Women Stop Learning in 8th Grade

Recently, I had the misfortune of hearing a woman’s thoughts on the world:

“You know, Shakespeare said all lawyers should be killed and the world would be better.”

I don’t remember how she said it exactly or what her fucking point was, but that’s my nearest approximation of how a poorly educated fifth grade student would say something about Shakespeare. That is how women talk and think with their brains after all — like poorly educated fifth graders.

This brings me to my point. Women don’t learn shit after 8th grade. They should be allowed to go home straightaway.

Think about it for yourself. Every time you’re in a discussion about anything from art to politics, where do women try to ham-fistedly steer the conversation? What are their remarks? 100% of the time, you’ll find them spouting some bullshit about Shakespeare or Camus (or The Classics depending on which side of the sea you’re suffering the feminine mouth), but it’s all the fucking same. It’s all shit you were required to learn to pass the eighth fucking grade.

Quoting shit that is required learning at some point in everyone’s life only makes you look smart if you’re in the fucking Congo — not at my house. Does demonstrating the proper use of a lighter or a mirror make you look like some kind of magical bullshit shaman? Well apparently it does if you’re a woman. Apparently that’s how it works. Everyone’s got to pretend to be fucking stupid for ten minutes while you point out the moral of Great Expectations. Fuck off.

Don’t get me wrong. It’s a novelty in the 8th grade. Look at how smart I am! I can quote something from a play that was written hundreds of years ago and loosely tie it to a modern day event! Good for me! Hooray school!

Fuck school.

School is great while you’re in it, but as a man, when you’re out you shut the fuck up about it. See, women’s brains fill like baby bottles by the time they’ve hit grade eight. Sure a few might make it into the second week or so of 9th, but ultimately the smaller female mind is not built to finish public education.

It’s because of their hormones, obviously. At some point women are too obsessed with sex to concentrate long enough to learn anything new — things like learning how to read a map or balancing the checkbook, or shutting the fuck up to avoid embarrassing everyone who’s ever known you.

You know what else Shakespeare said?

“Do you not know I am a woman? when I think, I must speak.”

But “As You Like It” isn’t part of the primary school curriculum is it. Fuck off.

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Comment by Haha89
2009-10-01 16:17:17 - IP Man-Hash: b2a3745f0d705

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Comment by Jack-The-Ripper
2009-09-09 04:04:59 - IP Man-Hash: 39b9dbce406f6

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Comment by james
2009-09-09 03:55:40 - IP Man-Hash: 36dcf6ef41402

jesus, is this website a joke? i mean, i am a guy, and i think this is the most fucking funny thing on the internet. i mean, who reads this shit. this guys sounds like he got dumped and now hates all women! god no offense to the guy who wrote this, but try to get a life!

Comment by Jack-The-Ripper
2009-09-09 03:59:43 - IP Man-Hash: 39b9dbce406f6

ALL THE MEN RISE UP! ALL THE BROTHERS RISE UP! TRACK FIND AND HUNT DOWN THESE MAN HATING FEMINIST WHORE BITCHES GET YOUR SHOT GUNS AND BLOW THEIR CUNTS WIDE OPEN! ALL HAIL PATRIARCHY! ALL HAIL PATRIARCHY! ALL HAIL PATRIARCHY

 
 
Comment by Peter
2009-01-28 16:05:23 - IP Man-Hash: b86c5bae8070e

I know that because you have a vagina you suck at doing anything remotely linked to computers, but your caps lock is on.

Ow and to the fellow Dutch guy: Firefox comes with a Spelling check.

 
Comment by Casey
2008-11-15 23:57:46 - IP Man-Hash: bb131826995fe

i AM A WOMEN. i HATE STUDYING BASKET WEAVING. . i HAVE STUDIED CHEMISTRY AND ENGINEERING.

not all women obsess over shakespeare.

the THE PROBLEM with YOU MEN…ARE THE FOLLOWING…

1st off, most of you are basket weaving majors yourselves…

2nd off…any female with an ounce of brains scares the hell out of you. so YOU PURSUE THE BIMBO.

3rd off….the bimbo has been sucked up too, since she bloats most men’s egos….so SHE TREATS YOU LIKE SHIT…..

