Child-Man in the Promised Land: Response
Recently myself and MenAreBetterThanWomen.com were mentioned in an article about the maturity of today’s twenty-something male culture. Since the article was written by a woman, not only was it petty, wish-washy, and wrong by a country mile; it was also focused entirely on marriage.
Marriage and a willingness to be married is not the definition of maturity. It’s actually the opposite. Unless screaming at the people you love because some pastries are two hours late is the benchmark of maturity. I’m pretty sure it isn’t, though the article didn’t mention either way.
Men are better than women at being 20. This holds today as much as it ever did — including in 1965. Here is my response to Child-Man in the Promised Land.
It sucks.
First of all, “child-man” is awkward. “Man-child” rolls off the tongue as smooth as man-silk. When you’re building a case against people who act a certain way — something called prejudice — it’s important to make your slur as catchy as possible.
The guiltiest a person can be is when they’re a catch phrase.
Kay Hymowitz defines a “child-man” as a modern young man who “hangs out in a hormonal limbo between adolescence and adulthood.” I’m pretty sure adult men want to fuck the shit out of Jessica Alba too, so I can say for certain that the modern twenty-something man is mired safely in hormonal adulthood.
But here’s something else. Did anyone else notice that Kay’s last name looks a lot like “Hymen”? Gross.
According to Kay Hymen-owitz, playing video games every night and laughing at fart jokes is a not only a lazy thing to do, it’s also the mark of a bad father and inattentive husband. This, she claims, is different to the young men of 1965 who allegedly aspired to nothing but fatherhood and bill paying.
“It’s 1965 and you’re a 26-year-old white guy. You have a factory job…you’re married…one kid…you’re an adult!” - Kay Hymowitz
In other words, today’s men no longer aspire to become anthropomorphic ATM’s.
Fred Flintstone

Fred Flintstone says more about the twenty-something male culture of 1965 than I ever could.
“Why can’t they invent something for us to marry instead of women?” - Fred Flintstone, circa 1960
That’s straight from the zeitgeist of an era. There is no difference in a general aversion to women and marriage between the men of today and the men of yesteryear — and the men of 10,000 BC. Marriage is fucked and stupid and women are annoying. Nothing is ever going to change that. Least of all video games and Maxim.
Remember the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo? I do because I’m a man and I remember all history — even the parts that make me look stupid. Women don’t remember any history — especially the parts that make them look stupid. That’s where most date rape stories come from. Remember that next time a woman opens her yap and starts inventing history on the fly.
A woman’s definition of history is exactly how badly she wishes the present was different. If she’s really fat and she really hates herself for it, then a woman will remember a time when beauty was radically different than it is currently. This was never the case. Fat broads were always the boner equivalent of shit-Kryptonite. Two hundred years from now, no one is going to look back at an iPod commercial and think everyone in the twentieth century was attracted to black silhouettes who could keep a groove.
If a woman feels cheated that her mother was happier being a wife than she’ll ever be as a journalist, she invents a halcyon past of chivalry absolving herself of all personal responsibility. Spend more time at the gym and less on your resumes, ladies. Prince Charming doesn’t care how fast you type.
Fred Flintstone is possibly the greatest cartoon father ever to live. But based on the above quote, Hymen-owitz would probably call him more of a nasty and bitter misogynist than she called me. It sounds to me like a degree in Cartoons and Cereal teaches you more than one in Journalism and Women’s Studies.
There is no such thing as the emergence of a “child-man”, and I’ll be fucked if some woman thinks she’s going to criticize today’s young men for anything. Men have a natural disdain for women and an understood “betterness” over them. That’s what happens when the thing you stick your dick in also happens to suck at everything. The Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo was the MenAreBetterThanWomen.com of the stone age.
Men: 1, Women: 0.
Video Games
Video games are a lot like a movie except you have to be smarter than a woman to figure out how to interact with them. That’s why women hate them. Video games are proof that men are smarter than women.
Have you ever seen a woman play a video game? She’ll just sit there staring stupidly at the television as her character dies or her guitar hero fails spectacularly. She won’t even mash the buttons. No matter how you spin it, inaction is the essence of failure. To a woman, video games are a mirror that reflect her soul.
