Michael said:

Oh jesus, you called me a fuckwit, now I’m hurt. The IP man hash system on this site has a few flaws, bud. Sometimes it registers different IPs under the one registry..gasp. Now either Dick also does that deliberately or he can blame it all on his spam filter. A tradesman never blames his tools. He’s fucking bogus.

Odd how you’re the only person to make this claim. Sure it’s not you who’s the bogus one?

Oh jesus, you called me a fuckwit, now I’m hurt. The IP man hash system on this site has a few flaws, bud. Sometimes it registers different IPs under the one registry..gasp. Now either Dick also does that deliberately or he can blame it all on his spam filter. A tradesman never blames his tools. He’s fucking bogus.

Michael said:-loyal Joan supporter

LMFAO! ok, for those of you who missed it - Joan Exposed.

Zardoz said:
Joan is nothing but a lying piece of shit and a deliberately annoying troll. Her sole purpose is to spam up the boards with drivel that no man would want to read, so that other men will turn away from reading comments and leaving their own. Here’s just a small handful of examples of why:

J said: I’ll shut the fuck up when morons like you are speechless.

Clearly stated intent.

Joan said: I was never a feminist

You weren’t? Hmm..

Joan said: Us older women had no idea nor intention of creating a bunch of money sucking lazy young women out of this. Younger women have no respect for what I fought for. They do not work like I did. They don’t want to be strong nor independent like I am. The younger women all get pregnant to snag a man and all want to stay at home. We created little monisters by accident, this was not our original intention 30 years ago.

Yes, you were, feminist.

Joan said:I had to work as a secretary and work my way up in law firms.

Joan said:Now, that was intimidating, my being a clerical worker

Ok, so you worked for 25 years as a secretary.

Joan said: I am going to college at the age of 50, putting myself through college

Joan said: I’m working towards my 4 year degree in political science

Joan said: I’m taking an online women’s history class in college.

Joan said: If I do volunteer work for years, one day it comes back to me by making the Dean’s List.

Wait on.. Volunteer work?? I thought you were earning 60k per year as a legal secretary.
By the way, as for your pride over being on “the national dean’s list” I’ll refer you to this:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070406191033AA1t7E1
Sucker. Best you look up the word SCAM in your dictionary.

J said: Awww…you’re just jealous because my friends and I don’t spend our time having the female-equivalent of dick-measuring contests.

You don’t?

Joan said: Well, here’s the problem I have with it. All these men hit on me because I’m the only woman up here who doesn’t cut her hair off like a man, doesn’t get fat, doesn’t hate myself because I worked, doesn’t wear baggy men’s clothes so that the men never think about sex. These women have the men totally trapped, they don’t care that their husbands are all miserable. All they care about is the cash keeps coming in, and they are really mean to me. The women want me to move back to SF, they all say they are afraid I will steal their husbands.

Joan said: They just tell me do not steal my husband. I can’t get through to blood sucking, unintelligent, no self-esteem bitches who have never even worked a day in their life. They are so mean to me that they say I am anorexic, they steal my shopping cart in the store, they purposely smash into me, they say, “well, I’m so glad I don’t have to look nice anymore, who do these women think they are that want to look nice when they are older.” The women only speak to me if a man is talking to me. Even then, they will not speak to me, only to the man I am talking to in order to prove that their short, grey haired, cellulite legged stupid asses are more attractive than I am.

Joan said: If I gave up everytime a women was jealous of me, I would be hopeless. I just suck it up and keep going no matter what anyone says or does.

Sounds like the female equivalent is vasty more sadistic and personal.

Joan said: Go fuck yourself. He lied to me. He’s the one who is married, not me.

Zoe said: wow this made me cry, I hope I haven’t failed my boyfriend so much as to make him feel this way about me. I appologize for my gender. I wish you liked us just a little

johnson said: I do see what you are saying,and most women are out for the take.Most men are that way too so,what are you going to do ? I,m paying my ex too the only thing is that I,m a woman.

Jaymen said: I would love for my husband a REAL MAN, that has two little girls , have a few minutes alone with you to clear up a few things!

Yes, it would be interesting to have a few things cleared up. Such as, the truth.

J said:…after all, you run out of shit to say when you’ve got NOTHING WORTH HEARING!

If that were true you’d have shut the fuck up about 6 months ago.

So once again I must reiterate…

Zardoz said:

Michael said: Joan, I hear what you are saying and it all rings true

It would to you fuckwit.