4th off…the WOMEN YOU WILL TREAT YOU RIGHT ARE THE ONES NONE OFF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO DATE….

5th off… YOU’D RATHER PLACATE YOUR EGO WITH AN OBNOXIOUS BITCH THAN ANY WOMEN WHO WAS MORE EDUCATED THEN YOU….

6th…. pull that shit and no wonder you are burned…..

7th off… GET OFF YOUR EGO, GROW A PAIR, THEN YOU WILL BE TRULY HAPPY…

8th off….MEN LOVE BALL BREAKING COSMO READERS…SO NO WONDER YOU”RE UP SHIT CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE..

9th off….GROW A PAIR AND DATE A WOMEN YOU LIKE RATHER THAN AN EGO BOOSTER…

10th off… YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MORONS WITH

NO ONE>>>>NO ONE….

TO BLAME>>>>
BUT YOURSELVES…

Comment by Mike_D
2008-12-03 08:26:06 - IP Man-Hash: e0f0a45876d85

“4th off…the WOMEN YOU WILL TREAT YOU RIGHT ARE THE ONES NONE OFF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO DATE….”

Knowing that women are entirely self-centered 100% of the time, it’s obvious you are saying that YOU know how to treat a man right yet we dont have the balls to date you. Which like everything a woman says is complete bullshit.

It’s painfully obvious from what you just posted, you haven’t the slightest clue how to treat a man. So let me educate you a little bit:

1. Shut the fuck up.

2. Listen to a man.

That’s all there is to it. Now if you want to fuck Dick (which is also painfully obvious) stop posting on his website which you are not allowed to even be on and send him an email w/ pics included.

 
Comment by eatme
2009-05-08 14:22:11 - IP Man-Hash: f416cd0f3ff1e

hey love, these guys are tards. dont take serious offense. who cares what they think anyway, they’re actually lame enough to come up with a website to hate the one thing they can’t stop chasing:pussy. Eitherway, they’re quite dispensable. Check out the blog for the economist over at UMichigan, who happens to be a man. The “mancession” has men being fired 10:7.

Comment by Muzalon
2009-05-08 15:34:13 - IP Man-Hash: 752bb553c0dea

It’s an Anglo-fag!!!

 
 
 
Comment by Casey
2008-11-15 23:49:06 - IP Man-Hash: bb131826995fe

oh, dick, dick. you are either have a sense of humor or are a complete moron. i don’t find myself obsessive over shakespear.

I AM FEMALE,,,, MAJORED IN CHEMISTRY AND ENGINEERING.

MUST SAY THAT I THINK THAT MOST OF THESE IDIOT MEN PROB. PICKED BASKETWEAVING MAJORS.

all the girls i know are well above average or top of the class in our chemistry, physics, and computer depts.

but let’s face it. guys like you love the bimbo. then you get burned by the bimbo. then you blame the feminist, the girl with any bit of brains.

what pisses you off the most is you realize, any girl with brains, and any depth,

hates cosmo,

and would treat you very well….

the problem is NONE OF YOU GUYS HAVE THE BALLS TO DATE HER. even if she is a size 2!!!!

b/c you date a moron to feel like a genius, the weak to feel strong, etc….

why should any of us feel sorry for you again? you decided to dig your own grave long ago….

 
Comment by Saturn V
2008-10-26 19:02:02 - IP Man-Hash: 7d1f84ad8788b

A sizable chunk people are incapable of understanding concepts past the eight grade level or so, males included. This is why most people didn’t used to take a prep school track and go to college, but took shop and other similar classes in high school and then got a basic job. Now everyone goes, to study poli sci or communications or some other bullshit major, and it’s pathetic, but it certainly isn’t a female-only phenomenon.

Comment by RB
2008-10-26 19:24:30 - IP Man-Hash: 75ce450b66746

It certainly is a female only phenomenon.I call a 90% female majority in whimmin studies a female-only phenomenon.

Comment by Saturn V
2008-10-29 14:19:38 - IP Man-Hash: 0cca206278c66

Well duh, it’s called women studies, of course that particular major is going to be full of women. Would you expect queer studies to have a majority of straight people? I speak of the wishy-washy branches of the humanities in general, n ot just the one obvious waste of time.

