seth goldstein said:

Ha. That’s funny- you should be a comedian.

And you should be a politician with all the bullshit you’re saying :)

Dick Masterson said:

And that’s why men are the majority. We would never say something so callous about another human being.

-Dick

Yawn.

abaddon_fff said:

I think that for the most part depression and anxiety are simply symptoms of a larger problem. This is a part of what Western medicine fails to address. In my view, the Hippocratic Oath is a farce in modern medicine. Doctors simply treat the symptoms instead of the overall problem. You don’t need drugs to “feel” better, you simply need to understand yourself and take a long look at your life. People worry so much about how things “should” be instead of taking the good things that they already have. Introspection, in moderation, in my view is much more healthy than taking a prescription medication of any sort.

In my view chemical imbalances in the brain are NOT natural. Some people may have it from a deficient biology, however they are a minority. It’s the stressors from the SOCIETY we live in that causes these imbalances, from my perspective. Most people live in total sensory and emotional overload from the begining to the end of their day.

-Strength and Honor-

Whoa, I totallly agree with abaddon’s post…and now I must lie down.

I think that for the most part depression and anxiety are simply symptoms of a larger problem. This is a part of what Western medicine fails to address. In my view, the Hippocratic Oath is a farce in modern medicine. Doctors simply treat the symptoms instead of the overall problem. You don’t need drugs to “feel” better, you simply need to understand yourself and take a long look at your life. People worry so much about how things “should” be instead of taking the good things that they already have. Introspection, in moderation, in my view is much more healthy than taking a prescription medication of any sort.

In my view chemical imbalances in the brain are NOT natural. Some people may have it from a deficient biology, however they are a minority. It’s the stressors from the SOCIETY we live in that causes these imbalances, from my perspective. Most people live in total sensory and emotional overload from the begining to the end of their day.

-Strength and Honor-

son of the suns said:

seth goldstein said:

If you have anxiety or depression, you should take medication, in my opinion- no use denying it.

I’m sure you would love to see men take as much anti-depressants as possible.

I mean since it’s testosterone and muscle killing effects are as good as castration.

Okay, then- don’t take them- because your muscles are much more important then not commiting suicide.

Dick Masterson said:

Female said:

It would be interesting to know whether the majority of treating physicians are men. What you don’t understand, just medicate?

And that’s why men are the majority. We would never say something so callous about another human being.

Ha. That’s funny- you should be a comedian.
-Dick

seth goldstein said:

If you have anxiety or depression, you should take medication, in my opinion- no use denying it.

I’m sure you would love to see men take as much anti-depressants as possible.

I mean since it’s testosterone and muscle killing effects are as good as castration.

Female said:

It would be interesting to know whether the majority of treating physicians are men. What you don’t understand, just medicate?

And that’s why men are the majority. We would never say something so callous about another human being.

-Dick

If you have anxiety or depression, you should take medication, in my opinion- no use denying it.

It would be interesting to know whether the majority of treating physicians are men. What you don’t understand, just medicate?

The probability of receiving any psychotropic drug is 55% greater in office visits by women than those by men, all else constant.

I got that from “Gender and Psychotropic Drug Use” Medical Care. 36(1):88-94, January 1998. by Linda Simoni-Wastila, RPh, PhD.

Alex said:

I think this may have been mentioned before, but the reason for high worldwide female illiteracy is because in some parts of the world women are denied education. As for Woman Hear Me Roar, she is truly an idiot. I think the best approach is to ignore her, and hopefully she’ll take her nasty comments elsewhere where she’ll provoke a response.

I agree.

Woman Hear Me Roar is an insult to idiots. She needs to go take a Midol or maybe even a Valium. I wonder what the stats are when it comes to % of men to women on anti despressants and anti anxiety drugs.

link”>www.sil.org/lingualinks/literacy/PrepareForALiteracyProgram/Coun triesWithTheLowestRatesOfL.htm - sorry, heres the link Sorry, here’s the link.

abaddon_fff said:

seth goldstein said:

Ah, perhaps the reason why there is a greater amount of female illiterates is because so many countries are under the impression that women do not NEED to learn how to read, as their whole purpose in life is to be totally submissive- remain hidden amongst the oppressions of the restrictive and often demeaning domestic sphere.

I agree with you M. Goldstein, however there are several issues to be addressed in that context. What countries are you speaking of? What is the literacy rate of each individual country overall? I seriously doubt that Men are that far ahead of women in those countries. In my view it has more to do with how the country itself is run, and what type of government it has. I would imagine that many of the illiterate are poor as well.

