Child-Man in the Promised Land: Response
Recently myself and MenAreBetterThanWomen.com were mentioned in an article about the maturity of today’s twenty-something male culture. Since the article was written by a woman, not only was it petty, wish-washy, and wrong by a country mile; it was also focused entirely on marriage.
Marriage and a willingness to be married is not the definition of maturity. It’s actually the opposite. Unless screaming at the people you love because some pastries are two hours late is the benchmark of maturity. I’m pretty sure it isn’t, though the article didn’t mention either way.
Men are better than women at being 20. This holds today as much as it ever did — including in 1965. Here is my response to Child-Man in the Promised Land.
It sucks.
First of all, “child-man” is awkward. “Man-child” rolls off the tongue as smooth as man-silk. When you’re building a case against people who act a certain way — something called prejudice — it’s important to make your slur as catchy as possible.
The guiltiest a person can be is when they’re a catch phrase.
Kay Hymowitz defines a “child-man” as a modern young man who “hangs out in a hormonal limbo between adolescence and adulthood.” I’m pretty sure adult men want to fuck the shit out of Jessica Alba too, so I can say for certain that the modern twenty-something man is mired safely in hormonal adulthood.
But here’s something else. Did anyone else notice that Kay’s last name looks a lot like “Hymen”? Gross.
According to Kay Hymen-owitz, playing video games every night and laughing at fart jokes is a not only a lazy thing to do, it’s also the mark of a bad father and inattentive husband. This, she claims, is different to the young men of 1965 who allegedly aspired to nothing but fatherhood and bill paying.
“It’s 1965 and you’re a 26-year-old white guy. You have a factory job…you’re married…one kid…you’re an adult!” - Kay Hymowitz
In other words, today’s men no longer aspire to become anthropomorphic ATM’s.
Fred Flintstone
Fred Flintstone says more about the twenty-something male culture of 1965 than I ever could.
“Why can’t they invent something for us to marry instead of women?” - Fred Flintstone, circa 1960
That’s straight from the zeitgeist of an era. There is no difference in a general aversion to women and marriage between the men of today and the men of yesteryear — and the men of 10,000 BC. Marriage is fucked and stupid and women are annoying. Nothing is ever going to change that. Least of all video games and Maxim.
Remember the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo? I do because I’m a man and I remember all history — even the parts that make me look stupid. Women don’t remember any history — especially the parts that make them look stupid. That’s where most date rape stories come from. Remember that next time a woman opens her yap and starts inventing history on the fly.
A woman’s definition of history is exactly how badly she wishes the present was different. If she’s really fat and she really hates herself for it, then a woman will remember a time when beauty was radically different than it is currently. This was never the case. Fat broads were always the boner equivalent of shit-Kryptonite. Two hundred years from now, no one is going to look back at an iPod commercial and think everyone in the twentieth century was attracted to black silhouettes who could keep a groove.
If a woman feels cheated that her mother was happier being a wife than she’ll ever be as a journalist, she invents a halcyon past of chivalry absolving herself of all personal responsibility. Spend more time at the gym and less on your resumes, ladies. Prince Charming doesn’t care how fast you type.
Fred Flintstone is possibly the greatest cartoon father ever to live. But based on the above quote, Hymen-owitz would probably call him more of a nasty and bitter misogynist than she called me. It sounds to me like a degree in Cartoons and Cereal teaches you more than one in Journalism and Women’s Studies.
There is no such thing as the emergence of a “child-man”, and I’ll be fucked if some woman thinks she’s going to criticize today’s young men for anything. Men have a natural disdain for women and an understood “betterness” over them. That’s what happens when the thing you stick your dick in also happens to suck at everything. The Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo was the MenAreBetterThanWomen.com of the stone age.
Men: 1, Women: 0.
Video Games
Video games are a lot like a movie except you have to be smarter than a woman to figure out how to interact with them. That’s why women hate them. Video games are proof that men are smarter than women.
Have you ever seen a woman play a video game? She’ll just sit there staring stupidly at the television as her character dies or her guitar hero fails spectacularly. She won’t even mash the buttons. No matter how you spin it, inaction is the essence of failure. To a woman, video games are a mirror that reflect her soul.
Video games are a mark of immaturity? Hardly.
The video games men play are rated explicitly beyond the purchase of children. They’re violent and cruel and they should be. Men ourselves are violent and cruel. No woman was cruel enough to send millions of young men overseas in World War II to die in mustard gas and chemical infernos in order to save an entire race of people. No woman did, and no woman would have. Women can’t even leave abusive spouses, how the fuck could one have handled Hitler?