Comment by RB
2008-10-29 19:51:33 - IP Man-Hash: 6089ec5253d00

You said it certainly is not a female-only phenomenon.I said it is.Moral of story-women’s studies are a load of crap, like most women themselves.Period.

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Comment by Saturn V
2008-11-01 22:03:45 - IP Man-Hash: d893d3a649bfc

There are plenty of other worthless humanities majors. I wasn’t referring specifically to women studies, but to a vast wasteland of worthless majors that have both men and women in them.

 
Comment by RB
2008-11-01 22:36:30 - IP Man-Hash: 3922d4519cee7

Where do you live?Is there an equal number of men and women in the political science or sociology class of your local college?No?Then stop dragging on about this.I know what you meant, and I responded accordingly.

 
Comment by Saturn V
2008-11-01 23:53:27 - IP Man-Hash: d893d3a649bfc

I go to a very large university, where the overall male to female ratio is skewed towards females, which is actually an average condition for US universities now, so I couldn’t be expected to count heads and the number would be worthless if I did. However, I could care less about the exact amount of difference, since I’m going for a qualitative understanding. Men pursue these worthless majors in numbers large enough to be a significant trend. The trend is that there are a lot of people who go to college now who probably shouldn’t. This is not just women, it is the bottom section of people based on intellect. The idea I’m trying to get across is that there’s a large chunk of people in general who are quite stupid, and if you compared the stupid women to stupid men, it’d probably come out about even, on a nice little bell curve of ability. Most of the people you interact with at any given time are likely to be stupid, believing that this confined to women is just the fundamental attribution error applied from a gender based perspective instead of a personal one.

 
Comment by RB
2008-11-02 00:12:15 - IP Man-Hash: 3922d4519cee7

I don’t know which university you go to or what course you take.But if you consider most of the people you meet, especially the men, to be stupid, then you are not very intelligent yourself

I know female:male ratio in U.S education is becoming more and more uneven.The reason for something like this happening is that women are going into education more than men now.They are not opting for the useful courses, but the worthless ones, which would eventually lead them to nothing but having a degree.

A portion of men are also going into these courses, but their number is much lesser than the women.The men who can study, study.Most of the ones who cant, do something useful instead.That’s not the case with most women.If you are at an university where men and women number the same or even nearly the same in the liberal arts groups, then I would like to know the name of that university.

 
Comment by Saturn V
2008-11-02 00:51:25 - IP Man-Hash: d893d3a649bfc

I’m not comparing the men/women ratio in the sciences to the men/women ratio in the liberal arts, or the ratio of men in science to men in liberal arts, I’m just noting that there are a lot of men in the liberal arts. They might pick more “manly” seeming liberal arts like poli sci, but they’re there in large numbers. They don’t “do something useful instead” because everyone expects them to go to college, so they do. They should go into trade school, but those hardly exist anymore. Here’s the hard fact: whatever the average is, 50% of people are going to be below it. Think of what the average intellect is. Someone of that level might belong in university, might not. Now think how many people below that level go. My high school had a stupid policy, one being adopted in more places throughout the nation, that unless you are going into the military, you have to be accepted into and going to college to graduate.

The original point I was trying to make long ago was that most people aren’t up to critical analysis of Shakespeare, or anything of that level, male or female alike. If you self-select your colleagues and friends to surround yourself men of your intelligence, and drive off all the women who might be there too, you’re going to be around a lot of average and below females, who like the average person in general, isn’t all that bright.

 
Comment by RB
2008-11-02 02:10:01 - IP Man-Hash: 3922d4519cee7

You, Saturn V, are not bright.It is evident from your post.So do not compare yourself with bright people.

 
Comment by Saturn V
2008-11-02 11:36:26 - IP Man-Hash: d893d3a649bfc

I hate to resort to this, but at least I have a much better grasp of English grammar and the written word in general than you. How is it evident from my posts that I am not bright, except that I do not agree with you? Someone can be intelligent while not holding the same worldview you do.

 
Comment by Reality Check
2008-11-02 14:01:35 - IP Man-Hash: dd9630ac70cd7

Actually believe it or not people that complete college are not more intelligent. They blow chunks of money on a degree thinking it makes them “superior” to blue collar workers.

