Child-Man in the Promised Land: Response
Recently myself and MenAreBetterThanWomen.com were mentioned in an article about the maturity of today’s twenty-something male culture. Since the article was written by a woman, not only was it petty, wish-washy, and wrong by a country mile; it was also focused entirely on marriage.
Marriage and a willingness to be married is not the definition of maturity. It’s actually the opposite. Unless screaming at the people you love because some pastries are two hours late is the benchmark of maturity. I’m pretty sure it isn’t, though the article didn’t mention either way.
Men are better than women at being 20. This holds today as much as it ever did — including in 1965. Here is my response to Child-Man in the Promised Land.
It sucks.
First of all, “child-man” is awkward. “Man-child” rolls off the tongue as smooth as man-silk. When you’re building a case against people who act a certain way — something called prejudice — it’s important to make your slur as catchy as possible.
The guiltiest a person can be is when they’re a catch phrase.
Kay Hymowitz defines a “child-man” as a modern young man who “hangs out in a hormonal limbo between adolescence and adulthood.” I’m pretty sure adult men want to fuck the shit out of Jessica Alba too, so I can say for certain that the modern twenty-something man is mired safely in hormonal adulthood.
But here’s something else. Did anyone else notice that Kay’s last name looks a lot like “Hymen”? Gross.
According to Kay Hymen-owitz, playing video games every night and laughing at fart jokes is a not only a lazy thing to do, it’s also the mark of a bad father and inattentive husband. This, she claims, is different to the young men of 1965 who allegedly aspired to nothing but fatherhood and bill paying.
“It’s 1965 and you’re a 26-year-old white guy. You have a factory job…you’re married…one kid…you’re an adult!” - Kay Hymowitz
In other words, today’s men no longer aspire to become anthropomorphic ATM’s.
Fred Flintstone
Fred Flintstone says more about the twenty-something male culture of 1965 than I ever could.
“Why can’t they invent something for us to marry instead of women?” - Fred Flintstone, circa 1960
That’s straight from the zeitgeist of an era. There is no difference in a general aversion to women and marriage between the men of today and the men of yesteryear — and the men of 10,000 BC. Marriage is fucked and stupid and women are annoying. Nothing is ever going to change that. Least of all video games and Maxim.
Remember the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo? I do because I’m a man and I remember all history — even the parts that make me look stupid. Women don’t remember any history — especially the parts that make them look stupid. That’s where most date rape stories come from. Remember that next time a woman opens her yap and starts inventing history on the fly.
A woman’s definition of history is exactly how badly she wishes the present was different. If she’s really fat and she really hates herself for it, then a woman will remember a time when beauty was radically different than it is currently. This was never the case. Fat broads were always the boner equivalent of shit-Kryptonite. Two hundred years from now, no one is going to look back at an iPod commercial and think everyone in the twentieth century was attracted to black silhouettes who could keep a groove.
If a woman feels cheated that her mother was happier being a wife than she’ll ever be as a journalist, she invents a halcyon past of chivalry absolving herself of all personal responsibility. Spend more time at the gym and less on your resumes, ladies. Prince Charming doesn’t care how fast you type.
Fred Flintstone is possibly the greatest cartoon father ever to live. But based on the above quote, Hymen-owitz would probably call him more of a nasty and bitter misogynist than she called me. It sounds to me like a degree in Cartoons and Cereal teaches you more than one in Journalism and Women’s Studies.
There is no such thing as the emergence of a “child-man”, and I’ll be fucked if some woman thinks she’s going to criticize today’s young men for anything. Men have a natural disdain for women and an understood “betterness” over them. That’s what happens when the thing you stick your dick in also happens to suck at everything. The Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo was the MenAreBetterThanWomen.com of the stone age.
Men: 1, Women: 0.
Video Games
Video games are a lot like a movie except you have to be smarter than a woman to figure out how to interact with them. That’s why women hate them. Video games are proof that men are smarter than women.
Have you ever seen a woman play a video game? She’ll just sit there staring stupidly at the television as her character dies or her guitar hero fails spectacularly. She won’t even mash the buttons. No matter how you spin it, inaction is the essence of failure. To a woman, video games are a mirror that reflect her soul.