Video games are a mark of immaturity? Hardly.
The video games men play are rated explicitly beyond the purchase of children. They’re violent and cruel and they should be. Men ourselves are violent and cruel. No woman was cruel enough to send millions of young men overseas in World War II to die in mustard gas and chemical infernos in order to save an entire race of people. No woman did, and no woman would have. Women can’t even leave abusive spouses, how the fuck could one have handled Hitler?
Just because something has “games” in it does not mean it’s childlike and simple. “Women” has “men” in it, but that doesn’t mean they’re worth more than two shits in a diarrhea storm.
Men: 2, Women: 0.
Weddings
Making a list of things you want people to buy you is something children do. But when “grown-up” women do it, it’s called a Bridal Registry. And why the fuck do full grown adults need a seating chart? That’s childish.
A woman’s addiction to wedding fantasies starts strongly when she’s a child and become more obsessive and psychotic over time. Nothing about that resembles maturation. It’s the opposite. Women are the only creature on Earth that becomes less mature with experience.
Weddings are the ultimate in childishness. It’s a birthday party with two extra zero’s on the bill. Instead of birthday hats, a wedding has suits and gowns. Instead of a clown, a wedding has a priest and a string quartet. Instead of a spoiled brat, a wedding has a bride.
Men: 3, Women: 0.
Sex
Getting laid is the meaning of life. Everything else is garnish. Garnish for women so that they don’t have to feel like sex toys even though they are.
When it comes to the opposite sex, the only thing men are concerned about is getting busy as often and as cheaply and as nakedly as possible. And sex is so contrary to childishness that it’s illegal to do it with them. That’s called being a pedophile and it will get you on Dateline.
Men love sex and sex itself is so mature that children are barred from exposure to it. Whether it’s internet pornography or even swear words. That means if you like sex, you’re one mature motherfucker.
Hand holding, love poems, soul mates, and the childish bone meal that make up women’s delusions about sex are the fodder for school yard romance all around the world. Now who’s childish? Fucking women are childish.
Men: 4, Women: 0.
Baby Boomers
Today’s young men are free to fuck around because there are still a shit load of baby boomers around running the show. That’s the real truth of this issue. Maturity is like a gun. Just because you have it, doesn’t mean you have to use it. In fact, using it inappropriately will sometimes make you look like a humorless dick.
“[There's a] New Girl Order, hyperachieving in both school and an increasingly female-friendly workplace…” - Kay Hymenowitz
Hyper achieving women? How many women invented Google? The same number of women who’ve fucked me for free. None.
The fact is the new generation of men are holding up the internet with man-sized shoulders like a virtual Atlas. Women know nothing of what it takes to run a civilization and Kay Hymen-owitz is no different. Next time you need to attach a pdf to an email or a spreadsheet to a free porno website, who are you going to ask?
I’ll bet my cock it won’t be a young woman.
Furthermore, the workplace has always been female-friendly. Except these days, women think they don’t like getting slapped on the ass even though they really do. That’s called playing “hard to get”.
Men: 5, Women: 0.
Responsibility
“You wouldn’t know how to become an adult even if you wanted to? Maybe a beautiful princess will come along and show you.” -Kay Hymen-owitz
While I was on the Dr. Phil program sharing a single bathroom with 4 ladies — a fucking nightmare — Dr. Phil told me that all I needed was a good woman. I guess that makes Dr. Phil a raving misogynist and a perpetual child-man as well. Even if it’s true that this newage “child-man” needs only the love of a good woman to mature him like anti-free wine, that means precisely this:
There are no good women.
All women are cheating whores. At best they can be trained out of it, but really what’s the point? Pet ownership is a lot of work. Don’t forget that piece of advice if you do intend to do something stupid like get married.
Men: 6, Women: 0.
Single mothers
“…the plight of the single mothers means nothing to him” -Kay Hymen-owitz
There is no “plight of single mothers”. All a single mother has to do is open her legs and she’ll fall vagina first into money.
Single mothers are all either dumb or bitches. That’s how they end up single. Since whoring got them into the mess, it can certainly get them out.