Just because something has “games” in it does not mean it’s childlike and simple. “Women” has “men” in it, but that doesn’t mean they’re worth more than two shits in a diarrhea storm.
Men: 2, Women: 0.
Weddings
Making a list of things you want people to buy you is something children do. But when “grown-up” women do it, it’s called a Bridal Registry. And why the fuck do full grown adults need a seating chart? That’s childish.
A woman’s addiction to wedding fantasies starts strongly when she’s a child and become more obsessive and psychotic over time. Nothing about that resembles maturation. It’s the opposite. Women are the only creature on Earth that becomes less mature with experience.
Weddings are the ultimate in childishness. It’s a birthday party with two extra zero’s on the bill. Instead of birthday hats, a wedding has suits and gowns. Instead of a clown, a wedding has a priest and a string quartet. Instead of a spoiled brat, a wedding has a bride.
Men: 3, Women: 0.
Sex
Getting laid is the meaning of life. Everything else is garnish. Garnish for women so that they don’t have to feel like sex toys even though they are.
When it comes to the opposite sex, the only thing men are concerned about is getting busy as often and as cheaply and as nakedly as possible. And sex is so contrary to childishness that it’s illegal to do it with them. That’s called being a pedophile and it will get you on Dateline.
Men love sex and sex itself is so mature that children are barred from exposure to it. Whether it’s internet pornography or even swear words. That means if you like sex, you’re one mature motherfucker.
Hand holding, love poems, soul mates, and the childish bone meal that make up women’s delusions about sex are the fodder for school yard romance all around the world. Now who’s childish? Fucking women are childish.
Men: 4, Women: 0.
Baby Boomers
Today’s young men are free to fuck around because there are still a shit load of baby boomers around running the show. That’s the real truth of this issue. Maturity is like a gun. Just because you have it, doesn’t mean you have to use it. In fact, using it inappropriately will sometimes make you look like a humorless dick.
“[There's a] New Girl Order, hyperachieving in both school and an increasingly female-friendly workplace…” - Kay Hymenowitz
Hyper achieving women? How many women invented Google? The same number of women who’ve fucked me for free. None.
The fact is the new generation of men are holding up the internet with man-sized shoulders like a virtual Atlas. Women know nothing of what it takes to run a civilization and Kay Hymen-owitz is no different. Next time you need to attach a pdf to an email or a spreadsheet to a free porno website, who are you going to ask?
I’ll bet my cock it won’t be a young woman.
Furthermore, the workplace has always been female-friendly. Except these days, women think they don’t like getting slapped on the ass even though they really do. That’s called playing “hard to get”.
Men: 5, Women: 0.
Responsibility
“You wouldn’t know how to become an adult even if you wanted to? Maybe a beautiful princess will come along and show you.” -Kay Hymen-owitz
While I was on the Dr. Phil program sharing a single bathroom with 4 ladies — a fucking nightmare — Dr. Phil told me that all I needed was a good woman. I guess that makes Dr. Phil a raving misogynist and a perpetual child-man as well. Even if it’s true that this newage “child-man” needs only the love of a good woman to mature him like anti-free wine, that means precisely this:
There are no good women.
All women are cheating whores. At best they can be trained out of it, but really what’s the point? Pet ownership is a lot of work. Don’t forget that piece of advice if you do intend to do something stupid like get married.
Men: 6, Women: 0.
Single mothers
“…the plight of the single mothers means nothing to him” -Kay Hymen-owitz
There is no “plight of single mothers”. All a single mother has to do is open her legs and she’ll fall vagina first into money.
Single mothers are all either dumb or bitches. That’s how they end up single. Since whoring got them into the mess, it can certainly get them out.
Men: 7, Women: 0.
Manclusion
1965 wasn’t the end all be all of family structure. In the 1800’s every wealthy man had a mistress. Bill Gates would have had one for every night of the year.
“For the problem with child-men is that they’re not very promising husbands and fathers. They suffer from a proverbial “fear of commitment,” another way of saying that they can’t stand to think of themselves as permanently attached to one woman.”
Either that or said women are all total bitches. A fear of commitment is like a fear of loud noises. In one case, your brain is telling you to get the fuck off the train tracks or you’ll soon be wearing your ass as a hat. In the other case, your brain is telling you to get the fuck off the aisle because after the divorce you’ll have only your ass to wear as a hat.
