Soon, women will be completely redundant:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,648024,00.ht ml

Also, if you want to speak of bearing children in terms of working and gestating at the same time, they may well do in places like Afghanistan, where they know that everyone has to work for the family to survive, but our nice cushy western culture gives paid maternity leave and welfare. Very few fit the image you’re trying to present.

Michael said:

Zardoz said:

Funny, then why don’t they?

Have you been under a rock? Women already do. Even in Afghanistan, where the threat of death exists, women still work. Men can only do one task (work), not both (work and bear children). Men do one task less than women and even then they bitch about having to do it. No wonder women have no respect for you. Cry me a river.

Actually, I look at what they do rather than what they complain about having done, and from what I see, its bullshit. Raising children while theyre working? You mean giving their kids to daycare strangers then sitting them in front of the tv when they get home. Hmm, actually, I can see the crowning achievement of these single mothers whom diligently work, collect child support, and “raise” their children on their own. In the statistics Doubt has been parading all day. *snickers* how.. splendidly productive to society…

Sgt. Reyes said:

Unless you consider multi-tasking double penetration, in which case yes. Women can handle getting double fucked.

- Sgt. Reyes

Ooh, that’s got to hurt! Ha ha, this little trannie got her pasty ass handed to her on a silver platter.

So what you’re saying is that women are not allowed to do housework or grow food. Yeah, you may want to stick to one topic, because when you keep posting from one to the next it makes it look as though you’re running from something.
By the way, Michelle, did you really think you could throw us off for one second? You do know that your golden pussy complex is just making you look like even more of a bimbo than you already are.
As stated previously, I think I’ll go for the quiet shell of a girl over the spiteful bitchy fat ugly whore. Go binge up your lunch - no-fucking-wonder men don’t respect you in the slightest - you don’t deserve to be treated like garbage, just fucked and chucked. Of course, you don’t like that - and don’t worry, your occupation must be the worthiest one to be outsourced. I’m sure there’s a deep frier somewhere with your name on it, granted you drop this ingratitude shit.

Unless you consider multi-tasking double penetration, in which case yes. Women can handle getting double fucked.

- Sgt. Reyes

Michael said:

Zardoz said:

Funny, then why don’t they?

Have you been under a rock? Women already do. Even in Afghanistan, where the threat of death exists, women still work. Men can only do one task (work), not both (work and bear children). Men do one task less than women and even then they bitch about having to do it. No wonder women have no respect for you. Cry me a river.

Oh don’t even start with me and Afghanistan. I’ve been there. It’s no surprise the Men kept them from doing much at all. While women should never be FORCED to know their place, those women sure know how to shut the fuck up. More than I can say for the western woman.

Women know how to multi-task alright. This I agree with totally.

- Clean
- Cook
- Be a whore with the pool guy or neighbour
- Neglect their children

Sorry does ‘picking up the kids from school’ constitute as work? Add that to the list then.

Multi - task or Multi - talk? Women have nothing on Men. It only takes a day in our military to know that.

Is this Mangina still talking? Sic’em Zardoz!

Zardoz said:

Funny, then why don’t they?

Have you been under a rock? Women already do. Even in Afghanistan, where the threat of death exists, women still work. Men can only do one task (work), not both (work and bear children). Men do one task less than women and even then they bitch about having to do it. No wonder women have no respect for you. Cry me a river.

I think I’ll have to quote Dick on the reason for this one.. “It’s monkey shit.”

Michael said: No, it does not leave only those two positions for women. What it does mean though is that women, unlike, men, are actually capable of doing multiple tasks while are not. Women can both develop and deliver lives as well as work to support them. The same cannot be said of men. Women thus contribute far more to life and society than men simply based on their capacity.

Funny, then why don’t they? Capacity to do something is meaningless when nothing is done to prove the capacity. Its easier to collect child support from a father whom had no say in the matter and thought she was on birth control because she told his he was, than to go forth and be productive in society whilst raising their future socially inept, undisciplined drug addict or criminal.
If women can contribute so much to society, why aren’t they? Where are the resounding achievements that prove they were only being held back by patriarchal society now that those boundaries (never, actually, but that’s a different matter) no longer exist? Now that women are free to raise their wings and fly like eagles, why do they still mostly look like turkeys?