Men: 7, Women: 0.
Manclusion
1965 wasn’t the end all be all of family structure. In the 1800’s every wealthy man had a mistress. Bill Gates would have had one for every night of the year.
“For the problem with child-men is that they’re not very promising husbands and fathers. They suffer from a proverbial “fear of commitment,” another way of saying that they can’t stand to think of themselves as permanently attached to one woman.”
Either that or said women are all total bitches. A fear of commitment is like a fear of loud noises. In one case, your brain is telling you to get the fuck off the train tracks or you’ll soon be wearing your ass as a hat. In the other case, your brain is telling you to get the fuck off the aisle because after the divorce you’ll have only your ass to wear as a hat.
No one asks for a commitment without preparing to fuck you with surcharges. If you could fuck your cell phone, the provider contract and a marriage contract would be identical.
“That adds up to tens of millions more young men blissfully free of mortgages, wives, and child-care bills.”
It sure does. Men are more mature than women; seven to zero. Men win.
Child-Man in the Promised Land - Someone call the Wahmbulence
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April 9th, 2008 at 11:13 am - IP Man-Hash: 64805476a3ff8
and by the way didnt you hear….woman are taking over the world…..mark my words…..
April 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm - IP Man-Hash: 582fb4b338d83
Hahaha!
TAKING OVER THE WORLD?
Women can’t get anything to work without men doing it for them. Take over the world when one can’t change a tire, dispose of a dead mouse or remember how one got from point a to point b?
Women actually taking over the world would indeed be the seventh seal.
Holland you say? I did a winkler-prinz for a time as a youth, you know, there’s a little park in Amsterdam about her granddaddy,( which currently is popular with the drug addicts to hang out on the benches), hopefully she’s learned a thing or two, I know I have. I hope you get things together over there before you all are forced to live under sharia law. Geert Wilder ROCKS!
Respectfully submitted
Darrell Harb
April 10th, 2008 at 6:54 am - IP Man-Hash: 08f96646ca919
The majority of women is stupid. The majority of men is stupid. The majority of people is stupid. Dont let the majority blind you. There are exceptions out there, though they may be hard to find.
April 10th, 2008 at 3:26 pm - IP Man-Hash: 3d11fe36fe871
@ Darrell Harb
Mantastic points Darrell. Have you joined the forums yet?
April 11th, 2008 at 4:52 am - IP Man-Hash: 64805476a3ff8
yeah but darryl were the did you come out your fathers ass…no i think not you came out of a woman…
the seventh seal you say then how come latin american country’s where a woman is in charge are doing better then country’s where man are in charge see for yourself and then come back with your story’s about how terrible woman are
ps you came out of a woman don’t you ever forget that
April 11th, 2008 at 5:05 am - IP Man-Hash: d0c43bae1ac42
Pregnancy card number……fuck I’ve lost count.
Giving birth is a biological function that requires neither thought nor creativity or in alot of cases even fucking choice. Female dogs, cats, cows and rats do it. If women want a fucking medal for the ability to give birth then go out and buy one because you arent getting one from us.
If women deserved any kudos whatsover then it was for the ability to be a good mother and since women are too busy trying to live up to a ’sex and the city’ lifestyle, they now fail on that count too.
You poor useless creatures. You’ve taken your own respect and flushed it down the toilet.
April 11th, 2008 at 9:54 am - IP Man-Hash: 64805476a3ff8
really go get a life……stupid fuck:D
April 11th, 2008 at 9:59 am - IP Man-Hash: 582fb4b338d83
yeah but darryl were the did you come out your fathers ass…no i think not you came out of a woman…
Whatever hole I came out of is of no matter. I seen all manner of filthy animals give birth, retards and the brain dead give birth, it’s of no mater[sic].
Where’s the country with a woman running things efficiently and effectively which doesnt go all bollocks presently?
Surely you can’t mean Argentina. She’s just another intellectually corrupt Peronista stripmining the countries inherent remaining wealth and penalizing the MALE producers and throwing them away while she takes her cut of the highlife for her entourage. She’s a loser like Evita, a phoney an charlatan pretending to provide for all her little poor children from her palace, but not using her own cash or letting them near her good silver, for sure.
