Motive Means Nothing; or The Church of Feelings
If I gave $20,000 to an orphanage because I wanted orphans to be happy, a bunch of orphans would be happy and everyone would agree that I’m a fucking great guy.
If I gave $20,000 to an orphanage because I burned one to the ground when I was twelve and I feel guilty as shit about it, a bunch of orphans would be happy and everyone would agree that I’m a fucking great guy.
Welcome to the real world.
Motives don’t mean shit to orphans. Motives don’t mean shit to anyone. In fact, motives only mean something to those of us who have the luxury of falling vagina-first into money and never having to use our brains for anything but a hobby.
Those of us are called women, and those of us need to fuck off my website.
The reason it’s called a “man’s world” and not a “woman’s world” — or a “getting pregnant is as important as nuclear power and calculus world” — is because men understand that silly things like “intentions” don’t get you anywhere in this world.
If it was a “woman’s world”, intentions would get you everywhere. You could drive to the store on a gallon of “really wanting some Popsicles.” A world of intent is the she-topia of the modern woman. Not a single reason or consequence for anything, and especially no genitals.
With no genitals, women could walk around in the tightest little sweaters they wanted while still “not intending” to attract the occasional harmless grope. Big fucking deal. Someone grabbed your boobs. It’s not like you’re using them for anything.
Puppies grow up, unprotected sex won’t keep your hair from falling out, and intentions don’t mean shit. The sooner women realize the world doesn’t work the way they think it does, the sooner we can all stop paying for frivolous workplace harassment lawsuits.
It’s frivolous for women to be working. Therefore, it’s frivolous for there to be workplace harassment lawsuits.
The Church of Feelings
No religion cares about women because women all have their own religion. It’s called the Church of Feelings, and services start the moment a woman wakes up.
However a woman feels about something, that’s the way she remembers it happening. Women’s realities work in reverse. If a woman feels bad about wrecking the bumper on her SUV, then she didn’t mean to do it and history fucked up by not getting the memo. If a woman “tried her best”, then whatever it took fucked up by being too hard. If you disagree, it’s your fault for not remembering it properly. And if any of that sounds bitchy, then that’s your fault too because the woman who said it didn’t mean to sound like a bitch.
The world doesn’t care how you meant to act or how much money you meant to make. The world doesn’t care if you didn’t mean to fail.
Men enjoy failure. We enjoy being tested and we enjoy improving because of it. Sports are proof of this. Sports, inventions, sex, business, rock ‘n’ roll, climbing Everest, and every other thing in the entire fucking world are proof of this.
Men enjoy failure. It’s just too bad we’re not built for it.
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January 19th, 2008 at 3:31 am - IP Man-Hash: bf1f8818f8ec7
All laws are man-made. You keep believing, I’ll keep evolving.
January 19th, 2008 at 7:11 am - IP Man-Hash: fd5cd69179bd1
A guy who kills someone (or some people) because his car spun out of control on a patch of black ice is not as culpable as the Boston Strangler or Son of Sam.
Why is this so hard to understand?
There’ s a big difference between accidents and purposeful acts. And they should be treated differently.
If someone accidentally steps on your foot at a crowded bar and says sorry, you’ll probably excuse it. If someone goes out of his way to step on your foot and then says sorry in a sarcastic tone, you’ll probably react treat those two situations differently. As well you should.
January 19th, 2008 at 7:36 am - IP Man-Hash: 0facc02199a67
Awoman. What you are describing is common sense.
However, what happens in reality is quite the opposite.
A man has consensual sex with a 15 year old girl and he does serious jail time with the threat of anal penetration from violent criminals.
A woman has consensual sex with a 15 year old boy and there are tons of rationalizations similar to what you are describing in your post to explain her actions.
A man shoots his wife for leaving him, taking the kids and slapping him with huge payments and he is a monster destined for life or the chair.
A woman shoots her husband for whatever reason and scads of psychiatrists are explaining why her humanity forced her to do it and she walks free after a short stay in an uncrowded mental facility.
A man goes homeless due to bad decisions/circumstances and he is a bum, a loser and less likely to get any sympathy.
A woman goes homeless for any reason and the church rallies to support her, people pitch in and find her the resources she needs.
These are just examples but you get my drift.
January 19th, 2008 at 12:46 pm - IP Man-Hash: fd5cd69179bd1
detached-
I’m sure there are examples to support some of what you said, but all I can think of is the adage that if all you’ve got is a hammer, everything’s a nail.
Anecdotal evidence is unreliable. Show me some cold facts-from an unbiased source (not from “studies” done by the Men’s Right Network or We-Hate-Women Center or whatever). And I’ll listen.
But just throwing out random things isn’t convincing.
Oh, and incidentally, shooting your wife for leaving you-even if she takes the kids- is *not* justifiable. It is violent and unreasonable.
January 19th, 2008 at 12:51 pm - IP Man-Hash: fd5cd69179bd1
You’re in the service. If you shoot a terrorist in Iraq, you get praised. If you shoot your pizza delivery man because he’s 15 minutes late, you go to jail.