IP man-hash. What a wonderful tool for digging out HORSE-SHIT.

Dick Masterson said:
Most “deleted” posts were incorrectly snagged by the spam filter. They get there because said commenters abuse their IP addresses on other sites.

-Dick

Well you guys can believe whatever you choose but my IP is not blocked on any other site, nor has it ever been. The only site that has occurred on, is this one. Can’t imagine why, I’m not ruining your fun with the ladies right now.

-loyal Joan supporter

BrokenJohnny said:

Ah, yes, I often hear that people have their posts edited and deleted whenever they make strong arguments. Yet, none seem to be able to provide any proof.

It seems to me that if you actually had any REAL points to make about this site, you would also have the intelligence to prove the fact that you are being moderated.

After all, I do it in feminist sites all the time.

Its a simple matter of taking the right screen shots. But you need to take the picture is such a way so that no one will say you edited it in photoshop. Its best to take a picture of your face, or even your hand, infront of part of the screen, so you are able to prove what you wrote, and when you wrote it.

Then, you wait for it to be deleted, host the picture on a file site, and prove to everybody that you have infact been censored.

I am not saying that Dick DOESNT delete posts here. But I will say that it wouldnt make any sense. He barely moderates the forums, and I severly doubt he has the time to sift through endless streams of comments in hopes of finding a coherent argument.

Actually Glenn Sacks’ blog had an interaction with a feminist blog - feministing I think - a couple of weeks ago relating to campus rape hysteria. It was good to see the feminists haven’t changed. It makes them such an easy target.

BrokenJohnny said:

I am not saying that Dick DOESNT delete posts here. But I will say that it wouldnt make any sense. He barely moderates the forums, and I severly doubt he has the time to sift through endless streams of comments in hopes of finding a coherent argument.

Most “deleted” posts were incorrectly snagged by the spam filter. They get there because said commenters abuse their IP addresses on other sites.

-Dick

The mention of Bangkok (somewhere below) prompts me to add that this is possibly the only man’s town left on the planet, and all you US males sick to the bridgework of your whining, overweight, issue-obsessed native women should get out there tomorrow. You’ll have sex with fantastic-looking, young, expert, and willing hookers for pocket change. They’ll be happy to make your wildest dreams come true. And you will never, ever, look at a western woman (or FWC - Fat White Cunt - as they’re known out here) with anything else but disgust again. Don’t worry about HIV - universal use of condoms has seen incidences of all STDs plummet. I’m not kidding - get a fucking passport, get on a fucking plane to fucking Bangkok, get a fucking room close to Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy, and get fucking.

I think it’s more likely these fuckwits who think their posts were deleted simply cannot find them amid the pages and pages of spam posts, or via the IP Man-Hash owing to the fact they’ve made posts from different IP addresses. Either from work, by proxy connection, or their ISP put them on an alternate addy during maintenance, etc.

Spurious accusations in an attempt to discredit the openness of this websites pages, and to pretend these clowns actually had anything logical to contribute. Just fuck off.

Ah, yes, I often hear that people have their posts edited and deleted whenever they make strong arguments. Yet, none seem to be able to provide any proof.

It seems to me that if you actually had any REAL points to make about this site, you would also have the intelligence to prove the fact that you are being moderated.

After all, I do it in feminist sites all the time.

Its a simple matter of taking the right screen shots. But you need to take the picture is such a way so that no one will say you edited it in photoshop. Its best to take a picture of your face, or even your hand, infront of part of the screen, so you are able to prove what you wrote, and when you wrote it.

Then, you wait for it to be deleted, host the picture on a file site, and prove to everybody that you have infact been censored.

I am not saying that Dick DOESNT delete posts here. But I will say that it wouldnt make any sense. He barely moderates the forums, and I severly doubt he has the time to sift through endless streams of comments in hopes of finding a coherent argument.

Muzalon said:

I’m starting to sense ‘uninformed liberal thick cunt’ about you, Boring… Let’s keep going in that direction…

Add lesbian bull-dike to that description.

@Bored- Go be bored somewhere else…OK.

Bored said:

gwallan said:

I don’t need anybody’s sympathy or shoulder to cry on. I’ve done the things I need to do for myself.

What I want now is for people to be learn that much of the bad stuff men do to women comes about because of bad stuff done by women. And so on.

For example….