You’re quite right- here is a website of the countries with the lowest literacy rates

I’d like to make two points, however:
1. Islam: nothing against the religion as a whole- but Islamic countries tend to discourage equal education for women.

2. Put simply, statistics can mean everything, and at the same time- nothing at all…I’m sure statistics on different sites would vary significantly- for instance, I once saw a variation of 11.9% in the literacy rate of one country from one site to another. If you ask ‘people’ who they would vote for in a poll- and come up with an answer- does that make the answer definitively correct? Say you didn’t ask anyone under the age of 18- you didn’t ask anyone who didn’t speak english, you didn’t ask anyone in prison, etc. Statistics, I find are losing potentcy as more and more people tend to use them as ‘fact’-14% percent of all people know that. I feel sorry for the people who actually go to the trouble of creating reliable statistics.

I know it is of no use telling you that your views are obviously unduely biased- because you already seem to have made up your mind- I would like to know exactly how an obviously well educated, highly articulate and conceptually complex individual such as yourself could attach yourself to such unintelligent nonsence and wear it like a badge of honour

I doubt you’re talking about me, however many of the Men here, have come here through random chance and life experiences. I myself have seen the blatant idiocy of many women, and several repetitive trends that women as a whole seem to follow, in life, as well as love.

abaddon_fff

I do honestly mean it when I say say that I feel sorry for you if for your whole life you have been surrounded by only stupid women- that is a sad thing- because you have been denied the truth- I don’t know- there’s nothing to say that I havn’t been influenced in my opinion on this subject by the way I’ve been braught up- to respect all people unless you feel they have done something that makes them unworthy of it….and that for me includes many women..along with many men……it’s true, many women are stupid- I won’t deny that- but many men are stupid too- just as there are both intellegent men and intelligent women- honestly, I’m sorry you’ve had the life you’ve had- for you to end up thinking this way- and I don’t mean that in a spiteful way- I honestly do think it’s a shame.

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it honestly seems like a tremendous shame- you could be using your talents for something that would actually benefit the world but instead you choose to (of all things) display your thoughts ON THE INTERNET so that everyone can see them-

M. Goldstein, I would ask that you show me in one way (besides childbirth) that women are better than men before you ridicule this site. Simply because this sites premise isn’t politically correct, nor does it pander to womens “feelings”, doesn’t mean that it isn’t correct in the overall sense of the word.

I never tried to prove than women were better than men- it can’t be proved, because it isn’t true. Just as saying that men are better than women would be a lie. But if you must, I will direct you to crime- men commit more crime than women-there are more rapists, murderers and pedophiles out there who are male. at least in my country women score higher in humanities subjects (and sometimes biology) than men do, In fact- the top scoring school this year for my state was an all girls school- men do not fight as much as men- and let’s face it- war is not exactly thier thing, it it? When we look at the travistly of the holocaust- we don’t automatically associated with a woman’s evil doing- all this death and destruction all seems very masculine to me- I think (and this is just from my experience- feel free to disagree with me) that women tend to be less racist than men, they tend to be more nurturing and understanding and they don’t see anything wrong with expressing emotion- which, if you bottle up- can lead many to insanity and even to commit serious crimes- women don’t create fear- how often do you walk down the street at night and seee a woman and say “oh my g-d, she’s gonna mug me.” Never- I was never scared of a woman- because no woman has ever tried to scare me.

And just because all you people are so sure of yourselves does not make your opinions correct either- I’m not fighting for political correctness- I’m fighting because this hurts me- I think about all the women that I care about and of how people who don’t know them could see them on the street and assume that they are stupid lazy sluts- it’s terrible.

Just try not to be too harsh, okay- the next time you are on the road and it starts to bucket down with rain, what are you going to do? Face it, without your wipers you’d be in trouble, that is, if a woman hadn’t invented them- same with bullet- proof vests- I’m not starting a competition here- I know men have invented WAY more things than women have but you have to admit that those two things are quite clever.

now, obviously, if you wanted people to hear your opinions- that’s what you’d go and do-

I think thats what Mr. Masterson did.

so basically, anyone that comes across this site will know automatically that even though you are well educated

It seems that he is, regardless of his beliefs.

-you are still a moron-

Why the personal attacks?

Why the personal attacks? This whole site is one big attack on women and men that believe in equal rights alike-of course they will take it personally.

No one who knew the whole picture would say stupid stuff like this- he’s intelligent but he is stupid on an ultimate level because he can’t even work out what to do with his intelligence. In my opinion, life is just one big joke and unfortunately only a few people get it….and then there are those who waste time by hating instead of just living.

simply because your views are prejudiced, and prejudice helps nothing or anyone and makes the world an awful place for countless amounts of people-

Prejudice isn’t a “bad” thing, it’s simply a part of life. How you use it could be construed as a “bad” thing. What about judicial prejudice? Simply because a Man or woman was convicted of theft several times, does that mean that He/she is a thief? Hmmm?

