Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

P Coderch

lmao. yeah so nice of you men. how kind to build a strip club and to invent prostitution. So generous. pssh shut up!you took advantage of women, and it was for your own selfish pleasure, not for their own good! “so they can get through school, and so they couldn’t have any problems in their lives” lol wow. i admire your generosity. xD lol your looking out for the good of the community! pshhh

Strippers bug me a lot, yeah wow it’s a naked chick big fucking deal!
Doesn’t it bother you that funding strippers is keeping women out of the home to some extents, and putting women through college and law school to a greater extent. Doesn’t that annoy you from a purely hypocritical standpoint? My point is she’s getting 2,000$+ per night to get naked and trapse around being a completely dishonest, useless whore for doing fucking nothing at all on a daily basis! That really fucking annoys me that men go out and waste away their HARD earned weekly paychecks, which maybe only 700$ to 1000$ per week, to pay a useless stupid piece of pussy to take her fucking clothes off, I mean goddamn that pisses me off that a fucking woman can get paid more in one night than a man can get paid in a week!

And that’s why you suck cock for a living, sweet-tits.
Maybe to stop the spread of STDs. How naive and ignorant of that fuckhole to say such a thing. But then, she’s built for fucking, not thinking.
Let me explain:
If the government regulates prostitution, what happens to manholes like you with bulbous canker sores the size of blueberries on your fuckholes? Oh, right, you don’t get a license.
The fuckhole says: But wait, I’ll still have that job as a slutty secretary, right?
That’s irrelevant, but no, you will not. Rather, an ample supply of fuckholes just like you who are clean, tested, and will go down on a client on the off-chance he makes a deal will be available. And they’ll accept minimum wage for unskilled labor, because any red-blooded man knows that you fuckholes are paid in attention, not money.
The money? You just blow that off on weed or blow like the cock-holster you are. Or maybe you eat something and then throw it back up, you stupid whore.
Anyhow, as you can see, with cockholes like you around who think you can be a duelie - built for fucking and thinking - you can see why literature like this has to exist. We can’t have you going around unquestioned, now, can we?

No shit!

maybe to stop the spreading of STDs(if you know what that means)

manhole said:

[TL;DR]

There once was a pauper named Dave
Who stole from a prostitute’s grave
She was missing a tit
And had worms in her clit
But think of the money he saved.

Heinrich_Himmler said:

Prostitution is illegal here for the same reason wimmen HATE strip clubs, porn, and other wimmen….

It’s COMPETITION.

Dick has a very interesting take on the prostitution thing and one i’d never heard before. Maybe its one of many reasons.

Sex is the VERY LAST thing in the USA that hasn’t been branded, commercialized, and given a brand name and copy right. Of course, if they legallized prostitution, this would take about 5 minutes to happen. But quite obviously, there are worse things that happen here, every single day - its my firm belief that the Crazy Korean at VA Tech would not have busted caps on 33 people if he’d gotten laid every night for a week before. Same goes for the two kids at Columbine, for that matter. And there’s not a soul reading this who would have hesitated to chip in for ditto, had they known before the fact.

I guess the obvious message is, we’d rather have murderous, rage-filled, nut cases among us than legalize the ability to “purchase” something that every psychologist or even the frikken mailman could tell you is a basic human need. And if they could we might have a little better bunch of people around us - I live in California and i can tell you it really can’t get much worse!

…But a lot more people would be dying of AIDS and Hepatitis. If prostitution were legal mostly all guys including myself would go through with it contract a disease and spread it to the normal girls they fuck, who will spread it to the next guy. The US would turn into another Africa

Aren’t you contradicting yourself here? If women hate sex, how is prostitution easy money? Aren’t they getting paid for something they hate doing?

Maddy said:

I seriously doubt that any of you guys would be singing the same tune if it were your daughter, sister, mother or wife who was a prostitute. Think about it…if you were the bastard child of a prostitute, would you feel the same way? If your daughter was getting paid to blow strangers, how would you feel about that? Look at it from that standpoint.