Video games are a mark of immaturity? Hardly.
The video games men play are rated explicitly beyond the purchase of children. They’re violent and cruel and they should be. Men ourselves are violent and cruel. No woman was cruel enough to send millions of young men overseas in World War II to die in mustard gas and chemical infernos in order to save an entire race of people. No woman did, and no woman would have. Women can’t even leave abusive spouses, how the fuck could one have handled Hitler?
Just because something has “games” in it does not mean it’s childlike and simple. “Women” has “men” in it, but that doesn’t mean they’re worth more than two shits in a diarrhea storm.
Men: 2, Women: 0.
Weddings
Making a list of things you want people to buy you is something children do. But when “grown-up” women do it, it’s called a Bridal Registry. And why the fuck do full grown adults need a seating chart? That’s childish.
A woman’s addiction to wedding fantasies starts strongly when she’s a child and become more obsessive and psychotic over time. Nothing about that resembles maturation. It’s the opposite. Women are the only creature on Earth that becomes less mature with experience.
Weddings are the ultimate in childishness. It’s a birthday party with two extra zero’s on the bill. Instead of birthday hats, a wedding has suits and gowns. Instead of a clown, a wedding has a priest and a string quartet. Instead of a spoiled brat, a wedding has a bride.
Men: 3, Women: 0.
Sex
Getting laid is the meaning of life. Everything else is garnish. Garnish for women so that they don’t have to feel like sex toys even though they are.
When it comes to the opposite sex, the only thing men are concerned about is getting busy as often and as cheaply and as nakedly as possible. And sex is so contrary to childishness that it’s illegal to do it with them. That’s called being a pedophile and it will get you on Dateline.
Men love sex and sex itself is so mature that children are barred from exposure to it. Whether it’s internet pornography or even swear words. That means if you like sex, you’re one mature motherfucker.
Hand holding, love poems, soul mates, and the childish bone meal that make up women’s delusions about sex are the fodder for school yard romance all around the world. Now who’s childish? Fucking women are childish.
Men: 4, Women: 0.
Baby Boomers
Today’s young men are free to fuck around because there are still a shit load of baby boomers around running the show. That’s the real truth of this issue. Maturity is like a gun. Just because you have it, doesn’t mean you have to use it. In fact, using it inappropriately will sometimes make you look like a humorless dick.
“[There's a] New Girl Order, hyperachieving in both school and an increasingly female-friendly workplace…” - Kay Hymenowitz
Hyper achieving women? How many women invented Google? The same number of women who’ve fucked me for free. None.
The fact is the new generation of men are holding up the internet with man-sized shoulders like a virtual Atlas. Women know nothing of what it takes to run a civilization and Kay Hymen-owitz is no different. Next time you need to attach a pdf to an email or a spreadsheet to a free porno website, who are you going to ask?
I’ll bet my cock it won’t be a young woman.
Furthermore, the workplace has always been female-friendly. Except these days, women think they don’t like getting slapped on the ass even though they really do. That’s called playing “hard to get”.
Men: 5, Women: 0.
Responsibility
“You wouldn’t know how to become an adult even if you wanted to? Maybe a beautiful princess will come along and show you.” -Kay Hymen-owitz
While I was on the Dr. Phil program sharing a single bathroom with 4 ladies — a fucking nightmare — Dr. Phil told me that all I needed was a good woman. I guess that makes Dr. Phil a raving misogynist and a perpetual child-man as well. Even if it’s true that this newage “child-man” needs only the love of a good woman to mature him like anti-free wine, that means precisely this:
There are no good women.
All women are cheating whores. At best they can be trained out of it, but really what’s the point? Pet ownership is a lot of work. Don’t forget that piece of advice if you do intend to do something stupid like get married.
Men: 6, Women: 0.
Single mothers
“…the plight of the single mothers means nothing to him” -Kay Hymen-owitz
There is no “plight of single mothers”. All a single mother has to do is open her legs and she’ll fall vagina first into money.
Single mothers are all either dumb or bitches. That’s how they end up single. Since whoring got them into the mess, it can certainly get them out.
