Climbing Mount Everest does not become a greater achievement for one particular gender if the other has done exactly the same thing. If women were only doing something as great as climbing Mount Everest to create an argument with men, then they wouldn’t have done it more than forty times. You seem to have made the classic “macho” man mistake of living in a deluded world where every woman revolves around you. Women do amazing things because we want to, not to create an argument with men.

The only difference between men and women climbing Everest is that if a man fails people will say he does not have what it takes, but if a woman fails people will say women do not have what it takes.

Excellent point “The Man”.

Nicole, it is more interesting when men do it because they do it to achieve something, women on the other hand, simply to draw men into arguments like this. Us men have a structured busy life to engage with, which makes fitting in climbing Everest amongst providing for the weaker sex an even greater achievement.

This brings us back round to my point of that just because you don’t care, doesn’t mean nobody does.

What exactly is so much more interesting about men climbing Everest, than women doing exactly the same thing?

Dicks comment was made for the purpose of illustrating the fact that no one cares, as Dan previously stated.

Of course it’s relevant, Dicks comment was that no women have climbed Everest probably, and I proved that many have. Which destroys Dicks opinion that “how can they even understand the concept of time wasted when they have nothing to do with it otherwise”. We obviously have achieved great things.

That would imply that what you have to say is relevent.

If you have nothing relevent to say then I suggest you say nothing at all.

To the men: great points all around

Nicole: I will never get tired of you personifying Dick’s preachings, keep up the work. If you are wondering, I left out the positive adjective on purpose.

If women are so unessicary then how is it that so many have made it to the top of mount everest?

Hello Mentlemen,

I have met Dick at the Men’s conference here in Germany and he has shown me this site. As a three time everest climber, this argument in particular has caught my attention. To avoid further argument I will keep this short. Do you know what the root for the sherpa word for ‘woman’ breaks down to?

‘Unnecessary load’.

So, as we say in german, schließen Sie Ihre dumme weibliche Öffnung.

babelfish that if you don’t understand.

And just because you don’t care, doesnt mean nobody does.

What exactly do you care about then?

Is there anything other than insulting people who have done things your not capable of?

Dick, you are truly amazing. In the second from the last sentance of the article you provoked Nicole’s response, and knowing full well what her response was going to be, rebutted her statement before she even had a chance to make it. Who cares in deed.

When making an argument you should really be sure of your facts first, as it seems you miscounted again, that was 18, a large number considering your, “How many women have climbed Everest? None probably.” comment.

Sort of ironic that when you’re making a point about men being better at putting forward a logical argument than women, I (a woman) am the one who came up with anything that wasn’t meaningless conceited opinions.

1974: Dicky Dolma becomes the youngest woman to Summit Everest at 19 years old.

1975: Junko Tabei of Japan became the first woman to reach the summit on 5/16/75 via the South-East Ridge.

1975: A Tibetan woman, Phantog, reaches the Summit only a few days after Junko on 5/27/75. Becoming he second woman to summit Everest and the first woman to summit from the North (Tibet) side.

1978: The first European woman and the third woman to summit Everest, Wanda Rutkiewicz, reaches the top. Wanda goes on to become known as the greatest woman climber ever.

1979: The first woman, Hannelore Schmatz, dies on Everest descending from the Summit after becoming only the 4th woman to Summit Everest.

1984: First Indian women to climb Mount Everest was Bachendri Pal on 5/23/84

1986: May 20, 1986: Canadian Sharon Wood became the first North American woman to Summit Everest and climbed the new route of the west Shoulder from the Rongbuk Glacier and continued on to the Summit via the Hornbein Couloir.

1988: September 29,1988 The First American Woman, Stacey Allison reaches the Summit of Everest via the South East ridge.

1988: First woman without oxygen Lydia Bradey (New Zealand) 10/14/88.

1990: First Married Couple to summit together: Andrej & Marija Stremfelj (Slovenia), 10/7/90. Marija was also the first Slovenian women to summit Everest.

1993: The first Nepalese woman, Pasang Lhamu Sherpa, summits Everest but dies descending from the Summit on 4/23/93.

1996: Lene Gammelgaard became the first Danish and Scandinavian woman to summit Everest via the South-East Ridge Route route on May 10, 1996.

1999: Katja Staartjes on 5/13/99 became the first and only Dutch woman to Summit Everest.

1999: First Swedish female was Renata Chlumska on May 5, 1999.

2001: Roche Bertrand and his wife Claire Bernier Roche flew together on a tandem paraglider from the North side Summit of Everest. The paraglider arrived at ABC 8 minutes later…This first husband and wife to fly from the Summit together !

2001: Viviana Cuq, Cristina Prieto and Patricia Soto, from Chile, became the first south American women to reach the summit of Everest, on May 22, 2001, via the South-East Ridge

2001: EVELYNE BINSACK: The first Swiss woman to summit Everest.

2003: Jess Roskelley Become the youngest American to Summit Everest