No. It is not our fault they chose to do it. They could have gotten a real job instead.

Prostitution is illegal because the government wants to protect it’s monopoly on screwing people.

“I think that’s what the Bible means allegorically speaking when it says Eve ruined the Garden of Eden.”

Didn’t the bible talk about how the WHORE OF BABYLON was a sign of the end times? Isn’t the fact that america is founded on a christian belief system (puritanism and Calvinsim) the reason that prostitution is illegal?

You Fail to asses your facts, and the historical origins of the laws you write about. Therefore, you question it’s illegality on what you percieve, not what the lawmakers percieve

I seriously doubt that any of you guys would be singing the same tune if it were your daughter, sister, mother or wife who was a prostitute. Think about it…if you were the bastard child of a prostitute, would you feel the same way? If your daughter was getting paid to blow strangers, how would you feel about that? Look at it from that standpoint.

Zooliv said:

Of course there is a tremendous difference, for a woman, between rape and consentual, blissful sex. It’s the difference of willingly paying for something that you want, and being robbed.

The woman is, in the blissful sexual experience, using her sexual charms to “purchase” the affections–and maybe the wallet–of the man in question. She has chosen this man, deciding that he is worthy–in terms of his social status, his monetary ability, his physical appearance (which matters though it does not stand alone as a woman’s may for a man) and his demeanor (how he makes her “feel”)–and through those traits she is judging, from biological perspective, whether or not she is willing to potentially have his baby.

A stranger who jumps in without satisfying any of the requirements is potentially, from a biological or evolutionary standpoint, saddling this woman with a child carrying his unworthy genes. He’s sowing the seeds without buying or even renting the field. Someone else tilled the land. He is not a capitalist, who works for a living, he’s the exact opposite–a thief!

To this effect, the difference between the two is huge. A woman who has consensual sex has already done the “math” in her head. Depending on her actual or perceived self worth, this man is worth the cost, and she may be free to enjoy the experience, which is leading her somewhere she wants to go. Whether she’s a girlfriend of a worthy man, or a prostitute for a man who has the required fee, she’s getting what she believes she is worth for ths experience–and if she isn’t, she won’t be happy and will ultimately change her behavior if she is to improve herself. But either way she makes the choice, bad or good.

Rape is the exact opposite. Since a woman’s brain is so focused on not getting stuck with just anybody’s kids, she cannot possibly feel anything but totally violated when she not only has no choice, but doesn’t even know the person. These could be anybody’s genes she will now have to raise! And if he couldn’t find a willing woman, it’s more than likely the genes aren’t too great.

Men think differently because a sexual encounter, in the natural state of being, does not result in his having to raise crummy kids. He doesn’t have to spend nine months gestating and then years raising the kid–unless he chooses to (or in the modern world, is forced to by law, convention, morality, etc–which are irrelevant when we are speaking, as we are, from a biological perspective). So he doesn’t naturally worry all the particularly much about the consequence of an ill-conceived interaction, and even being “raped” by a woman, if such a thing could happen, would not have the same magnitude of psychological consequence for him.

A lot of people on here seem to be able to use logic extremely well up to the point when it doesn’t support what they want to do, and then they abandon it. If you are trying to think from a biological, or evolutionary point of view, then you can’t keep considering sex as an end in itself when taking this approach. While in the modern world, science has allowed us to eliminate many consequences so that it can be treated as such, the fact remains that this urge to have sexual intercourse exists for a biological reason, and a lot of the psychology surrounding it has more to do with those animal instincts and procreation than it does with your personally getting your rocks off.

Moral: the desire of a woman not to be raped is sensible. The fact of it being the same ACTION as consensual sex is irrelevant–as is the fact of saying I like eating steak, why shouldn’t I close my eyes and let a potentially malevolent stranger feed me WHATEVER, because it’s all eating. Yes, but you don’t know if this person is going to be feeding you shards of glass, wet concrete, or acetone–and unlike with food, with sex you won’t necessarily know the difference until years down the road!