Honestly the behaviorism of college students can be more idiotic/narcissistic than that of high school students.

How do I know? I went to college. Did I come out more successful? Nope. I got successful based on self study and my creativity.

Look at Bill Gates. Did he go to college? Look at Einstein. Brilliant man but he had trouble tying shoes.

Sorry Saturn but “college” is not an accurate gauge of IQ. If anything college is simply a “status symbol” in the states and there are many university grads that flip burgers.

 
Comment by Saturn V
2008-11-02 14:14:20 - IP Man-Hash: d893d3a649bfc

That’s exactly what I’m fucking saying!! I’m saying that just because these people go to college doesn’t mean they’re smart! I said exactly that most of those people would be better off as blue collar workers and that college should be left to people who are going to do something with their degree that they couldn’t do otherwise and will benefit society, like being a surgeon. Is reading comprehension beyond everyone these days?

 
Comment by Reality Check
2008-11-02 14:40:23 - IP Man-Hash: dd9630ac70cd7

Funny, but at one point I thought you implied going to college was only for smart people. However I could have not “comprehended” your wording properly.

You sure did go “pms” over a minor error though. I apologize. But you know what? You could of handled a simple “error in communication” much more gracefully.

That’s another problem with females at large. When they see blood and an exposed flank they attack viciously with no remorse.

No one wants to be involved with someone that is going to criticize them and attack them at every available opportunity.

You know what many women love more than attacking a fault? Attacking someone when they shine and are at their height. Shrews love seeing the fall of a great visionary. They get off on it.

Piranhas are not sexy no matter how much make up they wear.

 
Comment by Muzalon
2008-12-03 09:22:26 - IP Man-Hash: c0af16fdd85cf

Saturn

That’s only because English is but one of the languages RB speaks; nor is it his native tongue.

I do agree about too many retards attending university, however. It is much like going to the supermarket, these days: everybody does it.

 
Comment by Muzalon
2008-12-03 09:29:43 - IP Man-Hash: c0af16fdd85cf

I recall reading that female college graduates in the USA earn about the same as male high school graduates. I bet trade trade school guys earn considerably more than most female graduates. In Britain, plumbers and other skilled blue collar workers now earn far more than most female graduates.

 
Comment by RB
2008-12-03 09:33:54 - IP Man-Hash: 9c6b22f39e4e0

All university going students – male and female, are very narcissistic at one point – especially the females.SaturnV is a prime example of that.

 
Comment by RB
2008-12-03 09:35:11 - IP Man-Hash: 9c6b22f39e4e0

Oh by the way Muzalon, I read your new blogs.They were all more or less spot on.You should join the mabtw forums and post your thoughts.

RB

 
Comment by eatme
2009-05-08 14:28:54 - IP Man-Hash: f416cd0f3ff1e

saturn- i got your point.

 
Comment by eatme
2009-05-08 14:28:55 - IP Man-Hash: f416cd0f3ff1e

saturn- i got your point.

 
Comment by Muzalon
2009-05-08 15:38:48 - IP Man-Hash: 752bb553c0dea

It clearly took some time to sink in…

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by holland
2008-10-09 04:52:59 - IP Man-Hash: 532e476385b7b

First of all you don’t own us..ever realized the united states have a debt of 2298 billion dollars. So acutally you don’t own shit. And about the euro just watch how we will climb up the ladder again and then take a crap over you while you are stil lying on the floor.
There’s a reason why the country’s in Europa are working so close together. the reason is that we don’t have to be dependend on the united fucking states anymore. this is called the europian union (FYI)
What about the states you either get a nigger or a warmonger for president.
It’s not who’s the best it’s who will do the least damage.
Just watch and see how this economy will fuck you up :)
can’t buy clothes for your whorish wife? she will leave you in a split second because you are just a piece of shit.
Or you wanna say you are still using your hand and never had sex?