It’s charactoristicly female to be generous with distributing what is not hers and to be niggardly with what is her own.
There is nowhere on the planet that a woman actually runs things that’s been doing well without running things into the ground.
And then blaming everyone else for not playing along.
You’re a simple being, confusing gender entitlement propaganda(for your benefit curiously enough)with relative efficiency, productivity and accomplishment of the male that you eschew. Woman is a socialist being by nature, expecting for’ being’, forcing others to pull her ever increasing weight and admonishing anyone who fails to hold her autistic values as their very own own.
Women have never run anything other than their own men. First through individual craft, and now through other men in the form of officers of the courts. Such is this, that even the most vociferous and strident feminists NEED men to extract tribute from other men. Proof again, that women are charactoristicly weak, stupid, self centered by and large and even worse than that, propose these as admirable traits worthy of nurturing
You want credit for following your unfettered primitive hormones and mindless unenlightened animal instincts unchanged from that of dinosours, fair enough, then in all ‘fairness’ you’ll surely be willing grant me the same courtesy and happily internalize my exhortation to sod off?
And why not you say?
BECAUSE YOURE A SOCIALIST FRAUD.
You liberal types have so many problems based on flawed entitlement thinking. Higher thought is a mystery to you as you are fatally tribal and incapable of any advanced thought short of genetic mutation. In the US it’s almost laughable. If you want Obama, youre a mysogynist, if you want Hillary, youre a racist. Typical liberal thinking; no matter what you choose, it wont work to fix the problem at hand and down the road and there’s no real satisfaction possible. Which gender does this best describe? You gals rail against (admittedly feminized men ie irresponsible idle layabouts that can’t be trusted to do any worthy tasks) and leave the real threats to you, the moozie that will glady kill you or your daughters for getting yourself raped or even being alone with a no-relative male. Gals, by and large you’re intellectual chickenshits, fighting where it’s easiest and softest and warmest and requires no real effort and no real casualties while the armies of your inevitable doom mass at your jade gates, preparing to harness your eggs with their medieval yokes. G’head, proclaim victory and freedom over those that fairly benignly ignore you or incompletely cater, the barbarians will presently be changing the kind of lip-service you’ll be responsible for.
G’head, whine and complain ladies, your lack of priority and substantive action will be your doom. Bitch at your hubby and ignore the 7th century psychosis bearing down on you. It is inevitable and is as supported by the barbarian men as it is by their women. You want to do something of value, use your precious bottoms to stand an army to protect their mothers and fathers.
But you won’t, will you?
Woman in charge? It is to laugh, naught but a game of silly buggers..
Respectfully submitted
Darrell Harb
April 11th, 2008 at 11:01 am - IP Man-Hash: 582fb4b338d83
Women claiming credit for whelping a brat is as men claiming fulfillment and value by farting.
The Inner cities of America are awash in ignorant and unsocialized generating mountains of defective offspring, with no real expectation of ‘dey baby daddy’, rather expecting extorted dole by those that they revile.
Nobody can be adaquately judged by any momentary evaluation, rather the evaluation of the sequence of events, one action leading to the next, and to the next to completion. Any action taken in isolation can be credited to be beneficial regardless of it’s inevitable outcome
April 11th, 2008 at 11:17 am - IP Man-Hash: 582fb4b338d83
Well as long as we’re playing Texas Holdem with body parts, You’re the expert, that is, a former spurt from a somewhat greasy male member, so what say you now? This is rather stupid, lady (although typical).
I’m wearing a 50/50 poly-cotton blend, does that make me ac/dc? Maybe it gives me priority in this thread?
I got to work in my Ford today. Does that make me a car?
I breath in air, am I a gas?
Shall we consider the mysterious pancreas next? How about the far flung Isles of Langerhans? You seem to be focused and fixated on pure anatomy rather than any form of procreative logic( d’uhhh0! Is that all you got, validity by serendipity? You’re special by an accident of nature? I say X chromosome poisoning. You want to the front of the line, then fight your way up to it like I did.
