether that be in your local town hall, your local state legislature, and most especially thousands of miles away in a national capital.

Only you know what’s best for you.

That said, zogmama, your experience may be slightly tainted by the people you deal with on a daily basis. My experience, and that of my father (a psychologist who’s had his own practice most of my life) is that the primary use of abortion is a birth control mechanism.

The average woman who has abortions gets them repeatedly, due to the fact that no one was using contraception when they had sex. It’s a birth control mechanism, plain and simple. I certainly agree that men can have some level of culpability, but ultimately it’s the woman’s body and therefore ultimately her responsibility if she gets pregnant or not.

It’s hypocritical, in my opinion, to say that on the one hand a woman is responsible for her body when it comes to having an abortion, but she’s not responsible for having gotten pregnant in the first place.

Damned right, it’s a woman’s body. If she doesn’t want to get pregnant, she better be on birth control.

It’s sort of like the situation in the male homosexual population: most gay men are incredibly promiscuous. Check out any “Casual Encounters” section of Craigslist for proof. If you go around having unprotected sex with random partners, you will eventually find one with STDs.

Who bears the personal responsibility for contracting an STD in that situation? The man having unprotected sex with multiple partners, or the one he had sex with that had the STD?

Pregnancy is the same. It’s the woman’s body, so if she doesn’t want to get pregnant, she needs to not behave recklessly by having sex without contraception.

It may not be fair, but then life isn’t fair.

Ultimately, the entire issue boils down to a religious one, asking a question that simply cannot be objectively answered: is a human foetus a human being and therefore deserving of the rights of a human being?

As I say, it’s an unanswerable philosophical question at this time. The answer will depend entirely on what one’s personal beliefs are.

What bothers me is that those who believe that is a human being are so eager to use government force to make those who disagree bend to their will. Here the United States is in the middle of a war with individuals who would force us to bend to their philosophical beliefs, a war which is uniformly supported by the same people who want to force others to bend to their philosophical beliefs.

And sadly, the home-grown pro-lifers can’t see the dark hypocrisy of the situation. They don’t want Muslims telling them what to believe, but they’re perfectly content to tell pro-choice advocates what to believe.

All that aside, I know how to make the whole problem disappear instantly:

Adhere to the Constitution. There’s nothing whatsoever in the Constitution that says anything about abortion being a power of the Federal government, so any and all abortion law — pro or con — should be immediately removed from the books. RvW should be immediately struck down and power over the issue returned to the States or the People.

Furthermore, any and all Federal funding for abortion should be removed from the ledgers. It’s not within the Federal government’s purview to touch this issue in any way, shape, manner, or form.

If individual State constitutions delegate the power to regulate abortion to its governments, the States can decide what they want to do. No doubt this will mean that in some areas of the country, abortion would be legal and in others illegal. Again, I don’t think it’s appropriate to deal with this issue in government at all, but that would be a damned sight better than intentionally polarizing the entire nation over something not within the Federal Government’s purview in the first place.

 
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Comment by zogmama
2006-09-24 17:05:29 - IP Man-Hash: 7e9f483ab328c

Billy: I didn’t blame men - I gave both parties responsibility. Men have a choice as well. The repercussions of abortion OR carrying a child to term fall unequally - primarily on the woman. If that is not accountability, then you need to redefine your terms.

~Z~

 
Comment by Luka
2006-09-24 17:02:34 - IP Man-Hash: a5d80956a3e6c

I think Zogmama has an interesting point with regards to attitudes towards abortion. There is a great deal of hypocrisy with the idea that women are 100% to ‘blame’ 100% of the time for this does seem to communicate that somehow having babies or being pregnant is a bad thing that has happened that requires pointing the finger of blame at somebody in the first place. Yet when a woman decides to terminate the ‘bad’ pregnancy somehow she is attacked for that also.

I am not disagreeing with Sonyad’s view on abortion per se, just acknowledging that Zogmama has made an interesting observation that is important to look at, if only for a passing second.

 
Comment by sandra
2006-09-24 16:42:18 - IP Man-Hash: 2f2d948528fdf

both are responsible. or “to blame”.