So - is Rape a daring and revolutionary act? Like a new art movement or scientific discovery? Is rape the pinnacle of MANliness? It would seem to be.

A said:. You’re an interesting psychological case.

And you would know, because you hold multiple PhD’s in that area, don’t you? What… you don’t?

But of course, some idiot has to come and ruin everything.

Are you looking in the mirror while you post?

Yes, you just had to come by didn’t you? Besides, you’re projecting again. You still haven’t learned better have you?

And there arbalest goes again. If you do not explicitly mention poor “victimes of female pedophiles or rapists” in your post and degrade women, then you are completely wrong in his book. Really, he must have been raped or abused in his youth by women, and now nourishes great hatred towards them. You’re an interesting psychological case.
For once someone said something interesting. Zoolig’s post was very true, although those are not the only reasons rape is seen as such a traumatic thing by women. I would imagine victimes of rape would feel soiled and cheated out of their dignity and humanity. There are other reasons, but overall, you summed it up very well.
But of course, some idiot has to come and ruin everything.

Of course there is a tremendous difference, for a woman, between rape and consentual, blissful sex. It’s the difference of willingly paying for something that you want, and being robbed.

See above.

The woman is, in the blissful sexual experience, using her sexual charms to “purchase” the affections–and maybe the wallet–of the man in question. She has chosen this man, deciding that he is worthy–in terms of his social status, his monetary ability, his physical appearance (which matters though it does not stand alone as a woman’s may for a man) and his demeanor (how he makes her “feel”)–and through those traits she is judging, from biological perspective, whether or not she is willing to potentially have his baby.

For one, remove maybe. Two, women have a shitty sense of worth, only thinking of two of those “worthy attributes” at once. Let’s take the teenage single mothers for example. When they “allowed” their men to have sex with them(which is silly because last time I checked sex was a equal partnership)
, did those girls take the time to see if their boyfriends were capable of supporting them or the child that will be created sooner or later? Did they take the time to see if they were able to handle the relationship with sex involved? Of course not. They believe that their love is more important then what anyone thinks(or if they can handle the responsibilities and consequences of sex ) and proceed to have sex anyway.

“in terms of his social status, his monetary ability, ” And then you have the other side of women, who will marry a man not because they love him or they like the way he looks, but for his wallet pure and simple. And the minute the man runs out of money and social worth, the woman will leave him (with child) and live off of alimony and child support until they find the next poor sap to feed off of like a parasite.

–and through those traits she is judging, from biological perspective, whether or not she is willing to potentially have his baby.

And let it be known that women of the present think not at all about a baby until they have to deal with one. If so you would not have women going with the men who do not or care not care with children. Women are selfish that way.

A stranger who jumps in without satisfying any of the requirements is potentially, from a biological or evolutionary standpoint, saddling this woman with a child carrying his unworthy genes. He’s sowing the seeds without buying or even renting the field. Someone else tilled the land. He is not a capitalist, who works for a living, he’s the exact opposite–a thief!

Problem A: Half of the time the man isn’t completely to blame. There are thousands of cases of men being tricked by women into having sex with them AND being forced into taking care of another man’s child because the woman will not admit they cheated on another man.

Problem B:Saddling? Considering a child as a burden only shows the inherent selfishness of the woman. While they are hard to work with and raise properly, a child is a joy to take care of. And that’s IF they get pregnant in the first place. That paragraph assumes that each and every rape leads to pregnancy, giving undue negative attributes towards children who’ve had nothing to do with their creation.

Problem C: Again you’re assuming all rapists are men. What of the men forced to take care of children because the women caught them half-awake or drunk and had their way with them? Where is your disdain and disgust for those women neh?