No one asks for a commitment without preparing to fuck you with surcharges. If you could fuck your cell phone, the provider contract and a marriage contract would be identical.
“That adds up to tens of millions more young men blissfully free of mortgages, wives, and child-care bills.”
It sure does. Men are more mature than women; seven to zero. Men win.
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March 21st, 2008 at 9:21 am - IP Man-Hash: d653cff06dec4
What’s best for them is the father being as all powerful in this effiminate system of delusion called “representative government” as he is in the reality of the universe and natural order.
When’s the last time you heard of an Arab serial killer?
But I wouldn’t worry about it. The abundance of sociopaths, rapists and beasts single females have created in their avarice will be the ironic Vanguard troops… the tip of the spear in the war against them.
What survives the mass rapes and murders can build my armaments in the coming war with China.
March 21st, 2008 at 9:24 am - IP Man-Hash: 60b9632657c7c
I take it you’re not a biologist.
-Dick
March 21st, 2008 at 9:44 am - IP Man-Hash: 4aad97af48ec6
Yes, as a women with three kids, having a little person growing inside of you is truly a wonderful experience. Having said that, if it weren’t for my husband planting my little guys inside of me, I would have never been able to experience giving birth. You can not give all of the glory to the mother……It isn’t fair. I stand proud knowing my husband blood is coursing threw my children’s veins as well as mine, because WE made them together.
I’ll tell you something, I don’t know if you have children or not, but when I was pregnant with my little guys, every time one of them were to kick me I thought of my husband and how lucky I was. Now that they are all born, they are spitting little images of my husband…..I love that, and I’m grateful of him.
P.S. maybe you need to give that dad of yours a hug and tell him how much he means to you…..
March 21st, 2008 at 9:46 am - IP Man-Hash: 4aad97af48ec6
No, she clearly has no clue.
March 21st, 2008 at 10:57 am - IP Man-Hash: 9342b2aa308e5
Giving birth etc is something rats do more successfully than women.
Your thousand women, given an historical population of tens of billions would only constitute the exceptions that prove the rule. You can go ahead but the truth is women have always been the species back seat drivers.
In fact children do equally well with both parents OR with a single father. It is single mothers who create ALL the negative sociological outcomes.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:09 am - IP Man-Hash: 822c948329db7
somethings are too retarded to even know where to start
March 21st, 2008 at 2:31 pm - IP Man-Hash: 9342b2aa308e5
@jaydavi…
Cop out. Just as youve copped out of answering the question I put to you earlier.
Children raised by single fathers have the same outcomes as those raised jointly by a mother and father. Children of single mothers fare multiple times worse and figure highly in every single negative social indicator.
And you still have not cited a single right available to men that women do not likewise have.
Typical female approach. When confronted with an unassailable argument bury your head in the sand or resort to ad hominem.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:49 pm - IP Man-Hash: 822c948329db7
“Comment on Child-Man in the Promised Land: Response by gwallan
@jaydavi…
Cop out. Just as youve copped out of answering the question I put to you earlier.
Children raised by single fathers have the same outcomes as those raised jointly by a mother and father. Children of single mothers fare multiple times worse and figure highly in every single negative social indicator.
And you still have not cited a single right available to men that women do not likewise have.
Typical female approach. When confronted with an unassailable argument bury your head in the sand or resort to ad hominem.”
Erm, I think you were having that discussion with someone else smart ass.
Someone called Sarah.
>cue inevitable “oh, all you whiney women sound the same” type cop out of why this guy can’t figure out who he is talking to or what he is talking about<
I appreciate the enthusiasm for what you though was a cop out though.
If you like me to comment though I will oblige. I come from a single parent family and I consider myself reasonably well adjusted, however, I revealed I come from quite a large family. I have a brother who skips high school to do drugs every day even though it has already had him expelled from one place, I have a brother who was recently arrested for assault and drunk and disorderly, I have a third brother who wears womens’ clothing. All are younger than me.
My family set up worked for me, but not for my brothers. My boyfriend comes from a single parent family of four (two boys, two girls) all raised by his mother and they are all incredibly high achievers and get good grades. His sister doesn’t even drink alcohol.
I think anyone can thrive in any family set up, it is all to do with how they see and treat it, but like I said, You were having that argument with someone else.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:59 pm - IP Man-Hash: 822c948329db7
What men can do that women can’t-
Be Pope, or gain any real respect in many religions.