 
Comment by Billy
2006-09-24 16:40:33 - IP Man-Hash: 06ed5ff70ac4b

zogmama said:

@sonyad: You are 100% entitled to your opinion, and I respect it. As to a woman “falling” pregnant, that is a biological issue. Men have a choice not to impregnate a woman, by using birth control that THEY control (condoms, vasectomy). No method is 100% effective, except abstinence.

In my experience, the idea of a woman becoming pregnant to trap a man, or becoming pregnant without thought, only to have an abortion as though it were a nail appointment, is not at all common. Do these scenarios still occur? Possibly, but the incidence of abortion in the US began dropping even before laws made it more difficult to accomplish.

I can’t speak to your experience, and I believe that you and I live in very different parts of the world. Therefore, as I stated, I respect your opinion. Everyone’s opinion is necessarily prejudiced by their experience; mine, yours, everyone’s.

~Z~

Again the women taking little responsibility and holding the man responsible. Women have a choice not to get prego and yet you want to hold men as blame. Why can’t women be accountable if they are so damn equal?

Because women aren’t equal.
Abortions having been dropping from where I am in America.
Women just say anything without a speck of truth.

 
Comment by zogmama
2006-09-24 16:12:13 - IP Man-Hash: 7e9f483ab328c

You asked women to respond, and I did. I was respectful of your opinion and I did not reveal mine, as regards abortion. It is indeed a woman’s issue. In fact, you did not respond to what I said, but used it as a platform to express your views.

That’s all well and good, but it’s not a discussion, it’s a sermon. I haven’t disagreed with what you are saying, but you respond as though I did. Perhaps you should start a blog on this topic.

It is not lost on me that your analogy of an “amefuto mom” in a SUV running over a pedestrian was meant to provoke me.

Respectfully,

~Z~

 
Comment by sonyad
2006-09-24 15:23:20 - IP Man-Hash: 980cc8a8ac1a7

It is wrong to inflict needless or undue/facilely avoidable pain upon any living thing. That is to say, so long as a sentient or otherwise creature capable of sensing its physical denaturation or harm - pain impulses - , conscientised or not, we as human beings endowed with free will and intelligence are bound by moral obligation to refrain from exercising cruelty towards such beings. Anything else is tantamount to cruelty.

And let us not forget we’re talking about a plenary human life here, not some bovine on it’s way to be quickly and humanely decerebrated for the honour of temporarily residing in my cheeseburger, and a few hundred others to boot, in the fine company of a division of its peers.

Of course, all that hardly amounts to squat when set against abortion and the kind of morally destitute women that have them with predilection. It’s all peachy out of platonic discussion.

By similar logic, pedestrians run over by amefuto moms in tank-like suvs are as much to blame for what happened next as the women they mistakenly trusted to stop at the red light.

There are no cultural offsets that can possibly shine a bright light, better yet a dim one, on this heinous practice. Infanticide is immoral irrespective of culture. To purport otherwise is only just redundant evidence of the penury of morality that is distinctive of our times.

 
Comment by zogmama
2006-09-24 14:39:23 - IP Man-Hash: 7e9f483ab328c

@sonyad: You are 100% entitled to your opinion, and I respect it. As to a woman “falling” pregnant, that is a biological issue. Men have a choice not to impregnate a woman, by using birth control that THEY control (condoms, vasectomy). No method is 100% effective, except abstinence.

In my experience, the idea of a woman becoming pregnant to trap a man, or becoming pregnant without thought, only to have an abortion as though it were a nail appointment, is not at all common. Do these scenarios still occur? Possibly, but the incidence of abortion in the US began dropping even before laws made it more difficult to accomplish.

I can’t speak to your experience, and I believe that you and I live in very different parts of the world. Therefore, as I stated, I respect your opinion. Everyone’s opinion is necessarily prejudiced by their experience; mine, yours, everyone’s.

~Z~

 
Comment by sonyad
2006-09-24 14:33:18 - IP Man-Hash: 980cc8a8ac1a7

The wrong gal. Must’ve been someone else with the traditional ‘fagots’ greeting then.

 
Comment by sonyad
2006-09-24 14:30:47 - IP Man-Hash: 980cc8a8ac1a7

@Zogmama I abhore abortion. I find women who willingly go through it out of convenience repugnant. Those who have more than one of those are downright despicable. Let us not kid ourselves as to how many abortions are a direct result of rape or medical predicaments.