Men: 7, Women: 0.
Manclusion
1965 wasn’t the end all be all of family structure. In the 1800’s every wealthy man had a mistress. Bill Gates would have had one for every night of the year.
“For the problem with child-men is that they’re not very promising husbands and fathers. They suffer from a proverbial “fear of commitment,” another way of saying that they can’t stand to think of themselves as permanently attached to one woman.”
Either that or said women are all total bitches. A fear of commitment is like a fear of loud noises. In one case, your brain is telling you to get the fuck off the train tracks or you’ll soon be wearing your ass as a hat. In the other case, your brain is telling you to get the fuck off the aisle because after the divorce you’ll have only your ass to wear as a hat.
No one asks for a commitment without preparing to fuck you with surcharges. If you could fuck your cell phone, the provider contract and a marriage contract would be identical.
“That adds up to tens of millions more young men blissfully free of mortgages, wives, and child-care bills.”
It sure does. Men are more mature than women; seven to zero. Men win.
Child-Man in the Promised Land - Someone call the Wahmbulence
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March 22nd, 2008 at 5:55 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7bad730ee08ba
Yeah, I’m projecting the truth about you lot onto everyone’s screens. Just face it boy. Prove to us you are actually able to have a normal, decent conversation with any female that posts here. $1000 you cannot do it.
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm - IP Man-Hash: e1caec5062137
Mmmm this cake is delicious. I’ll fuck you later as gratitude.
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:04 pm - IP Man-Hash: 4b8494f25ae28
Hey, now that you’re out of the closet, why did you name yourself Michael if you’re a cunt?
She isn’t a normal, decent person and she’s asking for a decent conversation.
All manholes are this stupid.
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:06 pm - IP Man-Hash: 4b8494f25ae28
Nothing like a good revenge-fuck. It almost makes up for your time the bitch wasted smacking her lips.
“Women will often have verbal fights with men, so that they can either feel powerful, try to deny a man his rightful use of her vagina or simply because they like drama, losing battles and being revenge-fucked. A interesting article goes on about the many ways men might try to fight back with women, but we all know the proper way is to tell her once, and if that doesn’t work, tell her twice, and then send her to the kitchen with two black eyes to make you a fucking pie.
Furthermore, if you actually win an argument, to the woman you’re not being “emotionally sensitive enough” - you have to admit she is right, even when shes not, because women can’t admit they’re not correct. And, if you just ignore the bitch, its a case of “…woman who subconsciously may want a fight, just to make sure he’s as emotionally invested in the relationship as she is.” and the only way to win would be to stick it in her pooper.
In any case, the lesson to be learned is that not only should women not argue or fight with you, they shouldn’t speak at all. ”
-ED
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:06 pm - IP Man-Hash: e1caec5062137
And it’s manly to ignore feminist trolls. The only women worth spending time online fucking around with are the ones who actually have the forrest gumption to send in a pic of themselves to prove they’re not ugly betty. In closing, HIT THE TREADMILL.
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm - IP Man-Hash: 385cffefaaa53
Eh, you have it wrong there. If they really wanted her to stay they’ld treat her like they did Lady XX and Victorian Lady. Stop projecting.
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:13 pm - IP Man-Hash: 385cffefaaa53
and speaking of that, I want my 1000 bucks in USD, please.
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:30 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7bad730ee08ba
Way to wimp out of a direct challenge. Trying to argue that it would be pointless to have a decent conversation with any female here does not a decent conversation with a female make. I also haven’t seen Doubt conversing with Lady XX or Vic Lady, perhaps you can kindly link to one as an example? I also suspect the former is a man and the latter is on serious pharmaceuticals which prevent her from seeing the obvious truth ’round here. So the decent conversation I am challenging you to demonstrate must be with a newcomer, someone with no preconceptions about this site.
Either demonstrate you can do it, or by not accepting the challenge, prove that you cannot do it, and then send me $1000. I’ll take it in English pound, thank you very much.
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:52 pm - IP Man-Hash: ca3efcb7dae6e
I thought you wouldn’t be so lazy and shortsighted but here we go.