In each case, a man dies because you shot him. You should know more than most people on this forum that there is a time and a place to use a gun and a time and place to refrain from shooting.
January 19th, 2008 at 2:07 pm - IP Man-Hash: eeb32e3dc6874
Awoman I think you missed the point of what Detached was trying to say. I don’t think he needs to find unbiased sources to back up his argument in that post. You and I both know what he said in that post was true. Those are common things we hear of over and over every day.
I find it odd that the part of the husband shooting the wife struck a cord and you felt the need to address it. On the other hand you didn’t mention her shooting him.
January 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pm - IP Man-Hash: 388d4a7a25ab0
Once again, Dick has proven just how much of a dick he really is.
January 19th, 2008 at 3:16 pm - IP Man-Hash: 55548152be297
So what the fuck does that have to do with ‘Intentions’? I wouldn’t shoot anybody for the fuck of it. I shoot overseas because I’m ordered to not because I ‘intend’ to slow a terrorist down. I intend to kill him.
January 19th, 2008 at 3:16 pm - IP Man-Hash: 720a12647a390
Do you have a rational basis for this opinion, or it rather just another pointless “feeling” that you felt need to express, hmm?
January 19th, 2008 at 3:40 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1e08d05b14a8a
“Ray”, this site is for men only, so fuck off.
January 19th, 2008 at 3:44 pm - IP Man-Hash: 1e08d05b14a8a
Shooting a woman because she’s trying to steal your house and half your income is entirely justifiable. It’s self defense.
There are probably bad reasons for shooting a woman, but I can’t think of any.
January 19th, 2008 at 4:06 pm - IP Man-Hash: df8a37f402a4d
Feelings are a lot like Brain Farts.. Nothing more can be expected from the splitarses. Women/Girls just say anything at all
January 20th, 2008 at 10:27 am - IP Man-Hash: fd5cd69179bd1
No. I don’t know that what he said was true. I mean, I’m sure that there are examples out there, but I sincerely doubt that those are the rules and not the exceptions. I’m waiting for hard evidence that those examples are the rules.
It reminds me of that joke about the kid who was born with no eye so he bought a wood eye. He goes to the prom, looks around, and doesn’t see anyone he would feel comfortable asking to dance. Finally he sees a girl with a peg leg and asks her to dance. Delighted, she says, “Would I? Would I?”
He runs from her, shouting, “Peg leg! Peg leg!”
If you looking for examples where a certain group is treated unfairly, you’ll find them. That doesn’t mean the discrimination is universal.
Beyond that, he didn’t give a real example of why a woman would shot her husband. If a woman shots her husband because he didn’t take the trash out, that is sick and wrong and she should be punished. If she shoots him because he’s trying to bash her head in with a hammer and he’s six inches away with hammer in hand and has already taken swipes at her screaming he’s going to kill her, then it’s justifiable.
The pathetic excuse given for shooting a wife did strike a cord with me. Violence-especially killing-should be a last resort, and there’s nothing in the excuse he gave that couldn’t be resolved in a court of law.
January 20th, 2008 at 10:36 am - IP Man-Hash: fd5cd69179bd1
@anchorite.
Killing a woman because she’s divorcing you is wrong. Really, really wrong.
Self-defense is invoked when you are trying to physically save your life from an immediate danger that could cause seriously bodily harm.
That’s all I’m going to say about it to you because I don’t like discussing things with people whose moral compass is so completely out of whack.
January 20th, 2008 at 11:54 am - IP Man-Hash: 1834017c3a358
Women always think self-defense is wrong, if it’s a man defending himself against a woman.
January 20th, 2008 at 12:36 pm - IP Man-Hash: 0a379370a5fd8
Score -137 there Awoman.
Fight- To beat the shit out of an opponent.
Female Fight- To whine until opposition stops.
Not even the same ballfield.
Morality- Doing what is right, irregardless of how hard it is (like honor).
Female Morality- Doing what is right AS LONG AS it isn’t hard. (addendum- Contains more whining)
Killing a Female who is Divorcing you? Only a woman wouldn’t get WHY that would happen. And only a female would say it “wasn’t that bad an act”.
Of course not, they are not the ones losing their LIVES to a skank taking your paychecks and kids.
Please, don’t speak of Divorces ever again, you know obviously not of what you speak. I grant that you are a woman and wouldn’t see the REAL forest because of the trees, and that is why Divorce, Marriage and Speaking should be off-limits to you. YOUR simplicity shows why women are not good leaders.
‘Wrong’ is when I punch you in the face for the hell of it. Then again ‘Right’ is punching you in the face when you act like a man and try to fight me like one. ‘Wrong’ is thinking you are somehow my equal in the arena of ANY game, especially life, and ‘Right’ is me only putting someone weaker out of my way so normal shit can get done.
No, killing, like philosophy, is a Mans-Area ONLY type of thing.
We invented it, please leave it to the experts to take care of it.
MY moral compass is easy: You do stupid shit, you must pay for it.