A quarter of child sexual abuse is committed by women against boys who have subsequent problems as bad as, if not worse than, female victims of men. Two thirds to three quarters of the men who go to prison for aggressive rapes have been molested by women in their earlier lives. Partly due to cultural blindness and partly due to feminist based advocacy the female offender remains mostly invisible, their victims are mocked by our culture and nobody - including the legal system - takes it seriously. Ever wonder why some of those brutal rapes of women occur? Ever consider where the anger those rapists demonstrate actually comes from? Feminism would have you believe they are typical men behaving as the “patriarchy” demands.

I said to you elsewhere that our society, thanks to feminism, views sexism as working in only one direction. Unfortunately a focus on only one half of an equation leads to half-arsed solutions.

I’d be very interested to see the source of your facts & figures, would you be so kind as to share ?

Hint - you won’t find figures about this in Cosmo, Boring. You might find ‘proof’ that 99% of ‘all’ women had 1000 orgasms last Tuesday, culled from a survey using 0.00000001% of all white, urban, upper-middle class women… but very little credible research.

I’m starting to sense ‘uninformed liberal thick cunt’ about you, Boring… Let’s keep going in that direction…

Bored said:

I’d be very interested to see the source of your facts & figures, would you be so kind as to share ?

Try this from the UK as a starting point…

The Invisible Boy

I’ve accessed much of the research this lengthy work references - most of which isn’t online - and you should trust me when I say the article is conservative.

The proportion of rapists who have been abused themselves was originally brought to my attention by counsellors who work with prisoners and victims. My first thought was that many of the rapists concerned may have been lying as a way of mitigating their own crimes. When I suggested this the counsellors made it very firmly clear that they can tell the difference. In retrospect I realise that, given the invisibilty of male victims and female offenders, there’s really no reason for those rapists to make the claim in the first place. I went off to research it on my own leading to my finding the UK site I’ve linked here and a few others including the Australian based ASCA which I am shortly to become a part of.

Kelly B. said:

I’ll admit I didnt realize 1/4 of sexual abuse was caused by women… and you’re right, society does mask it. I actually feel bad for a lot of people in jail because as a Psychology major you learn that people behave in certain ways for certain reasons. I don’t think it’s right for either sex to molest anyone though. I don’t really pay attention to a lot of the feminist stuff though, I don’t go to feminist sites, take feminist courses, read feminist literature… I just try to see people for who they.

Until about six years ago I was a borderline radical feminist. When I started taking a serious interest in sexual assault I learned very quickly how much feminist thinking has distorted the whole issue.

Most of the current advocacy and many of the services have their origins in the feminist rape activism of the late seventies(I participated in some of it very much in denial of my own experiences). That activism came from rather extreme elements of the movement. To many of them the issue was an opportunity to both demonise men and create even more chivalrous sympathy for women. They saw their demographic as female and therefore saw only male offenders.

Perhaps the best thing I can do is reproduce the guts of an email I sent to an interested journo recently…

Allow me to demonstrate the “closed loop” that operates to continue the invisibility of the male victim of heterosexual abuse. Bear in mind that these are approximately a quarter of underage victims.

- Western culture has always denied the existence of the female sexual predator.

- Feminist activism forms the basis of almost all advocacy on the issue of sexual abuse. (Personally I understand their one sidedness as their targeted demographic is female victims who are almost exclusively abused by males.) It is consequently portrayed as a manifestation of the patriarchy(”rape culture”). The female offender is never acknowledged which feeds into and enhances the larger cultural denial.

- Despite acknowledgement within the medical, psychological and counselling communities that boys are at least as harmed by the experience as girls our culture remains largely ignorant of this and, thus, indifferent. Widely held views are that boys should consider themselves lucky or even privileged. The general concensus seems to be that no harm is done.

- The media refuses to give it it’s true name prefering to use terms such as “affair” or “relationship” in reporting these cases. They also tend to be far more forgiving of the female offender and frequently try to make their excuses for them.

- Community standards, influenced by the intersection of advocacy, media and the judicial system’s lenient treatment of female offenders, have no encouragement to change.

- The courts, operating properly as a reflection of community standards, go much easier on female heterosexual abusers.

The problem I face is in finding ways of breaking the linkages in these intersecting influences. Too often I feel as though I’m the only one who cares.

Do with this what you will but I urge you to be very sceptical about anything you hear about sexual or physical/domestic abuse that comes from any feminist underpinning.

gwallan said:

I don’t need anybody’s sympathy or shoulder to cry on. I’ve done the things I need to do for myself.