So be it, go through with the deed, just don’t have the audacity to expect laurels or commiseration/simpathy afterwards. It’s not you that’s the real victim.

Yes, it does take 2 to tango but that hardly means anything to the one with the broken ankle from wearing the stilettos. Blame the father all you want, it’s inherently the woman’s fault for having had/let an unplanned pregnancy happen in the first place. It’s she that ‘falls’ pregnant, after all.

 
Comment by sandra
2006-09-24 14:27:52 - IP Man-Hash: 2f2d948528fdf

im not quite grasping what you’re asking [unintentional rhyming], please rephrase in a more clear, articulate manner :/

 
Comment by sonyad
2006-09-24 14:18:59 - IP Man-Hash: 980cc8a8ac1a7

sandra, how does Dakota’s being a fagot square off with having fathered? Or do you suppose it’s a subsequntly acquired taste in his instance?

Or perhaps someone else, using the same ‘e-mail’, wrote those elucubrations?

Spellbound by Djuma Soundsystem.

 
Comment by sandra
2006-09-24 14:11:53 - IP Man-Hash: 2f2d948528fdf

oh ok. well, it does take a woman AND a man to make a baby. since last i checked [; the whole 100% “fault” thing is bs-

 
Comment by diamatik
2006-09-24 14:11:25 - IP Man-Hash: 4555637db20cf

It means that when compared to you, zogmama is a rocket scientist.

 
Comment by zogmama
2006-09-24 14:07:29 - IP Man-Hash: 7e9f483ab328c

That was directed to sonyad, who called for women’s opinions on abortion. It just seems contradictory to state in one breath that pregancy is a matter of fault (implying it is negative), then to excoriate anyone who dared to terminate said pregnancy. Perhaps a better word would be “responsibility” rather than “fault,” though I still think that two people are involved and thereby both responsible.

~Z~

 
Comment by sandra
2006-09-24 14:01:37 - IP Man-Hash: 2f2d948528fdf

zogmama said:

I find it interesting that Dick states that every pregnancy is 100% the woman’s FAULT, 100% of the time. How does that square with your cherishing of every pregnancy?

what do you mean?

 
Comment by sandra
2006-09-24 13:57:01 - IP Man-Hash: 2f2d948528fdf

most of my opinions/beliefs lean towards liberalism, yes. im not an adult yet, and im always told that things will change once i am an adult. who knows. i cant see it, but oh well. im very open-minded. im for gay marriage. im a firm believer in individual rights and liberties. pro-choice as i mentioned. i believe in seperation of church and state. for euthanasia.
what do you mean pro choice on schools? im still unsure with some things. im not sure where i stand on the war. or on firearms. i guess when im older and “know more about myself”.

 
Comment by zogmama
2006-09-24 13:36:01 - IP Man-Hash: 7e9f483ab328c

I find it interesting that Dick states that every pregnancy is 100% the woman’s FAULT, 100% of the time. How does that square with your cherishing of every pregnancy? I’m not challenging you, not interested in getting involved in a flame war, just asking a question.

As a woman and a mother, I would advise sandra to “never say never.” I am unaware of many men protesting or suing the mothers of their unborn children to block abortions of their offspring. I anticipate that the argument is that they don’t know that their mate is pregnant before the abortion.

Some people, both male and female, view unplanned pregnancies as a mere inconvenience -I believe they are in the minority. Many more struggle with a moral dilemma, and suffer the consequences of their decision, for the rest of their lives.

There are no easy answers, and once an unplanned pregnancy occurs, there is no happy ending for anyone.

~Z~

 
Comment by wolfe
2006-09-24 13:27:40 - IP Man-Hash: 76cebfba7c181

sandra said:
being a liberal/democrat, its obvious which side im on. i would never get an abortion, but i think the government has enough say on things and what we want to do with our bodies is our choice. not the government’s.

So you’re pro-choice. Fair enough?
Are you pro-choice on firearms?
schools?
religion in the public square?
prayer in schools?

Or is the only thing you’re liberal about, the idea of terminating pregnancies?

liberal is such a strange word these days. I do not think most of its adherents grasp what it means…
-wolfe

 
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