 
Comment by holland
2008-10-02 07:35:46 - IP Man-Hash: 532e476385b7b

Well I thought that Amerika was diffrent….men hate woman well thats a subject….there are worse problems than that…..like WAR.
this is childess we all are lauching at you (men)

Comment by Detached
2008-10-02 09:29:21 - IP Man-Hash: 69a105d9565f7

Why don’t you fuck off you fop. Nex time we will let the russians liberate you from the damn germans. Say hi to Putin for me.

 
Comment by holland
2008-10-09 04:04:05 - IP Man-Hash: 532e476385b7b

well then again who is helping you with constructing your dykes ? New orleans any one?
the niggers couldn’t swim like shit.
And what about the oh so great america, you still live in your house or are you being forced sell the piece of shit?
I’ll buy it for 10Euro’s..thats about 100.000 dollars these days you know.
Talk to you after the ressesion when you are living in a trash can bitch :)

Comment by Le'Mat
2008-10-09 04:19:26 - IP Man-Hash: bec1b85f93484

It’s funny how this troll talks about our economy, when his economy is so dependent on ours that it tanks at the exact same time. The Euro is nothing, Ireland already fucked that shit up. Our recession is your recession… or haven’t you realized that we already own whatever shithole you live in?

We just let you live there.

Comment by Le'Mat
2008-10-09 04:20:31 - IP Man-Hash: bec1b85f93484

Oh, and Holland?

Go stick your finger in a dike, little dutch boy…

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Comment by John_Petrucci
2008-09-07 19:39:51 - IP Man-Hash: 05de0fd3c213a

Well, I hope you all know that there are women out there with hopes and dreams for the future. Not just babysitting, not just cleaning up after others, but actual goals in life. As BIZARRE as it may seem, we have a life. And some of us want to live it to the fullest, no matter how “dumb” we are. =)

Comment by Muzalon
2008-10-02 08:13:44 - IP Man-Hash: cda6f78f70dc6

Usually at some man’s expense.

 
Comment by Detached
2008-10-02 09:30:20 - IP Man-Hash: 69a105d9565f7

Yeah, they are hoping and dreaming of landing a rich husband. Go buy another cosmopolitan mag and learn 51 ways to not suck in bed.

 
 
Comment by thisisstupid
2008-09-07 19:32:52 - IP Man-Hash: 3a62a6072de9d

….. I think DIck is mad ‘cuz he sucked at school after 8th grade. I probably have a better math and science education then he does. I may be in Ninth, but i go to a magnet school, and I’m in a magnet honors class, so technically, I’m in a tenth grade honors class.

And half the men on this site are uneducated idiots. :D

Once again, “ignorance is bliss!!” And your lives must be muchos blissful. People like you are at fault for global warming.

 
Comment by Victoria
2008-07-18 13:23:09 - IP Man-Hash: adfc6a2d5f8d6

King Wang said:

Damn, I see the feminazi’s who lose arguments because of their 8th grade education and lack of inventive invectives really keep these old posts alive.

Cool. I am going over to another article and top-posting, that way, I might get a post in that no man will argue and beat my ass at……..

Do you believe everything you red on here you naive gullible boy

 
Comment by David Evans
2008-06-28 11:35:44 - IP Man-Hash: 7063be34d10f5

Patricia said:

I don’t care what you think…oh wait, you don’t think, do you?

Hahahaha, typical female, typical response.

 
Comment by /m/an
2008-05-20 21:24:50 - IP Man-Hash: 42a5e665c6a3f

female said:

im past 8th grade and guess what. IM FUCKING LEARNING SO THAT UR SHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE NO ONE FUCKING CARES AND WOMEN AND MEN ARE EQUAL. WE ALL ADD BENEFITS TO SOCIETY AND NOT JUST TO DO THE HOUSEWORK AND SHIT. AND NOT JUST TO BE SOMETHING YOU CAN FUCK WHEN YOU GET HOME!

CAPS LOCK is not appropriate all the time. If you are learning as you stated, then how come you are not using the skills learned in English class. UR, the last time I checked, is not a word. Please use proper English language and grammar as it helps everybody understand. Also, manners, we certainly have a dirty mouth.

Comment by John
2008-07-24 05:28:18 - IP Man-Hash: 571a53d0ad583

“WE ALL ADD BENEFITS TO SOCIETY AND NOT JUST TO DO THE HOUSEWORK AND SHIT.”