Why is a dog mans best friend? Because at least the dog in it’s own inherent stupidity and inferiority is still smarter enough to know it’s better and knows its place in the relationship and is happy to get along in it. The man in his wisdom only expects of the dog what the dog is capable of and finds happiness in doing. Thus is the model of cooperation.
Notice the difference from what you want?
April 11th, 2008 at 3:59 pm - IP Man-Hash: 3d11fe36fe871
*slow handclaps* bravo….bravo… What a splendid display of female wit and intelligence.
April 12th, 2008 at 6:25 am - IP Man-Hash: 64805476a3ff8
who said that i was a female….???
April 12th, 2008 at 7:15 am - IP Man-Hash: bf0423cf85dd3
I didnt…….
I said that you displayed female wit and intelligence. Do keep up.
You argue like a woman, your points are pointlessly womanlike, your wit is as pathetic as a womans, you resort to womanlike insults, and just like a woman you have the innate desire to have the last word even if you end up looking like a fucking moron so I’d say the chances of you being a woman are pretty good.
April 12th, 2008 at 6:32 pm - IP Man-Hash: 490d8c7453ac9
Geez…
You down, bro.
Dawg or bitch, holland is netherland regardless..
April 13th, 2008 at 4:57 pm - IP Man-Hash: bdd52bd91c950
I just wanted to say that as I sit here drinking beer and pulling out my nose hair with my fingers, that whenever I see the name ’sarah’, ‘hilary’ or ‘michael/michelle’ at the top of a post, I skip it and move straight on to the next one.
Can’t you read? No women allowed - which immediately renders your posts, your points and your lives utterly pointless, because if you can’t read then that proves you’re fucktacularly ‘tarded.
After a life-time surrounded by women it is fair to say that I, as a man, am better at ignoring women than women.
I see your name, I turn my gaze towards my beer, thumb the wheel a little, and your drivel has slid past like a particularly wet-turd down a well-greased window pane, not even leaving a smear.
Anyho’ - beer anyone?
April 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm - IP Man-Hash: aa4017ec665ce
CHILD WOMAN IN THE PROMISED LAND
It’s 1965 and you’re a 26 year-old-white girl. You’re married with your high school boyfriend and have a kid, with another on the way. You cook, make all the household chores (even if you have a job), you are nice and sweet to your man, make sex with him even if you don’t feel like it and give him all the authority (”daddy knows best”). You know how to make ends meet without complaining, you are satisfied with a man with a modest income and you never complain. Yup! You’re an adult.
Now meet the twenty-first-century you, also 26. You’ve finished college and you are partying like crazy, making pictures with your female friends where you are drunk and show your asses, banging Mr. Right Now until Mr. Right arrives, being in serial relationships with bad boys, while you despise nice guys for being “boring”. In your spare time, you gossip about Britney Spears, bitch about men with your friends, watch “Sex and the City”, “Oprah” or “Oxygen” and read “Cosmopolitan” (not Maxim, like these immature men). You want marriage and kids but only after 30.
So then, when you biological clock is ticking, you nag a guy to marry you and became instantly dissatisfied because marriage is not like in romantic movies. You are always complaining. You feel entitled to a big house, a big SUV, a lifestyle you can’t afford but you have seen in “Desperate housewives”. You are hugely in debt while your husband slaves himself to buy half of the IKEA catalogue. You want to be a traditional woman about chivalry, your man being the primary breadwinner and having commitment from your man. But you want to be a modern woman about career, avoiding performing the traditional female roles (cooking - but a microwaved pizza is OK-, chores, being under authority of men, etc) and leaving the commitment (divorce) when “you are bored” (since 70% of divorces are initiated by women). It’s all about you.
April 15th, 2008 at 5:39 pm - IP Man-Hash: d7a5f74c86212
So do half the guys posting here, including Dick Masterson. If misplaced
anger were oil this blog would be Saudi Arabia.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:15 pm - IP Man-Hash: 9a96588cf8d6c
Why do all women bitch and moan about how they want to be treated as equals and shit?
Like.. Okay in the “PC” world we try and put everyone in the same boat when really grouping everyone as they fucking should be is how it fucking SHOULD BE DONE.
Have you ever heard a man ask to be treated as a womans equal?