To this effect, the difference between the two is huge. A woman who has consensual sex has already done the “math” in her head. Depending on her actual or perceived self worth, this man is worth the cost, and she may be free to enjoy the experience, which is leading her somewhere she wants to go. Whether she’s a girlfriend of a worthy man, or a prostitute for a man who has the required fee, she’s getting what she believes she is worth for ths experience–and if she isn’t, she won’t be happy and will ultimately change her behavior if she is to improve herself. But either way she makes the choice, bad or good.

I’ll let someone else answer you there.

Rape is the exact opposite. Since a woman’s brain is so focused on not getting stuck with just anybody’s kids, she cannot possibly feel anything but totally violated when she not only has no choice, but doesn’t even know the person. These could be anybody’s genes she will now have to raise! And if he couldn’t find a willing woman, it’s more than likely the genes aren’t too great.

Again, assuming all rapists are men. AND the worth thing is quite annoying and infantile, showing a prejudice against poor people. Rich people aren’t capable of rape?

Men think differently because a sexual encounter in the natural state of being, does not result in his having to raise crummy kids.

As a man let me tell you, not only is that sexist that is also untrue. We have plenty of men paying child support for 18 years, let alone the men who can’t get to their kids because of false abuse charges. Many children are not only forced to grow up without a father, but are told by the mother that daddy doesn’t care for them. By assuming that herd mentality you are celebrating the act of depriving fathers of their kids.

He doesn’t have to spend nine months gestating: No he just has to pay for the child for 18 years, even if he doesn’t get to see said child. And..

and then years raising the kid–unless he chooses to (or in the modern world,is forced to by law, convention, morality, etc–which are irrelevant when we are speaking, as we are, from a biological perspective).

Okay, OR? Many men would GLADLY take care of their child unless they find out the child is not theirs and the woman is just trying to latch unto the nearest host body. Hell, many men take care of the child EVEN AFTER finding out otherwise. and Morality is not being “forced” by any means, it is simply doing what you believe to be right. Force by morality is a oxymoron.

So he doesn’t naturally worry all the particularly much about the consequence of an ill-conceived interaction: Bullshit. I know I am not currently capable of caring for a child therefore I’ve decided not to have sex at all. Your arguement is incompetent.

, and even being “raped” by a woman, if such a thing could happen: You’ve just insulted the victims of countless female pedophiles, vicious female rapists, and have fed into the herd mentality that men are nothing more then beasts. Shame on you.

would not have the same magnitude of psychological consequence for him. See above. Bullshit.

A lot of people on here seem to be able to use logic extremely well up to the point when it doesn’t support what they want to do, and then they abandon it.

You have shown that you are not capable of using logic to its full capabilities.
In fact you have shown yourself to be a hypocrite and a fool, only pursuing logic when it suits you.

If you are trying to think from a biological, or evolutionary point of view, then you can’t keep considering sex as an end in itself when taking this approach.

That’s circular logic. You need not look at something from a point of view but only search into the subject itself. Point of views are nothing but evolved bias.

While in the modern world, science has allowed us to eliminate many consequences so that it can be treated as such, the fact remains that this urge to have sexual intercourse exists for a biological reason, and a lot of the psychology surrounding it has more to do with those animal instincts and procreation than it does with your “personally getting your rocks off.”

While that true, that is also common sense tipped with another shaming remark, seeing how getting your rocks off is usually attributed towards men.

Moral: the desire “of a woman” not to be raped is sensible.

More common sense tipped with bias proving that you’re not someone who should be speaking of “morality”

The fact of it being the same ACTION as consensual sex is irrelevant: Duh.

–as is the fact of saying I like eating steak, why shouldn’t I close my eyes and let a potentially malevolent stranger feed me WHATEVER, because it’s all eating.

Now we have common sense tipped with a overly worded put down aimed at your audience by assuming that because we do not have the ability to see rape as what it is, you must relate it to something as simple as eating to get the point across

Yes, but you don’t know if this person is going to be feeding you shards of glass, wet concrete, or acetone

More common sense tinged with bias

–and unlike with food, with sex you won’t necessarily know the difference until years down the road!