The glass ceiling pertains to a general unwillingness to hire women, especially those who look like they might want kids.
I have never claimed to be a feminist, I merely stand up for myself as a woman when I see I am being treated badly. It is not specific rights as such that concern me but general sexism.
Things such as rape within marriage, women being allowed to join the navy have been altered but reasonably recently. If you see the history of sexism against women you must be able to empathize with residual anger, many men on this site who were wronged by women have residual anger for what is now in the past.
March 21st, 2008 at 5:04 pm - IP Man-Hash: e1caec5062137
Women are children; they demand attention constantly, depend on hard working men for money, food, survival really and recklessly try to promote the idea that they’re equal to men while enjoying any special advantages given to them by society or tradition. This will over time have devastating impacts on the future of civilization. Imagine it, a bunch of inexperienced children spouting “youth power” as they put on hard hats and try to do adult men’s work. We’re going down hard if we let bitches “man” the helm and the last few real men of the future will condemn today’s men who fucked up and allowed it to happen. Oh, time will tell.
March 21st, 2008 at 5:05 pm - IP Man-Hash: 9342b2aa308e5
@jaydavi…
I refer you to this post…
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/child-man-response/#comment-22218 4
Personally I couldn’t give a toss about your family. Your personal anecdotes serve no purpose other than to divert discussion.
How many Popes are there? I can’t be Queen of England either.
I would suggest that women are held in far higher regard than men in Christian religions. They also are the original source of western chivalry which places womens interests and comfort ahead of mens in every regard.
The glass ceiling is a myth. There are no rights being denied women in workplaces and arguably they are advantaged over men by affirmative action. Women have the same right as men to work their backsides off and sacrifice to achieve. Meanwhile men are still ninety five percent of workplace deaths and injuries. For heavens sake if you hadn’t noticed a woman may be the next president of the US. Like feminists you’ll count the numbers and if they don’t stack up to your liking you toss a hissy fit claiming it’s all because men discriminate against women. You want it all for nothing simply because of your genitalia. Don’t let anything like hard work get in your way. That’s not rights you’re demanding - thats privilege.
Rape within marriage was always illegal. However when I was raped by a woman as an eight year old that was legal BECAUSE she was a woman.
Women have been joining the navy and similar services for decades and, furthermore, standards were lowered to accommodate them. Of course the men in those services STILL do all the heavy lifting and dangerous work. In New York a quarter of emergency service workers are women. Guess how many of the four hundred odd emergency service workers who died on 9/11 were female.
I asked you about actual rights. You have not addressed that question. I will add another…
My country can conscript me not just for millitary service but for any purpose THEY decide. It could be as simple as digging holes. You, as a female, are exempt from this under international labour laws. The only class of people who can be forced to labour against their will are, as those treaties put it, “able bodied men” which is generally taken to mean men aged over eighteen. Of course you will have heard about women being trafficked for the purpose of prostitution. There’s been hysteria over, and exaggeration of the extent of, this for several years. The vast majority of those forced into indentured servitude or even slavery are male. You’ll never hear about it because it’s legal.
I have now presented two instances where men are not simply denied rights they are denied fundamental human rights that you absolutely enjoy simply because of your gender.
Your response so far is to vaguely insinuate that women are denied opportunities by the inherent sexism of men.
Have a look at the world around you. Count the number of businesses, services and, most importantly, the government systems that cater exclusively to women. Now do the same for men.
And the fact remains that children from single mother families are multiple times more likely to suffer from every single negative outcome than children from intact families or single fathers. Your individual experience is anecdotal only and, unfortunately, anecdote does not equal data.
March 21st, 2008 at 5:48 pm - IP Man-Hash: b873637864fc9
In my post above I asked what Hymowhatsit is for, given that she’s bitchy and unappealing to men.
I thought about it some more, and I realised that she does have a purpose. That’s to do Dick’s marketing for him.
After all, I only found this site because I heard its name in a section of the article that Leykis read out on his show.
Good work Kay.
Now can someone tell me what jaydavi’s for?
March 22nd, 2008 at 4:14 am - IP Man-Hash: 8aaaf63214fd3
i don’t guess that kay woman realized that when she was talking about maxim that it was those mid 20 mature women posing in bikinis on their covers
March 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 am - IP Man-Hash: 8aaaf63214fd3
i’d support any facade that was this badass
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:27 am - IP Man-Hash: 9cfdf00b83713
effiminate? representative government is effiminate? Thats typical arab talk. Are you arab or are you just brainwashed by their ridiculous diatribe against the west? Let me guess, liberty and freedom are effiminate as well?