Prejudice is a bad thing when it is against an entire group of people that are being judged based on something superficial - like race or gender- judicial prejudice is different because it addresses things that INDIVIDUALS have DONE- it reflects on one person, based on choices they have made–although, it is possible to be convicted of theft and still not be a thief.

Even though I disagree with your views, I still would not blame you if you had them but merely kept them to yourself- you seem so sure of yourself- you seem as if you could never be convinced into thinking otherwise- so why do you crave support and adulation from anyone else?- it’s sad.

At least you’re cordial, and try to maintain civility. I appreciate that if no one else does.

Why, thank you- I’m glad I could find at least one person whose arguments arn’t based on angry nonsense- someone whom I can imagine typing in a relaxed state and not slamming down on the keys like I can imagine most people do when they answer my posts.

seth goldstein said:

Ah, perhaps the reason why there is a greater amount of female illiterates is because so many countries are under the impression that women do not NEED to learn how to read, as their whole purpose in life is to be totally submissive- remain hidden amongst the oppressions of the restrictive and often demeaning domestic sphere.

I agree with you M. Goldstein, however there are several issues to be addressed in that context. What countries are you speaking of? What is the literacy rate of each individual country overall? I seriously doubt that Men are that far ahead of women in those countries. In my view it has more to do with how the country itself is run, and what type of government it has. I would imagine that many of the illiterate are poor as well.

I know it is of no use telling you that your views are obviously unduely biased- because you already seem to have made up your mind- I would like to know exactly how an obviously well educated, highly articulate and conceptually complex individual such as yourself could attach yourself to such unintelligent nonsence and wear it like a badge of honour

I doubt you’re talking about me, however many of the Men here, have come here through random chance and life experiences. I myself have seen the blatant idiocy of many women, and several repetitive trends that women as a whole seem to follow, in life, as well as love.

-

it honestly seems like a tremendous shame- you could be using your talents for something that would actually benefit the world but instead you choose to (of all things) display your thoughts ON THE INTERNET so that everyone can see them-

M. Goldstein, I would ask that you show me in one way (besides childbirth) that women are better than men before you ridicule this site. Simply because this sites premise isn’t politically correct, nor does it pander to womens “feelings”, doesn’t mean that it isn’t correct in the overall sense of the word.

now, obviously, if you wanted people to hear your opinions- that’s what you’d go and do-

I think thats what Mr. Masterson did.

so basically, anyone that comes across this site will know automatically that even though you are well educated

It seems that he is, regardless of his beliefs.

-you are still a moron-

Why the personal attacks?

simply because your views are prejudiced, and prejudice helps nothing or anyone and makes the world an awful place for countless amounts of people-

Prejudice isn’t a “bad” thing, it’s simply a part of life. How you use it could be construed as a “bad” thing. What about judicial prejudice? Simply because a Man or woman was convicted of theft several times, does that mean that He/she is a thief? Hmmm?

Even though I disagree with your views, I still would not blame you if you had them but merely kept them to yourself- you seem so sure of yourself- you seem as if you could never be convinced into thinking otherwise- so why do you crave support and adulation from anyone else?- it’s sad.

At least you’re cordial, and try to maintain civility. I appreciate that if no one else does.

-Strength and Honor-

hey- like I said- it wasn’t a wise idea for him to post his ideas on the internet- because although he will receive the benefit of suck-ups (not naming names…)- of whom he obviously craves- but he will also receive opposing opinions- since he is so strong and intellegent- I assumed he’d be able to handle opinions that arn’t living in harmony with his- but it seems all I get here is hissy fits. Maybe I should find a more prejudiced website to mess with- although, I should think that will be extremely difficult- but, it shouldn’t be to hard to find one that has people on it who can wage a better argument than the people on this site.

sonyad said:

I wonder why I’ve mostly been spared Roaring Woman’s scathing rants. Apart from never having a go at me she seems entirely indiscriminate, the way she snapped at Luka and all.

I hope I’m not negligible quantity all of a sudden.

Looks like Sonyad is begging for it.

seth goldstein said:

ah, she’s mad- if you make an offensive, discriminatory comment, of course she’s going to be mad at you- she’s a woman.

Marry her and fuck off the site.

ah, she’s mad- if you make an offensive, discriminatory comment, of course she’s going to be mad at you- she’s a woman.

Luka said:

Be careful what you wish for sonyad.

Amen.