Well, I’ve already given you the numbers. Perhaps some pretty pictures would be more appropriate - as you still seem unable to grasp the fact that degrading men under a transsexual alias is just dumb.
So… these teen mommies here:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/dc/Mirror196.jpg
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Meandsuzana.jpg
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Katie_Rees3.jpg
(Once again, you girly-girls really need to shut the fuck up about the whole gay thing when it has been proven that sheltered pasty little girly-girls are all closet homosexuals. That alone proves how stupid girly-girls are in their continued posting - as though they were somehow weakening our beliefs by proving them. I suppose bitches aren’t quite all that good at the whole thinking part of life.)
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Paris_nicole.jpg
(Michelle, how’s the whole ‘men are gay’ thing working for your vanilla cause?)
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/images/2/29/Pregnant_slut.jpg
(What was that about being better parents? I mean, even when she has a thin flap of skin separating the baby from the world, she can’t lay off the cock and crack)
Made the life. Period - they gave life just like any amoeba could do (what a load of feminist horseshit). Of course, then you turn around and scream at her one-night stand to ‘man up’ and take care of ‘his’ baby. You’re just looking brighter and brighter, aren’t you - I mean, let alone the fact that you are incapable of even grasping how absurd and superficial your claims are. That’s called emotional reasoning, honeybuns.
HAHAHA, those bitches are better than me in any possible way. Oh, shit, I’m going to bust an aneurysm! Oh, bitch please, I know, the world won’t miss me I’m a wart blah blah blah - you just talk like that because nobody has punched you in your mouth yet. It’s really a good way to acquire life-lessions, teaches you not to talk about masturbation in public places or to fondle your privates and act surprised when you catch a few leers.
However, so too could a test tube if you feminists shut the fuck up and sat down while the people with brains got the work done. Pretty much, you could say that the womb is becoming obsolete - by your own logic stating that babymaking is somehow a valid excuse for being a parasite.
It looks like our little ungrateful bitches are just looking better and better - really, I’m just rushing out and LOOKING for those real women out there! I love bitches who burst out laughing, baring their horse-teeth and double-chins at their own abortion and cock jokes. I wouldn’t fuck a bitch who knows she’s dumb as shit hence to shut up when the adults are talking - no, I want a whore who has some fucking vendetta against the very men who enable her spoiled existence.

@ Fish Sticks Sushi Britches
And you should heed the advice as well, stupid.

I notice you speak and say jack or shit.
I on the other hand, contain greatness, while you only contain pure shit and a vagina. Both of with you speak with, too damned much.

Zardoz said:

I’m also amused as you have confessed that all men are good for is constructively working, providing, and gathering resources. Which leaves for women only the positions of pregnant and parasitic as being what they are “good for”. Even I have never, nor would ever, go so far as to say that about women. It amuses me greatly that you have though.</blockquote

No, it does not leave only those two positions for women. What it does mean though is that women, unlike, men, are actually capable of doing multiple tasks while are not. Women can both develop and deliver lives as well as work to support them. The same cannot be said of men. Women thus contribute far more to life and society than men simply based on their capacity.

Michael also forgot men raise children better than women.

@Michael:
Oddly, I could assert that the argument of gestation being the giving of life is more “underhanded, pro-choicer, sleight of hand, double-talk” if I wanted to try galvanise existing polar opinion regarding abortion to support my argument, but quite simply abortion is not the issue at hand. Nor do I have any need for support from another argument for my own to be valid.
Your redundant argument about how well a foetus would survive without gestation is as relevant as asking how long you would survive being stripped of access to oxygen, food and water.
Your assertion:

Michael said:
A more logical argument would be that the father helps to turn a cell in the woman’s body into a parasite upon her, and the mother gives that parasite an independent life.

Is not a more logical argument, it is simply a reiteration of my own argument with enough spin through the term “parasite” to make it seem sinister and attempting to claim my argument for yourself. A reworded form of my statement counters nothing whatsoever.
Also there is no “helping” involved, unless you are speaking of the process which extracts the man’s semen. She does nothing whatsoever to that egg during the moment of conception, it is all the work of the sperm that reaches and penetrates it to cause fertilization. Again, once the cells divide the ovum is no longer an egg, life has begun.