Way to wimp out of a direct challenge.
I don’t see how answering a challenge is wimping out. Are you sure you know how a challenge works?
I also haven’t seen Doubt conversing with Lady XX or Vic Lady, perhaps you can kindly link to one as an example?
As you said.
Yeah, I’m projecting the truth about “you lot” onto everyone’s screens. Just face it boy. Prove to us you are actually able to have a normal, decent conversation with any female that posts here. $1000 you cannot do it.
You never said doubt, you said “you lot” as in a group of people, and never said anything else to point out otherwise.
ALSO: Here is a list of Victorian Lady’s postings. Notice how she isn’t told to get the fuck out like you and the other kids have been?
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/forums/search.php?search_author=V ictorianLady
You might have noticed her if you had bother to look around before projecting. You might try knowing what you’re talking about next time, it saves a lot of time.
I also suspect the former is a man and the latter is on serious pharmaceuticals which prevent her from seeing the obvious truth ’round here.
Right, because they disagree with you they have to be crippled somehow! That makes perfect sense.
So the decent conversation I am challenging you to demonstrate must be with a newcomer, someone with no preconceptions about this site.
Viewing profile :: VictorianLady Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Either demonstrate you can do it, or by not accepting the challenge, prove that you cannot do it, and then send me $1000. I’ll take it in English pound, thank you very much.
Read through again, and kindly send those 1000 bucks to the billboard fund, okay?
March 22nd, 2008 at 6:52 pm - IP Man-Hash: b2dbebe49f248
The only sensible thing I’ve heard you say. Its a shame you dont listen to your own advice tootsie.
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:13 pm - IP Man-Hash: ca3efcb7dae6e
So the decent conversation I am challenging you to demonstrate must be with a newcomer, someone with no preconceptions about this site.
Viewing profile :: VictorianLady Joined: 26 Jul 2007
I’ve noticed this sounds confusing so I’ll fix it for you. Make sure to read it slowly, k?
A: The lady has been here for close to a year, and has talked to the people in the forum for just as long. Even to today. The fact that she hasn’t been ran off or told to fuck off shows that your point was invalid long before you made your silly little bet.
B: no preconceptions
Come on, you and your ilk see the name of the site and immediately come up with immature excuses like “small dick”, “Militant fag” and “mommy issues”. If anything that was either not thought out at all or a hole to squirm out of when someone shot you down. And seeing the way you type, I vote with the first option.
By now you’ve already responded with some kind of idiotic speech so feel free to look like a idiot. Again.
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:17 pm - IP Man-Hash: 822c948329db7
Telling me you got raped as a child- “Personally I couldn’t give a toss about your family. Your personal anecdotes serve no purpose other than to divert discussion”= munch on that one.
Women were only allowed to join the navy in the 1990’s, telling me they have been in it for decades is complete bullshit.
I referred to the bias of the glass ceiling as being a clear but difficult one. Peter and Polly go for a job interview, have the same skills, qualifications, equal candidates, Peter will get the job because they know he won’t fuck off and have a baby anytime soon, which is a sexist assumption, that women want kids, and that if Peter’s wife has a baby he won’t just quit to stay home anyway.
I guess you are religious, probably Catholic. That shit about women being in high regard in religion is bollocks. The bible is a sexist piece of crap. The most highly regarded woman is Mary, her praise comes from her ability to just produce Jesus, a man, and her virtue, virtue is all about whether or whether or not you choose to have relations with a man.
There is only one pope, there is only one queen of England, but when queeny dies, Charles gets the throne, a man, when popey dies, another bloke will take over. I know you understand this and I am sure you realize how stupid it was to bring that up as an argument.
Sorry, men being forced into, and I quote you here, “slavery”? When did this happen exactly? It didn’t. Bitching and whining about shit that never happens and never will happen is what the most retarded feminists do.
You tell me to describe rights women don’t have and men do, and I am telling you this is irrelevant to our converstaion. I am not here advocating specific rights, I am bitching about people being blinded by gender. Again you are assuming that I am here about women’s rights.