Oh there are so many things wrong with that. Logically, if a baby takes six months to be born, that is not a year. AND it’s ignoring the very psychology of sex and rape, which causes instantaneous results good or bad.

With your attempt to lecture others you have only proved yourself to be biased and shortsighted in your opinion, focused more on being superior and
educating people lower then you then actually using logic and morality to what it should be used for. Be gone and try researching what you think before lecturing.

Of course there is a tremendous difference, FOR A WOMAN, between rape and consentual, blissful sex. It’s the difference of willingly paying for something that you want, and being robbed.

Dude, you lost me at that. By considering only for women that there’s a difference you’re no better then the lying rape victims.

Of course there is a tremendous difference, for a woman, between rape and consentual, blissful sex. It’s the difference of willingly paying for something that you want, and being robbed.

The woman is, in the blissful sexual experience, using her sexual charms to “purchase” the affections–and maybe the wallet–of the man in question. She has chosen this man, deciding that he is worthy–in terms of his social status, his monetary ability, his physical appearance (which matters though it does not stand alone as a woman’s may for a man) and his demeanor (how he makes her “feel”)–and through those traits she is judging, from biological perspective, whether or not she is willing to potentially have his baby.

A stranger who jumps in without satisfying any of the requirements is potentially, from a biological or evolutionary standpoint, saddling this woman with a child carrying his unworthy genes. He’s sowing the seeds without buying or even renting the field. Someone else tilled the land. He is not a capitalist, who works for a living, he’s the exact opposite–a thief!

To this effect, the difference between the two is huge. A woman who has consensual sex has already done the “math” in her head. Depending on her actual or perceived self worth, this man is worth the cost, and she may be free to enjoy the experience, which is leading her somewhere she wants to go. Whether she’s a girlfriend of a worthy man, or a prostitute for a man who has the required fee, she’s getting what she believes she is worth for ths experience–and if she isn’t, she won’t be happy and will ultimately change her behavior if she is to improve herself. But either way she makes the choice, bad or good.

Rape is the exact opposite. Since a woman’s brain is so focused on not getting stuck with just anybody’s kids, she cannot possibly feel anything but totally violated when she not only has no choice, but doesn’t even know the person. These could be anybody’s genes she will now have to raise! And if he couldn’t find a willing woman, it’s more than likely the genes aren’t too great.

Men think differently because a sexual encounter, in the natural state of being, does not result in his having to raise crummy kids. He doesn’t have to spend nine months gestating and then years raising the kid–unless he chooses to (or in the modern world, is forced to by law, convention, morality, etc–which are irrelevant when we are speaking, as we are, from a biological perspective). So he doesn’t naturally worry all the particularly much about the consequence of an ill-conceived interaction, and even being “raped” by a woman, if such a thing could happen, would not have the same magnitude of psychological consequence for him.

A lot of people on here seem to be able to use logic extremely well up to the point when it doesn’t support what they want to do, and then they abandon it. If you are trying to think from a biological, or evolutionary point of view, then you can’t keep considering sex as an end in itself when taking this approach. While in the modern world, science has allowed us to eliminate many consequences so that it can be treated as such, the fact remains that this urge to have sexual intercourse exists for a biological reason, and a lot of the psychology surrounding it has more to do with those animal instincts and procreation than it does with your personally getting your rocks off.

Moral: the desire of a woman not to be raped is sensible. The fact of it being the same ACTION as consensual sex is irrelevant–as is the fact of saying I like eating steak, why shouldn’t I close my eyes and let a potentially malevolent stranger feed me WHATEVER, because it’s all eating. Yes, but you don’t know if this person is going to be feeding you shards of glass, wet concrete, or acetone–and unlike with food, with sex you won’t necessarily know the difference until years down the road!