Let me let you in on a little something, representative government has been around long before the united states you blithering idiot. The first form of democracy emerged in greece around 510 BCE. The athenians actually invented the “rule by many” Women, children and slaves were not allowed to vote. Only citizens (men who owned land) could vote. Does that sound very effeminate to you? The kickass founding fathers of the US revived it because England was a cunty monarchy and they weren’t gonna take that shit anymore. Why dont you do a little research on those guys if you think they were effeminate. The coolest war in the history of everything (American revolutionary war) was fought against Great Britain to ensure that we would be free and independent. We were the underdogs, we didnt have shit compared to their royal army, but we kicked their fuckin asses. That sounds really effiminate doesn’t it?
It was only a matter of time before we realized that slavery and sexism were wrong and now, everyone votes. Because thats the right way. So ideal in fact that other people have picked it up as well, because its the best form of government the world has ever seen. I dont necessarily agree with everything thats going on right now, but i firmly believe that this system will withstand anything and that truth and justice will prevail.
Liberty and Justice for ALL
Lets compare that to islamic states. No liberty, no justice, just a whole lot of bullshit. In fact, ive studied sharia and the only thing i agree with is not charging interest, but i can admit, thats because i wouldn’t want to gain from someone elses misfortune. Islamic states are the only place in the world that you’ll find people being stoned (something jesus didnt like) and having their hands chopped off in front of a crowd like its some kind of sporting event. Arab terrorists kill themselves in order to kill other people thinking that in heaven they’ll get a bunch of virgins. Hahaha i laugh at people who are so naive and ignorant o think that the carnal pleasures of this world will continue on in heaven. Or even that our mortal bodies are what we take to heaven with us. Its actually quite hilarious.
But what can you expect from a people whos prophet married a 6 year old. Hahaha this guy was a pedophile and a murderer and you live by everything he said and did. Thats fucking stupid. If you were smart, you would check out the new testament, where jesus lays down the law.
And just as a side note, you dont know shit about the universe and the natural order of things. So don’t pretend to.
God gave us free will and a conscience so that we could use it, not so some totalitarian, fascist government could stamp it out. That is why we win and you (communism, fascism, islam, etc.) fucking lose. THE END.
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:34 am - IP Man-Hash: 9cfdf00b83713
hahaha exactly! Getting paid. Because you guys would pay anything to see some naked hot chicks. And you do. The porn industry is a billion dollar industry all because you are willing to sell your soul for sex. It makes me sick. And then you act like its womens fault that you cant control yourself. Just admit it, sex to men is like cupcakes to fat chicks. You just can’t resist, and you get more and more disgusting the more you let yourself go.
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:45 am - IP Man-Hash: 60b9632657c7c
No. We would pay about 19.95 plus shipping and handling. To a man, that amount is not “anything”.
-Dick
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:48 am - IP Man-Hash: 9cfdf00b83713
Use
Thats funny because not only does Dick Masterson offer no proof of his accusations, you also offer no proof in your comment and offer only opinion.
I am sorry about what happened to you. I kind of feel bad now for thinking that you were just a bunch of assholes, when clearly you all are sad people with a scar that hasnt healed and you’re not sure what to do about it so you blame all women. Ive seen that before in girls and women who have been raped and molested. They blame all men because of what one did to them. The thing is, there are alot more of them because there are alot more male child molesters and rapists. I just wish that both of you could realize that you are not the enemy and that you’ve both been hurt and maybe help each other heal.
I should say, though, just because she was a woman, that doesnt make it legal. She should be in prison where she would get killed because thats what they do to child molesters in prison and thats what they deserve.
Female child molesters are prosecuted and sentenced, and im not sure where you got the idea that it was ok because they were women.
Anyway im not sure if im going to post here anymore because i feel bad arguing with someone who only feels a certain way because of a childhood trauma. I hope that you can work it out and become a better person because of it.
peace and love
sarah
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:49 am - IP Man-Hash: d653cff06dec4
I have no illusion you believe in a God and an old rotten structure that lets you have rights without fighting for them and let’s you cuckold men without consequence.
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:49 am - IP Man-Hash: 9cfdf00b83713
Perhaps ill only argue with the anti americans. haha