You say people from single parent mother families get the raw end of the deal. Where do you get this data? I have never heard this. I also hope you have more than one study to back it up. Everyone knows that when one study finds something, often another study finds the opposite.
I have met many people from single mother families and I would not say that they were more fucked up than the nuclear ones. Also, men from single parent mother families rarely hate their mothers, the men on this site who are bitching in the extremes about women, are therefore probably from these nuclear families you clearly prefer.
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:24 pm - IP Man-Hash: ca3efcb7dae6e
Sorry, men being forced into, and I quote you here, “slavery”? When did this happen exactly? It didn’t. Bitching and whining about shit that never happens and never will happen is what the most retarded feminists do.
That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen you type. You know very little about history, do you?
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:34 pm - IP Man-Hash: d653cff06dec4
“I believe that anything we can come up with in our heads is possible, becasue the physical world is a manifestation of our ideas, beliefs and actions.”
I believe I can merely think of my ex and break apart the the crustal plates under your suburb sending you to the planet’s core to be roasted by it’s fires. Is that kind of like believing you and I are equals?
Tool - Jambi
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:35 pm - IP Man-Hash: 822c948329db7
We are not talking about history! we are talking about the future.
You are making it out like it is currently happening, it is a pressured issue.
If we can do that, then I’ll bring out all the shit women have suffered throughout history too.
Pray tell, why is it dumb and what are your examples of “slavery”?
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:35 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7bad730ee08ba
No Arbalest, I’m afraid you can’t play. Now, if Doubt would come out from behind you, perhaps he can answer whether or not he is taking up the challenge, that was posed directly to him. Must be a newcomer, someone who will type in a way that it should be obvious that she hasn’t read this thread.
A few conditions.
If Doubt accepts the challenge, but it is revealed that one of you men were posing as a chick to help Doubt out that will merely demonstrate childish, pathetic, cheating, incompetence. By which you will demonstrate yourself to be exactly that which you so seem to spew venom about. Imminent loss of man-points for even thinking Tootsie sock-puppeting would be a good cheat - yeah, I’m looking at you Geezer.
The $1000 paid to me must be via PayPal in pounds.
The USD$1000 paid to you will go to the charity of your choice, is this site a charity?
The woman that you have the conversation with must demonstrate she is in fact a female by providing a picture of herself on this site.
Come can’t fairer than that.
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:39 pm - IP Man-Hash: ca3efcb7dae6e
No Arbalest, I’m afraid you can’t play.
Way to wimp out of a challenge.
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:42 pm - IP Man-Hash: 822c948329db7
just checked out that victorian lady’s profile.
She is an anomaly, and we all know how science views anomalies. She is not a woman, she is a man without a cock.
Theres a big fucking difference.
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:43 pm - IP Man-Hash: 7bad730ee08ba
The challenge is not to me, kindly read before you post. The challenge was posed by me, to Doubt. You attempted to derail, why? Do you know or think that Doubt isn’t up to it and therefore you were trying to help him save face? You obviously don’t have much of a belief in him if you thought you needed to prevent the challenge.
Let’s see if he can do it. If he can, then he wins all. If he can’t..well, I’ve made my point.
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:54 pm - IP Man-Hash: ca3efcb7dae6e
We are not talking about history! we are talking about the future.
Sorry, men being “forced” into, and I quote you here, “slavery”? When did this happen exactly? It “didn’t”. Bitching and whining about shit that “never happens” and “never” will happen is what the most retarded feminists do.
You’re full of it. That paragraph is full of terms that are either pass tense or covers the entire concept of time (never).
You are making it out like it is currently happening, it is a pressured issue.
I only said that was the dumbest thing I ever seen you type. Wither not it is happening now or if it’s a pressured issue, saying it’s never happened is stupid.
If we can do that, then I’ll bring out all the shit women have suffered throughout history too.
I won’t even begin to tell you how that sounds.
Pray tell, why is it dumb and what are your examples of “slavery”?
What is dumb is that you can spout that out without batting a eye. Come on, history is full of times when men are treated as slaves outright, let alone the
gender role societies place on men to fight and die for society. You shouldn’t even need someone to tell you this.