I think women would contribute more to society by looking after the house, *properly* raising our next generation, and supporting their husbands rather than displacing more capable men from the workforce, and underperforming in jobs intended for men whilst blaming their lack of innate aptitude on glass ceiling sexism.

Comment by Muzalon
2008-10-02 08:17:42 - IP Man-Hash: cda6f78f70dc6

Note how women always agitate to be managers and politicians, never deep-sea welders, bomb disposal experts or anything demanding/dangerous…

Feminism is just cherry -picking by entitled fat cunts.

 
 
 
Comment by /m/an
2008-05-20 21:19:20 - IP Man-Hash: 42a5e665c6a3f

while this is not true for all women as generalizations are, they are true for most of them. I would estimate about 80% or so. Also refrigerators were invented by a Jacob Perkins way back in the 1800’s.

 
Comment by Matt
2008-05-19 15:54:44 - IP Man-Hash: 2bf9071d7785e

Detached said:

Here’s the fact. Women learn by remembering. As they get older they have to remember things like birthdays and periods, to take their pill and mundane shit like that.

A woman will read and prescribe to memory a function but will not understand the way it works, just glibly memorizing the controls/dynamics.

When you find a so called intelligent woman, they bleat multi-syllabic words they heard somewhere else and if you dig a little deeper into their understanding of the issue you will find only a surface knowledge but no deep understanding.

This is why women make excellent cooks and cocksuckers but engineers, scientists and leaders? Not so much.

Bingo.

Comment by John
2008-07-24 05:05:57 - IP Man-Hash: 571a53d0ad583

I would say this is spot on.

Women have much more tendency to learn by rote, at the level of basal knowledge and facts. In my line of work, they seem to depend heavily on guidelines, protocols and recommended algorithms to do their work. Most of them (with a few exceptions) lack the subtle insight to “get” the fundamental nature of what they’re doing at the level of principle and being able to modify and adapt these principles to diverse situations.

Those few who do perform as well as men in this capacity tend to be of a particular archetype: psychometrically masculine (like football and beer) and a low 2D:4D digit ratio (ie. cerebrally virilised). Enough said.

 
Comment by John_Petrucci
2008-09-07 19:36:46 - IP Man-Hash: 05de0fd3c213a

Oh, well, if that’s your outlook on women, then I suggest you meet more of them. Trust me, we dig deep. And not in that way, faggot.

 
 
Comment by raulo
2008-05-19 15:09:43 - IP Man-Hash: 5884879926c9f

I feel you are full of hate about one woman. Women learn in their entire life. Men, please get relaxed!

 
Comment by doubt
2008-05-16 16:28:30 - IP Man-Hash: e609ee1fbc305

manhole said:
Piss off the feminist troll!

What do you do when your manhole is running around and bleeding in your motel room?
Fuck her again!

 
Comment by female
2008-05-16 14:30:31 - IP Man-Hash: 1c4907ed03678

im past 8th grade and guess what. IM FUCKING LEARNING SO THAT UR SHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE NO ONE FUCKING CARES AND WOMEN AND MEN ARE EQUAL. WE ALL ADD BENEFITS TO SOCIETY AND NOT JUST TO DO THE HOUSEWORK AND SHIT. AND NOT JUST TO BE SOMETHING YOU CAN FUCK WHEN YOU GET HOME!
TheNotSoExtremeMaleSupremacist Says:

June 28th, 2007 at 4:46 am – IP Man-Hash: 0edc87a160c4c
… we can bye…

um yeah i dont think men learn after first grade bc BUY is a second grade word. jeez go to school.

Comment by David
2010-01-07 05:06:38 - IP Man-Hash: 0869feae7e64b

bitch

 
 
Comment by Joseph
2008-05-15 00:24:09 - IP Man-Hash: 35ab21bf6af5e

Devlin said:

I think that any woman who is your wife or girlfriend, I feel sorry for, and I don’t really think that if a woman who had a job, earning her income would stay with you for very long, especially not here in the U.S.

True. She would work long enough to sucker him in, quit and go to court to collect an insurance annuity- vaginamomy or child support. But an independent woman does not need a man and so your point is moot.

 

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