I don’t need the law to protect ME, little girl. I am, after all, the one that created it. The ‘Law’ was always intended for the weaker, NOT the stronger. If only you dumbass women ever really did understand that the Law is designed for after the killings, and not pro-active, would women understand how great men are, because WE hold OURSELVES in abeyance BEFORE we kill you for running your mouth.
Actually, part of the most physical violence you are seeing now against women is because men are fed up with the bullshit of the so-called Law stepping where not wanted, so they ratchet up the anger machine and do what they can PRIOR to the Law stepping in.
In other words, women fucked up the Law Game, and changed the rules, so now men fuck those women up BEFORE the Law steps in to do anything.
Do I blame them? Hell no. How about I took away YOUR rights to take a shit on a Sunday at 2PM without me being present. SAME EXACT THING.
You would simply go break the law to get it done, and when you were tired of it enough, you would beat the fuck out of the ONE person who was 15 foot away who happens to be a representative of those SAME assholes that fucked it all up…………..
Killing- REAL world definition. Getting tired of someone and putting them in a hole permanent like. Creating worm-food. Pre-dates whoring, simply because you had to kill someone before you could go whoring………..
Murder- REAL world defintion. Sneaking up on some asshole and making them sleep with the fishes. They never saw it coming. Pre-dates killing, because that is the only way women will shut the fuck up, you have to sneak up on them first……………..
January 20th, 2008 at 12:46 pm - IP Man-Hash: 0a379370a5fd8
Oops. Let me clarify:
“Killing” as defined by gender.
Women- Killings are “wrong”. Of course, they didn’t invent, don’t do it, and when they do, fuck it up because they are too weak to understand the usefullness of a………killer……….tool. If I didn’t kill, YOU would still be a third class citizen, right behind my dog.
Men- Something to do when you get really pissed off. Righteous type of pissed. World-Changing type of pissed. Killing is the great equalizer. All men understand that all women don’t get killing, but then again, the cow I kill for steaks doesn’t get it either.
Is killing right? Easy, did the situation need it? Was it worth it? Does the world smell better? Did it “equalize” the problem, or make it go away?
Nothing harder than that.
Having Killers and Killing is like bread and air ladies. If you didn’t have them, and didn’t need them, your lazy ass would be sitting on muddy riverbank somewhere with 14 kids, living in a hut bitching about how a bunch of bastards who went out “killing” to stop the other bastards from “killing” YOU………..
As always, a history book and the ability to UNDERSTAND (not just read) would stop your stupidity from re-occuring. However, as it might be pointed out, the stupid only keep doing stupid things because they won’t learn, and won’t look at the History of Being Stupid……..
January 20th, 2008 at 1:17 pm - IP Man-Hash: fd5cd69179bd1
Only a weakling would fail to understand the difference between life and money.
Your victim mentality limits you, more than you realize. Well, that and your utter stupidity.
But, as with the other psycho who thinks that’s okay to kill a woman who divorces him, I have no interest in continuing this discussion further.
January 20th, 2008 at 2:04 pm - IP Man-Hash: 720a12647a390
@Awoman:
I personally do not condone killing that is not sanctioned in a legal manner. But then, that is the definition of murder to my mind, the illegal slaying of another person, and murder is one such crime which has traditionally resulted in the endorsed “killing” of the perpetrator.
I will put to you this question however:
Would, to your emotional mind, a woman be as equally criminal if she killed a man who’d perpetrated the ultimate act of betrayal was taking away her children (perhaps never to be seen again), holding her livelihood to ransom by way of her children (so that she had to work overtime, two jobs perhaps, in order to meet the demands on her for supporting those children she rarely if ever gets to see and not be tossed into jail for being a “deadbeat”) and in addition stole her home, her car, most of her bank balance, tossed her in the street, and rather than defending her fair and equitably the “court of law” you mention as being the venue to sort this matter out instead applauded this situation and congratulated that man’s efforts with welfare payments. Can you see a woman being irrationally enraged by this? Can you see such an irrationally enraged woman, were it within her power to do so, acting out on that irrational anger vindictively? I think if you say no, all women would be content, then you are a liar.
It’s not a simplistic matter of ‘only being about the money’ as I believe you have tried to brush it away with. That man’s life is destroyed, his entire reality is torn apart, he has no security yet immense responsibility, and has lost his beloved children to the perpetrator of this lawful yet despicable act. While I do not at all condone it, I do understand it. Yet since motive is only important to women, were I in the panel of 12 peers I would still hand down a conviction.
As for your accusation earlier regarding anecdotal evidence, you’ve not been living in the same world as the rest of western society if you truly believe that women are not condoned their poor actions with less conviction for emotional reasons of motive which turn justice toward sympathy, and vastly lesser penalties when actually convicted of the same crime. I’m not going to entertain your call for more than anecdotal evidence, I instead challenge you to read any number of government agency or educational institute funded studies regarding this phenomena and then continue to say it isn’t so. Any evidence you find where this is not the case is truly anecdotal exception to the norm.
January 20th, 2008 at 2:53 pm - IP Man-Hash: 8c990b50515ba
Fuck of from this site!