On a side note, regarding your statement here:

Fathers get stuck with providing food, shelter, clothing, and the far greater part of financial resources to the child.

Ha, and so they fucking should cause they can’t do anything else.

on one hand I am appalled that you have basically disclosed your true feminist prejudice against men and disclosed your gender as female once and for all, but on the other hand I’m also amused as you have confessed that all men are good for is constructively working, providing, and gathering resources. Which leaves for women only the positions of pregnant and parasitic as being what they are “good for”. Even I have never, nor would ever, go so far as to say that about women. It amuses me greatly that you have though.

@King Wang you said
” Being stupid AND speaking publicly neither help your obviously abnormal views, or let anyone take you seriously.”
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you should heed your own advice

What? I can’t read your incoherent ramblings King Wang. Maybe try again when you’re sober. Here’s another thought. Pissed idiots should stay off the internet.

Wow. So Mikey the Gimp digs deep into utter physiological science to only prove a viewpoint that makes no sense, like his point of view.

Little Known Secret: Men PLUS Women = Children.

All you are doing is going into semantic detail to try to prove a point that is obviously flawed. By your own agreement, you are full of shit, as you are NOW pushing to prove the point that a Womans’ part in shitting a kid out is MORE important!

Beautiful. Fascism is easy fuckhead, how about you step up the “having an argument” part.

Life - Me and a Woman. NOT you whining about who is more important, like a typical female would do. Without me, no life exists, but I suspect as a hermaphrodite, your sub-species would somehow continue to exist.

Sweet. You are tearing up your own argument by saying women are better than men. Anyone? Yeah, we all get it. Go away, Mangina’s and Butch Lesbians convince of their own………sub-standard mediocrity in the greatness of life and debate is obviously not wanted nor needed.

Plus, you are just fucking stupid, so that constitutes shutting the hell up right there. Being stupid AND speaking publicly neither help your obviously abnormal views, or let anyone take you seriously.

And a woman laying on her back to get pregnant, and then for 4-6 months (in this day and age) only means that these bastard fathers get to pay for it, since after all, she is only laying on her back and not getting much done.

Hate to say it genius, wars, history and building shit doesn’t wait on fat women who are pregnant.

Zardoz, your entire argument rests on what you mean by “life”. You seem to be under the assumption that only men can give life. If this is correct then the unfertilized ovum must therefore be considered to be dead material before the sperm comes along and regardless of the condition at that time of the women’s ability to carry a developing embryo to term. But even more importantly, your argument is not even an argument about who can give life, it is an argument over what constitutes life. You are suggesting that gestation plays no part in giving life, and that is nothing but underhanded, pro-lifer, sleight of hand, double-talk. Let’s see how long that egg would have life if it was removed from the mother giving it life, before it was ready to exist as a life on it’s own. Yeah. A more logical argument would be that the father helps to turn a cell in the woman’s body into a parasite upon her, and the mother gives that parasite an independent life.

Fathers get stuck with providing food, shelter, clothing, and the far greater part of financial resources to the child.

Ha, and so they fucking should cause they can’t do anything else.

Alex said:

I can understand your point in regards to the passive/active aspect of it, but sperm still doesn’t provide the ovum with life any more so than the ovum provides the sperm with life. Without each other, the egg is washed away and the sperm “dies”, I guess you would call it. Because the sperm takes a more active role, I’ll even give you that it has a larger role in creating life, but the woman’s egg is of course also necessary to create life. Also, some argue that independent life doesn’t begin until the moment of implantation (in the mother’s womb) as opposed to fertilization. And, as I said, the woman plays a larger role in the reproductive process, since a fertilized egg and eventual fetus can’t survive outside the womb. My real point was just that the “pregnancy card” has some validity as a physical advantage and contribution.

Sperm is never given life by an egg. Sperm actively fuses with an ovum to create life from the ovum. An instant later, the cell splits and life is developing. Everything else from then on is a factor of assistance. I might also point out that original statement already recognises gestation.