What I want now is for people to be learn that much of the bad stuff men do to women comes about because of bad stuff done by women. And so on.

For example….

A quarter of child sexual abuse is committed by women against boys who have subsequent problems as bad as, if not worse than, female victims of men. Two thirds to three quarters of the men who go to prison for aggressive rapes have been molested by women in their earlier lives. Partly due to cultural blindness and partly due to feminist based advocacy the female offender remains mostly invisible, their victims are mocked by our culture and nobody - including the legal system - takes it seriously. Ever wonder why some of those brutal rapes of women occur? Ever consider where the anger those rapists demonstrate actually comes from? Feminism would have you believe they are typical men behaving as the “patriarchy” demands.

I said to you elsewhere that our society, thanks to feminism, views sexism as working in only one direction. Unfortunately a focus on only one half of an equation leads to half-arsed solutions.

I’d be very interested to see the source of your facts & figures, would you be so kind as to share ?

I’ll admit I didnt realize 1/4 of sexual abuse was caused by women… and you’re right, society does mask it. I actually feel bad for a lot of people in jail because as a Psychology major you learn that people behave in certain ways for certain reasons. I don’t think it’s right for either sex to molest anyone though. I don’t really pay attention to a lot of the feminist stuff though, I don’t go to feminist sites, take feminist courses, read feminist literature… I just try to see people for who they.

Kelly B. said:

@Gwallen-
I’m sorry to hear about that… what you said WAY up above. I think there is too much hate based on whether someone is male or female though… I think we need to look at people on an individual basis. There are some pretty shitty females out there… that is forsure… which might be why I seem to get along better with males… BUT I have known some pretty shitty males too… pedophiles, abortionists, rapists, drug dealers, etc… anywho… I am just tired of fighting over this whole issue… but if you ever need someone to talk to about things, I’m a good listener… I’m been through shit too and I’m a psychology major… bye.

I don’t need anybody’s sympathy or shoulder to cry on. I’ve done the things I need to do for myself.

What I want now is for people to be learn that much of the bad stuff men do to women comes about because of bad stuff done by women. And so on.

For example….

A quarter of child sexual abuse is committed by women against boys who have subsequent problems as bad as, if not worse than, female victims of men. Two thirds to three quarters of the men who go to prison for aggressive rapes have been molested by women in their earlier lives. Partly due to cultural blindness and partly due to feminist based advocacy the female offender remains mostly invisible, their victims are mocked by our culture and nobody - including the legal system - takes it seriously. Ever wonder why some of those brutal rapes of women occur? Ever consider where the anger those rapists demonstrate actually comes from? Feminism would have you believe they are typical men behaving as the “patriarchy” demands.

I said to you elsewhere that our society, thanks to feminism, views sexism as working in only one direction. Unfortunately a focus on only one half of an equation leads to half-arsed solutions.

@Gwallen-
I’m sorry to hear about that… what you said WAY up above. I think there is too much hate based on whether someone is male or female though… I think we need to look at people on an individual basis. There are some pretty shitty females out there… that is forsure… which might be why I seem to get along better with males… BUT I have known some pretty shitty males too… pedophiles, abortionists, rapists, drug dealers, etc… anywho… I am just tired of fighting over this whole issue… but if you ever need someone to talk to about things, I’m a good listener… I’m been through shit too and I’m a psychology major… bye.

Michael said:

Well you’re wrong Mate, Dick has and does moderate, edit and remove posts that are well reasoned arguments against more of the stupider posts here.

If he’s done it to me, I can’t imagine how many women posts he’s also done this to. Clever deceit but ultimately disgraceful.

I can’t speak for Dick’s moderation policy.

I’ve been doing the rounds of gender based blogs and forums for about six years and have extensive usenet background.

Typically the non feminist websites don’t engage in that type of behaviour. It is mainly the provence of feminists. I suspect that given the numerous leaps of faith involved in adhering to the religion modern feminism has become do demand some purging take place to keep the heretics from the door.

Gay jokes? I can see that you are confused, yes, but I’d yet to say anything about that. You’ve jumped the shark, doubt. Only thing left to do is back away from the evil computer. Maybe you could call Joan or something.

Doubt said:

Ha ha. No.
Joan the teen mommy already pulled that shit. Fuck off.

You lost your virginity to Joan! Wow! Excellent choice! “Are you trying to seduce me, Mrs Robinson?” Best way to go, young man.

Did you keep and show off her panties to the French club in high school?