NO
because NEVER in history, in any kind of CRAZE or SHIFT or anything have woman been seen as better.
Even if they weren’t as shit as back when they weren’t even allowed to leave the house, they still had to GET to that position somehow, SOMEONE IMPORTANT had to decide that women weren’t worth a shit and then everyone else had to agree.
Our manly man-instincts before we could even speak put women in their place.
SO fuck stop complaining.
IF women really thought they were equal they would just fucking chill out and not take everythign against them as “oh you don’t treat us equal”
if your not, fuck up.
AS for this article
“It’s 1965 and you’re a 26-year-old white guy. You have a factory job, or maybe you work for an insurance broker. Either way, you’re married, probably have been for a few years now; you met your wife in high school, where she was in your sister’s class. You’ve already got one kid, with another on the way. For now, you’re renting an apartment in your parents’ two-family house, but you’re saving up for a three-bedroom ranch house in the next town. Yup, you’re an adult!”
Okay what shes saying:
Men should all be the same.
You’re providing everything for your family
“Now meet the twenty-first-century you, also 26. You’ve finished college and work in a cubicle in a large Chicago financial-services firm. You live in an apartment with a few single guy friends. In your spare time, you play basketball with your buddies, download the latest indie songs from iTunes, have some fun with the Xbox 360, take a leisurely shower, massage some product into your hair and face—and then it’s off to bars and parties, where you meet, and often bed, girls of widely varied hues and sizes. They come from everywhere: California, Tokyo, Alaska, Australia. Wife? Kids? House? Are you kidding?”
Exercise, fun, and friends are bad.
Listening to music you like is bad
Playing XBox is bad
Having a nice long shower is mad
Partying and enjoying your life is bad
Men should not enjoy being able to score girls
“…frustrated young women: the limbo doesn’t bring out the best in young men. With women, you could argue that adulthood is in fact emergent. Single women in their twenties and early thirties are joining an international New Girl Order, hyperachieving in both school and an increasingly female-friendly workplace, while packing leisure hours with shopping, traveling, and dining with friends [see “The New Girl Order,” Autumn 2007]. Single Young Males, or SYMs, by contrast, often seem to hang out in a playground of drinking, hooking up, playing Halo 3, and, in many cases, underachieving. With them, adulthood looks as though it’s receding.”
Women are frustrated that men are having fun
Women are frustrated that men aren’t providing for them
They are shopping and shit like that - oh so much more constructive than video games
IF YOUNG MEN ARE GOING AROUND HOOKING UP WITH WOMEN, THERE HAVE TO BE WOMEN HOOKING UP WITH THEM, YOU STUPID BITCH WHAT THE FUCK WRITE A REAL ARTICE, IF THERE IS AN ACT THEY ARE PERFORMING WHICH INVOLVES A MAN AND A WOMAN THEY ARE BOTH DOING IT OH MY GOD.
Adulthood is defined by whether or not you’re married
“That adds up to tens of millions more young men blissfully free of mortgages, wives, and child-care bills.”
oh NO!!!! free from mortgages, child care bills, and wives! OH SHIT WE BETTER FIX THIS
Keyword: blissfully
The women are the ones complaining that men aren’t paying mortgages and child care bills? Men are having the time of their lives
April 16th, 2008 at 5:45 pm - IP Man-Hash: 739fa77aab84e
The crappiest part of this woman’s ranting is that her final assessment is of young men’s capability to be husband’s and fathers… Doesn’t she realize that Marriage is a combination of primitive female pair-bonding instinct and early historical sex slavery? See, in the jungle, women had to have men around to survive long enough to raise slow-growing human children, so the pair-bond instinct developed to insure this. Then, as society grew and became more complex, men realized that they didn’t want to raise other men’s children, so they invented marriage as an officially recognized institution of imprisonment, so that their women couldn’t get out to be impregnated by strange men. So this woman is bitching that men won’t take advantage of and enslave them. Way to go. Listen to this woman’s inner monkey scream and shout. “OOOH OOOOH AAAH AAAH!!!” Jesus… evolve already.
April 21st, 2008 at 4:01 pm - IP Man-Hash: ecddee483f1dd
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